"Saturated fat is good for y-ACK!!!"

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The covid vaccine doesn't have saturated fat though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The vaccine is bad for you! It's not my shitty diet, lifestyle, and genetics!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        100% correct. Now let's get our boosters and show these đumbies!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Carnivores are mentally ill, we know. The whole idea that PUFAs are bad doesn't even come from them, it's people like Ray Peat who are responsible for that.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Multiple clinical trials showed omega 6 PUFAs increasing cancer and or all cause mortality. Not a good look. I put evoo on my salad not canola oil

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            we have to take that into context.

            PUFAs are used to cook / prepare shitty processed fried foods. Think fried chicken or french fries and stuff like that.

            I would seriously doubt that PUFAs cause cancer in the context of a healthy diet, much like how saturated fat is likely not going to cause CVD in the context of a healthy diet.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Certainly possible. The trials I was referring to were the Rose Corn Oil, LA Veterans, Sydney Diet Heart Study, and Minnesota Coronary Experiment if you'd like to read up on them yourself. The NIH was sufficiently worried about this potential carcinogenic effect of vegetable oils they had half a dozen meeting about it in the 60s or 70s

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Saturated fat doesnt cause heart disease the evidence is clear its just retards still perpetuating this myth

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah sure fatty

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So what causes heart diseases? Stress?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Stress is one of the causes, namely prolonged stress, but there's a lot of causes for heart diseases. Chronic hypertension causing prolonged stress to the heart that builds up overtime to cause heart attack. Coronary heart diseases that become incapable of supplying appropriate blood to the heart walls for contraction, causing scars in the chambers that will eventually result in heart failure. Cholesterol heavy diet, saturated fats diet, and the general obesity diet. There's a lot of causes for heart diseases.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is there a way to avoid heart diseases?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anything that can damage the endothelium, create blood clots, or interfere with the repair. Diabetes, HPA axis dysfunction, steroids, smoking, air pollution, raised blood pressure, cocaine, homocysteine, avastin, sickle cell disease, SLE, Hughes syndrome, CKD. Mostly stolen from The Clot Thickens

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its all about luck.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          SFA, meat...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      dairy fat*

      The evidence is actually quite clear that saturated fat from meats is linked to dyslipidemia, which is then linked to CVD risk.

      Dairy fat is not, specifically whole milk products. I don't recall much evidence for butter, though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Muh questionnaire studies that don't differentiate between real meat and processed garbage is indirectly maybe linked to another thing which may or may not mean anything
        Check mate bro we did it reddit!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          processed meat is no different from real meat in terms of fatty acid profile, it usually has more fat in it, though.

          Nitrates and Nitrites are not going to cause heart disease. In fact, nitrates will actually improve heart health. It is actually quite telling that despite the presence of nitrates, people still get heart issues eating processed food that is also high in saturated fats.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is fantasy. The RCTs are clear there is no effect on CVD or all cause mortality from saturated fat. Over a billion dollars spent on clinical trials that have been and are just ignored. Weak associations from epidemiology do not imply causality.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The literature supports the evidence that high amounts of saturated fats cause dyslipidemia, which can increase the incidence of CVD

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5293238/

          https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/ATVBAHA.120.315766

          It is also worth noting that most of the problems arise when there is a caloric excess. In a caloric deficit, these problems are muted substantially.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Small, short term studies only looking at a few bio markers not any hard outcomes. There have been many large, long term RCTs testing this and consistently failed to improve mortality outcomes despite whatever may happen to LDL.
            >Diets that replace saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat do not convincingly reduce cardiovascular events or mortality…[We] must consider that the diet-heart hypothesis is invalid or requires modification.
            https://ebm.bmj.com/content/26/1/3

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              ya, I would agree that saturated fats are probably not a boogeyman, and a normal intake of them as part of a healthy diet is likely not going to cause many major issues.

              But we must also consider the average person and the fact that the average person is now overweight or obese, and in this context saturated fats are likely not helping their situation. The issue here is what the saturated fats are likely replaced with, and that is usually sugar, which is much worse for the body.

              I would not say that saturated fats are healthy for you, though. They are either neutral or bad for you. Monounsaturated fat is the king of the fats.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are dozens of papers looking at all the RCT evidence and almost all come to the same conclusion.
            >In our analysis, the Mediterranean diet, modified dietary fat, reduced dietary fat, reduced saturated fat intake, omega-6 PUFA, or omega-3 ALA PUFA did not reduce the risk for mortality or cardiovascular outcomes.
            https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M19-0341

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              you're actually a fucking garden gnome being this disingenuous

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Moderately certain you are wrong. Good enough for me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Interestingly this review was co authored by some former members of the US DGAC (hence all the conflicts of interest) and they are owning up to their mistakes but the anti saturated fat dogma persists
            >There is no robust evidence that current population-wide arbitrary upper limits on saturated fat consumption in the United States will prevent CVD or reduce mortality.
            https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109720356874

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So what you're saying is the actual problem is being a disgusting gluttonous fatfuck

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine having sex with a woman.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >at work at 3:40 in the morning
    >SITTING pulse is at roughly 76
    >still feel sleepy
    should I be concerned?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >give in and hit up some caffeine
      >moderately less sleepy
      >pulse goes DOWN
      what the fuck?

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