I unironically want these so called "sex havers" on IST to post body ITT
Do you guys look like david laid or what
I need to know I mog you guys so I can stop gymceling
post body and body count and maybe a sexual accomplishment of yours
sex havers
I unironically want these so called "sex havers" on IST to post body ITT
Do you guys look like david laid or what
I need to know I mog you guys so I can stop gymceling
post body and body count and maybe a sexual accomplishment of yours
If you’re going to the gym for the sole purpose of attracting women you should save yourself the trouble and stop now
i'm not i actually love exercise, but i'm still convincing myself i need to be hotter in order to start dating around
Post body and we'll tell you.
Post body
/thread
Women don’t care if you’re IST it’s like a bonus there’s tons of more important factors. I ficked tons of bitches at my heaviest which was 270. But that’s me an you probably need all the help you can
Are you me ??
>I ficked tons of bitches
How 2 fick sir
Granted they were mostly ugly and fat chicks pussy is pussy. Just be yourself.
mans bragging like it meant something, they here cause they wanna fuck hot ones, not uggos and fatties
Have a good personality and be friendly that’s it.
I go to the gym in hope that I'll like myself at least a little bit, what you've posted is not nice
Fpbp
I started lifting for girls, and I still enjoy it but unfortunately I only feel great about my body when it's the object of sexual desire. not good because I'm getting closer to 30 and it's kind of fucking with me when I try to think about what I want from a serious relationship
Ottermode with shit insertions and ridiculously big legs due to my bone structure, I mog most normies but any serious gymbro mogs me to hell and back, no contest. Had sex with around 20 women most of them when I was a druggie. My sexual accomplishment is almost having. a heart attack when I was having sex with a girl, this led me to the IST lifestyle.
YAGMI but yeah as the other anon said you don't need much of a body to impress women, you're probably good on that front.
just have a good face, thats it....yep
I hate to tell you this boys, but if girls didnt start coming up to you in 7th grade and talking to you or passing notes or texting or having their friends talk to you for them, then you are ugly. Im sorry, its true. That is the secret.
I was honestly never in 7th grade. Not op btw
I skipped 7th grade...what does this mean for me?
Happened to me quite a bit. But I was extremely autistic. So autistic infract that I showed my mom and mocked the girl who texted me randomly asking me to be her friend. I called her a friendless loser but that bitch was ultra popular kek. I've come into my own now.
One girl clearly showed interest in me, texted me and started texting me in 7th grade. She asked me to dance with her ona birthday party of my friend and I just walked away as quickly as I could and hid under a table. How autistic was I?
You are so autistic that you still think about some flirt over text from 7th class. Like next level pathetic
>had 6 cute girls in middle school wanting to go out with me
>went out with one
>a few were interested in high school
>had a hookup with my childhood friend during that time as well
This all happened during what I consider my ugliest too, I then went through a 3 year NEET period and became basically autistic and unsociable and yet managed to get a fwb with some random 17yr old while playing pétanque
Guess this means I'm not that ugly after all
if you have fwb sex that means you're top 10% on esthetics. most women hate giving sex for free if you're not a real prize
Idk man, she's also pretty mentally ill and is going out with a 5/10 beta looking dude
I managed to make out a few times(fingering included) with my childhood crush when I was basically a pathetic alcoholic. Was madly in love with that girl but she told me that although I make her horny she doesn't love me.
I still don't get it tho, I've always thought that I was ugly as hell and that being shitfaced, threating to fight your friends and puking on the ground isn't attractive either.
>thats it....yep
say that to my face and not online and see what happens
Oh you wanna go tough guy?
>207
Crawl back to the sharty from whence you came
It's mostly face. Body just makes them coom faster when they're already in bed with you.
I'm at a 21 count, my body is in the cbt
More than half of that was back when I was skelly tho
I bloatmaxxed and still have sex. The problem isn't your body.
24 slept with 5 people. Some casual some long term relationships. I also was sleeping with people when I weighed 50 more lbs than this getting fit fixes nothing if you don’t know how to talk to women
>people
Hmmmm
3, but I got laid within 2 weeks of making a fresh tinder/bumble account, so it's just from lack of caring.
Causal sex from dating apps gets old quick but OP if you really just want to get laid it is the way. I had best results from Hinge and Bumble hated tinder
They all suck because they're glorified pimps trying to milk money out of you without paying their volunteer whoreforce.
Lmao that’s one way to look at it. I think it’s just an unnatural way to force relationships and sex based on just physical characteristics and loneliness.
I've gotten laid on dating apps and haven't paid a dime uggo
It's called the free trial bait period or dating below your league
Whatever helps ya cope champ
Hinge is still good but Bumble is at least 95% of the following now:
1. E-whores who's only description is "FOLLOW MY INSTA OR SNAP FOR MORE CONTENT"
2. Morbidly obese cows with the tag "have kids and don't want more", with their description occasionally saying they are into "ethnical non-monogamy"
Bumbles has some beautiful angels in my city but also in a popular college town. Hinge from my experience isn’t that great for hook ups but fantastic for first dates. Honestly Instagram-maxxing is the most effective online dating strat from my experience
Redpill me on instagram-maxxing
How do I IGmaxx when i only know like 4 people.
people meet on instagram? wtf. im getting old
I stopped keepimg track of my body count in the hundrids
Height is 80% of attraction.
Everywhere I go I see prime Stacies paired up with ugly-average guys who would be incels if they weren't over 6 foot. Height commands respect from women and men, gets you hired over everyone else in group interviews, gets you promoted above your peers in the workplace, and gets you paid more on average. No one will start fights with you, and you can get away with being a complete dyel and you will mog a lifetime of gymcelling with 2" of height. You can also say <12% bodyfat year round with zero effort.
Face is 19% of attraction, approximately 7% jaw, 7% hair and 5% eyes. Having an attractive face is your only saving grace if you're under 6 foot and if you're under 5'9" then your face doesn't matter because you're invisible.
The remaining 1% can be attributed to things like muscle or personality or money.
>Height is 80% of attraction.
>Everywhere I go I see prime Stacies paired up with ugly-average guys who would be incels if they weren't over 6 foot. Height commands respect from women and men, gets you hired over everyone else in group interviews, gets you promoted above your peers in the workplace, and gets you paid more on average. No one will start fights with you, and you can get away with being a complete dyel and you will mog a lifetime of gymcelling with 2" of height. You can also say <12% bodyfat year round with zero effort.
So just get heightfrauding insoles and thick heeled shoes.
6'1" is manlet-tier in the eyes of women.
Go on Tiktok, 2 metres is the new 6 foot most women want a guy who is at least 6'9"
not true because i have larped as 195cm. it doesn't work. tinder is 80% face given you're not a manlet
there are kids and girls, immature people on tiktok. not women you idiot.
Join some clubs, meetups, jezus christ get OUTSIDE.
JUST DONT STARE AT A SCREEN YOU FUCKING RETARD
Autists will refute this
And If you're a permavirgin, you can join a church, go to small groups and meet a qt trad virgin wife instead of playing the sinful sex game
op here i'm 6'1 and get 0 attention from grills. no success at all online dating either.
and i'm legitimately pretty cute too.
also no i cannot stay <12% body fat easily i'm actually working my ass off to get there now
Post body fag I did
op here
this is a pretty ideal photo for me as i have wide wips and don't look great from the front
pump also
Dude you look great but you gotta cope with looks aren’t the issue then if your having trouble picking up girls. I have multiple DYEL friends who get laid from just being funny at bars. If bars/clubs aren’t your scene definitely go on the dating app grind make sure the pictures are good. Should be a mix of pictures of just you and you with friends doing fun stuff no fucking selfies. Coming off as confident not desperate is really the most important part. Too many fags reek of being desperate and nothing repulses girls more.
You look good anon, just talk to girls its a skill in its own right. Put the reps and sets into that same as the gym and you’ll be fine
You look good but kek that shoulder width is so unfortunate. How tall are you btw? I'd recommend to look for a better hair style that's lighter on the sides and heavier on the top to give the impression of a wider frame
Damn man, that cat had enough
Do you socialize? If you are all those things you claim to be, all you have to do is attend social gatherings where there are single women and you will get laid. Assuming you aren't autist tier retarded at social events.
How to get invited to social events you ask? Brother I'll let you know when I figure it out
idunno, i know a 5'8 guy that has a good face and jaw and slays. he's rich too
def tall is the easy life
I think this is true to some degree because I’m relatively tall 6’3 without shoes, and girls have told me they like standing next to me because I make them feel safe and protected
Get thick insoles problem solved? I dont get heightcels. If you couple it with tall shoes in the first place, you can almost stretch to an extra half foot or 6 inches
>t.robert Downey jr
Autism.
Fitness should be a personal pursuit, lifting by itself will not get you girls. This pic was taken by an ex of mine. I also met my current gf when I was a skinnyfat piece of shit
Not tall either. This post is pathetic
I’m anti social nerd dyel who was fat and got some good pussy, wtf are you guys doing?
I don't exercise to get pussy. I exercise instead of getting pussy.
10 body count
I'm 27, last month I fucked a smoking hot 19 year old.
Based gaincel. I didn't get laid at all last year, I was just focusing on improving myself and getting fit.
Forgot pic
Getting pussy is easy af. Liking yourself is the real end game.
Every photo you post is that much more useless than the last.
I know giddy got 20 bodies minimum
Yeah and he's still a virgin
>Ugly.
>completely unremarkable genetics in every way.
If you'd cut the hair on the sides of your head short and trim your beard, you'd be fairly attractive
Pretty good physique overall tho
>skipping face day
i’m sexy and lean and have a pretty face and never had to put in effort to get sex
Ottermode is all that's required for the highest quality women tbh with you lads
NON sex haver
26yo, 6'2, have basically never had sex (but I'm good at getting girls off)
>basically
WDHMBT?
>coerced into sex by an ex
>on antidepressants at the time
>she later killed herself (not my fault)
>dead girls don't count, back to zero
Howdy, fellow virgins
its probably cos you dress like a tool, sorry bro
Body count is 9 I'm just not super social and stick to committed relationships.
Please remove that God awful beard and those finger tats
>stick to committed relationships
>9
I don't mean to be rude, but all the bodies posted ITT are kind of DYEL
no i won't post body, I'm DYEL too
Gymcels when they learn DYELs have sex
>but all the bodies posted ITT are kind of DYEL
Of course, they're people who have sex. Only incels look like they lift.
I have sex like once a year with an ugly, fat, or broken person I match with on a shitty dating app and this has been going on for 5 years. Long ago I had a singular female girlfriend.
I won't post body cause I am a paranoid schizo but I am pretty fucking fat and have had sex with 6 women
1 hambeast, 2 below average women, 2 cute women and 1 conventionally hot chick I don't really like rating women but just going off what my buddies have said.
If I was in good shape I would be a handsome chad. But I am just naturally funny and do my best to be a good person.
>Sexual accomplishment
I have surprisingly good sex cardio and typically last 20mins-hour and thats doing all the work
Built like pic related
i worked in the service industry for a long time and was known to be a whore
idk what my actual body count is anymore i think its somewhere around 80 or 90.
if the sole purpose of you lifting is for girls you're doing it wrong, girls dont care. how ever if you want to be dominant when you have sex keep lifting.
>sexual accomplishments
>fucked a whole friend group
>was the reason for a lot of girls to cheat in their relationship
inb4 im a asshole
>they're gonna cheat anyways might as well have it be with me
>multiple 3somes
>literally a prostitute since i exchanged sex for money
what's your level of sex drive in order to do this.
i think my sex drive isn't high enough and i don't realy want girls as bad as i think (mainly because of fapping)
well when i was 18 to 26 i was horny all the time. i'd have a girl lined up for pretty much every day of the week. sometimes multiple girls a day if i wasn't working. now im 28 mellowed out a lot, then again it also depends on your partners. i've had girls where i cant keep my hands off them and every night 3 or 5 times a night multiple times a a week.
everyone is partner is different and you have to go in blind essentially.
this thread is eye-opening
some of you guys shouldn't have issues at all, but it is different trying to cold approach or use apps, vs. just working with a lot of women
like this guy:
just from working with women there are a lot more opportunities for spontaneous attraction to occur, even without being the most handsome or tall guy around.
So many anons on this board are still in college as well. No better time to meet people, but they hide themselves away.
>Gurl stares
>I prompt for sex
The best I can do
This really is it. The ONLY thing that matters in getting laid is your proximity to women.
I wish I was a sex haver
What lifts are good for sex havers?
What rep range?
Cardio? What? How much per week?
Hopefully a real seasoned sex haver answers this so I can be informed
Maybe one day I will become a sex haver
>please help me
Notice how every sex haver in thread says being fit doesn’t matter when it comes to getting laid retard
Yes, but see also:
and
. If you want to attract higher tier women, a good body goes a long way.
Every guy who says he's had sex with dozens of women always fails to mention nearly all of them are fatties and/or trashy sluts
Correct. You can safely disregard every poster that says something to the effect of "I have a big gut and still get laid"
This. I've fucked once but she was a fat chick and I didnt at all enjoy the sex because I death gripped my cock from all the porn I watched. And her gut was so fat it was like I was having sex with a fat little boy. It was a miracle I even stood hard tbh.. after that experience I cannot ever find fatties attractive and do not understand chubby chasers. I see the appeal to "thick" girls who have godly fat distribution genetics or whatever but even then it still disgust me because these ladies will only get fatter the longer you date them.
it's probably an internet thing. looking at pictures of chicks is so different from actually being with them
Car sex is awesome sex and you will never convince me plowing some chick in her Toyota Corolla isn't banging
No shit theyre trashy sluts anon thats why its a pump n dump not a pump n keep around, non sluts dont hookup or have fwbs.
Slept with 21 and at least 2/3, probably more, of them were good decent girls, I just make women want to be sluts for me, even if only for a night, keep coping tho or whatever it is you do in your free time
I just want to enjoy the sounds of someone's junk bloating bigger and bigger. Just sit me in a room with them and have them drink a junk embiggening drink and just listen as the room goes from dead silent to extremely horny junky, sloshy, groaning sounds and stuff.
I want to enjoy the sounds of you choking to death on your own vomit
This but with more violence
Thanks for ruining decent girls
anytime man, you should try it sometime, hell she might even stick around if you're lucky
No, that's ok.
>decent girls
stop drinking 4chan koolaid
Yeah so? Does sex with sluts not count or something?
Cope loser.
>omg she had sex before!!
>porn stars? so hot, I want to fuck
I guess the lower body fat percentage the more attractive you'll look, cardio it is then
Im 30 and my only sexual experience was a blowjob at an asian massage parlor. It was $40 and it wasnt that good.
2
>gays fiend over me and sexually assault me
>girls that are attractive hit on me but no emotional connection so idgaf also whores and it shows their true nature
Women are the ultimate blackpill.
It’s literally better to have never loved than loved at all. Anyone who thinks having female attention is a good thing is out of their mind. Women are capable of the worst shit you can imagine and will constantly prove that. There is NO such thing as unconditional love, regardless of attractiveness.
basado
I feel sorry for you, get a therapy, feeling no love is not a good thing
How TF is ur serratus so noticable? Do you train it specifically somehow? Mirin abs and decent arms especially for that bf%
>It’s literally better to have never loved than loved at all.
Femoid here, I agree about relationships. I've dated a lot of guys and was overall happy, then I met a guy and we got into a serious relationship for several years and while I thought that's what I wanted, in retrospect it kind of killed parts of me. Goals I had got pushed aside in favor of the relationship. People tend to settle in relationships. It sucked breaking up but now I'm back to my old self, feeling ambitious again. My only regret is the years lost. Really don't think I'll ever do it again. Sorry you've had some demonic women in your life
>local woman taking a few years to find herself
>There is NO such thing as unconditional love
you parents did dirty on you
That's not true. I am sorry if you never felt unconditional love from or towards someone, especially family, but just because people make mistakes and don't always work out well, it does not mean it's never worth trying. Take it from someone who has had success in everything I've ever committed to academically, financially, career wise etc. but did so at the cost of any love or close connections outside of family: not trying to make connections with people will leave you a well adjusted, functioning, absolute mess. My only real regret in life is not trying to know more people when I had the chance. I can feel happy all I want sitting comfortably at home working, making decent money, playing video games, eating nice food etc. but loneliness can only be suppressed for so long.
Here is the tier list of what it takes to have sex.
Neurotypicality>height>face>physique
Unless you're obese, physique is the last priority.
>neurotypicality
well i am so fucked then
Yeah, it's rough for you, although you likely wouldn't be able to handle women's bullshit anyways. Get a prostitute if you wanna have sex, it's cheaper and less stressful than a gf.
This. They want to talk about nothing constantly and they call you every 30 minutes for no reason. I grew up with 2 sisters who were decent people, so I thought women could be good but all my gfs were acting crazy.
As an American, the one and only thing I’m truly jealous of about Europe is how easily accessible and legal prostitution is.
Its legal in only a few countries and the service is worse than that of illegal prostitution.
This is true I am handsome enough to "get a girlfriend" when I'm masking but after a month or so I start to sperg and poof they're gone. Don't want to date anymore just 'cause I know I'm gonna get dumped as soon as the jig is up. Would trade anything to be neurotypical like my fat ugly happily married friend
Just stop basing your personality on IST memes and you're g2g.
I couldn't care less about sex. I want a loving relationship.
>Neurotypicality
Yep. If you're autistic/introverted/socially anxious as a man you either learn not to be or learn to accept being alone.
I ain’t posting anything
If you can’t figure it out on your own I’m not posting my WIP body for you to feel better about yourself
Idk but it pisses me off when i see fatasses with gfs
Does all pussy feel the same? I've had sex a few times and would like a weigh in from the experts.
For the most part, yeah. Every once in a while though, you’ll find a really nice, tight pussy.
Fat chicks have looser vaginas, at least from my experience. I honestly regret the sex I've had. I wish I had just settled down with somebody and started a family
Im 1.78 and I have slept with 50+ women. I also was successful with women before getting fit. Most guys are just to spergy have bobcats and think getting some muscle will fix everything. Also being lean is way more important then being massive or bulking up. If you are lean your face looks way better. Women care about a nice face a good sense of humor and nice hands. Also good hygiene
>Most guys are just to spergy have bobcats
What did he mean by this?
lol sorry I meant most guys should try sex with men first to get their confidence up that's what I do
WTF i don’t know what I intended to type there
Well we can also say
>feeeeemales
If you prefer that
>50+ women
>women
You're a 5. Stop posting pics like you lookd good. You don't.
nooo u cant just have sex you have to looksmaxx until i give you an official 8+/10
Yea but I don’t wanna fuck you so the rating of sum 4 Chan bro is irrelevant Lmao
You look like you have herpes and genital warts.
ahhh the std cope, a true classic
This beard cut makes you look like a gay bottom
Decent physique except id work on lats
Hispanics are the one race the blackpill doesn't apply to
Why does their perceived visual attraction mean so much to you?
Everyone else has said it but you gotta really believe anon. It's not looks. It's about being the kind of person that a certain minority will freely fuck because it's a mutually pleasurable experience.
Visual attraction is the first thing people notice about each other, anon. It’s just how human brains work.
Yeah but not everyone is walking around wanting it dude.
People have a wide variety of emotional states and there's nothing to do about that, so you can hope to be an interesting character either visually or socially.
Yes, but attractive people objectively have it easier. I’m not saying to dwell over it, but it’s gotta be acknowledged.
Agreed, you have to work with what you have, most attractive people are dumb and boring anyway, they never had to work all that hard and that makes them unattractive to me, would I still bang a ditzy hot chick? of course, but I'm mostly attracted to ambition and genuine intelligence, not just book smarts either, a 6/10 chick that can talk about anything, adapt to any situation and can rewardingly challenge you in ways you haven't even thought of, is worth leagues more than some self absorbed, shallow 9/10
us bad bros suffer from pretty privilege and it’s exhausting
You most likely mog me.
I'm a Filipino with average face, but I'm 6'2 and that's why I get to be a sex haver.
Body count is like 14 or 15 (honestly dont remember) and all of them except 1 was when I looked even worse than left, like 10-15lbs heavier with even less muscle. I dont have any pics when I was at that weight because I hated my body too much to take any. Left is 215lbs right is 180lbs. All of them met off tinder except 2, one was at an anime con and the other lived in a dorm across from me and just randomly snapchatted me her tits at 3am. All of this was within 2 years btw.
You probably mog me OP. Anytime I hear someone who's fit complaining that they cant get laid its either because their standards are unrealistically high or they have risk averse social skills, or both. Or theyre going after girls based entirely on looks and not focusing on if you actually have mutual interest and compatible personalities.
I am also literally autistic although I probably have more charisma than most autistic people. But if I can do it so can you.
>Anytime I hear someone who's fit complaining that they cant get laid its either because their standards are unrealistically high
Most of us just don’t want to fuck fatties but lack confidence to approach thin, cute girls even if they seem receptive.
Thats fair only 3 of my bodycount werent fat, most were slightly chubby i did shamefully fuck 2 hamplanets on particularly bad nights though. Not ashamed to admit my past obviously being a fat fuck makes it way harder. But I still did land a few conventionally attractive women. So again you can do it too.
There needs to be a rule that overweight women don't count, I'd like to see the numbers of all these "I looked fat and terrible but still fuck women" posting with that constraint.
> their standards are unrealistically high
Whelp there it is, folks.
I dont understand this if youre overweight why do overweight women not count? And where do we draw the line? Angela White is overweight by BMI, if I fucked her would that not count?
Yeah I get that most people wont fuck hamplanets, I wouldnt either, but if your standards are unrealistically high it means youre not going after women who are looksmatched with you. If you think you are and cant get any, hate to break it to you but you probably dont look as good as you think you do.
I'm not extremely picky, especially with fat, woman in your pic has an acceptable bf% imo
for me face >>>>> whether or not a girl is a little bit above healthy weight
IST would not believe my body count and would tell me various things of eat more and if I even lift (IST is correct to ask these questions)
Bonus points for fag link comments
Most of this board start from fat, not thin. I think the vast majority of posters here would happily settle for just having a nice flat stomach and no man boobs.
I agree for I too would like a flat stomach.
Not abs just less pooch
god I hate the phrase 'body count'
wont take a picture but here are my fatass stats:
>5'10
>240lb
>35% bf
my face and godtier wide shoulders have given me an easy and confortable sex life
man these threads kind bum me out. ive only had sex with like 4 women and im 31. i basically withdrew sexually completely for 6 years once i was finally in decent shape due to some psycho accusing me of rape. oh well, guess all you can do is try to make up for lost time.
I'm 30 and had sex once when I was 16.
Lol women moment. Same thing happened to me, I was making out with my coworker in my bed after getting her to come home with me one night. She told me she didn't want to go too far since she just broke up with her boyfriend (literally a day or two prior to this, shits crazy). I'm like ok and we end up getting naked. I got on top of her to keep kissing her but then she felt my dick touch her pussy and thought I was trying to rape her. Thing is, I had whisky dick because we had been drinking so I couldn't have raped her even if I actually wanted to. She ended up leaving in the middle of the night after we awkwardly fell asleep together. Things were awkward at work at first, she skipped a day where we were supposed to work together and usually she sat at our table during lunch but then she started sitting alone. I don't know what I did, but I managed to talk to her one on one over lunch on a free day. I just tried to seem very apologetic, didn't even look her in the eyes to try to show some shame (she even picked up on this cause later I told her I was so ashamed and she was like "ohhh thats why you wouldn't look me in the eyes"). We ended up hooking up regularly after that, she wanted me to creampie her and everything. I even clarified down the line that I had whiskey dick so I wasn't doing what she thought I was.
Moral of the story is bitches are crazy
>woman gets turned on
>doesn’t know how to emotionally process this
>I WAS RAPED
It’s a defense mechanism
Guy went from kissing to rubbing her with his limp dick
She wanted to be gently persuaded into believing it was a good idea and he sperged out
it was the height of metoo insanity too. absolutely crushed by budding self confidence (former fat boy) and fucked my ability to trust others. figured it was better to be alone than to be lynched by the mob. but idk, we press on. still dont hate women. theyre about as bad as men on average.
literally. she pulled the 'acshually im like totally a lesbian' a couple months later. i guess for the attention idk. stay the fuck away from women with bright colored hair is what i learned. arthoes dont even register to me. muy peligroso.
Girls don't like tryhards. You are a tryhard, anon. This thread is a proof of it.
Im having sex and Im fat. Laid 3 girls in my life multiple times (relationships). It's not about the muscles brother.
Dyel with 6 inch wrists, not even ottermode but bordering on skinnyfat. I married my high school sweetheart. You can't mog me.
I don’t care how many fatties you stuck your jimmy in if you post your own picture on IST it automatically removes any clout you had and turns you into a massive trans virgin homosexual person
Go back to another website, in fact
I hope you’re permanently banned from the internet for being too gay for everyone else
Back in my man slut arc I was about 80-85kg at 6' and 15-20% bf
Not jacked, dyel by standards here, my lifts them were around 1/2/3/4
Painfully average, maybe a 6 on a really good day
None of that mattered though, as long as you're not a 4 or below then there are women who will want to fuck you, and note that people who are 4s and below are less than 10% of the population, looks unironically don't matter
I pulled a hell of a list of women, some of them very attractive, it was fun, but ultimately draining, I made some guest appearances as a bull, really flung my wild oats all over town, and after a time I realised that cheap sex will never satisfy my spiritual and emotional needs, so I stopped fucking everything in a skirt or trousers
I have a body count in the 20s and you would have a nice day if you knew how i look lmao. Tall, but not overly so (6'3"), good face, dadbod, smart and extroverted. It's literally that easy. I'm even balding kek. Huge dick but i don't see how that helps getting me laid until we're already naked (maybe the confidence)
Even banged two models, one of them stayed for half a year
I’ve never really had a woman show interest in me and I’m 20. I’m a bit fat (170lbs) but losing weight, I’m also 5’7. I’m socially awkward so I can’t really meet women irl and dating apps don’t work for me. What do I even do?
Try getting a haircut that doesn't make u look like a clown
I swear 99% of zoomers have such painful shitty haircuts it's unreal
Yes while millennials have the best style
Tf you look like the generic fuckboy lol, would expect you to have a high bodycount
you're too ugly. literally nothing you can do about it. maybe if you jester some for a fat bitch but i don't think you'll ever have consensual sex with a healthy woman
OK doomer
bro i mog this guy to oblivion and i've only had a chance with a fat brown ugly young woman and an old ukranian roastie with literal roast beef
sure,but come on, he's not ugly, worst case scenario he's just '' average''
but it's so much easier to blame your face and forget about social awkardness that cripple every single fuckers of you in this god forsaken portuguese housebuilding imageboard
im sure he's fucked up mentally but with his face there's literally 0 chance a non-fat woman would ever look his way
The overarching issue is that you refuse to put yourself in social situations so you don't get better socially
Do something with someone you know in public and try to make friends from that and/or beyond
Cute, would.
I saw you post about being 170 months ago. you're not losing weight retard.
I’ve just realised I’m the nice guy meme. I’m extremely bland, have nothing to say mostly just act polite. There’s nothing more to me as a person
You may not like it, but this is the body of a man that gets his toes sucked by a 10/10 Giga Stacy. It’s literally all in the height.
>t. 6’4” dyel pussy slayer
At work so not posting body. 39, 5'8" 175 lbs cardio/calisthenics twink.
Body count 9, but i like long term relationships, was married for a while and have a kid.
I've never met a woman who cared much about my body, or i should say the only thing they really care about is my dick is kinda big.
You're not gonna pick up girls by looksmaxxing, you have to work on flirtmaxxing. Ugly fatfucks pick up girls all the time with their personality, you can too.
Accomplishments: fuck in public regularly, multiple threesomes (very overrated), and i have a fetish for pregnancy scares.
>have a fetish for pregnancy scares
how the fuck is that sexual accomplishment lmao
I get off on it, and most of the time so do the girls, so we stop using condoms, if we ever use them in the first place. It's an accomplishment because of how often we have unprotected sex.
Just go all in with the gymcel route, what's the worst thing that can happen? You get stronger, bigger and more capable while getting zero STDs. You also save time and money for more useful stuff. Casual sex is like eating goyslop, the less you have it the better you feel.
I've slept with about 10 girls. all of them were Asian. I lost my virginity to a 29-year-old psychotic bitch who refused to have oral sex because she was saving it for marriage. my last girlfriend was a BPD abusive loon with a 9.5/10 face that scarred me mentally for life. the best blowjob I ever received was from a girl 10 years younger than me from Brunei.
I want off this ride
From what I understand sex havers of this board is as deranged as incels of this board
Yes, but we are luckier and possibly more attractive
Body has very little to do with it. Here's the easiest steps:
>put yourself in situations with women in relaxed areas (not the fucking supermarket or some autistic shit, think bars/parties w/e)
>act relaxed, laidback but interested in the social situation
>try to approach women through the broader social situation, 4-5 people partaking in the dialogue is great
>see if there's common interest, in that case pursue
Alot of the rest is just your social skills and gut feelings, there's no script for autists, I've had girls who very obviously showed interest in me and pursued that, and I've also just walked up to a dancing women at afterparties and just started grind/making out
Alcohol helps to quell the inner skeptical voice, we're all just apes looking to connect, act like one of the hot apes and you might be seen as such
thanks anon.
i want to be able to do it without alcohol because of the absolute garbage health effects and sleep effects
Married, regular sex: 5'9" 175lbs 16%bf
Not posting a shirtless pic on IST, you homosexual.
mostly fuck hotwives & chicks off feeld
you need a bbc for that i can tell you're small
you just want me to post my cock
what are the measurements?
i'm 7.5x6
im same but im incel
I'm similar size and it hurts girls.
Be ready to trouble the first time
I got laid way more back when I was dyel than I do now, kek
29 years old, 3 gfs, 30+ bodycount, fucked girls from the US, Portugal, France, Netherlands, Germany, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil
all of that being Brazilian, which is a penalty in itself
Qual o seu segredo, anão?
t. 25yo virgin.
27, had sex with 9 or 10 women (one was a 4y relationship) and only 2 of them were any good (my ex and one other chick), the rest drunken fumbles.
My face is pretty good too, I think I should be way higher personally. They were all attractive at least, I don't fuck fatties or uggos.
You dont need to have some ridiculous body or face to get laid. Just dont be an absolute whale, have a modicum of hygiene, and don’t be a total sperg. The bar is so incredibly low bro all this incel shit is a meme and only true for like the bottom 1% of men
Here’s what most IST posters are actually asking:
"How can I get women to approach me first because I’m too scared to make the first move?"
>the first move?"
bro... it's not just the first move that's the problem, it's all the moves
I look like this, I just have a more wide Neanderthalish face
Fucked two girls, one was a crazy bitch with daddy issues and was part gnomish.
Second is my current gf who is actually a lovely and caring woman with a functioning and wholesome family.
Most of the other women who were somehow attracted to me were ussually girls with daddy issues for some reason
I wouldn’t believe me either. Not even fatties or uglies. I’m shy, I’m awkward, no real hobbies, and I’m broke. But I’m 6’2”. I get approached by women out of my league more than I approach women in my league. It’s like a 4/10 girl with an amazing ass I guess.
I wouldn’t believe me either and you may not like it, but this is peak male performance.
I also am a fat shit who is 6'5" and I hit over 30 before I finally got married. Bonus points I literally am autistic.
I don't mean this to say "manlets btfo", I mean this to inform that most chicks, especially young ones, are vapid fucks and aren't worth your time anyways.
Live you life, lift for YOU.
>I don't mean this to say "manlets btfo", I mean this to inform that most chicks, especially young ones, are vapid fucks and aren't worth your time anyways.
>Live you life, lift for YOU.
Brother I could not have said this better myself. I’m out here looking and living how I am piping 7-8/10s even had a 9/10 recently, but they’re garbage. Not relationship material girls, basically just sluts with whatever the fuck issues. It’s actually been 5 months since I turned 27 and decided I would actively avoid soulless hookups to improve and fix my life so that I can be happy again, and maybe even meet a woman who I truly like and is worth dating.
You don't even need to be tall
My friend is a turbo manlet, around 5'4 is a fucking retard and girls still simp for him. I still have difficulty understanding what women actually find attractive
Similar body
5'10
Have dated OF thots with hundreds of thousands of IG followers, body count is way above 30 (probably like 80-100 if you count head, would get head more than fuck because i like it more)
I believe you
ur charismatic and fun to be round, news flash 4 u btw
>but anon im awkward
in a charming way
i know you're bullshiting because im 6'2" and with a infinitely better frame and physique than you and i've never been approached
Idk what to tell you man. It comes in waves while looking like this. I’ll have 316 months of nothing, then suddenly I’ll have 5 girls chasing me. I was the most successful when I was a 160lb skeleton. Lifting lessened the amount of girls interested in me but have me the confidence to interact with the ones that were. Getting fat reduced the amount of women who are into me by like 75%. But it still happens and I’m as baffled as you. I would not fuck or date me in my current state. I don’t even have a good face either. This dude says I’m charismatic
but he’s wrong. I’m autismo to the max, my only real interests are animals and nature, I suck at conversation unless it’s about animals and nature which is fucking weird because it makes me sound like a retard or a little kid. The shyness is only charming when I’m in the field of 15% bodyfat because then instead of creepy it’s seen as cute. And despite this, sex just happens for me. Literally just falls in my lap randomly. I had to find all new motivation to start fixing my health and physique because getting hot bitch pussy looking like this did more harm than good.
3-6 months *
did you know that wombat's poop is cube shaped ?
Yeah.
There’s species of snails that have a fairly brutal mating tactic. They’re all trannies and they fight, they have this spear or dart thing that’s coated in nut juice and they try to stab each other with it. Whichever one gets the shank has to be pregnant and lay the eggs and is the bitch snail. It’s pretty cool.
bed bugs are pretty gross too, female don't even have hole for sex so the male have to fucking stab her with his dick and litterally fill it with semen
Traumatic insemination is a hell of a thing
They also do that to smaller males, since the sperm causes an immune system reaction, lowering the fitness of any bedbug that is traumatically inseminated.
You fools don't realize the bigger you are the more insecure the women become which means the less they approach. Most women don't approach in the first place because they're cowards, becoming more attractive further reduces the chances they will. Yall don't actually go out and talk to a lot women you just rely on women talking to you in the first place. If y'all actually did you would know a lot of those women you write off because they don't talk to you first would be into you. The only reason why women approach you when you looked worse is because you aren't as threatening and there's less chance of being rejected because you don't look good enough to have higher standards.
most women get approached by all kinds of subhumans and chads. if a woman appraches you it means you're better than anyone else because everyone else makes it easy for her and she actually has to muster courage to approach
Not all the time, that's why skinny fats, and fatties will get approached by women. Because there's a lower chance of being rejected and because the women have low self esteem so they think they're actually matched
>that's why skinny fats, and fatties will get approached by women
that doesn't happen lol
Its rare but it will happen if the girls self esteem is low enough, or the man oozes charisma.
Quit being a coward an actually talk to women instead of relying on them making the first move. It doesn't matter if women talk to you or not what matters is the amount of women who become more receptive to talking to you the more attractive you get.
moron im just saying i've never been approached doesn't mean i don't approach
Bros, if you can't get laid when you're fat, you're never going to get laid.
I don't have a good personality (autism), or a good body, or a good face. You just have to be not disgusting and pleasant to be around.
This is true
I was having sex before I lost my initial fat (40% bf - 15% bf)
I've slept with maybe 12 people but most were relationships. I've been fat with no muscle, skinny with no muscle, otter mode, athletic mode, football mode, Bradley Martyn mode and I'm now built fat. I had sex with every one of my physiques.
The problem is now it's hard to cut when my wife gets off best on me being around 20% bf strongfat ogre mode
I'm 6'4 btw
24, sexually active for 3.5 years. 2.5 years of those have been with gf
23 years old
Little bit over 40 and the physique definitely helped
Who cares
Just have sex gay
Blackpilled
If you go to the gym to get women, you're going to the wrong place lmaoooooooo
I mog everyone and yet despite having put myself in social situations it seems I can’t consciously hide my autism. What are the drugs that gives you the closest feeling of love?
27khhv
Opiates, for me they literally feel like getting a warm hug and cuddling with your loved one
i only did kratom which only access 1 opioid receptor but it gives this very warm feeling in the lower chest / under it. I am not very intimate with other people but now that you say it does indeed feel much similar to being hugged or generally having contact with a person u feel safe with
I stopped using kratom, got kratom sick too many times bc I wanted to take more to feel it more but I always poisoned myself
I stopped kratom because when you get good at dosing it, it is insane addictive
Same boat, but I've managed to have sex a few times purely by being so drunk I wasn't able to fend them off with my autism. The truth is no matter how good you look you still need to be able to talk to women.
And like this anon said, the burden of approaching actually gets worse the better the look and the more ripped you are.
I have some insanely deep rooted fear of rejection because I got humiliated a few times in my teenage years. When I'm at a party and qt smiles at me I panic and this doesn't seem to go away no matter how big I get or how confident in regular situations
Dude you are over thinking this and wasting a lot of time and energy. I had slept with 12 women by age 20 and didn't start lifting until 27. Wanna know why they liked me? I looked like Drake Bell, I could tre flip a 6 stair, I knew where to get weed, and I had an amateurish understanding of guitar that comes with googling the tabs to a few dozen songs. Women like social status, confidence, and resources they can mooch from you. Your body is only an icing on that cake.
I hate sex havers tbh
>6’1” 205lbs
>1/2/3/4 some for 5 reps, some not
>happily married
Picture is yesterday from finishing my bulk. Started fat fuck 0 athletic experience, cut down 50lbs, bulked 20lbs. Simple fact is that I got my woman just from cutting and the most modest of noobie gains. At the end of the day, yes someone jacked and confident will outcompete someone who isn’t, but someone who is a wreck won’t get much vs a confident and lean guy. When chads say “be yourself” they mean be confident, many of them don’t have as amazing of physiques as you psyop yourself into believing. DONT BE OBESE. The reason a lot of those “good looking guys” get no matches online is because they’re usually slightly obese, and women sniff that out just from face pics. If you aren’t obese and have noob gains, after that it’s a matter of putting yourself out confidently and having passion and ambition, no one wants a faggy sarcastic atheist doomer redditor, even if he is jacked. Also your relationship to your social circle/hierarchy helps a lot. You don’t have to be some “friend group leader” but just have a respectable circle and be somewhat respected as an equal member yourself and women see that. If you are in college a sports team is the number one avenue towards, if not, you can do beer leagues and still get a lot of valuable social exposure. No matter what they tell you, women are romantics. Be someone they can fantasize about instead of just someone jacked who can’t hold a conversation. If you are an autist like me you need to accept that and treat socializing like a skill, learn it, take notes, and force yourself to be social until you are happy with your progress. My physique isn’t much and I did fine and people worse off than me did great too, all of the above factors are more important than physique (which is why you see jacked drug addict losers dating single mothers).
TL;DR
>have goals that don’t involve women, make friends, DONT BE OBESE
stg my pics must make me look obese online. i got damn hate taking pictures (with me in them) so i just dont have a big set to pull from.
i hate that 'dont be obese' still actually applies in burgerland despite women clearly not sticking to the same standard. not even 'women bad' just its fucking lame to do the work and not see it reciprocated in your prospect pool.
Ive never kissed a woman despite getting called captain america in white tees. This picture makes me look less wide than i actually am. My face is conventionally attractive. Minimum average or above. Im 5'9 180+. My goal is to start a mild cycle and then get on a dating app and literally just say "im a virgin looking to pipe hit me up".
skinny as fuck only kissed a woman once before excluding time I fucked prostitute
plan is to continue lifting and pretty much do the same thing in ~2 years virgin looking to hook up
I dunno whats under that shirt, but I'd advise if you want girls to stay as you are and not roid out
You're already hitting my male vision as a top tier physique, you're the kinda guy I'd walk past in the street while pointing to my bicep and nod at you smiling at your gains
Apparently chicks don't like massive dudes, and I'd assume you're just at the peak limit for them before it starts getting into the too big dip
Don't roid. You look fucking great. If you're in central to east Texas, I'll pop your cherry
Not into dudes sorry boss
For you spergs that can successfully fuck, are you the talkative type or the quiet type?
Talkative spergs instantly out themselves and I can't see girls being attracted to their weird antics, and that instead the successful autists are the quiet ones holding back their power level being all mysterious and shit, but then again if you don't really speak how tf do they get any type of relationship going
As a reserved 6'3 sperg I seem to get an inverse bell curve of sexual attraction where girls might be kinda into me at first meeting then stop within minutes to hours, but if we become more longterm friends they seem to wanna fuck me again
Nah just be a talkative sperg that is into interesting things. Especially with college girls. College chick is going to be turned off by rambling about MOBAs but will recognize deep knowledge about the humanities or something.
This is a great example of the jacked retard. Great physique, no friend circle, social status, or social skills, probably not confident around women either. You can fix that pretty quickly though. I’m sure if you tried you’d get laid super fast, you definitely don’t need a cycle to do so.
>jacked retard
Bittersweet. I probably am not confident around women. Im quiet and reserved at all times.
the cycle will give me the confidence boost i mentally need to overcome my body dysmorphia, i will know without a shadow of a doubt the physique will be all i need to get some pussy as stupid as this sounds. What holds me back is my mental block.
sounds like you want to do the cycle
if you know that's what you want, then don't let others stop you
Yeah when I say jacked retard it’s not insurmountable. Recognize your social issues and work on them. No way you’re trying to get laid and failing with your physique unless you really aren’t being social enough. You look like every chicks ideal frankly.
I am aware and am working on it. I dont try currently and dont reslly have a social presence outside of a small friend group of guys. No social media and i own my own businesses so no opportunity to meet anyone that way. There is better social circumstances coming for me though. I will lose it within a year i believe, i can feel it.
>the cycle will give me the confidence boost i mentally need to overcome my body dysmorphia
I had sex with ~25 girls in my teens/early 20s
It was like a game and I wasted so much time doing it
Was a tall, skinny low inhibition quasi bad boy
Now I'm fit and autistic and the thought of playing that game and jumping through the hoops is exhausting
>24, 6’, 175 lbs
I have fucked 4 girls. The first 2 were virgins and became obsessed with me.
The third was chubby and had only been with one other guy her whole life. She worshipped by body and dick like i was a god.
The fourth had fucked 10 other guys before me. She talked down on me, compared me to her previous partners constantly and gave me devastating confidence issues that stick with me to this day.
moral of the story?
Moral is you shouldn't fuck virgins then discard them
This
>t. 3/10 virgin shut in who fears being pumped and dumped
Just roid.
If you don't have at least 6/10 women attention then you aren't big enough
seems pretty nice ngl. on the other hand, i like being me too.
reminder that the average number of sexual partners for socially well adjust, moderate to high value people is about 2.8. People with numbers 6 and above are unsalvagable retards you don't want in your life.
>socially adjusted
Thats hivemind npc drone mentality, the idea is to live a succesfull life on your own terms and get laid,if you cant you are an NPC simple as.
Look at the 5 and above numbers inbetween applying ointment to your burning crotch. That group is all men sharing the same promiscuous women.
I am among those five and I have had an STD on three occasions and am pretty much unable to commit to anyone seriously
I don't think I have a good body
>count
At least 20. 23 yo
>accomplishment
I don't look at it that way, it's actually shameful a lot but I gotta feed the demon
I did cuck this guy once, they requested it, young married couple it was very weird and actually the whackest experience ever
Hookups are really easy you just need to be recklessly pursuant and flirtatious. It's not the same conversation as a potential gf
If you don't like engaging with strangers and aren't good at playing with kids you're not going to be good at flirting with women. No amount of muscles can compensate for autism, I'm sorry.
That said in the modern sexual economy you can wrack up dozens of bodies being a penniless drug addict in a punk squat. In fact, that helps.
lol doomers who say lifting doesn’t help. in the before pic i was a bitter 20 year old khv falling down the incel pit hard. I pretty much resented women.
i lost my virginity to a goth qt 6 months after picking up a barbell, and fucked around consistently for a few years until I met my wife
tbt, if didn't lift i probably would've been a virgin still
>i lost my virginity to a goth qt 6 months after picking up a barbell, and fucked around consistently for a few years until I met my wife
>Not sticking around the first time/ leaving after you get laid
All these posts about fucking and leaving when you could have stayed for a relationship are why women are mad at us.
And only make it harder for the next guy in her life
1 IST user fucking and leaving is honestly the least damaging feature of the dating world bro
women overall not opting for long term monogamy, that's something they have control over but are totally neglecting
>I unironically want these so called "sex havers" on IST to post body ITT
>Do you guys look like david laid or what
>I need to know I mog you guys so I can stop gymceling
>post body and body count and maybe a sexual accomplishment of yours
You are scum.
29 y/o kissless virgin never even been on a date. My face is average at best and I'm 6ft tall. I am quiet and lack social skills so never stood a chance. I wouldn't even know where to begin if a girl showed interest.
Just have sex. To do that, leave your house and join social things with women.. I don't even lift.
using body count as a metric of sexual success is like using the number of jobs you've had as a metric of career success
i envy the guy who has a hot young feminine gf than the guy who has slept with 2 dozen fatties, druggies, mentally ill, brainless, whores, etc.
Body count is a metric of success because what you have to do get a high body count. Any man can settle down with the first woman who tolerates him enough to fuck him. Judging a quality of a relationship is women shit since they can get duck easily but can't retain a relationship easy.
>Body count is a metric of success because what you have to do get a high body count.
nah, any loser can rack up a body count. there are plenty of losers having sex with other losers. obese 3rd worlders that shower once a week have no problem getting laid.
>Any man can settle down with the first woman who tolerates him enough to fuck him
yeah, that's what a large portion of men do and probably why the divorce rate is 50%. the average person is retarded.
A body count with actually attractive women and not uggos and fatties? No they can't
>body count: 5
>stopped-short-of-fucking-due-to-limp-dick: 10+
>body: shit
I refuse to participate in the dating market again until breast reductions are outlawed. No amount of lifting will save you from getting scammed by an insane bitch
I’m 6’3 and I’ve fucked 53 women. All consensual; only 3 one-night stands. I prefer to have relationships but I also know that the national divorce rate is 50%. If it’s not working then it’s gotta end
if you can't be powerful be rich
if you can't be rich be smart
if you can't be smart be nice
t. sex enjoyer
Believe me when I say 99% of you mog me. Im 30kg overweight and have bitchtits. Still have sex regularly with chicks out of my league. Dont ask me how cause I dont know it too. My face is maybe 5/6.5 which leads me to the question, how much of a pussy slayer I'd be if I had some of your bodies. Goddamn Id swim in it literally. Not even larping. Ask me anything
what would we ask you? you already said you dont know
I'm 6ft tall, weigh about 220lbs and have an average face. I have had sex with 13 women but have been in a relationship for the last 7 years.
My body is bog standard and I would definitely benefit from losing 20-30lbs.
My finest sexual achievement would definitely be getting a double blowjob during a threesome, the sensation was okay but psychologically nothing else has topped the visual.
The trick is to not be super fat or super skinny, most women are happy to settle for average bodies as long as the guy is nice to them.
Settle yes, first choice no