Should I buy it?

I'm 330lb and I'm looking to get in shape. Should I buy Starting Strength and do Stronglifts 5x5 along with cardio?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't give any money to that grifter cuck

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then should I just pirate it?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Then should I just pirate it?
        Yes homie

        Gosh zoomers don't even want to pirate something that doesn't even need VPN and it's only one libgen search away to get it

        I hate zoomers so much

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not him but sometimes it feels good owning a genuine copy of a legendary book
          I have books from the early 1900's I could easily get online for free but I wanted the real thing

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ss
            >legendary book
            pick one

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buy book that is available for free
    >do somebody else's program
    >with cardio
    ok moron.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then what the frick do I do?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if you want to do ss then do ss.
        if you want to do sl then do sl.
        read the fricking sticky.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What's the difference? Which is better?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ???!?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then what the frick do I do?

                picrel

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Rocky 4 disproved science based programs

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Rocky 4 was fricking lit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                1-5 were great. I haven't watched nu-rocky.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SS is better

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SS is better because of the initials.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but it's also better because 5x5 squats three times a week is overkill. SS also has some sort of progression of lift selection if I remember correctly, chins and dips are added in and there are clear suggestion on what to do when you start dropping reps.
                Maybe skip the power cleans though.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Look up any article on how Steve Reeves or Reg Park trained and do that.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >330 lbs
    >wants to so SS
    Don’t forget to do GOMAD to maximize your gains. Post your results too

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick that.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    “Get in shape” @ 330+lbs means losing a bunch of weight. Strength programs generally want you gaining weight as you progress. So those really aren’t going to help you reach your goal. Cardio will help some. But main thing is getting your diet and/or cravings under control so you’re losing weight consistently every single week. Then when you’re body fat is low enough to actually see some muscles you can think about lifting.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I already got my diet under control. I quit eating fast food and drinking soda. I just eat a lot and live sedentary lifestyle.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do you really though? Do you know how many calories you ate today, yesterday, the day before? How about last Tuesday. If you want to lose weight you need to know your daily limit and stay under it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I probably eat ~3,000 calories a day.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is no reason you can't drop that closer to 2k and get to a non-hambeast BMI much quicker

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              1k calorie deficit sounds extreme.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not for someone at 330 fricking pounds it's not.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think it matters how heavy you are, a calorie deficit greater than 500 is a lot. I'd probably end up looking like an elephant's vegana if I followed your advice.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >probably

            You have no idea how much you eat. Don't worry about a program, buy a notebook and track every calorie.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >diet under control
        get fricked
        >probably 3000cal a day
        key word being, "probably". drop that to 2000 and start writing down everything that goes through your piggie face hole. that includes grams of protein, carbs, fat as well as total calories. as far as lifting goes, literally do anything. you're obsessed and completely untrained and you'll get to experience noon gains while dropping weight even though you don't know what you're doing. you are one of the ones that have fricked their body up so badly that you can go frick around on machines for a couple of months while researching what program would best fit your goals while also losing weight. don't pretend like you have this shit under control or that you know what you're doing with your diet. you don't, and "probably" cements it. get your shit together and quit treating this like it isn't a big deal, it's literally your life that you're acting so flippantly about.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Dude, isn't a 1k calorie deficit too much?

          I don't think it matters how heavy you are, a calorie deficit greater than 500 is a lot. I'd probably end up looking like an elephant's vegana if I followed your advice.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For non obese people, yes. That's not the case for you. You're carrying fuel around already

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What if I were to eat at a 200 calorie deficit instead of 1000?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The mere fact you’re asking this means you haven’t read the sticky. So once more with feeling: read the fricking sticky.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get Practical Programming instead. Mark Rippetoe also worked on that book but I believe Kilgore was the main writer. Kilgore has a PhD in anatomy and physiology, he also competed at national level for about 10 or so years.
    Practical Programming is going to give you all the information needed to program your own routine based on your goals

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't waste your money paying for a program at 330 lbs. Use a free online calculator, find your maintenance calories, eat 500-1000 below that. Lift whatever you find fun.

    Once you no longer resemble a small elephant you can start worrying about what to lift and when. You're going to lose so much muscle dropping weight that caring now is a waste.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what do u need ss for youre already 330 pounds lol

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What if he wants to he 660? :^}

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buying anything at your weight is stupid. Look up a 3 day program like PPL, run it once a week with cardio every day. Your most important challenge, besides mental, is diet. Fix your diet or you're spinning your wheels for nothing.

    Don't spend a fricking dime on stupid programs, coaches, anything. Eat better, grow a pair and learn discipline. There is no easy way. People join HAES and fight to make being obese normal rather than just discipline themselves into a healthy weight. If it was easy, everyone would be skinny and healthy. Resist temptations and grow stronger.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >into a healthy weight.
      Your post is trash.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you're 330lbs you're already in shape according to rip

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do Phraks GSLP, it has better progression schemes, and when you inevitably get stuck and have to deload, you can still hit rep PRs when you're building back up.

    At your weight the most important thing you can do is stay steady with a diet and the gym. Don't worry about pushing bigger numbers, just go to the gym 3 times a week religiously, and stick to a diet.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its a meme for hypertrophy, Do 3x10 while cutting

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buy

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Optimal form?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just stop eating so much fat frick

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    don't fall for the fattylifts meme, SS and Stronglifts will have you undertrained and fat

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy it and read it. If you are going to make training a part of your life (and at 330 you should) there is not a better resource for lifting than this book. Its a very, very smart book about lifting. The information (not what isn't, obv) in here is pretty close to perfect and can be life saving.

    I was 350 and read this book as I cut and lifted my way to 215 and then slowly (over a decade) built back up to 275 and muscular. Its a great book.

    What it ain't is a treatise on dieting and nutrition: find another book to learn that information.

    It is also not Arnold's Encyclopedia of Bodybuidling. After you lose all your blubber, and after you get to 1,2,3,4 for sets of five you may want to try bodybuilding. Fine. SS is not a bodybuilding guide BUT all the strenegth and muscle you build doing SS is the fastest and best way to start bodybuidling with a physique that is halfway there.

    Its a great resource. Perfect? No. But awesome. Buy it and read it cover to cover, as there is awesome information in here on programming, rest, recovery, adaptation and how to perform the lifts and why. Its a 400 level level text book without losing 101 level straight forward simplicity.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Run a bodybuilding program. If you want to get into powerlifting, sure do SS/5x5 but if you want to look better, go to the gym more than 3x per week, do better exercises for hypertrophy and train to failure (after a couple of weeks).

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But you're really small and weak and also look small??

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People who fall for this meme are worse off than people who fall for the SS meme because they still look like shit AND are also weak as hell. See you in a few years when you make a post wondering why you've been lifting for a decade but your bench 1 rep max is 185 pounds.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would start by doing one month of dieting, treadmill and stretching. Go for an hour walk 3-5 times a week on the treadmill and do five to 10 mins of stretching before and after. Then start to add SS after you've lost a bit of weight and gained a bit of flexibility. You really need to focus on good form for SS, from there you will have to keep your diet at a high protein/low fat diet to make strength gains while losing weight. You can not, and I repeat this, can not think that just because you are lifting weight it means you can eat whatever the frick you want for recovery. Ask me how I know.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    don't waste money on his book.
    just learn the basic lifts and follow the Starting Strength program for a few months until you can't add weight anymore, then move on to something like upper-lower or push-pull-legs.
    the program:
    Monday
    >Squat
    >Bench
    >Back extensions
    >Chin-ups/pull-ups (alternative if you're fat: lat pulldown machine)
    Wednesday
    >Squat
    >Overhead Press
    >Row (my suggestion)
    >Deadlift
    Friday
    >Squat
    >Bench press
    >Back extensions
    >Chin-ups/pull-ups
    barbell exercises are done for 3 sets of 5 reps, and the other exercises are done for 3 sets of as many good form reps as possible. start at a low weight and add 5 kg for squat/deadlift per week and add 2.5 kg for row/bench/overhead press per week.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's like 20 dollars. There's so much information you aren't going to get a better deal for your 20 dollars. I've started reading it after my workouts and every time I find something useful.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        information is free

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've read it (and PP) too, but there's a ton of useless and incorrect information in there too.
        There are so many better fitness info creators that deserve the money more. E.g. jonnie candito or greg nuckols, or datadrivenstrength.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >there's a ton of useless and incorrect information in there too.
          such as

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only answer is canditos linear program for strength and aesthetics. For your diet just walk 12000 a day and figure out your tdee

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    homie you can find it ONLINE FOR FREE

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    330 lbs dude you should just buy another pair of sneakers and get walking

    Diet and walking will get you to low 200s

    After that, get Paul Chek’s How to Eat Move and Be Healthy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I run at least 10 hours a week and lift and still put on weight. Eating litres of ice cream and beer on my rest days shouldn't be bulking me since I do it on my rest days.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >330lb
    SS is for skinny people

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SS all day..

    and don't listen to the dumb fricks yapping about GOMAD....GOMAD is for underweight ectomorphs who need to pack on weight as quickly as possible.

    Buy the book. You will be better off with a copy you can earmark and take notes in...

    Practical Programming is a must have too. These books are loaded with lil bits of information that will make a big difference when it comes to performing the movements correctly.

    Rip is BASED AF.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd probably just do phrak's greyskull lp instead.
    More or less same program, but instead of doing squats and deadlifts every workout, you alternate them.
    Makes you avoid getting the asymmetric big legs and has good progression regardless.
    Also if you're actually 39 than recovering from starting strength can be hard.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm in my 40s and it works quite well. You have to start doing a light middle day once your get into 300lbs...helps with recovery.

    SS is great to reap your newb gains quickly and get your numbers up.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://library.lol/main/70BA4D2906B811A15F84E0C71583959C

    You can download it from libgen.rs
    I still purchased and use the app. Yes SS is good. Do some curls and chins and you will be fine.

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