Yes it is. The lowest recorded fatal dose is 600 mg a day for five days (and that case was in combination with clenbuterol and steroids, so chances are it wasn't even the DNP alone that killed that person). 200 mg is already a very effective dose. There is no single recorded case of anyone suffering any serious short-term or long-term damage from such a dose whatsoever.
This is exactly correct. The horror stories you hear are from those exact idiots. DNP is not a drug without dangers, if you use it irresponsibly, you can and will have a nice day. That's why it's illegal - to protect those idiots. In any case, the fatality of this stuff is EXTREMELY overblown by the media. There have been like 60 deaths ever recorded among tens of thousands of consumers of that drug. I'm absolutely not recommending to take it if you don't have a good reason, but this fearmongering is completely retarded.
no.
There isn't a single scientifically documented case of a man getting cataracts from it even though thousands of men have taken it and the phenomenon of "dinitro-cataracts" has been studied extensively, especially in the 1930s and 1940s.
Show me one (1!) single case of a man getting it (and actually getting it from DNP intake) and I'll believe you. I've searched all studies I could find, and while there were dozens of well-documented female cases, there wasn't a single one for men.
One study even suggested it might be linked to domestic violence; so damage to the eye through blunt force + DNP in the bloodstream at the same time might cause cataracts, which would mean that you're safe unless you happen to get beaten up while you're on that stuff.
https://i.imgur.com/yr2V3Nw.jpg
In all seriousness where the fuck can I get it in Europe? I live in Spain.
I’m tired of all the gays telling they’re using it but nobody gives a clue about where to get it.
Many chinks sell it as raw powder on Alibaba, you just have to search. 1 kg is like 100 to 150 bucks including shipping. They usually ship it under a wrong label (as a different chemical) to avoid suHispanicion by the authorities. You should definitely do a recristallization to purify it (it's a very easy chemical reaction) if you buy it from them, though, because trusting chinks to sell you the pure stuff is gambling with your life. You can then just use empty gelatine capsules and a scale to turn it into pills. 1 kg is pretty much enough for you entire life.
DON'T START WITH MORE THAN 100 mg a day if you value your life! Some people are allergic to that stuff and respond to it far more heavily than others, so start slowly if you take it. And always keep in mind that it has a really long half time, so you should always wait for at least a week before increasing your dosage!
>ingesting random chemicals purposely mislabeled off Alibaba
I think it's easier to just have self control and eat less lol
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What exactly do you not understand about
>You should definitely do a recrystallization to purify it (it's a very easy chemical reaction) if you buy it from them, though, because trusting chinks to sell you the pure stuff is gambling with your life.
?
You can pretty much ensure 100 % purity that way and check via various tests (density, melting point, burn test etc.).
a) If you are so fat that your life is in danger from obesity and you're too much of a spineless subhuman to muster the willpower to lose weight normally. Might as well take it if the alternative is dying from diabetes or a heart attack.
b) you need to cut quickly without losing muscle mass as a (semi-)professional bodybuilder or athlete. This is the main strength of DNP versus just eating less; it makes you lose fat without losing muscle, because it only affects the ATP synthesis from sugars and fats, not from protein.
a) If you are so fat that your life is in danger from obesity and you're too much of a spineless subhuman to muster the willpower to lose weight normally. Might as well take it if the alternative is dying from diabetes or a heart attack.
b) you need to cut quickly without losing muscle mass as a (semi-)professional bodybuilder or athlete. This is the main strength of DNP versus just eating less; it makes you lose fat without losing muscle, because it only affects the ATP synthesis from sugars and fats, not from protein.
to be fair this exact reason is the same for any pharmaceutical pursuit in sports. lmao
>to much of a gay to do it naturally
or >have to do something the average human isnt willing to
with that being said, as someone whos dropped 250 naturally, can I just use Semaglutide + DNP to drop the 50..... Or should I just do old reliable..
In all seriousness where the fuck can I get it in Europe? I live in Spain.
I’m tired of all the gays telling they’re using it but nobody gives a clue about where to get it.
>dinitro gone >maserati gone >reagan labs gone
I fucking hate the fact that this compound was demonized by the media and the fucking deanos who died taking 800mg/day
it's fucking impossible to find a source nowadays, let alone a source that knows how to cap safely and properly >import it by bulk from China
fuck that i'm not chemist
4mg/kg of DNP for 2 weeks is still the best cut possible
What i'm saying is i'm not buying a damn kilo of the stuff, lab supplies, excipients and other shit just to make 50 capsules, fuck that
Plus i'd probably poison myself, get arrested, or both
you bros keep shilling this shit and I'm really about to buy it
are there any long sides? I was the dude whos friend kinda knew the science behind stuff and was like, "yeah bro this like, either is a miracle drug, or will cause some genetic defect in like 4 grand kids down the line"
I've hit a critical mass where cutting is so easy I binge eat on the weekends, if it feels like actual complete hell I won't do it.
-cataracts -> and those (almost or totally) exclusively appear in women; even there they are easily treatable with a routine surgery, so it's impossible to go permanently blind
-peripheral neuropathy -> seems to be extraordinarily rare (only two documented cases in all of medical history) and only happen at very high doses.
Of course, this doesn't mean that there isn't some hidden long-term effect that hasn't been studied yet.
PN seems like a shot in the dark, but does go away if ceased immediately.
Like I said the homie I spoke to was like yeah man, it doesn't seem "bad" but your 4th child could spawn in with 4 legs cause of the wonk shit when ATP gets shut down..... Not that drastic, but yk
man, I miss those dnp threads back in the day. who was that one guy, dinitro I think. he was the best seller and something happened to him. but I can't believe this shit worked. I was 260Ibs. I used dnp and followed the pastebin very carefully. I have never gained more passed 210Ibs. my lowest was 165Ibs which was last year. I got to that naturally. but DNP lowered my baseline permanently I feel so its hard as fuck to even go passed 205Ibs at this point. I'm trying to get back to 165Ibs but I've been stuck at 200Ibs the passed year because I've been an undisciplined piece of shit. if I knew a good source I'd be tempted but in the end the best way to lose weight is fasting and I learned that too late
The only reason it's good for me, is becasue in theory you don't eat so you stop producing hunger queues, and then your stomach also shrinks because you can't eat.
So why not just drink protein shakes while "fasting" to spare muscle?
if you have body fat , you can lose it by not eating, because when you stop eating, your body has to use your fat stores as energy. if you even take a bite out of one thing that had calories, your insulin rises and for a couple hours your body can't burn fat. that's why CICO sucks. you can have a protein shake, then fast for 2 days, then have another protein shake and repeat. or you can have one meal a day and have that. depends on how fast you want to lose the weight. but I'm fucking done playing games. I got down to 165Ibs doing just that and I looked ripped. Pic related is me at 165 a year ago. I became a lazy piece of shit and gained the weight back and I'm at 200Ibs now again.
it's so fucking easy. you need a scale. step on the scale everyday. step on the scale before and after you eat your food. go for a walk and that shit will drop down a bit. you just keep this monitoring up with fasting and you can lose it. it's the best way after all my research. and it's actually really healthy for you because your hormones will balance out and GH cranks up, you won't lose muscle unless you go on for days without eating but even then it's negligible. fasting is the secret nobody wants you to know and nobody wants to believe.
straight fasting is as muscle sparing as you can get while losing tons of fat
I did a 9 day fast once and I was 5% weaker on lifts after refeeding and it didn't even take two weeks to get that back
I see. Some dude in a thread yesterday said something like 4-10 days is optimal fasting sweet spots, 4 is like "max" GH and 10 you do start going catabolic
Then he said do 10 on, 10 off, repeat. And that short fasts weren't as good.
I am still tempted to do CICO Mon-Fri, then Fast Sat-Sun. but still unsure.
DNP combined with Alli that fat blocking pill and keto is literally gd mode for cuts. Youll get the shits but the fat literally melts off of you like magic. Thinking of adding ozempic to my next cut to see if that helps of if it wont even matter at that rate of cutting
Because the debate isn't whether that stuff is effective, even the people who think you should never take it acknowledge that is highly effective. There is a fuckton of serious scientific research on that topic, so there is little reason to show examples. The debate is whether it's possible to take it in a manner that doesn't ruin your health or kill you. This is what this is all about.
Literally didnt feel shit.... But I've been Binge eating like a MOTHER FUCKER.... Also I'm coming off a damn near 2 YEAR cut. But after my binges I am full as shit for like 3 days
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it was pretty potent on day 1-2, but easily tapered on 3, (it's effective dose is 2.5 days, and half life is 7, so)
I'd say buy cheapest amount, also look into the Other GLP-1's (lira, dula, or Tirazpetide)
didnt zyzz die of this
zyzz died because he was a retard who roided even though he had a heart defect
No. Zyzz died because he didn't build enough resistance to recreational drugs.
>no dose is safe
bullshit
No dose is safe if you're an idiot (most people are idiots)
>No dose is safe
Yes it is. The lowest recorded fatal dose is 600 mg a day for five days (and that case was in combination with clenbuterol and steroids, so chances are it wasn't even the DNP alone that killed that person). 200 mg is already a very effective dose. There is no single recorded case of anyone suffering any serious short-term or long-term damage from such a dose whatsoever.
This is exactly correct. The horror stories you hear are from those exact idiots. DNP is not a drug without dangers, if you use it irresponsibly, you can and will have a nice day. That's why it's illegal - to protect those idiots. In any case, the fatality of this stuff is EXTREMELY overblown by the media. There have been like 60 deaths ever recorded among tens of thousands of consumers of that drug. I'm absolutely not recommending to take it if you don't have a good reason, but this fearmongering is completely retarded.
There isn't a single scientifically documented case of a man getting cataracts from it even though thousands of men have taken it and the phenomenon of "dinitro-cataracts" has been studied extensively, especially in the 1930s and 1940s.
predominantly female doesnt mean theres no men getting it and its not like theres a lot of research on it in the first place
Show me one (1!) single case of a man getting it (and actually getting it from DNP intake) and I'll believe you. I've searched all studies I could find, and while there were dozens of well-documented female cases, there wasn't a single one for men.
One study even suggested it might be linked to domestic violence; so damage to the eye through blunt force + DNP in the bloodstream at the same time might cause cataracts, which would mean that you're safe unless you happen to get beaten up while you're on that stuff.
Many chinks sell it as raw powder on Alibaba, you just have to search. 1 kg is like 100 to 150 bucks including shipping. They usually ship it under a wrong label (as a different chemical) to avoid suHispanicion by the authorities. You should definitely do a recristallization to purify it (it's a very easy chemical reaction) if you buy it from them, though, because trusting chinks to sell you the pure stuff is gambling with your life. You can then just use empty gelatine capsules and a scale to turn it into pills. 1 kg is pretty much enough for you entire life.
DON'T START WITH MORE THAN 100 mg a day if you value your life! Some people are allergic to that stuff and respond to it far more heavily than others, so start slowly if you take it. And always keep in mind that it has a really long half time, so you should always wait for at least a week before increasing your dosage!
>ingesting random chemicals purposely mislabeled off Alibaba
I think it's easier to just have self control and eat less lol
What exactly do you not understand about
>You should definitely do a recrystallization to purify it (it's a very easy chemical reaction) if you buy it from them, though, because trusting chinks to sell you the pure stuff is gambling with your life.
?
You can pretty much ensure 100 % purity that way and check via various tests (density, melting point, burn test etc.).
what do you consider a good reason?
I can imagine two scenarios:
a) If you are so fat that your life is in danger from obesity and you're too much of a spineless subhuman to muster the willpower to lose weight normally. Might as well take it if the alternative is dying from diabetes or a heart attack.
b) you need to cut quickly without losing muscle mass as a (semi-)professional bodybuilder or athlete. This is the main strength of DNP versus just eating less; it makes you lose fat without losing muscle, because it only affects the ATP synthesis from sugars and fats, not from protein.
to be fair this exact reason is the same for any pharmaceutical pursuit in sports. lmao
>to much of a gay to do it naturally
or
>have to do something the average human isnt willing to
with that being said, as someone whos dropped 250 naturally, can I just use Semaglutide + DNP to drop the 50..... Or should I just do old reliable..
I'd say you should just do it normally, even though I'm not against DNP.
damn.. alright stranger on the internet. You've swayed me
I won't make it this year. But next (21st birthday) I will. I'll maybe bottom some bitch out for celebration....
gambling with cataracts to lean out quicker
how to tell people youre a loser without saying it
Only women get that
no.
>gambling with cataracts
what?
also is not about leaning out faster, is about leaning out without losing muscle
bros will really take death pills to avoid fasting
https://www.team-andro.com/dnp-dinitrophenol-bodybuilding.html
In all seriousness where the fuck can I get it in Europe? I live in Spain.
I’m tired of all the gays telling they’re using it but nobody gives a clue about where to get it.
Fuck off fed
>Spanish fed cares about drugs
Move to a free country, commie.
There are tons of chemicals you can poison yourself with, DNP is 100% banned because it is used in explosives. It is the only reason.
>dinitro gone
>maserati gone
>reagan labs gone
I fucking hate the fact that this compound was demonized by the media and the fucking deanos who died taking 800mg/day
it's fucking impossible to find a source nowadays, let alone a source that knows how to cap safely and properly
>import it by bulk from China
fuck that i'm not chemist
4mg/kg of DNP for 2 weeks is still the best cut possible
Why would you have to be a chemist to import it from China? only thing you have to do is put it in capsules, lol
What i'm saying is i'm not buying a damn kilo of the stuff, lab supplies, excipients and other shit just to make 50 capsules, fuck that
Plus i'd probably poison myself, get arrested, or both
you bros keep shilling this shit and I'm really about to buy it
are there any long sides? I was the dude whos friend kinda knew the science behind stuff and was like, "yeah bro this like, either is a miracle drug, or will cause some genetic defect in like 4 grand kids down the line"
I've hit a critical mass where cutting is so easy I binge eat on the weekends, if it feels like actual complete hell I won't do it.
Only known long sides are
-cataracts -> and those (almost or totally) exclusively appear in women; even there they are easily treatable with a routine surgery, so it's impossible to go permanently blind
-peripheral neuropathy -> seems to be extraordinarily rare (only two documented cases in all of medical history) and only happen at very high doses.
Of course, this doesn't mean that there isn't some hidden long-term effect that hasn't been studied yet.
I do have a history of Cataracts, so hmmmm (male)
PN seems like a shot in the dark, but does go away if ceased immediately.
Like I said the homie I spoke to was like yeah man, it doesn't seem "bad" but your 4th child could spawn in with 4 legs cause of the wonk shit when ATP gets shut down..... Not that drastic, but yk
man, I miss those dnp threads back in the day. who was that one guy, dinitro I think. he was the best seller and something happened to him. but I can't believe this shit worked. I was 260Ibs. I used dnp and followed the pastebin very carefully. I have never gained more passed 210Ibs. my lowest was 165Ibs which was last year. I got to that naturally. but DNP lowered my baseline permanently I feel so its hard as fuck to even go passed 205Ibs at this point. I'm trying to get back to 165Ibs but I've been stuck at 200Ibs the passed year because I've been an undisciplined piece of shit. if I knew a good source I'd be tempted but in the end the best way to lose weight is fasting and I learned that too late
why fasting
I keep seeing people say it's better than CICO
How, you literally aren't consuming protein?
The only reason it's good for me, is becasue in theory you don't eat so you stop producing hunger queues, and then your stomach also shrinks because you can't eat.
So why not just drink protein shakes while "fasting" to spare muscle?
if you have body fat , you can lose it by not eating, because when you stop eating, your body has to use your fat stores as energy. if you even take a bite out of one thing that had calories, your insulin rises and for a couple hours your body can't burn fat. that's why CICO sucks. you can have a protein shake, then fast for 2 days, then have another protein shake and repeat. or you can have one meal a day and have that. depends on how fast you want to lose the weight. but I'm fucking done playing games. I got down to 165Ibs doing just that and I looked ripped. Pic related is me at 165 a year ago. I became a lazy piece of shit and gained the weight back and I'm at 200Ibs now again.
it's so fucking easy. you need a scale. step on the scale everyday. step on the scale before and after you eat your food. go for a walk and that shit will drop down a bit. you just keep this monitoring up with fasting and you can lose it. it's the best way after all my research. and it's actually really healthy for you because your hormones will balance out and GH cranks up, you won't lose muscle unless you go on for days without eating but even then it's negligible. fasting is the secret nobody wants you to know and nobody wants to believe.
maybe you'd like PSMF
I know about that, that's why I don't get why not do THAT instead of possibly cutting muscle?
But then, if fasting is somehow muscle sparing, why waste the 500-1000 calories?
straight fasting is as muscle sparing as you can get while losing tons of fat
I did a 9 day fast once and I was 5% weaker on lifts after refeeding and it didn't even take two weeks to get that back
I see. Some dude in a thread yesterday said something like 4-10 days is optimal fasting sweet spots, 4 is like "max" GH and 10 you do start going catabolic
Then he said do 10 on, 10 off, repeat. And that short fasts weren't as good.
I am still tempted to do CICO Mon-Fri, then Fast Sat-Sun. but still unsure.
Remember dhacks?
fixed it
DNP combined with Alli that fat blocking pill and keto is literally gd mode for cuts. Youll get the shits but the fat literally melts off of you like magic. Thinking of adding ozempic to my next cut to see if that helps of if it wont even matter at that rate of cutting
Why do loads of people post about using DNP and losing loads of weight but I never see any before and after pictures?
Because the debate isn't whether that stuff is effective, even the people who think you should never take it acknowledge that is highly effective. There is a fuckton of serious scientific research on that topic, so there is little reason to show examples. The debate is whether it's possible to take it in a manner that doesn't ruin your health or kill you. This is what this is all about.
>but I never see any before and after pictures
This was after three cycles if I remember correctly, 230lb -> 160lb
Anyone here tried Semaglutide? Thinking of using it for my next cut (probably along with low doses of clen and yohimbine). What was your experience?
Literally didnt feel shit.... But I've been Binge eating like a MOTHER FUCKER.... Also I'm coming off a damn near 2 YEAR cut. But after my binges I am full as shit for like 3 days
it was pretty potent on day 1-2, but easily tapered on 3, (it's effective dose is 2.5 days, and half life is 7, so)
I'd say buy cheapest amount, also look into the Other GLP-1's (lira, dula, or Tirazpetide)