Seed oils are bad, what about actual seeds? t. slav

Seed oils are bad, what about actual seeds?

t. slav

  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >good seeds
    pumpkin
    almond
    cashew
    brazil
    hazelnut

    >bad
    everything else

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      why?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >good
        high omega 3, low omega 6
        high mineral content
        Tangible aphrodesiacs and therefore T boosters, a compounding cycle that eventually turns you into chad
        sexual and brain health

        >everything else including walnuts
        high omega 6, generally useless fat profiles
        suboptimal mineral content for the volume/weight/price
        very rarely eaten raw, often deep fried in goy-oils

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Id swap sunflower seeds with pumpkin seeds but theyre a bit annoying to open the shell with your teeth, sunflower seeds are more satisfying they make some kind of click sound

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            you buy deshelled, raw pumpkin seeds.
            and you buy them because they're a potent aphrodesiac, omega 3, and mineral source, not because they taste good.

            you avoid sunflowers because theyre none of that and made for goyim livestock like yourself to use as some kind of alternative to healthy food

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Are roasted pumpkin seeds ok?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              The whole point is to open the shell yourself with your teeth. Its fun and takes a while so its good while watching some long movie to pass the time

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You have the same obsession over oral fixation smokers have.
                You also consume an unhealthy amount of roasted salted shit because you like cracking the shell with your teeth. So what's exactly is the point of your question?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                My point was to ask if they are unhealthy or not.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                ok, at what point does this make sunflower seeds not poison?

                Are roasted pumpkin seeds ok?

                if they were actually just roasted sure, but normally "roasted" means they've been fried in canola oil

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Walnuts ftw

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot poppy seeds. Gotta love the rush you get after munching down a mouthful of poppy seeds.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Never ate them, why do you feel a rush?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          They contain opium

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      walnuts dumbass

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        horrible fat profile and nutrition profile for the volume of nut you need to eat, enough omega 6 that studies have actually proven that walnuts consistently speed up aromatization of test into estrogen, which is the opposite of what you want. your body is doing exactly as much of this process as needs to happen on it's own, you are essentially supplementing estrogen by consuming the wrong fats in large amounts.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Chia seeds are bad?

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sneeds will never be good. My dad said if I ate a pumpkin sneed a pumpkin would grow in my belly. Not good.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

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  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    sneed oils are definetly bad, cause all the internet gurus say theyre bad. worse than poison.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      no, the studies from the last 20 years say so, especially the latest ones, you know, those studies you can't read

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        you mean like these meta-analyses?

        Biomarkers of Dietary Omega-6 Fatty Acids and Incident Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality
        >https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.118.038908
        "It is striking that a higher level of linoleic acid was associated with lower risks of total cardiovascular disease, ischemic stroke, and cardiovascular mortality, whereas arachidonic acid was not associated with cardiovascular risk

        Omega‐6 fats for the primary and secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease
        >https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD011094.pub3/abstract
        "Primary outcomes: we found low‐quality evidence that increased intake of omega‐6 fats may make little or no difference to all‐cause mortality or CVD events . We are uncertain whether increasing omega‐6 fats affects CVD mortality , coronary heart disease events, major adverse cardiac and cerebrovascular events, or stroke, as we assessed the evidence as being of very low quality. We found no evidence of dose‐response or duration effects for any primary outcome, but there was a suggestion of greater protection in participants with lower baseline omega‐6 intake across outcomes."

        Omega-3, omega-6 and total dietary polyunsaturated fat on cancer incidence: systematic review and meta-analysis of randomised trials
        >(google the title and youll find it. 4 chan wont let m psot the link)
        "The most extensive systematic review to assess the effects of increasing PUFAs on cancer risk found increasing total PUFA may very slightly increase cancer risk, offset by small protective effects on cardiovascular diseases."

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cohort studies are virtually useless for studying the effects of omega-6. Virtually 100% of modern people consume evolutionarily inappriopriate levels of omega-6, so there are no controls. It would be like if 100% of the population smoked, so you're comparing people who smoke 25 cigarettes a day to 20 cigarettes a day, with no control group.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol, first a guy claim that all modern research shows theyre bad. So i post modern research. Then this retard claims there is no controll group therefor all research is bad.
            acting like there couldnt be a dose response. and we wouldnt be able to see differences between low to non intake of it and compare it to moderate or very high intake.
            Cope harder

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nobody has low intake. Everyone from mcdonalds eaters to health conscious vegans consume 20x the amount of omega-6 humans consumed 100 years ago.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nobody has low intake
                you must live in a bubble. You must be american to have this view. Google sources of omega-6 and see how retarded your argument is. its obvious that any non-vegan humans consumed a decent amount of omega-6.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >non-vegan humans
                The only non-vegan foods with high omega-6 are chicken and pork, and that's because modern factory farmed chickens and pigs are exclusively fed grains with high omega-6. Also chicken was rarely eaten 100 years ago compared to today.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://practicalfarmers.org/research/fatty-acid-comparisons-of-grain-and-forage-fed-pork/
                Theres barely any different between grain fed and non grainfed pigs. and theres only a minor difference between non grainfed pigs and what you buy in stores.

                you just keep making shit up, cause you cant fathom being wrong

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2846864/

                Your fucking bullshitting you fucking prick.

                Omega 3 content changes significantly based on grass fed or grain fed. For eggs, meat, everything.

                https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/pastured-vs-omega-3-vs-conventional-eggs

                https://www.chiropracticsolutions.com.au/blog/sugar-how-sweet-it-isnt-170257081

                >Grain-fed beef can have ratios that exceed 20:1 ratio, whereas grass-fed beef has a ratio of around 3:1.

                Fuck you really.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2846864/
                i posted a link about pigs, and you post one about beef. you must be retarded.
                Also i know you didnt read the whole thing. cause theres a graph there that shows theres still a lot of PUFAs in grass fed beef. disproving your own argument that people barely ate omega-6 in the past.

                also
                >https://www.chiropracticsolutions.com.au/blog/sugar-how-sweet-it-isnt-170257081
                a blog from a chiropractor, lol. man this must b a joke.
                Also healthline as a source????

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                All beef is grass fed. Some beef is grain finished and some is grass finished I think though.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                yup, the vast majority of beef is. its just finished on grain/hay the last ~6 months, before slaughter. to fatten em up

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                That all depends on of they sell them as long or short yearlings or true yearlings. I think some people essentially sell them finished. My understanding is that some don't spend nearly 6 months though

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Look at the total lipid dumbass. The total amount of omega-6 is 3x higher in the grain fed. Also omega-6:3 2.5x higher. Omega-3 reduces the negative effects of omega-6 because they compete for the same metabolic pathways.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                We never even talked about about omega- 3 consumption and if you look at the actual graph, looking at total lipids means also saturated fats. this discussion is about omega-6 fatty acids. youre just grasping the air for anything you can do to move the goalpost or ignore the actual argument.

                your actual lack of understanding when it comes to research does not mean all research on omega-6 is wrong. just cause you cant wrap your retarded head around a topic you actually got no clue about. and result to blogs, made by chiropractors highlights your absolute retardation.

                People used to eat omega-6 from animal sources, just a bit lower than what low omega-6 consumers do today. In research it would be easy to see a dose response.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you insane? Ever motherfucker had a little barn with birds in it in 1920s.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Long-term effects of increasing omega-3, omega-6 and total polyunsaturated fats on inflammatory bowel disease and markers of inflammation: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials
        >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33084958/
        "This is the most comprehensive meta-analysis of RCTs investigating long-term effects of omega-3, omega-6 and total PUFA on IBD and inflammatory markers. Our findings suggest that supplementation with PUFAs has little or no effect on prevention or treatment of IBD and provides little support for modification of long-term inflammatory status."

        Linoleic Acid, Vegetable Oils & Inflammation
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6179509/
        >Based on the current evidence from RCT and observational studies there appears to be virtually no data available to support the hypothesis that LA in the diet increases markers of inflammation among healthy, non-infant humans.

        The Science of Fatty Acids and Inflammation
        https://academic.oup.com/advances/article/6/3/293S/4568626
        > the often-repeated claim that dietary linoleic acid promotes inflammation was not supported in a recent systematic review of the evidence.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I heard those just cut up your guts therefore causing inflammation

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seeds contain small amounts of omega-6s, but not enough to cause problems. Seeds are not great for a different reason, namely lectins which can damage the gut lining and cause dysbiosis. It's incredible how the gut microbiome is connected to every aspect of health, from your immune system to your mental health. Occasional seeds won't kill you, but it shouldn't make up a huge part of ypur diet, including grains and beans. Between grains, seed oils, beans and legumes, seeds make up the majority of the modern diet. Humans might be omnivores, but we're not seedivores.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      are oats seeds?
      what about rice?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes and yes. White rice is the best of the grains for lectin content though. I eat white rice myself pretty frequently. You shouldn't have any problems with it unless you have serious autoimmune problems.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well I do notice my tummy hurt with beans for example but yea never with rice.
          Just wondering about sunflower seeds specifically because I started eating some when watching movies since they're fun to eat and it takes a long time to consume them lol

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        All grains are basically the barriers of seeds. They contain the germ that eventually sprout from the plant upon maturing and coming in contact with water. Most of the time the germ is removed, although there are always some stragglers. Whole grain products have the grains with the germ and bran.

        Yes and yes. White rice is the best of the grains for lectin content though. I eat white rice myself pretty frequently. You shouldn't have any problems with it unless you have serious autoimmune problems.

        I've also felt a lot lighter when eating rice compared to bread, even homemade bread. I got into breadmaking a while back and I noticed I felt "off," but chalked it up to changing my diet and eating more carbs than usual.

        One thing to note is that most grains are infested with bacterial endospores, something that I had to be well aware of when I used to cultivate mushrooms. Some of these endospores are toxic as fuck, including but not limited to anthrax and botulism. Endospores require extreme heat to denature, up to 250F, which can only be accomplished with a pressure cooker/autoclave that reaches at least 15 PSi. Rice, among all the grains we eat, contain the least amount of endospores. Want to create a lethal poison? Boil some grains and store them in an airtight container for a few months.
        Rice is devoid of nutrients due to being so refined, but it's also because of its refining process that it has lower amounts of natural toxins. It's a clean carb that can be eaten in moderation.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      So there's no difference between oils i use as dressing or thermal interface in a pan, as long as i operate with literally tablespoons of stuff a day and dont deepfry everything as typical amerimutt, and consume muh grains and muh veggies?
      I usually cook with olive oil and butter anyway, i just wonder how much i can pan-fry daily

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wait Omega 6 are bad?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Basically. It’s because modern humans eat way too many of them. I remember “6 bad, 3 good” because 6 is part of 666.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        But there’s three sixes in 666 so isn’t three bad as well?

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pecan is the best nut. Not even close bros.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you are from eastern europe you can bulk on these.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    sneed oils (other than cold pressed oils like coconut, avocado and olive oil) go through a horrible processes and are filled with straight up toxic shit due to the manufacturing process. they are also ridicoulusly high in calories. Seeds on their own are fine, make a great snack for bulking

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      all oils have the same caloric value. They're all pure fat.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        not exactly. in terms of effective calories: polyunsaturated > monounsaturated > saturated long chain > medium chain triglycerides > saturated short chain. but the differences are small, and their other effects are more important anyway.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >straight up toxic shit
      whoa whoa there einstein, cool it with the tech terms & specifics... let's use some common language.

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    indigestible trash

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      then why do they have calories smoothbrain

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    (We use the term “sneed oil” on this thread pal)

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    what is wrong with seed oils its the same as olive oil right guys?

    It's just a source of fat and used for cooking primarily. The "sneed oil" contingent on here just skipped their meds again, r..right bros?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      extra virgin olive oil just comes from pressing olives

      seed oil comes from adding some chemical industry waste oil thats not safe for human consumption making it odorless and tasteless and selling it as "healthy" same thing for "vegetable" oil, where the fuck is the oil in vegetables?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >olive oil
        wrong

        in the united states to be labeled as olive
        the percentage need only be above a certain amount
        they can add as much sneed as they want

        truly sickening

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fine if you remove the oils from them somehow. Peanut-butter powder doesn’t have any peanut oil in it.
    There are two reasons why seed oils are bad:
    - the extraction process oxidizes them and leaves trace amounts of hexane (I think this is a bigger problem for, say, rapeseed oil)
    - they’re high in PUFAs and what MUFAs they have are mostly omega-6, which you probably get too much of anyway

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    all seeds are bad except pecans because I said so

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. Pecan oil mogs olive oil too

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pumpkin seeds make me coom ropes.

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    seed oils aren't bad in moderation dumbass.
    do you know how many seeds it takes to make one teaspoon of seed oil though?
    or vegetable oil for that matter?
    that's the problem.

    You eating a cup of seeds is not going to hurt you ever.
    a single cup of plant based oils is roughly 3 cups worth of plant. give or take a cup.

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