sleep quality

Huberman just told me I need to abstain from alcohol, caffeine and cannabis for 12 hours before sleeping, and avoid exercise 6 hours before sleeping, to get the best possible sleep quality, meaning the maximum amount of the deep sleep phase where growth hormones are released. Assuming I somehow manage to organize my schedule around that, what in the hell do I do with my entire afternoon and evening every day?

Also, any other thoughts on sleep quality and fitness.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is the 6 hours before bed thing real?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure it at least varies person to person, intensity of exercise matters as well. 6 hours is by far the longest I've heard

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes it's real and it fricks with your sleep, but you can somewhat mitigate it by laying down and doing down regulation breathing for 5-10 minutes directly after the workout. It also accelerates recovery

      Do you find doing gym in the morning saps brain power from study anon?

      It's proven that people have better cognitive performance throughout the day after a morning of resistance training. Unless you do crazy amounts obviously.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Easy work if you go to gym in the morning. I drink coffee at 4am and hit gym around 5am. Work/classes then in between 8 and 9.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you find doing gym in the morning saps brain power from study anon?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      what time do you go to bed and how long do you sleep?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        In bed between 8p and 9pm. I sleep 7-8hrs.

        Do you find doing gym in the morning saps brain power from study anon?

        I find it helps because your blood is already flowing and you have the hardest part of your day already over with.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >bed between 8p and 9pm. I sleep 7-8hrs.

          Literal no lifer

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >get up for work at 5am
    >get to work at 530am
    >home at 4am
    >immediately lift then do cardio until 7
    >shower
    >eat
    >8pm
    >get ready to wind down for bed
    >lay in bed
    >don’t fall asleep until 11/12 most nights
    >repeat
    I’m doomed bros

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      That schedule sounds like it sucks your soul out, be honest, what's your coping mechanism?

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Caffeine is interesting as its metabolites, which are just as stimulating, can stay in your system for days.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      For every molecule of adrenaline your body produces (caffeine spikes your adrenaline) there are 10,000 chain reactions that take place in your body to process it. So, yeah, caffeine is a huge drain on your body for a long time after you consume it.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was talking more about the duration of the effects. Huberman and Mathew Walker are wrong about caffeine on this, in that even though the caffeine has a quarter life of around 12 hours, its metabolite paraxanthine persists much longer. Enough to where daily caffeine ingestion can cause a gradual buildup of paraxanthine in your system. This recent study shows that metabolites can still be detected 30+ hours after caffeine ingestion. And also explains why people who are completely caffeine sensitized end up rolling for 20 hours on a single dose, incredibly useful in certain circumstances.
        https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2021.787225/full

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You just convinced me to quit coffee forever

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You just convinced me to quit coffee forever

          I'm quitting.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This mfer is such a clown. Theres dudes walking around that smoke, drink, frick, stay up for 36 hours straight, and their test is over 2000 ng/L

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      that ain't me. I have to min-max the body I have, not pretend I'm some sort of juiced up alpha werewolf

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Right with you, age is only showing me this shit matters even more

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This guy got exposed hard

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >exposed
      I'm all for skepticism, and the guy has a point about weak underworked research being sited by huberman and other pop-science influencers as "numbers" that indicate this and that.
      But him screaming the whole time, blatantly misquoting and lying about what huberman actually said, and presenting only anecdotes from the life of him and his wrestling buddies as his counterargument is not exposing anyone

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You must be fricking high on crack to believe that.
    I use cannabis atleast 30 minutes or 1 hour before sleeping and I sleep like a baby.
    Last coffee about 5-6 hours before sleeping.
    And alcohol is for plebs anyway

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He argues that it helps you go to sleep, but blocks REM sleep which is when your body repairs itself/memory functions
      I smoke weed daily too but find I have REM sleep only in the mornings, where as is if I have my last cone at 4pm I can sometimes get some REM around 11

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I should be right about that, but who draws the line at 6 hours? why not 3? Also it can depend from person to person?

        you're probably very young.
        And you obviously can sleep while high on weed, but the quality of sleep is trash. I don't even dream in that condition.

        I'm 29, been using daily for the past 7 years and frequently for the past 11, I can sleep without it but its true if you go to sleep too high you will have shitty sleep.
        But if you are just a bit buzzed I feel like it doesn't affect my sleep at all

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're probably very young.
      And you obviously can sleep while high on weed, but the quality of sleep is trash. I don't even dream in that condition.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I sleep like a log when I have general anesthetic but that doesn't mean I sleep well you fricking dumb stoner c**t

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    ((Hubermann)). Another israelite pushing "science".
    Do this and that and overanalyze everything goyim.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      get out of my thread hitler

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Huberman, more like Uberman am I right? hehehe

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >~~*Huberman*~~
    Name checks out

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I smoke weed and drink coffee and I can't sleep so I get sick and can't sleep so I stay sick and drink more coffee and smoke more weed and can't sleep and weeks, months, years get wasted

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Smoke less moron. Less is more.
      It's time to hit the gym now anyways.
      Cute avatar btw

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        uwu

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I quit smoking weed in december and have had the most intense dreams almost every night since. I often wake up and remember five or more separate, long and intricate dreams. I have no way to tell if my sleep is in fact better or worse, I'd guess worse because dreaming like I do can be confusing if I let myself fixate on it, and intuitively you'd think its got to be a strain on something, but I feel exactly the same as before once I get out of bed.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You could buy a Whoop to better understand what your body needs to perform and recover optimally. Alcohol for example really destroys your recovery on Whoop, so does bad diets and bad sleeping habits.
    I've used mine for a couple of months and it has really helped me improve, I didn't think I'd make such a difference but going from 34% recovery to averaging 90% is huge, I now wake up and feel ready/happy instead of sluggish

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based Whoop salesman. Seems expensive, any good alternatives?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Idk, I've only used Whoop and it works well for me, when I made my decision it seemed like the best one at the time, maybe there are better things now

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve had mild bout of insomnia these past two months. It all stemmed from one bad night of sleep, then I was absolutely fine and then struggled to sleep because roommates were being too loud. Now I’m back in a peaceful environment and I sleep well on most nights but if I recall the bad nights of not being able to sleep I get worked up and anxious and can’t sleep.

    It’s purely mental. How do I get rid of the bad memories of not being able to sleep so I can sleep every night?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      by just accepting that there will some times be bad nights of sleep but that is okay because you will be okay

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah… you’re right anon… I will be ok!

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