Shoulders is the most aesthetic muscle. What's the best periodization to grow those helmets like never before?
Shoulders is the most aesthetic muscle. What's the best periodization to grow those helmets like never before?
Shoulders is the most aesthetic muscle. What's the best periodization to grow those helmets like never before?
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They don't look good in my animes, so I avoid exercising them
Do lateral raises with a light weight nonstop for an hour straight.
B-but people here said that I should never lift light weights because only fags do that and it doesn't look cool at all
don't worry you'll also snap your shit from repetitive strain
Can confirm
The quest for the insatiable pump
>Show picture of bone structure
>Train shoulders guyz!
This
When will retards realize it's all about genetics
I ignored genetics just to make black pillers seethe
Unless you have the narrowest and most dogshit clavicles along with very wide hips and a blocky core, then no you can do a lot.
Black pill crabs go back into the bucket, then you throw them out.
>heh yeah lets do the borderline unsafe shit that can be overloaded heavy because my gay crush oly lifter does them, in stead of not being retarded and thinking in terms of risk vs stimulus/gains
I'm even on the side of that you can do a lot of "risky" lifts if you go about it smart, and make sure they are safe for you. But this kind of shit gets a lot of retards injured when they could've just done the cookie cutter shit in stead and gotten gains in stead of time off from the gym.
Yeah except BTN movements aren't unsafe. Especially not when compared to high rep lateral raises that people ITT are recommending, which is one of the main lifts that people whine about being a rotator cuff killer.
But I'm not going to shit on lateral raises because clearly, they work for a lot of people. Do I do them? No, because I do Klokov press and I'm just not into them. It's the same thing with the upright row. They feel weird for me but there are loads of people that love them and do them for decades. When a lift is wrong for your body (due to mobility issues etc) you know immediately on the first few reps or you'll start feeling pain soon afterward. This myth that there are "dangerous" lifts that feel fine to do, feel fine the next day but then all of a sudden -AAACK you is complete horse shit, unless we're talking about a sudden 1rm tear or snap which can happen with any standard lift. People shouldn't avoid BTN work because they heard some other person with a completely different body tell a boogeyman story about how it's dangerous. They should just try it out and if it feels natural, then it's fine.
So much this. Only other thing I would add is that I think most of the people who get shoulder pain from BTN movements aren't moving their scapula correctly and thus get shoulder impingement. I used to get pain in my left shoulder from BTNP but after I figured out how to move my scapula properly it went away entirely, and now I can do BTNP heavy with no shoulder pain or discomfort.
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How retarded are you? It's not just about structure
this
like a month or two after i first started lifting i got multiple comments on my frame and how my shoulders were much more defined
it took me six months to finally nail down the lateral raise. i'm convinced people who shit on lateral raises don't know how to do them
any tips?
round your shoulders forward and create a little cup as your elbow comes up
>create a little cup
Wait what's that mean
i've never seen anyone shit on lateral raises
90% of people I see at the gym do lateral raises incorrectly. Typically I see dudes going way too heavy and using way too much traps plus cheat swing. Honestly I see more girls doing them correctly because they go light weight and don't use accessory muscles to compensate.
I managed to get my lat raises up to 25lb dumbbells last week and was so proud of myself, right up until I saw this dude who mogs me to oblivion struggling to squeeze out 10 reps with 20lb dumbbells. Now I’m convinced my lat raise form is awful. I lean only slightly forward and have my arms very slightly bent like I’ve seen in reference videos, but something must be up. I’ve seen this dude dumbbell OHP 120lb dumbbells for reps before, it makes no sense for me to outlift him in anything.
Maybe it was his last set, or he skipped his rest day that week. Don't discount yourself too much, anon.
Klokov press
>B-but it's dangerous
No. Just try it and you'll see that it's fine. Do it in the rack with the safeties up just below your shoulders. There's no risk. I've never felt the slightest bit of pain with this exercise.
Arms/Delts can and should be trained 3-4 times a week.
My take is that repetitive strain injuries is the only limiting factor. So you work around that and pick exercises accordingly. Doing curls and lateral raises aren't going to interfere with your big lifts.
delts I can hit 3-4x a week, but biceps and triceps are 2x a week
>OHP/BTNP
>Lu raises
>Powell raises
All you need.
OHP and lateral raises. That’s all I do and my shoulders look pretty good
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But you have not traps, son. Do deadlifts and reverse grip bent over rows.
> Literal Baki character tier physique.
> Posts on IST.
> Autism face.
ahahahaha. Either way you should start doing kickboxing or something and wreck normies.
wat da fuck, oof
oh my god
>That’s all I do
it shows
>Concave traps
Holy shit, my sides.
you're gonna make it bro
just focus on OHP instead of benching for a while
But benching looks much cooler, how do I look cool while doing OHP?
Do it behind the neck to make jointlets seethe
OHP starts looking cool when you get closer to 1pl8 on each side
Also looks cooler if you're doing it with very strict form (no push pressing)
Benching looks pretty gay, you are laying down and being submissive to lift, and it gives you tits which are some of the most effeminate things in the world, plus you are in a prime position to be sexually assaulted by other homosexuals. With OHP you triumphantly stand as you push big weights above your head, with an ass and posterior chain so tight no man could penetrate, and your hips activated which should cause you to go fully erect letting all women know you are a virile man who can and will fuck.
> Tits.
Its not a submissive position if you power out of the situation, think of lifting rubble or a car that has fallen on you and you are resisting. Overpowering a fierce threat is manly, not submissive.
Also enjoy looking like a turtle if you got no chest.
Every situation you presented is better matched by a lift different than bench. If you want an aesthetic chest literally do weighted dips. Bench is the gayest lift and you can tell because effeminate men based their entire personality around it though it serves no function aside from vanity.
>Benching looks pretty gay, you are laying down and being submissive to lift, and it gives you tits which are some of the most effeminate things in the world, plus you are in a prime position to be sexually assaulted by other homosexuals. With OHP you triumphantly stand as you push big weights above your head, with an ass and posterior chain so tight no man could penetrate, and your hips activated which should cause you to go fully erect letting all women know you are a virile man who can and will fuck.
>by other homosexuals.
>other homosexuals
What are you implying here? Homosexuals other than yourself would sexually assault him or homosexuals other than him?
>ring dips/pushups
>OHP/BTNP
All you need
What about side delt? All those exercises are chad and you are pretty much correct but side delts lack without lateral raises imo
>ring push-ups
Just bench
Was referring to horizontal/vertical presses, for lateral delt I do lu raises, for rear I do powell raises
Ring pushups gigamog bench, you get a better stretch AND squeeze on ring pushups, as well as indirectly strengthening your rotator cuff
retarded to progressively overload. Show me someone doing the equivalent of 4 plates on ring pushups
>Show me someone doing the equivalent of 4 plates on ring pushups
Sure, here you go bro. https://youtu.be/8GvPQGJgTBc?t=36
I worked up to lmao 3.5pl8 (total added) on (bar) weighted push-ups recently. It’s not an easy to compare metric because where you hang the weight will matter (I did it from a weight belt high on waist plus a weighted vest, and feet elevated on a bench.
Such a better ROM and better muscle activation than trying to use angles and bench for compensating lack of stabilisation on bench press.
Anyway big and understated side effect of overloading them is you get some sick core gains.
Ohp is is one of the coolest exercise you gay. Fact is its harder than bench and you will never ohp as much as you can bench. That in itself is very cool
Now imagine the traps of left on the shoulders of right.
High rep of pic rel.
Sand bucket training works the whole chain from forearms to shoulders, OHPs and Deadlifts on top for serious mass.
This but holding the weight up for 5 count.
The difference between left and right is bone structure not muscles
>front delt
Just OHP as well as other pressing movements for the front delt, I also like doing seated dumbbell shoulder press once a week. Front raises are gay and retarded
>Side felt
Simple. Lateral Raises or some variation of lateral raise.
>Rear Delt
Rear Delt fly on cable machine is probably the best one, otherwise regular rear Delt fly or dumbbell.
Also closer grip chest supported rows of some kind, I like using the T-bar one in my gym.
why are people still posting that image
sad that his shoulders can't offset his unfortunate hips
Still mogs manlets.
You want to train delts to failure but in the 15-20 rep range rather than the typical 8-12. This is because delts have a higher proportion type-2 muscle fibers.
Muscle fiber composition is a meme, slow twitch gets hit by aerobc training (cardio) while fast twitch gets hit by anaerobic training, meaning that as long as you're not being limited by your cardio, you're training fast twitch fibers. Anything in the 5-30 rep range is valid for delts as long as you're not being limited by cardiovascular failure.
>slow twitch
>fast twitch
Is it possible to hit fast twitch with oxygen deprivation cardio?
Like lifting on a mountain?
>anaerobic training
>Like lifting on a mountain?
Yeah or hypoventillating. Is it possible at all?
I am being limited by cardiovascular failure. But runners are twinks. I don't know what to do.
How do I activate my shoulder muscle
Lateral raises. Overhead press: behind the head or above the chest variation. Standing rows. Bent over rows (though this is more of a back exercise).
Anon, the only way to do it is to swim for 2-4 hours a week between the ages of 10-16.
Ohp, bench press (flat and incline) for front delt
delt raises, ohp, for side delt,
Pull down machine, chest fly machine, rows for rear delts
>periodization
You need to use them harder, not more often, so it would be a period of maximum intensity and then a period of recovery. Most people don't believe this because most lifts arent conducive to it so they can't get it to work.
Lateral raises have the most resistance at the top and none at the bottom. This is all wrong. You can get by with throwing volume at it for as much as volume works which is not much. Even conventional periodization knows to have an overload (read high intensity) phase and then a deload (recovery) which is why it does anything at all.
Try lying on your side on a slightly inclined bench and putting a light barbell on the pins and lateral raising like that. The resistance will be higher on the concentric so you'll be able to produce more mechanical tension and actually make delt gains.
I've attempted to illustrate it. Pic related.
Or just use a cable machine, for lateral raises they really are superior due to the resistance curve.
*The resistance will be higher on the eccentric
The biggest lateral raise redpill is that you should do them with cables, with the max tension starting with your hand at your crotch from the very beginning
A wide frame is the most aesthetic muscle. It's impressive in regards to the muscle size of the guy on the left. But the guy on the right mogs him with just his frame.
the amount of clinical retards here who believe lateral delts magically give you the wide look is hilarious.
the ONLY muscle that can make you wider is huge lats. i've literally never done lateral raises and i look pretty much like the right guy.
Train to failure twice per week. Take 10 days off every 6-8 weeks. The guys in your pic are roided (at least the guy on the left is 100%), but those shoulders are attainable naturally