Shoulder Pain

I've had shoulder pain since August last year.
I've had massage, physio, ice baths, acupuncture, rested for weeks, taken 6 weeks of ostarine, cut dairy, gluten and alcohol to reduce inflammation and this pain will not FRICK OFF.
Every time it starts to feel better I try gym again, bench press or anything over head seems to hit it the worst.
I'm dying without being able to do weights.
How do I fix this shit?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    ct scan, ultrasound and mri. without those you are rowing upstream. that is all i can tell you over the internet

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I really fricking hate doctors.
      I'm willing to get a scan - if they find something that won't heal by itself, what are the next steps? Does it have to be surgery?
      Have I fricked myself by waiting this long already?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        i hate doctors as well but if its not getting better you have to do something. shoulders are a bit fricky so surgery may be a possibility but it could also be something that only requires maybe say a few corticosteroid shots or a round of prolotherapy. if youve been doing physio since that time you probably wont have to worry about having left it alone for too long but sooner is always better. go get it checked out asap. and remember to always get a second, and if possible, third and fourth opinion

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ok thanks.. appreciate the encouragement.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shoulders are just a really bad place to get an injury.
    I got one from to rapid bench press progression. Went to a athletics physio and got a program which I followed religiously. Scaled way back on the weights and build up very slowly. I am back to where I was pre injury. For me it took about one year though.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Loads of things it could be.

      Adhesive capsulitis (unlikely unless you're a middle aged woman), rotator cuff tear/strain, impingement, osteoarthritis.. if things continue to be shitty despite isolated strengthening work I would consider a labral tear although you would need a scan to diagnose that.

      I'd say it's probably impingement given the type of people that visit here.

      Impingement can be as a result of excessive downward rotation of the scapula. Often remedied by working strengthening serratus anterior, long head of biceps, trapezius and general rotator cuff strengthening.

      Don't trust any con artists that will correct it with manual therpies

      What movements make the pain worse?

      Issue probably caused by poor form, less stretching, limited range of motion and rapid progression of weights. If you don't want to go to the doctor, you should stop lifting. Lose your gains and start over. Consult a physical therapist about range of motion, research proper form of exercises, do calisthenics and stretching for the first 6 months. Stick to basic movements, no meme variations. Get used to the routine. Add weights progressively (meaning increase weight every 12 months). Your body needs time to get used to the weight. You are not in a race. You are in a marathon.

      It's definitely from upping bench press weight too quick, I was also doing max weight reps a few times a week
      My pull muscles seem weak in comparison and my posture is poor.
      I'm taking two months off gym membership to get it sorted. When I return I'll ask a PT or someone to go over my form.

      not kidding, aspirin and cold pressed unrefined black seed oil

      I take black seed oil already - how does it help this though?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        idk about black seed oil but vinegar supposedly helps with joint pain. but you need to actually identify what the problem is and fix it, all the black seed oil and vinegar cant help you

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Loads of things it could be.

    Adhesive capsulitis (unlikely unless you're a middle aged woman), rotator cuff tear/strain, impingement, osteoarthritis.. if things continue to be shitty despite isolated strengthening work I would consider a labral tear although you would need a scan to diagnose that.

    I'd say it's probably impingement given the type of people that visit here.

    Impingement can be as a result of excessive downward rotation of the scapula. Often remedied by working strengthening serratus anterior, long head of biceps, trapezius and general rotator cuff strengthening.

    Don't trust any con artists that will correct it with manual therpies

    What movements make the pain worse?

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    not kidding, aspirin and cold pressed unrefined black seed oil

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Issue probably caused by poor form, less stretching, limited range of motion and rapid progression of weights. If you don't want to go to the doctor, you should stop lifting. Lose your gains and start over. Consult a physical therapist about range of motion, research proper form of exercises, do calisthenics and stretching for the first 6 months. Stick to basic movements, no meme variations. Get used to the routine. Add weights progressively (meaning increase weight every 12 months). Your body needs time to get used to the weight. You are not in a race. You are in a marathon.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do I fix this shit?
    That's the neat part - you don't.
    Your best bet is bpc157 injections or stem cells.
    If those don't work, you have to live with it.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do dead hangs

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need to do dead hangs its the only way to fix shoulder pain. I'm not memeing you, an orthopedic surgeon wrote an entire book on fixing shoulder pain via dead hangs. The bone will remodels when you do dead hangs, just do them to failure everyday even on your rest days. I noticed improvements in my shoulder instantly

      The book is called "Shoulder Pain? The Solution & Prevention, Revised & Expanded" by John M. Kirsch M.D..

      You don't need to read the book, just wanted to tell you im not bsing you. The surgeon apparently did 25 years of research into this shit.

      Is there any technique I should be following on this or just hang? Shoulder blade retracted? Shrugged?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        you just hang with fully stretched arms, do NOT resract the scapula. You want to literally just hang from the bar. If your feeling pain, start slow with your feet on the ground (bend your knees if your too tall), and arms fully stretched. If the bar is too high and you feel pain, just put a chair or anything underneath you so your not holding your full weight. The important thing is that your arms should be fully stretched. Keep progressing until you can fully hang without pain.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need to do dead hangs its the only way to fix shoulder pain. I'm not memeing you, an orthopedic surgeon wrote an entire book on fixing shoulder pain via dead hangs. The bone will remodels when you do dead hangs, just do them to failure everyday even on your rest days. I noticed improvements in my shoulder instantly

    The book is called "Shoulder Pain? The Solution & Prevention, Revised & Expanded" by John M. Kirsch M.D..

    You don't need to read the book, just wanted to tell you im not bsing you. The surgeon apparently did 25 years of research into this shit.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you have problem with overhead exercises, SLAP tear is a very probable cause.

    There is the following test to check if it is a slap tear.

    Try to reach with the affected hand behind your back. If your reach causes you pain and your reach is less than the non affected hand, then welcome to the club. Prepare for long-time recovery.

    I did two PRPs and 10 physio therapies with magnet vacuum. I did ok but a year after and have not made a great progress returning to my previous condition. I admit I was a little anxious though.

    The program I followed for some time after the physios, with a TRX Blue band, is the following:

    3 times every day, 3 cycles of 10 reps, :

    - internal rotation
    - back reach(holding the rubber band)
    - external rotation
    - serratus punch
    - wall push up
    - sleeper's stretch

    After you feel confident about your shoulder, replace wall push ups with regular push ups.

    From then on, move to weight training but slowly.

    I cannot tell you this part cause I am figuring it out my self.

    Also, because it is a tendon issue, extreme reps(like 50~100) might be more appropriate, but this needs testing.

    It is advisable in any case to reach to a physician and get a more appropriate program. Follow my suggestions only if you don't have the option.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same fug - DO NOT DO DEAD HANGS if you have SLAP tear. Any overhead exercise is not advisable.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The brain can create pain if you have emotional issues. Read John Sarno and find good group therapy or a good depth psychologist if you can

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I believe in emotional causes to health issues, yes. In this case the meaning of problems in the right shoulder are obviously relevant to me. I'm looking for some physical assistance though

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Okay. Sometimes the cause to chronic pain is organic but I think you'd be surprised how often it's the brain reducing blood flow for the express purpose of masking emotional pain, similar phenomena to stress headaches and blushing which are physical manifestations of emotional problems. If you exhaust all your physical options and still have pain it's worth looking into this other solution.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I usually try to look at things from the emotional causes first, and physical fixes as a bandaid solution.
          In this case, the stress and responsibility on me that I can associate as a cause is not going away any time soon.
          I will try to address the issue at that root level, but as you know the experience is not pleasant.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    resistance band face pulls fixed my shoulder

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you are doing lateral raises, stop. This was my source of shoulder pain. If you are not doing them remove an exercise until you find the cause

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    bench press claims yet another victim
    many such cases

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You might have shoulder tendonitis, took me months off the gym to recover.

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