so are they a main lift or not?

so are they a main lift or not?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bent overs? no. pendlay? closer but probably still no. chest supported? probably the best you're getting for a horizontal pull.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    main lift for back pain, yes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I said fuck this, last session.

      Fucking my lower back is retarded. Might as well do any other variation that doesn't screw your back.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        do pulley row, barbell rows are retarded, especially for a beginner

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do them with the weight resting on the floor like deads and it reduces a kot of the stress.

      If you can deadlift 300+ without fucking up your lower back then there is no reason you cant do 200+ rows frok the floor.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've literally never gotten lower back pain doing these in all my years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do pendley rows instead, also check your form and don't ego lift
      Back day strengthes your back, stop fear mongering

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only if you’re not a dyel weak beta bitchboy

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well you never anyone brag about someone making a 1-rep max on rows, do you?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Depends but Seal Rows can be more measurable but more difficult to implement. You could also say that the main lifts are Snatch , Clean and Jerk and assistance lifts are Squats, Pulls, Push Press,Power Cleans , Power Snatches just saying.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you’re a StrongLifts pussy yes

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, they are really only for strength. Wide grip pullups do way more for aesthetics and allow you to do more volume.

    I find the landmine row more fun, and I feel it in my legs more since it feels similar to a deadlift.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like an exercise for pantyboys.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're doing Deadlifts and squats heavy, chest supported rows are better imo

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I did them for a year, reached almost 2pl8s, then a tendon in my front delt started hurting while doing em

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Chest supported snatch grips rows, yes.
    Pullups and its variations are god tier for lats (width), but for rear delts, traps (specially mid and lower), and rhomboids, which all contribute to back thickness, you need rows.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No. Honestly, pretty much every single non-bent over/non-self-stabilizing row is better. Heck, even almost every other version where you are still bent over and loading the spine is way better.
    Landmine T-Bar rows are way better, one arm dumbbell rows are way better.
    Inverted rows are way better, probably the best overall if you find a way to load them, followed by one arm row followed by seated cable row.
    You don't even actually need to do rows, pull ups/chin ups and a combination of face pulls and upright rows will get you more and better targeted back development.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kroc rows are superior.

    Otherwise horizontal rows on the rings or smith machine are better.

    and weighted chinups

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Heavy cable rows for me

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love yates rows and t bar rows

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Do T bar row with rope grip
      >Watch grip strength go through the roof

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've never viewed them as anything more than a deadlift accessory, even when I was a newbie on SL.

        I did t-bars with a rope for a while, but found my lats got way stronger just doing them by holding the bar directly.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes but also no.
    I consider rows + weighted pull ups combined to equal one main lift

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't consider every single lift as important as another, as long as it works towards the goal in mind

      NGMI fr fr no cap, mid af

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts on meadows rows and pendlay rows?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In terms of functionality, yes. Any well-rounded routine should have pullups and rows, vertical and horizontal pulls, to balance out the vertical and horizontal pushes that are OHP and bench.

    the issue is that rows get swept under the rug because there's a million different variations on how to do them and no clear defined "rules" on how do to do them. But that shit is just autism, just do rows whatever way works for you and make sure you can progress on them while keeping form consistent.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just do db rows

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Change to t bar row

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    my wrists hate these for some reason, i have to do them underhand

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I started doing more cheaty style rows that Cailer Woolam talked about in some of his videos, and it blew up my deadlift. I also got some aesthetics gains from it I’d say. Also ofc gotta do Kroc rows.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, I’m going to do the today, feels good man

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are simply because they are a great compound movement that requires a lot of muscles to work together.
    Why people don't look at them seriously for competition like bench, squat or dl is because you can cheat the movement easily so it would be hard to judge it properly.
    Rows don't get the credit they deserve.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    T bar rows and kroc rows big dick vibes only

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    JFL at bent over rows, it's pendley rows or nothing

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Should you be doing only one variation of rows or multiple in a program? Ive been doing Yates and I instantly felt my back getting worked harder than when I was doing Pendlays but I know its only hitting one portion of my back.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      change it every few months or so

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