Huberman just told me I need to abstain from alcohol, caffeine and cannabis for 12 hours before sleeping, and avoid exercise 6 hours before sleeping, to get the best possible sleep quality, meaning the maximum amount of the deep sleep phase where growth hormones are released. Assuming I somehow manage to organize my schedule around that, what in the hell do I do with my entire afternoon and evening every day?
Also, any other thoughts on sleep quality and fitness.
Is the 6 hours before bed thing real?
Pretty sure it at least varies person to person, intensity of exercise matters as well. 6 hours is by far the longest I've heard
Yes it's real and it fucks with your sleep, but you can somewhat mitigate it by laying down and doing down regulation breathing for 5-10 minutes directly after the workout. It also accelerates recovery
It's proven that people have better cognitive performance throughout the day after a morning of resistance training. Unless you do crazy amounts obviously.
Easy work if you go to gym in the morning. I drink coffee at 4am and hit gym around 5am. Work/classes then in between 8 and 9.
Do you find doing gym in the morning saps brain power from study anon?
what time do you go to bed and how long do you sleep?
In bed between 8p and 9pm. I sleep 7-8hrs.
I find it helps because your blood is already flowing and you have the hardest part of your day already over with.
>bed between 8p and 9pm. I sleep 7-8hrs.
Literal no lifer
>get up for work at 5am
>get to work at 530am
>home at 4am
>immediately lift then do cardio until 7
>get ready to wind down for bed
>lay in bed
>don’t fall asleep until 11/12 most nights
I’m doomed bros
That schedule sounds like it sucks your soul out, be honest, what's your coping mechanism?
Caffeine is interesting as its metabolites, which are just as stimulating, can stay in your system for days.
For every molecule of adrenaline your body produces (caffeine spikes your adrenaline) there are 10,000 chain reactions that take place in your body to process it. So, yeah, caffeine is a huge drain on your body for a long time after you consume it.
I was talking more about the duration of the effects. Huberman and Mathew Walker are wrong about caffeine on this, in that even though the caffeine has a quarter life of around 12 hours, its metabolite paraxanthine persists much longer. Enough to where daily caffeine ingestion can cause a gradual buildup of paraxanthine in your system. This recent study shows that metabolites can still be detected 30+ hours after caffeine ingestion. And also explains why people who are completely caffeine sensitized end up rolling for 20 hours on a single dose, incredibly useful in certain circumstances.
You just convinced me to quit coffee forever
This mfer is such a clown. Theres dudes walking around that smoke, drink, fuck, stay up for 36 hours straight, and their test is over 2000 ng/L
that ain't me. I have to min-max the body I have, not pretend I'm some sort of juiced up alpha werewolf
Right with you, age is only showing me this shit matters even more
This guy got exposed hard
I'm all for skepticism, and the guy has a point about weak underworked research being sited by huberman and other pop-science influencers as "numbers" that indicate this and that.
But him screaming the whole time, blatantly misquoting and lying about what huberman actually said, and presenting only anecdotes from the life of him and his wrestling buddies as his counterargument is not exposing anyone
You must be fucking high on crack to believe that.
I use cannabis atleast 30 minutes or 1 hour before sleeping and I sleep like a baby.
Last coffee about 5-6 hours before sleeping.
And alcohol is for plebs anyway
He argues that it helps you go to sleep, but blocks REM sleep which is when your body repairs itself/memory functions
I smoke weed daily too but find I have REM sleep only in the mornings, where as is if I have my last cone at 4pm I can sometimes get some REM around 11
I should be right about that, but who draws the line at 6 hours? why not 3? Also it can depend from person to person?
I'm 29, been using daily for the past 7 years and frequently for the past 11, I can sleep without it but its true if you go to sleep too high you will have shitty sleep.
But if you are just a bit buzzed I feel like it doesn't affect my sleep at all
you're probably very young.
And you obviously can sleep while high on weed, but the quality of sleep is trash. I don't even dream in that condition.
I sleep like a log when I have general anesthetic but that doesn't mean I sleep well you fucking dumb stoner cunt
((Hubermann)). Another garden gnome pushing "science".
Do this and that and overanalyze everything goyim.
get out of my thread hitler
Huberman, more like Uberman am I right? hehehe
Name checks out
I smoke weed and drink coffee and I can't sleep so I get sick and can't sleep so I stay sick and drink more coffee and smoke more weed and can't sleep and weeks, months, years get wasted
Smoke less retard. Less is more.
It's time to hit the gym now anyways.
Cute avatar btw
I quit smoking weed in december and have had the most intense dreams almost every night since. I often wake up and remember five or more separate, long and intricate dreams. I have no way to tell if my sleep is in fact better or worse, I'd guess worse because dreaming like I do can be confusing if I let myself fixate on it, and intuitively you'd think its got to be a strain on something, but I feel exactly the same as before once I get out of bed.
You could buy a Whoop to better understand what your body needs to perform and recover optimally. Alcohol for example really destroys your recovery on Whoop, so does bad diets and bad sleeping habits.
I've used mine for a couple of months and it has really helped me improve, I didn't think I'd make such a difference but going from 34% recovery to averaging 90% is huge, I now wake up and feel ready/happy instead of sluggish
Based Whoop salesman. Seems expensive, any good alternatives?
Idk, I've only used Whoop and it works well for me, when I made my decision it seemed like the best one at the time, maybe there are better things now
I’ve had mild bout of insomnia these past two months. It all stemmed from one bad night of sleep, then I was absolutely fine and then struggled to sleep because roommates were being too loud. Now I’m back in a peaceful environment and I sleep well on most nights but if I recall the bad nights of not being able to sleep I get worked up and anxious and can’t sleep.
It’s purely mental. How do I get rid of the bad memories of not being able to sleep so I can sleep every night?
by just accepting that there will some times be bad nights of sleep but that is okay because you will be okay
Yeah… you’re right anon… I will be ok!