Should I inject 500mg test in my last attempt to get a gf before I kill myself?

This pic was taken a few months ago, exactly a year and a week after I started gymcelling. But in my own defense, for the first 6 months I ate like shit and skipped the gym a lot.

Would I experience major side effects from only a 500mg cycle so I can finally stop looking like a twink chud? Surely my body wouldn't stop producing testosterone from that alone? Then again I don't have much to lose and i'm desperate.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah why not

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm asking about side effects. From the limited knowledge I have, I understand that 500mg is a small dose and I would go back to normal after the cycle?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ywnbam roid chud

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't have much to lose and i'm desperate

        >I'm asking about side effects
        you're contradicting yourself. if you really had nothing to lose you'd slam that shit along with some meth and start chucking cop cars around with your bare hands for fun.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          why do you care about the consequences if you’re going to off yourself anyway

          >you're contradicting yourself. if you really had nothing to lose you'd slam that shit along with some meth and start chucking cop cars around with your bare hands for fun.
          Because if I do manage to get a gf I don't want to naturally produce as much testosterone as her.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why not?
            I don't say this often, but you need therapy. Go to a psychologist and sort yourself out. Get tour shit together before you can fuck shit up.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              your best bet is to go on HRT and become a chud if don't want to naturally produce as much testosterone as her

              I meant that I don't want to fuck up my natural test production or go bald and age myself 20 years. I want to roid as much as I can without fucking myself up in case I do get a gf and don't rope. That's why I only want to do 500mg.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                buddy your "damaged" seek help. getting a gf will change zero. I Myself was kvh until 24 got sex with few ladies and 1 wanted to be my gf i said no and now i wish i still was a virgin. but instead im a whore and nothing can change that

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            your best bet is to go on HRT and become a chud if don't want to naturally produce as much testosterone as her

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >if you really had nothing to lose you'd slam that shit along with some meth and start chucking cop cars around with your bare hands for fun
          Exactly. Sounds like op life isn't really as bad as let on
          Trust me, there's such a thing as I'm not living another day like this
          Like I said earlier, one 500mg test cycle isn't going to do shit for you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            doesn't a 500mg cycle give you a year's worth of natty progress in 3 months?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, but at the cost of making you angrier at yourself.
              Get. Professional. Help.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Checked and it doesn't matter because you still won't be satisfied
              It will still be minimal, it still takes time
              And when you come off and start losing gains and training isn't as fun and you don't feel as awesome as you did while on

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                why would I lose gains that I would have made natty anyway? Don't you only lose what you made past your natty limit?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No. You do things right when coming off and gains will go down slowly, but they will go down
                You will always lose the look of being on because you only get that look when on
                It doesn't matter anyway because the way you talk you will never do just one cycle. Many others have said one cycle only to realize what enhanced training is like

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I already had some foids tell me I have nice arms and even some weird old gays outside the gym asked me to come home with them lmao. I think a 500mg cycle would do good things for my SMV even if it doesn't make me huge.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I honestly think would do great with steroids, you've done very good natty
              I could see you blowing up/getting big but it's still going to take time. Still have to be consistent with training and get diet locked in. It will also take more compounds then test but that comes later
              But it isn't a one and done thing, there's no dipping your toe in. It's a commitment. You want to fraud then plan on doing it right/long term

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the problem is in your mind not your body

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ok but test fixes both, havn't you been listened to Rip's latest podcasts?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >heard it on a podcast

        IT MUST BE TRUE!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thread should have ended right here.

      https://i.imgur.com/nV1GPMl.png

      This pic was taken a few months ago, exactly a year and a week after I started gymcelling. But in my own defense, for the first 6 months I ate like shit and skipped the gym a lot.

      Would I experience major side effects from only a 500mg cycle so I can finally stop looking like a twink chud? Surely my body wouldn't stop producing testosterone from that alone? Then again I don't have much to lose and i'm desperate.

      You need to get the fuck off of the internet for 6 months. Seriously. Do that and keep lifting, your physique is decently above average. Don’t become a roidchud.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah what said. You have a decent physique and should do alright. just keep at it and you'll be fine. Most women don't like the overtly gym look and when ask just say you do a few push ups, pull ups and jog.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        see:

        Nobody is into twinks. Stop falling for the shit vids on tiktok where some gay asks women what body type they like.
        It's better to be a twink than to be skinnyfat like the average normie is, but it's still shit.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, just have a nice day.

    No girl deserves someone who would make this type of thread as their boyfriend and you wouldn't be happy yourself anyway.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kys bitches deserve every bad in the world, and they orgasm while getting stabbed and beheaded.

      yeah why not

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >most mentally stable roidhead

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ok champ have fun getting a gf then, I'm sure your body is the only problem

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Idk there are equally shitty and much worse women

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No girl deserves someone who would make this type of thread as their boyfriend
      what kind of woman deserves anything more?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you look cute anon can i suck you off? :3 (i'm a guy)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      guy (female)?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        guy (male (balding)) uwu

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your body is fine. If you're not attracting women, it's because you need to work on your personality and charm

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why would you have a nice day? you mog most men

      your pec insertions arent great, but everything is lookin good.

      I look like a somewhat active twink. I want to look like I can crush normie skulls with one hand.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        then roid if you want to look like a mass monster

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I thought you wanted to get a girlfriend.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't have charm if I don't feel confident and I won't feel confident if I look like what I do now. I need roid rage. I'm insecure, high inhib, I stutter, afraid to make eye contact etc. All low T traits.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why would you have a nice day? you mog most men

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    your pec insertions arent great, but everything is lookin good.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you truly have nothing to lose and it's what you want then sure
    Test won't cure the problems you described, but it's a tool that can help you get over that shit. You have to fix those problems
    Test isn't magic and you aren't going to turn into the beast you want on one cycle. It takes time and continuous training and diet
    Be prepared to be on for life - not because of natural test levels bottoming out but because it's better
    Know that you have severe body dysmorphia and it won't go away - welcome to being forever small

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would date you but you know that just have a girlfriend won't make you happy. You'll just be dependent on me to validate your worth and that's a heavy fucking burden. Get yourself sorted before you hurt yourself or someone else

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are you sperking about you look good

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol. I'm on TRT rn at 860 instead of low 400s. While I love lifting even more now, everything else in day to day life just makes me want to kms even more. That or go full NEET and never wagecuck again. Fuck, I could be a janitor and as long as they paid me a livable wage I'd be happy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is that the case?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry bro but if this is what you got after a year of weightlifting then I'm sad to say that you've reached your so-called "natty limit" - i.e. the maximum amount of muscle your body can naturally support. I recommend blasting and cruising for the rest of your life (if the terms are unfamiliar you will understand soon enough by spending some time in our community, and my I say welcome).

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >In my own defense
    You are anticipating an attack.

    Roids won't help you get a GF.

    You look fine as you are, not even kidding.
    Ripped? No. Huge? No. Toned? Yes. Defined? Yes. That's what most women care about.

    It doesn't matter how hot you look (frame, body, face, etc) if you are an insecure turbo autist with 0 conversation and 0 sense of humor.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I thought you wanted to get a girlfriend.

      My main problem is being insecure as fuck. I can't even make eye contact with women. I need to feel above normies and foids and get the roid rage confidence boost. I already feel better about myself since I started lifting. I want to speed up the progress without fucking up my natural test production or going bald.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >My main problem is being insecure as fuck. I can't even make eye contact with women
        did you grow up with an active father ?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Abusive mother and beta father, so basically with a single mother but worse.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Abusive mother and beta father, so basically with a single mother but worse.

          *step-father

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You know the root problem. Tackle that, not the symptoms. Deal with your own past before altering your future (roid side effects). Get out of your house. But first get out of your own head.
        Seriously, insecure people mistake arrogance with confidence. Grow as a person, then grow as a body. The opposite can't happen.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        why do you care about the consequences if you’re going to off yourself anyway

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You need some kind of chemical courage.
        So either a little bit of alcohol or drugs.
        Quick googling drugs for confidence found: MDMA, amphetamines, opiates and even xanax
        you can also try https://rehabs.com/pro-talk/how-to-build-self-confidence/

        Femanon here, you are pathetic

        you know the rules
        tits or gtfo

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tried alcohol, tried weed, tried phenibut. Definitely makes me better, but still i'm an anxious wreck. Was thinking of trying cocaine or meth but i'm not cool enough to know anyone that deals.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What is darknet for?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know if i'd feel good ordering shit from there. Would prefer local dealers. But yeah, you're right.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your body is perfect if you're after girls. You have to ask them out or just get on an online dating app, but you kinda suck at taking pictures...

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >but you kinda suck at taking pictures...
          Yeah, that's why my Tinder is shit too lol. First time I tried I uploaded a selfie with a shit phone and got 30 something likes in the first day before deleting it. I think it's an alright result for a guy.

          Second time I uploaded what I thought was a better selfie with a better phone along with a few (bad) pics of me doing stuff outside but I got 24 likes in 24 hours, matched with 2 girls and they were shit so I deleted it out of shame.
          I don't have anyone to take pictures of me.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Would have to spend another 2 years in the gym before I can upload shirtless selfies without cringing.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >My main problem is being insecure as fuck.
        yup
        >I can't even make eye contact with women.
        that needs fixin'
        >I need to feel above normies
        npdcuck mentality
        >and foids
        you're a man, you're already there if you stop the garden gnome of gender from psyopping your mind, but for that you'll need to undo some of

        Abusive mother and beta father, so basically with a single mother but worse.

        the cuck/abusive upbringing

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get off the abs and start working your chest harder you idiot. Your pecks are undersized for your body because you’re neglecting to max out your presses.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I only do 2 ab exercises every few days. I train my chest the hardest unironically but until like a month ago I didn't engage it at all. I was benching solely with my arms.
      I only bench 25kg dumbbells for 2 sets and 22.5 for another 2 sets.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I only bench 25kg dumbbells for 2 sets and 22.5 for another 2 sets.
        anon….

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          is that very bad?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was benching more than that my first time in a gym as a 16 year old kid. It’s weak as fuck.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I see really big guys benching like 35kg for reps

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                35kg dumbbells*

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                My guy, you’re trying to put mass into your chest. You need to be maxing out your bench, not going for reps.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Especially without knowing your height, starting weight and current weight I don't, but it doesn't matter (I don't want to know either)
    Just know you've done damn good. You've put on significant mass and definitely aren't as soft as you were
    You need some self confidence brother. Girls do not hand out compliments! When you get them from girls you're good. You are obviously not ugly nor creepy because girls would never compliment someone that is
    Everything is practice. Talk to them more
    Also fake it till you make it works damn good

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That actually means a lot. Thanks, man. I'm 6'0, 77kg, was 72kg back then.
      I really am creepy though. Initially some foids are interested in me but because i'm an awkward, stuttering autist, they all lose interest. Any girl that has ever approached me has.
      In highschool one girl that I never talked to before asked me out and about a week of autistic interactions later, she would run away from me and tell people i'm a stalker. All because I was terrified of her.
      I'm 21 now and the only reason i'm not a virgin is because I fucked a prostitute.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Here's the thing anon, social skills are just that--a skill. You have to read up on it, watch some youtube videos, and practice practice practice. Admitting your social skills suck is the first step to fixing them. Read these books then get back to us:

        - How to win friends and influence people, Dale Carnegie
        - No More Mr Nice Guy, Robert Glover
        - Barking up the wrong tree, Eric Barker
        - The Rational Male, Rollo Tomassi

        I started my early 20's almost exactly like you, socially awkward, zero female attention, and a borderline autistic personality. Part of the problem was that i grew up thinking that intelligence, academics, and logic were everything. Accordingly, i neglected my social skills and never developed much "emotional intelligence" (i hate that term, but I've come to realize that most women especially, tend to think with emotion not with logic so its relevant). Now here's the thing at the time...I SHOULD have been attractive in the eyes of women by virtue of being 6'2", in good shape, traditionally attractive face, educated, solid career etc. yet i was getting beaten out fat ass frat boys in the sex department. What i came to realize is that your social skills and personality matter more than all of that, so for the past 10 years that's what i worked on and I'm still working on it, just like I'm working on my fitness. Fast forward to today and I've slept with over 20 women and have a wife and children. I'm not saying its easy, but i am saying its possible.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, great post
          Love it
          [...]
          You're not creepy, girls pick that up immediately and avoid at all costs
          They are losing interest because you are boring/aren't interesting to them/awkward. That can be fixed
          Don't let some girl's reaction get to you - ever. Girls are extremely fucked up with anxiety and all their other female bullshit. Ignore it and brush it off. It turns them on as well
          Whatever bullshit happened it was her fault for whatever fucked up reason going through her head that day
          When girls are asking you out, let alone complimenting you, you are obviously attractive
          Like bro said above, just start fucking blasting

          I appreciate the advice anon and i'll check those books out but in terms of social skills i'm a lost cause. Too much bad shit in childhood and teenage years added up. Without being diagnosed I have worse social skills than diagnosed autists. I stutter even when talking to men. I also jumble words and sound like I can't speak English properly.
          Sure, I am boring but if I wasn't socially retarded I would've been able to at least get a few hookups by now.

          No, but you should send me all your money first.

          Only got like 5k in my bank, i'm a college student.

          Any amount of exogenous test is going to shut down production retard.

          Lose the weight fatty, then fix your mentality and find some hobbies, then warm approach girls at work school etc

          I'm fatter now lol, i'm bulking.
          And I can't warm approach because I don't know any women. Never even had a female friend.

          Why would a girl want to be your gf if you hate yourself so much
          Let's say some girl decides to be your gf, then what? How are you gonna take charge when you're suicidal?

          why not?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why'd you want a girlfiend so bad it sounds like you'd hate it

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't worry about fitting in - or the illusion of fitting in
                Worry about fixing yourself and it will work itself out - then you'll fit in with people you enjoy/want to be around

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're already at low body fat you depressed fuck. Your chest looks like your allergic to the bench press. take your fuckin cycle, get ripped, fuck as many women as you can and turn your god damn life around.

    God speed anon! Suicide is not the answer

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, great post
      Love it

      That actually means a lot. Thanks, man. I'm 6'0, 77kg, was 72kg back then.
      I really am creepy though. Initially some foids are interested in me but because i'm an awkward, stuttering autist, they all lose interest. Any girl that has ever approached me has.
      In highschool one girl that I never talked to before asked me out and about a week of autistic interactions later, she would run away from me and tell people i'm a stalker. All because I was terrified of her.
      I'm 21 now and the only reason i'm not a virgin is because I fucked a prostitute.

      You're not creepy, girls pick that up immediately and avoid at all costs
      They are losing interest because you are boring/aren't interesting to them/awkward. That can be fixed
      Don't let some girl's reaction get to you - ever. Girls are extremely fucked up with anxiety and all their other female bullshit. Ignore it and brush it off. It turns them on as well
      Whatever bullshit happened it was her fault for whatever fucked up reason going through her head that day
      When girls are asking you out, let alone complimenting you, you are obviously attractive
      Like bro said above, just start fucking blasting

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Your chest looks like your allergic to the bench press
      Top kek, where is the upboat button

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      brappa

      https://i.imgur.com/0L9WPvH.jpg

      Here's the thing anon, social skills are just that--a skill. You have to read up on it, watch some youtube videos, and practice practice practice. Admitting your social skills suck is the first step to fixing them. Read these books then get back to us:

      - How to win friends and influence people, Dale Carnegie
      - No More Mr Nice Guy, Robert Glover
      - Barking up the wrong tree, Eric Barker
      - The Rational Male, Rollo Tomassi

      I started my early 20's almost exactly like you, socially awkward, zero female attention, and a borderline autistic personality. Part of the problem was that i grew up thinking that intelligence, academics, and logic were everything. Accordingly, i neglected my social skills and never developed much "emotional intelligence" (i hate that term, but I've come to realize that most women especially, tend to think with emotion not with logic so its relevant). Now here's the thing at the time...I SHOULD have been attractive in the eyes of women by virtue of being 6'2", in good shape, traditionally attractive face, educated, solid career etc. yet i was getting beaten out fat ass frat boys in the sex department. What i came to realize is that your social skills and personality matter more than all of that, so for the past 10 years that's what i worked on and I'm still working on it, just like I'm working on my fitness. Fast forward to today and I've slept with over 20 women and have a wife and children. I'm not saying its easy, but i am saying its possible.

      good pic good post

      https://i.imgur.com/p6jgrZc.jpg

      Should I inject 500mg estrogen in my last attempt to get a bf before I kill myself?
      This pic was taken a few months ago, exactly a year and a week after I started slutposting. But in my own defense, for the first 6 months I ate nothing and skipped the gym a lot.

      Would I experience major side effects from only a 500mg cycle so I can finally stop looking like a twink chud? Surely my body wouldn't stop producing testosterone from that alone? Then again I don't have much to lose and i'm desperate.

      post butt in lingerie

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to the gym now. Will reply to any new replies when I get back.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah not necessary. Ive built up to 100kg at 6’ with relatively low doses. Take 350mg Test + 200mg Primo for 16 weeks. Daily injections for minimum sides. Eat a shit ton of food.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do that and add a cumulative 200mg tren-A weekly to see what happens

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also throw away your most precious physical belonging as a sacrifice and smoke some DMT and see how it goes

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should I inject 500mg estrogen in my last attempt to get a bf before I kill myself?
    This pic was taken a few months ago, exactly a year and a week after I started slutposting. But in my own defense, for the first 6 months I ate nothing and skipped the gym a lot.

    Would I experience major side effects from only a 500mg cycle so I can finally stop looking like a twink chud? Surely my body wouldn't stop producing testosterone from that alone? Then again I don't have much to lose and i'm desperate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll be your bf if you send me pics like this whenever I ask for them anon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        very cringe, go touch grass

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll be your bf if you send me pics like this whenever I ask for them anon

      Fuck off with the gayry
      Take it to your board

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        im trying to take it to dms anon not a different board

        https://i.imgur.com/2Ak1g50.jpg

        very cringe, go touch grass

        im trying to fuck twinks, its the most high test activity a man can engage in

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >im trying to fuck twinks, its the most high test activity a man can engage in
          He's not going to fuck you anon

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He's not going to fuck you anon
            I will fuck him tranime poster

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              oh no, he's too far gone, his inceldom has gotten to him

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I will fuck you too

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, but you should send me all your money first.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is all you need to attract women, its a healthy fit natty body. if you start roiding prepare for hairloss, acne, bloated face and organ damage in the long term. when you quit roids you will have depression for months and will lose most of your roid gains while gaining fat because of testosterone supression, you will have 0 testosterone for months and it could take years for your endocrine system to be back to completely normal pre roid status.

    t. ex roider who regrets it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      did you use hcg during the cycle? did u pct?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes, i did a perfect pct, it basically only helped so much that i not killed myself. i even quit my job for 3 months i was so depressed, i could do 2-3x workouts a week with high dose of stimulants and even so i lost nearly all roid gains and put on some fat.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      but that's why I only want to do 500mg. Would I really experience all that from a small cycle?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        doesn't matter what dose, if you shoot any kind of steroids your testosterone production will shut down. if you are lucky your natural t is pretty high and from one cycle you will be only at the really bottom instead of 0, but still its pointless, because you will lose nearly all roid gains.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any amount of exogenous test is going to shut down production retard.

    Lose the weight fatty, then fix your mentality and find some hobbies, then warm approach girls at work school etc

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would a girl want to be your gf if you hate yourself so much
    Let's say some girl decides to be your gf, then what? How are you gonna take charge when you're suicidal?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      he's no longer gonna be suicidal because he will have that which he lacks for happiness thus it will kickstart him fixing other aspects of his life

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >novice with muscles starting to show up
    >wants to inject test

    kek, what a weak minded gay

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are NOT going to get the effects that you think you will from a single 500mg test cycle... and based on the other questions you're asking you need to do a ton more research. Don't abuse your endocrine system without knowing what damage you may do and how to mitigate it. Asking IST for ANY advice is for retards, asking IST for medical advice is for double super retards. Don't be that guy.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >trained natty for 6 months
    >reeeee why no greek god statue physice
    youre an impatient retard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Time is valuable, why not use cheat codes if you can?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        cheat code into killing your natural test production, go for it dude

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Femanon here, you are pathetic

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      femanon (xy)?

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I took 500mg of test for a year with no side effects. Admittedly I shave my head so I can't speak to what may have happened to my hair. A year in I added 300 masteron a week to the test and I was so horny I had a gf in a month. It definitely can work. Any anxiety can be defeated by repeated exposure, and high test gives enough confidence to take the first steps.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you are lifting to get a GF just cut you gay, you should have enough muscle to /ottermode/

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol that was me on a cut, i'm fatter now. Will post more pics tomorrow during the day.
      I don't want ottermode. Unless you're like Zyzz, you'll just look DYEL in a shirt. I've reached a point where my arms look big-ish in a tight enough t-shirt and I want to keep it that way.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody here roids, except me. Let me tell you that 500mg of test will just make you retain water and gain fat, your appetite will also skyrocket which is a bad thing

    if you are gonna roid, you need tren and anavar

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. You should lift and eat. When you get bigger consider test. You need to know how to make quality gains first to get the most out of a cycle. Otherwise you're just risking side effects for natty gains

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't current young men have the testosterone levels of 80 year old men 100 years ago? Wouldn't injecting 500mg still be considered normal T levels?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Around 200mg a week would be around high normal
        500mg is a blast
        250mg is a nice enhanced trt

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So I would get no side effects from 250mg?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            thats 5x normal T levels, you certainly would

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They can still come
            Always be prepared for them. You will not know until you are on
            Some people have estrogen problems at 250mg while others have no problem at 500mg
            250mg should be a good balance of no or minimal sides
            Don't expect to go on steroids and expect no sides
            You would be messing with hormones, doesn't matter what dose there is potential for sides

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Gains will be nowhere as good as 500mg though

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Probably elevated e2 and maybe blood pressure. Maybe faster hair loss if you're prone. And testicle shrinkage. That's a definitive to happen.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No and no. The reason average test levels are lower now is because obesity is rampant and obesity lowers test levels.

        The average man at peak produces 7mg of testosterone a week. Trt to get you in the high range caps at 200mg/week. 500mg puts most men at 2000-5000ng/dl which is 2-5x the standard range. It also tends to elevate estrogen which is why gyno occurs.

        500mg is baby's first blast. If you choose to run that, keep antiestrogens on hand, you will likely need them. 500mg test bumps my e2 to about 70pg/ml which is well beyond male range. And bumps my test to 3500ng/dl at a trough reading. Likely 5000 or more at peak

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >stuttering
    Could look into Toastmasters
    Don't know exactly what they do, from what I gather you give speeches to get better at public speaking
    It would be a supportive environment

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How tall are you?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      6’0

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why would you have a nice day over not getting a girl?
    why would you think lifting will get you a girl?
    why are you contemplating using drugs to lift even more?

    How about, gay, instead of doing elaborate shit to get a girl, you try, befriending women and then asking them on dates or asking the women you know to introduce you to their single friends.

    Fucking retarded zoomer.

    But to answer your question. Yes 500 will absolutely shut down all natural test production. End of the world? no.

    All you need to know about steroids is on the leddit wiki.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How about, gay, instead of doing elaborate shit to get a girl, you try, befriending women and then asking them on dates or asking the women you know to introduce you to their single friends.

      I don't know any women. I never even had a female in my social circle. I won't be able to talk to women without confidence and I won't have confidence if i'm not big. I'm 21 and not getting any younger. I kissed one girl in my life which is the sexual experience of a "cool" 10 year old.

      You need to practice some OUTCOME INDEPENDENCE dude

      You're too hung up on results and you aren't enjoying the journey whatsoever. It's important to feel satisfaction when you complete tasks and achieve goals but you need to derive even more satisfaction from grinding away at tasks and projects. Most of your life will be spent slowly grinding away at the same things, day after day, endless toil. If you're obsessed with results you'll always take the easiest and quickest way with everything you do: Want muscles? Blast test and steroids. Want GF? Find easiest slut at bar. Want dopamine? Porn, drugs, and yummy food

      Don't go down that road

      I'd be happy to fuck sluts at a bar, actually even happier than getting a gf since i'm sure after the sex I wouldn't want to even talk to her until i'm horny again. But i'm a sperglord at bars just like anywhere else.

      If I started roiding I would still train hard, probably harder than I am now so it's not really looking for the easy way out.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't know any women. I never even had a female in my social circle.
        Here's your problem.
        You don't know what you're up against. Women are not at all like men and you won't sperg your way into understanding them without a lot if experience and/or guidance. Where to begin... Try reading David Deida's books. Here's a YouTube clip I didn't screen at all, but it may give you an idea if what he talks about: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LpMWPSA8O7I

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need to practice some OUTCOME INDEPENDENCE dude

    You're too hung up on results and you aren't enjoying the journey whatsoever. It's important to feel satisfaction when you complete tasks and achieve goals but you need to derive even more satisfaction from grinding away at tasks and projects. Most of your life will be spent slowly grinding away at the same things, day after day, endless toil. If you're obsessed with results you'll always take the easiest and quickest way with everything you do: Want muscles? Blast test and steroids. Want GF? Find easiest slut at bar. Want dopamine? Porn, drugs, and yummy food

    Don't go down that road

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    forget test. take estradiol and get a bf

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1,000mg test per week, 150mg tren acetate per week - or it’s just a waste of money.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m going to ignore the possibility that you’re exaggerating.

    You’re well past the point that women actually want in terms of physique. Maybe work down to better abs for a bit, but I promise it ain’t your gains holding you back

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do people fall for the twink meme cope?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because it's true. If you ever spoke to women you'd know they mostly prefer a Tom Holland, not a Tom Hardy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why do most incels take what 12 year old girls on TikTok say so seriously? What happened to "ignore what women say, watch what they do"? The biggest slayers IRL are masculine jocks, not fags like Tom Holland who are invisible.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nbhh

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    taking roids is fucking retarded and roiders are mentally ill. so yes, you should do roids.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you want a gf anyway? Instead of wasting everyone's time, just come out of the closet and get some therapy.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know a guy who did 300mg a week and you couldn't even tell he lifted by looking at him

    Because for him roids were a substitute for actually training hard and eating properly. OP will still be a twink on roids because he's too lazy to work.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >OP will still be a twink on roids because he's too lazy to work.
      I train hard lol.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Twink
    I'm sure a lot of girls, especially on asian countries are into twinks. The same reason twink kpop idols are very popular

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I live in west Europe.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody is into twinks. Stop falling for the shit vids on tiktok where some gay asks women what body type they like.
      It's better to be a twink than to be skinnyfat like the average normie is, but it's still shit.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just be gay like all the other dudes who don’t get laid…

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      no

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    500 too much when I went to trt doc I had 120mg /week and it brought my overall levels to 1200 with 270 free test.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    your physique is already better than i would say 90-95% of the male population

    If you still cant attract females your body isnt the problem you fucking retard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But if my body was better than 99% of the population then my SMV would be much higher than it is now.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        once again your body isnt the problem

        post your face and i will give actual advice, even if you dont

        Skincare (buy retin a online)
        Teeth whitening
        Mewing
        Good haircut
        clean up your eyebrows
        Shave

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s good enough for me to get approached at bars and clubs and sometimes street approaches from usually teen girls. I look like a skinny bitch though so that’s what I feel like and as a result i’m scared to even make eye contact with women. They terrify me. I stutter when talking to men, when I talk to women I forget how to speak completely.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            treat social anxiety like in the gym

            Start out with something easy, like today i will talk to 3 random guys

            Next week after that talk to 5 random guys and 1 girl

            Its the only way to get over it my dude im working on it myself still but you would be fucking surprised how easy it is once you have even the tiniest bit of charisma especially if you are already above average looking and have a good physique

            Put yourself in situations that are going to be uncomfortable because thats the only way you are going to improve

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I’m 21. I tried shit over the years. It didn’t work. I’m destined to be a loser. Not a sob story, just how it is, doesn’t stop me from trying to make something out of myself.
              But even when I was 5 and first started school I was already a social outcast.

              See:

              That actually means a lot. Thanks, man. I'm 6'0, 77kg, was 72kg back then.
              I really am creepy though. Initially some foids are interested in me but because i'm an awkward, stuttering autist, they all lose interest. Any girl that has ever approached me has.
              In highschool one girl that I never talked to before asked me out and about a week of autistic interactions later, she would run away from me and tell people i'm a stalker. All because I was terrified of her.
              I'm 21 now and the only reason i'm not a virgin is because I fucked a prostitute.

              You can’t get laid because you’re a terminally online autist.

              I go to college and I go out with my college acquaintances ever week or two. I’m the most social now than i’ve ever been.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                stop this fucking victim kunt mindset shit you pussy jesus christ

                If you think you are destined to be a fucking loser than you are

                Take accountability and fix the shit that is keeping you in the situation you are in right now

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There is nothing to fix. At best i’ll be able to hook up with a bar slut eventually which is what i’m hoping for. Roids would speed up that process since they make you low inhib, confident and horny. It would cure some of the autism at least.

                ull get a gf bro, go outside and socialize more

                I’m 21. If it was going to happen, it already would have. When i’m done college at 24, i’ll live a fully loner lifestyle in a small apartment/ camper van. That is my dream. Work, gym, lonely walks, television.
                So I only have 3 years left really.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                assuming you get absolutely zero side affects from roids which good luck
                >acne
                >aging faster
                >hairloss
                >gyno

                You will at best make 10-15% more gains

                This isnt even going into the health risks im just talking about shit that without a doubt will make you fucking uglier and less attractive to any female, so if you want to ignore the actual good advice i and other people are giving you and become a fucking roid chud instead of fixing the actual issue be my guest bro

                Ill see you back here in 6 months when you make the same exact thread while natties are mogging you into the grave and fucking whoever they want because they know how to socialize

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                stop being retarded, talk to friends, if u dont have any, start there, get friends, go where the ppl are, go to parties, dont wait for someone to approach you, approach them, everyone is lonely, everyone is happy about some nice company

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you want my honest to god advice stay the fuck away from incel forums and better yet stay off the internet for a good while. Shit’s rotting your brain. Those communities are training your brain to view women as objects and yourself as a prededermined failure making yourself unable to relate to the world in a normal manner. That’s likely the cause of your misfortune with women. Spend more time with your family and friends, work on yourself, you WILL make it if you put in the effort and change your mindset.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been on incel forums since 2018 and I quit recently, don't know if for good. I don't think any of it ever got to my head since I don't agree with their blackpill. I spent most of my time there arguing with them. I've come to my own realization that women hate men that are different in any way. Shy, awkward, boring etc. Which is what I am.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >> women hate men that are different in any way. Shy, awkward, boring etc.

                Holy fuck you are too fare gone if you actually believe this

                girls hate ugly guys literally nothing else fucking matters

                If you actually look good you can do whatever the fuck you want and have whatever fucking hobbies you want and it does not fucking matter

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >girls hate ugly guys literally nothing else fucking matters
                That's what I heard on incel forums all the time. Yet when I go outside I see subhumans - ugly, manlets, fat etc with average and good looking girls.

                As for me, I had foids that asked me out out of nowhere without ever speaking to me before and a few autistic interactions later, they would tell me to fuck off when I tried talking to them. Not saying i'm beautiful or anything, but if they asked me out without speaking to me, it was obviously because they liked the way I looked.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So you hopped on incel forums when you were literally 15/16 years old? Obviously a lot of their poison has seeped into your subconcious and formed the way you view people and yourself judging by your post. Plenty of women like shy awkward men, it’s probably just the incel mindset insecurity they dislike.
                We truly live in a society.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was 17, but i've been shitposting on IST since I was like 14.
                I was already an incel then, it didn't do anything. Sure, only the cool kids were fucking at 14, but everyone was making out with everyone. I missed out on that. Now i'm 21 and i've only ever made out with one thot at a club. Incel forums aren't to blame for that disaster.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                In any case anon, as a previous anon pointed out the problem isn’t how you look but how you think. And I seriously doubt you getting bigger will drastically help you in that regard. Don’t roidchud, it will fuck you up and is not worth it. You’re only 21 and have everything to lose contrary to your original post. Try to purge that incel shit from your mind and find well-adjusted, normal and good friends, immerse yourself in that.
                WAGMI and don’t make another gay thread like this.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have a group that I basically forced myself into in college. They don't like me but I think they feel sorry enough for me to keep me around. I go out with them to bars sometimes. I'm autistic as fuck even when drunk and I have no hope talking to women when i'm not drunk.
                My plan is to keep going until a miracle happens.
                But even then it will be a once off thing. I don't think there's much I can do without getting a roid rage confidence boost.

                >I've come to my own realization that women hate men that are different in any way. Shy, awkward, boring etc. Which is what I am.
                not hate, but that does put you in their "watch out for that one" category, which is useful since in caveman times you'd be the one autismo enough to ignore the creepshaming and rape them (without being chad enough that they'd want you to rape them)
                nice thing is for many (if not most) of the awkwardcels out there, it's more nurture than nature fucking you over, so you can normie up enough for your purposes with some effort
                t. dun it mostly

                Not to sound like a self-fellating gay, but like I said above, i've had women I never talked to before ask me out, approach me and start the conversation complimenting my looks etc and that was when I was borderline chubby. And my autism was strong enough that I didn't get anything from those situations.
                For some reason I rarely get approached anymore though.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This post right here tells me you're attractive enough. You probably were less insecure back then or at least hating yourself less. I don't recommend this often, but I think you should take some mushrooms and spend the night in the nearest forest in order to get some perspective before you do something retarded. You are entering some great life years if can manage to not fuck them up.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I've come to my own realization that women hate men that are different in any way. Shy, awkward, boring etc. Which is what I am.
                not hate, but that does put you in their "watch out for that one" category, which is useful since in caveman times you'd be the one autismo enough to ignore the creepshaming and rape them (without being chad enough that they'd want you to rape them)
                nice thing is for many (if not most) of the awkwardcels out there, it's more nurture than nature fucking you over, so you can normie up enough for your purposes with some effort
                t. dun it mostly

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Shit’s rotting your brain. Those communities are training your brain to view women as objects

                I'm not OP, but does porn do this to a large extent too? I'm conflicted on NoFap because lots of people say its just a meme.

                t. Pathological coomer

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but it depends, and probably not nearly as much. Shit like Facial Abuse is bound to make you into a jaded, cynical degenerate eventually. It won’t just impact your view on women but on mankind in general. It’s hard to have perspective and understand that reality isn’t such when you constantly watch degrading porn and read blackpill shit on IST and elsewhere. Real life isn’t tiktok or twitter yet many anons seem to think it is.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Facial abuse is real life if you're the right man. Women are your personal pleasure devices if you're high value enough.
                It's cringe to say porn isn't real life. Which aspect of it, exactly?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Every woman isn’t a nihilistic whore willing to dehumanize herself on camera like blackpill addict shitposter doomers on IST seem to think.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe not on camera, otherwise yeah. Women are whores. This isn't just an edgy IST take, it's basically common sense.

              • 2 months ago
                sage

                Every woman isn’t a nihilistic whore willing to dehumanize herself on camera like blackpill addict shitposter doomers on IST seem to think.

                A woman is whatever you want her to be, as well as whatever you think of yourself. She's a mirror. So what's the highest aspect of yourself you can project? You think of yourself as deserving nothing more than a worthless whore?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You think of yourself as deserving nothing more than a worthless whore?
                Don't need more than that. I just want free sex. Don't want to get married or be in an actual LTR ever ie when people settle down, get married, have kids

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can’t get laid because you’re a terminally online autist.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ull get a gf bro, go outside and socialize more

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You actually gained some definition. I gymcelled for a year and I didn't even miss gym a lot until the last three months, and gained absolutely 0 muscle. Just go outside and get a girlfriend.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh for fuks sake just go south of the border dude.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which border? I'm in the UK.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    try weighted dips and dumbbell bench and you might actually develop a chest.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I only started benching properly like a month ago. Before that I would only engage my arms. Now I squeeze my chest. Idk if i'm built weird but before that I wasn't making any progress. It was completely flat.

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hate to break it to you op, but you have enough muscle to get laid. The problem is most likely whatever is going on in your head. Start there. Suicide is for pussies.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But if i'm lacking other things, then adding more muscle would even things out a bit, no?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. You're trying to make your problems what you want them to be as an excuse to roid. Roid if you want, but it won't help you and you'll likely regret it once your prefrontal cortex finishes developing.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    u look ok, the reason ur have no gf is cause girls dont like mentally ill dudes

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just do it, hell go start a business on something you like too and take out debt for the cost. You got nothing to lose

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop going on incel websites you talk so retarded. Throw your phone and PC out the window.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    don't fuck your body up man. become happy as a lonely hermit

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