>*ruins your life*

>*ruins your life*

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most adults have hernias and don't even know it. Not joking. Something like 55% of people past the age of 25 have a hernia and are completely asymptomatic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So can you fix them without surgery, or do you even need to fix them for that matter if there is no acute pain?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can absolutely fix them without surgery. find a good physiotherapist. i'm this guy

        with no pain, i went from such neural tension that i couldn't bend and have my hands go down more than halfway down my shin. since the injury has healed i started strength training pretty hard as well as boxing with no injury or side efects beyond lingering muscular weakness in my left leg/glute, however this progresses like year by year-it is getting better. only thing is i get parathesia like the muscles in my calf especially the soleus will twitch and shit themselves if i'm lying down.
        [...]
        mostly time, nerve flossing and increasing mobility in my hips and lower body.

        surgical intervention like is neccesary sometimes but carries a lot of complications and can actually fuck you up real bad. the spine is delicate.

        >with no pain
        man that's amazing, congrats on the nice recovery.
        >mostly time
        how much time?

        that's correct, with no pain. look it's not me but i had a great physiotherapist. i was frankly really scared because i couldn't work (was a tradesman) and couldn't support myself, couldn't fucking walk to the shops or anything you know, so my self esteem also took a big hit as i'd gone from a really self-reliant active fit guy to what felt like a cripple.

        with 3 months i was back at work laying bricks, but still with weakness. after about 4 months back to boxing and running but with what in hindsight was pronounced weakness. it's gotten better year by year, injury occuring around mid 2019

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fixes it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >*returns randomly after 6 months of no symptoms and hurts even more this time*

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I feel better now!
        >Lets go back to doing the same dumb shit as before, finally!
        >OWWWWWWW

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Fixes it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/cwsif1y.jpg

          >Fixes it

          Deadlifts and straight leg deadlifts too.
          Strengthening back muscles is the best back pain remedy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Strengthening back muscles is the best back pain remedy
            Try telling this to an NPC.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/UNKmEAf.jpg

      >Fixes it

      for me, these exercises helped a lot with the pain, but ultimately didn't do shit to actually fix the hernia. I just get injections to manage the pain on a more long-term basis

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Uh, you're supposed to have the hernia fixed first. Those exercises will only strengthen your back, so it hopefully don't happen again.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you don't "fix" a hernia and any doctor/PT is going to recommend you do these exact exercises first to see if the hernia subsides before even considering the remote possibility of a surgical intervention

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this

          you don't "fix" a hernia and any doctor/PT is going to recommend you do these exact exercises first to see if the hernia subsides before even considering the remote possibility of a surgical intervention

          As a general rule of thumb, if the hernia is bellow 10mm mark, there is a solid chance, it will subside to a point, where it will no longer be noticable for the patient, as

          Most adults have hernias and don't even know it. Not joking. Something like 55% of people past the age of 25 have a hernia and are completely asymptomatic

          points out, a LOT of people have it.

          If it is larger than that, they might opt out to peel it via surgery. Worst case scenario, they have to replace the entire disk with a titanium one. Have fun with a year long recovery cycle then.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            massive herniation at l5s1 with associated muscular weakness in left leg, was unable to perform single leg calf raise, walk properly, run, do anything really for 3 months at least, closer to 4. also bulging disc at l4. however, injury subsided with time and physiotherapy alone. back to boxing and started lifting weights also.

            there is no reason why your back shouldn't heal. it's not a static thing, like everything else in your body.

            also the people saying

            Most adults have hernias and don't even know it. Not joking. Something like 55% of people past the age of 25 have a hernia and are completely asymptomatic

            most people have them are true lol. if anyone has any questions about it i'll be happy to answer.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >back to boxing and started lifting weights also.
              without pain or lifting through pain?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                with no pain, i went from such neural tension that i couldn't bend and have my hands go down more than halfway down my shin. since the injury has healed i started strength training pretty hard as well as boxing with no injury or side efects beyond lingering muscular weakness in my left leg/glute, however this progresses like year by year-it is getting better. only thing is i get parathesia like the muscles in my calf especially the soleus will twitch and shit themselves if i'm lying down.

                How'd you fix yours? I have no hernia, just compression, but I have an aching pain the whole time. Already do deadhangs after every workout

                mostly time, nerve flossing and increasing mobility in my hips and lower body.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >with no pain
                man that's amazing, congrats on the nice recovery.
                >mostly time
                how much time?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Twitching calf muscles when resting.

                Free calf gains unlocked

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kek i never thought of that. i don't suppose it works like that tho. i actually still ahve problems which i'm working on with like external rotation and overall 'strength' in the left leg and hip, leading me to do a lot of stability work.

                the takeaway for you guys should be YOU CAN FIX THIS, AND LIKELY WITHOUT SURGERY. get a good PT, identify the problems etc and stick at it with a timeframe of months-years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >get a good PT,
                PTs are a garden gnome scam, you can find all kinds of exercise routines on YouTube that you just have to follow well. it's the same thing except you don't pay $50 per hour

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the issue is really one of diagnosis. from experience it pays very well to be aware of what you're dealing with from a trained medical professional. the issue is diagnosis imo, especially with spine and soft tissue. from experience the opinion of untrained people, myself included, is essentially worthless. if ti's a 'garden gnome scam' tho i'm not gonna argue with you oh wise one

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nerve flossing and increasing mobility in my hips and lower body
                Elaborate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                look up sciatic nerve flossing, and hip monility drills for external rotation on youtube. was basically that

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How'd you fix yours? I have no hernia, just compression, but I have an aching pain the whole time. Already do deadhangs after every workout

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Is it true that there are times when pain appears and then goes away? as a cycle, and how much time exists between the two?

              And if u feel it again (a little) its better to stop activities or just keep doing it but at low impact?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >there is no reason why your back shouldn't heal. it's not a static thing, like everything else in your body.
              Except for the heart muscle, right myocarditis vaxxies???

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/UNKmEAf.jpg

      >Fixes it

      https://i.imgur.com/dAIg5kz.png

      [...]
      for me, these exercises helped a lot with the pain, but ultimately didn't do shit to actually fix the hernia. I just get injections to manage the pain on a more long-term basis

      https://i.imgur.com/0EtxYrH.jpg

      >why do I keep getting hernias?

      I know you are all pussies, but it's about strengthening your back. You either deadlift or your back will fade away.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lmfao. you're an idiot. LIGHT deads and single leg rdls are good, emphasis om LIGHT, but you look at rates of spinal injury from deadlifts and at the 2x bodyweight mark they fucking balloon haha

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are just a gay. Any good physiotherapist or physician (the kind that actually reads scientific articles instead of throwing up bullshit) will recommend squat and deadlifts + progressive overload. Kinesiophobia only leads to prolonged and increased pain. Good luck permanently maintaining a weak back, that certainly will do wonders for you, just like it does for the thousands of weak people fucking their shit up with everyday tasks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            certain the physiotherapist i used during my injury reccomended BODYWEIGHT single leg rdls, and eventually very light weighted RDL's (like 5-7-10-12kg). at no point did he reccomend doing 'deadlifts or squats' and progressive overload in the manner i assume you imply, being a traditional strength training routine. but whatever man go off.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >gets a bad physiotherapist
              >will never have a good athletic perfomance again in his life
              many such cases. meanwhile there are athletes out there who recovered from far worse shit doing wonders.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                idk if that's true man lol. i went back to competing in amateur boxing, working (until i left because of the injury i sustained and a desire to not repeat it) a very hard manual labour job, running etc and then during the covid lockdowns starting to lift weights and squatting 140kg and benching 115kg at 78kg bodyweight. so while these aren't outstanding numbers,i was able to do -new- strength based tasks i wasn't doing previously.

                like i get what you're saying and it's kind of true but the
                >you have to do a progressive overload strength training routine to fix your back
                is some reddit texas method iconoclastic shit where you really just wanna flex that you're heaps into squatting and deadlifting.

                for the record the physiotherapist i attended actually had a degree like, from a university, and you probably watch youtube videos

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you genuinely sound upset lol. Little penis?
            >inb4 picrel

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you can only do pussy bitch weights or giga roiding competition weights, nothing inbetween
          you never lifted in your life so thank god nobody is taking you seriously here

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            see

            idk if that's true man lol. i went back to competing in amateur boxing, working (until i left because of the injury i sustained and a desire to not repeat it) a very hard manual labour job, running etc and then during the covid lockdowns starting to lift weights and squatting 140kg and benching 115kg at 78kg bodyweight. so while these aren't outstanding numbers,i was able to do -new- strength based tasks i wasn't doing previously.

            like i get what you're saying and it's kind of true but the
            >you have to do a progressive overload strength training routine to fix your back
            is some reddit texas method iconoclastic shit where you really just wanna flex that you're heaps into squatting and deadlifting.

            for the record the physiotherapist i attended actually had a degree like, from a university, and you probably watch youtube videos

            it's cartoony to suggest what that anon is implying and seems inconsistent with my understanding of treatment for herniated discs lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you have data to back that claim?
          2x bodyweight is a 2-3plates for dyels so no wonder thats the sticking point. im lifting well over 200kg and i dont even have back pain even if i sit on my ass all day

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          is there seriously a reason to DL beyond the 4-5pl8 range?
          I don't see the point of ever even trying to go past 2/3/4/5

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Heavy dead lifts cause this shit bro. Stop being such a reddithog.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      been doing back extensions, wouldn't recommend, they suck and only injure you in the long run

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How? You're not trying to 1RM back extensions, are you?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bros how do I do this without crushing my balls against the leg support

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        on most of those machines you can adjust the leg support part so just lower it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anon, these things literally have a hole or gap in the middle. Check the machine in your gym.
        Even if the one in your gym doesn't, just lower the bar a bit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ya I just put my balls in between the gap

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        adjust the machine, not like your massive 5" pp and balls are in that much danger lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based as fuck, back extensions should be called spine restorers, they're that good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cure deadlifter's back
      literally fucking magic

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why do I keep getting hernias?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    start doing deadhangs, i do them 3 times a week after training and its so good so far.
    3sets x 10 deep breaths

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    spine hernias arent the end of the world. most heal on their own. strengthen your spinal erectors, train your overall back.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How can i tell if i got one of these or something less severe? Had an issue about a year ago deadlifting where i heard something pop and i could not walk for a couple days, but was fine a week or 2 later.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It probably was a back tweak. Hearniating a disc deadlifting is not common (even though fags hear try to say it is so).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MRI is the way they use to diagnose hernias with certainty.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think this happened in my lower back years ago, it hurt when I bent over. Seems to have improved but at a really slow rate.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was spamming squats and lunges with 20kg dumbells a year ago at home, saw gains, was happy, life was pretty good, felt strong and confident. Got sick with flu, sneezed in an akward bosition, my back and left leg locked up immediately face went pale, cold sweats. Got home somehow, laid in bed on painkillers for a week, wasnt getting better, smoking in bed, only up to piss. Got deep tissue sports massage, was able to get up again, mobility severely affected, cant bend over, get on my knees to pick stuff up off the floor. Life is get through work, get home, lay down repeat, for a year. Not excercising, because pain and afraid. Get flu again, coughing heavy, every cough feels like its gonna snap my back/left leg. Summer come, feel kinda good, almost able to life leg above my head again, confidence coming back, enjoying life. Winter comes, catch flu, back snaps, immobolized, get massage, able to walk but not much else, hurts to even sit. Am I dying, is this aids? Chiropractor said to put my leg over my knee and pull with hands, put ice after, take pills, kek. My life is very, very fucking sad boys. I want to die. What to do? An hero? Mom will be sad. Im 29 years old.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      go to a physiotherapist or gp dude this is totally fixable. please trust me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you didn't go to a doctor a single time throughout all this? didn't get an MRI done to see what the problem actually is?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, and no. I live in england, how much it costs to sort this out?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ....it's free

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but the public healthcare takes long with appointments, prolly gonna ask me if i had the covid jab blah blah blah. Id rather pay someone to bypass these.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              then go pay someone man whatever you're doing clearly isn't working but it is definitely a fixable issue

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You reckon ill need surgery or stretches n shit will suffice? Yeah ill definately need to see someone who knows their shit. Just thought time will heal but nah. If theyll say to put leg over knee and pull, ice afterwords, im throwing hands.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                seek medical advice from a gp or physiotherapist

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus Christ you're a fucking man child.
                Do you need your hand held at every step in your life?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Take it easy guy, i just dont like doctors or hospitals or any of that shite. I thought maybe some anon has tips on what to do, is all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeh but why would you listen to the advice of some random virgin on a Mongolian vibrating chess beads trading forum?
                It's your back mate, go see the experts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >spamming
      have a nice day

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Im sorry to hear it

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    42 here
    1 bulged disc
    Torn rotator cuff on left
    Torn ac joint on right
    Fucked my knees, one chipped shin and the bone fragments is up in the joint the other is a torn meniscus.

    Kids take care of your body because living with pain sucks and Advil doesn't do shit.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Whats a good office chair that doesnt cost 1k$+?
    I sit all day

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      get a standing desk. good chairs are very expensive

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >feel back pain and stiffness
    >do heavy deadlifts
    >pain automatically goes away

    i will never understand the human body

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone had an upper back hernia? Does this actually exist?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      one time i went to a traumatologyst and he told me having a middle-upper back hernia is rare to impossible due to the thoraric cage holding that entire spine area

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It can happen but lifting almost exclusively causes lower back hernias because that's where you bend for most back-related lifts. If you did some retarded Bugenhagen neck training egolift you might manage to herniate a cervical disc.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's these pieces of shit. I think I my LCL and maybe some meniscus last night in Muay Thai. Tore my ACL in my OTHER knee two years ago. Who /badknees/ here

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *Think I tore my LCL

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *Think I tore my LCL

      >LCL

      ligaments and spinal injuries are proof that humans are still in alpha

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Back pain remedy:

    You can thank me later

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Best video on the internet, my brother has a schmorl's node in one of his vertebrae and this is what helped him the most

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >schmorl's node
        formerly chuck's

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >There are people on this board, right now, who still believe that a disc herniation leads to chronic pain despite 0 studies showing a correlation between herniation and pain

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh studies
      i deadlifted, got hernia, now have chronic back pain
      what studies do i need?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        deadlift could be the simplest lift there is
        literally just brace and lift
        why would u let the weight rest on your spine instead of your muscles?
        well not my problem have fun being weak. gay

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          post body, dyel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the magistrates have said it is not so! How can you believe otherwise? such foolishness!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The point is that the #science insists herniation causes pain DESPITE zero evidence for it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The point is that the #science insists herniation causes pain DESPITE zero evidence for it

      are you retarded by any chance. I don't need a peer-reviewed scientific publication to tell me whether my back is hurting or not.

      when you get a hernia and your back starts hurting like fuck, are you going to turn to your spine and shout "BUT WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE" autistically or what. I genuinely don't understand the thought process here.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I posted in some thread yesterday that most chronic pain is psychosomatic. The vast majority of people will not believe this and many sufferers will go years and years trying all sorts of surgeries, supplements, physical therapy, acupuncture, pain shots, yoga, etc. to no avail. The idea is that the pain is created by the mind, a phenomenon similar to a stress headache, in order to repress painful subconscious emotions. The vehement refusal to entertain this notion by most sufferers, even after they've tried everything and suffered for years, is exemplary of the psychological necessity for the symptoms: I have these feelings that must not be acknowledged.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >just don't feel pain, bro
          I see. I will add this along with "just don't be depressed" to my to-do list

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God fuck it scares me just to even think about the pain. I became like 90% almost back to normal after like three months of consistent stretching and daily walks but I still feel it lingering... I'm taking alpha lipoic acid and now I'm at like 97% but is there still hope for me to be 100% back to normal bros? I never want this to happen to me again..

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    injected BPC peptides near the spot
    did 2 different variations of the squat
    my shit healed took 6 months but it's back to normal, another thing that helps is working out and strengthening your core

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao at the buttfreaks who got brainwashed by the AMA into thinking chiropractors are quacks

    https://chiro.org/Wilk/Wilk_v_AMA_25_Years_Later.shtml

    Blow it out your asses, losers.
    >t.perfect posture, perfect disc spacing

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    stabbing INSANE burning heat pain around here so bad i have to rub it agianst a wall at work but it's just there 24/7, but at least i can lift 100kg i guess. i wanna kms, probably has to do with why my clavicle clicks and is in constant pain too. wish i never lifted.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My mom has a C6/C7 herniated disc. A week ago I convinced her to deadlift something around 100lbs for 5-8 reps (she considered anything over 50 too heavy) and she seemed to be okay, should she keep going? Also barbell bench press hurts her because of the shoulder extension but dumbbells are just fine, is it possible to recover from something like that?

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