So, does cooming before or after the training affect your gains?

So, does cooming before or after the training affect your gains?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nofap is a incel cult from reddit with no scientific backing, but cooming too much will mess with the reward system of your brain

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not what I asked. Does it affect my gains?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes fapping before can fry ur dopamine and motivation

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Talk for yourself. When I have sex or fap before training I'm in a way better mood, have more fun and effectively get more done.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How old are you?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              33

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Same here, training always goes way better after a good 'ol fapparoo

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a placebo, so if you're a very naive person who will believe anything an anonymous person on the internet says, masturbation can make you feel ashamed and weak. But if you're not easily swayed by the unverified claims of random redditors, then you'll coom and it won't affect you too much.
        Of course, cooming 10 times a day can be as harmful as eating only McDonald's your whole life. Unless you're handicapped, you should already know that everything needs balance.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No wrong, cooming from mastrubation releases prolactin, its not placebo.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cooming once a day won't make much of difference

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Try for yourself and find out, it's not naturally to coom that often.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            take a cold shower it'll reset everything.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if we want to be anal about it yes, cooming and having to produce sperm when you really don't need to is leeching prime material that you could be using in recovery, hypertrophy etc.
        idk and don't care if overcompensating with diet would offset this, jacking off is literally useless, simple as.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nofap is a incel cult from reddit with no scientific backing, but cooming too much will mess with the reward system of your brain

        https://i.imgur.com/K36fTGN.png

        So, does cooming before or after the training affect your gains?

        Masturbation and Pornography have widely documented negative health effects. Pornography is more insidious.
        Pornography reduces gray matter in the brain, lowers impulse control, Dulls your dopamine receptors, and has comparable long term effects to cocaine / heroin addiction.

        Masturbation reduces testosterone, floods your body with prolactin (which kills motivation), and long term can lead to all of the other effects associated with low testosterone.

        If youre not able to quit jacking off, at least quit pornography. You will find that you will struggle to jack off more than once or twice a week at most.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You will find that you will struggle to jack off more than once or twice a week at most.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes without the artificial stimulus of pornography you will find it much more difficult to jack off just using your imagination.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I quit porn and I still struggle to NOT fap every day.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >open up e621 for some easy coom material
              >halfway through my fap I start thinking about some cool ass shit from a video game like Hoarah Loux’s reveal or start miring my biceps are and it’s enough for me to finish
              sometimes i wonder why i even use porn

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >open up e621

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                your reaction reveals your degeneracy

                join me brother, no more hiding

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post full screencap/ just the image itself.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nofap
      >from reddit
      False. It started here on 4chuds

      https://i.imgur.com/K36fTGN.png

      So, does cooming before or after the training affect your gains?

      It'll affect your energy levels which will negatively impact your leanness and life quality. If you do it like a full on gooner then it'll raise your prolactin and you'll really fuck yourself up

      even better, have sex dont coom

      Hamza spotted

      Bros if i get erections a lot easier when my legs are spread or when im sitting, does that mean all thath shit down there is really tight and i need to stretch?

      Yes

      wat

      They're calling you old fashioned

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can confirm, am gooner

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You should get a tripcode.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >False. It started here on 4chuds
        So did trollface comics and saying EPIC

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Masturbation will give you prolactin problems? How so?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When you coom from mastrubating ypur body releases prolactin, the more you coom from mastrubation the more your prolactin builds up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp
      no fap is just gigantic cope from genetic dead ends with zero control over their own life

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        or a weird Freudian cult thing

        people are weird about psychosexual stuff

        but athletes do this sometimes before games

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When you can't disagree with something without labelling your opposition with baseless insults, you come off as insecure anon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          checked, but you have to admit most people who fall for the nofap meme are KHVs who think abstaining from ejaculation will magically make them more confident and desirable.
          fair to mention the fpbp's point that masturbating constantly will fuck with your reward system and motivation but completely going cold turkey is not some magic trick. It will also increase your risk of ED + prostate cancer the longer you do it.
          Im not insecure, just upset that so many young men can be deceived so easily.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so you admit that fapping can have a physiological and psychological effect on you, but that not fapping has no physiological effect despite mountains of anectodal evidence to the contrary?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but you have to admit most people who fall for the nofap meme are KHVs
            Ahh yes all those pro figher KHVs
            >think abstaining from ejaculation will magically make them more confident and desirable.

            Literally yes. The angry, horny feeling is literally the greatest blessing a man has. The virility makes me burn holes into a woman's eyesockets with the eye contact I make with them on a good NoFap streak. It makes me sociable and enjoy group projects, whereas I would feel like a bitchy hermit when I would nut before class. I get to live the before/after, so I don't give a fuck what anyone says

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >abstaining from ejaculation will magically make them more confident and desirable.
            Thats the whole point. But reemplaze magically with science
            Ive seen it myself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do people who don't masturbate make you upset?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nofap has no scientific backing
      >fapping will mess with your head
      You okay there bro? Fapped much lately?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is how you know it works
      people get mad that you do it

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Having orgasms in general will kill your gains. Edge for an hour before going to the gym and your lifts will feel much easier than normal.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do people really just, stop jerking off before cumming? Seems insane to me, gotta be easier to just not fap

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've been doing it for about 100 days and I find it far easier than not wanking at all.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not if you practise and train your pelvic floor muscle, like you hold in your pee right before you want to coom. I can hold my pee in for hours now. I have become a pissmaxxer.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cooming causes prolactin levels to rise
    >too much prolactin reduces the production of the hormones estrogen and testosterone

    yea this one is hard to figure out bros

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, if lifting raises testosterone then cooming before training seems like the logical move, no?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        imo it makes most sense to only coom if you feel chronically stressed (in the evening before bed with a femoid) or for the purpose of procreation
        anything else is degenerate pleasure seeking

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Holy shit it’s the quaker oats man, can I get your autograph or are you not allowed to use a ballpoint pen?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wat

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the evening before bed with a femoid
          Great way to not getting it up/not being able to cum with her.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That you may have a hard time getting it up if you are comming befor your date. Or the opposite that due to death gripping you may have a hard time cumming with her.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Chad bangs another Stacey every night and cooms raw inside her, while you practice semen retention.

      Yeah, this one is hard to figure out

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >having sex with a woman is the same as masturbating
        yeah ok moron

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    According to some anon. You should coom at the morning of your rest day. That way energy will build up until your next lifting, and you won't waste the night after lifting's gains.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have sex instead of coom for the T gains

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      even better, have sex dont coom

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bros if i get erections a lot easier when my legs are spread or when im sitting, does that mean all thath shit down there is really tight and i need to stretch?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cooming can make you feel relaxed temporarily, for me it's not ideal before working out, but it doesn't matter that much.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    deadlifts and heavy squats make me so fucking horny man when i come home from the gym i fap whilst drinking my protein shake, then immediately fap again whilst preparing for shower and then fap a third time in the shower
    other than that i never fap

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't know why, but that sounds really fucking gay.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't know why, but that sounds really fucking gay.

      Heavy compounds raises test.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        source?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stronglifts 5x5 guy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They raise test ~24hrs after a lifting session, you're actually the lowest test levels of your entire day immediately after a workout. The fact that you need to fap during your peak estrogen cycle is proof that there's nothing inherently masculine about nutting in your own hand

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Same after a night of drinking, ppl get horney because of estrogen levels.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Whenever you fap you waste something your body has worked to create. Just don't fap.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Experiment. Personally i edge before my workout and as a result my lifts feel lighter and im warmed up

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    athletes will keep themselves from doing it before games and matches

    they think it gives them an edge

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why do

      retards always post like this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reddit spacing. Reddit uses markdown to format posts. Markdown ignore one linebreak, so for proper linebreaks you have to put two. IST doesn't use this so when transferring that habit here you get these posts with too much spacing. It's either that or just being retarded.
        Be careful not to confuse it with paragraphs, as that is just a proper way to not make walls of text.
        You can especially notice when it's between the post number and first text in a reply.

        Like this.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Dumbfuck meme

          Anyone with a white collar job will double space between ideas because they’re used to sending emails.

          You’ve been shown time and time again how “reddit spacing” was in common use on IST long before reddit existed

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >double space between ideas
            That's what I, partly, meant by paragraphs. You see it much more than that though. In extreme cases you even see it in greentext. Or, as said, between post numbers and text.

            I also feel that it has increased, that it was much less common in like ~2015.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's basic formatting, and it's not anything new.

              I am a professional writer and have used this website since 2003.

              I prefer to format my sentences like this because I have more to say than a single one line and don't want to format paragraphs like I am posting on reddit or something

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It also looks nicer than reading a legit essay on an Atlantic cheese making forum

                I also consciously write my sentences in sequential lengths just for the aesthetic beauty of it like EE Cummings

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing "basic formating" about the retarded whitespace for no reason.
                There's a reason markdown kills it. Same when writing in Latex.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I prefer to read it this way, other

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      as did mike thaison

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >coom before exercise
    >unmotivated
    >coom after exercise
    >feel less recovered the next day
    >coom during exercise
    >distracted while lifting
    it is all bad. if you must fap/coom, make a game of it as you try to last progressively longer. I have noticed the least negative effects doing this on rest days.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In one study, testosterone levels increased by an average of 45% after 7 days of abstinence: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12659241/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and then they dropped back down to normal

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP quit porn, fap or don't fap, that's a whole differnt thing, but quit porn, it's really fucking bad or you in every way. If you just fap to your imagination, in bed at night, or in an evening shower, it won't matter if it makes you tired.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ed
    >prostate cancer
    nig

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cooming litterally shortens your life, if you want to coom do it inside the woman you love

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes to make life

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do nofap and noporn exclusively so that I can get a rush when I see a nice ass in public.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember cooming before a sparring heavy boxing session and it was the best one I've had in my entire life. I actually felt like picrel

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if I only look at gravure models that never reveal nipples or their manko? Never with another guy? Still nofap. Is that still pornography?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure that even Varg said that nudes aren't porn. Or that it was in the description of one of his "stop watching porn" vids.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edge just before lifting
    Blue balls power bar bells

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Everybody and nobody

    Its so easy not to cum and just spend that glorious lifeforce energy on everything you would like to accomplish. I have literal 10/10 beautiful girlfriend and treat making love as something sacred. Whenever we make love at the end i squeeze with three fingers this place between balls and penis with middle finger in middle and two holding just gently squeeze this area and visualize the lifeforce energy circulate back into your body. Its a ancient technique.
    I feel great. Why would I ever cum to a fucking pixels on a electric screen moving is nonsense to me anymore. Letting out your fluid that can create a LITERAL HUMAN onto some pixels moving on some fucking box? what is the point? this is literaly some satanic nonsense ritual to keep you a zombie.

    I realised what is so hard about keeping your life-potion of infinite energy inside of You? It is so easy. You make it hard by your own mind playing tricks on You. I eat clean I train everyday, calisthenics, gym, boxing, running, anything I have infinite source of energy stored inside of me and You can have it too. Just dont spray your creation force for nothing. Believe in God, we live in a world where music videos, hollywood movies, porn, internet, A.I nonsense its all satanic. God will help You brother, He is waiting for You to help yourself. He will help You too, You just have to let him know that You will atleast try. Day by day, live by the present moment and make the most of it.

    Non-cumming is something more. It is spiritual and wonderful and I talk it as a beautiful young man with a wonderful beautiful woman on my side. If I can do that then You can do that too. Just literally dont touch yourself you fucking ogre how hard can it be? Is pixels on a screenbox enough to defeat You? what the fuck. Slap yourself and help yourself. God exists. Wake up

    pic is me. I believe in You. You can do it. Just believe and act like it. Holding your lifeforce inside of You is just beautiful and life-changing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      liftime natty? height/weight? how long u lifted

      • 3 weeks ago
        Everybody and nobody

        lifetime natty and always will be natural. People who take steroids make me laugh, their psyhique is weirdly veiny, hair loss and shrinked balls. But I respect that they train a lot. But steroids sucks overall. Its changing something that God created for a temporary pump (looks uglier than natural work)

        180cm height 77 kg weight

        Calisthenics mostly. Tons and tons of pushups from normal ones to diamond ones. I am 24 years old I workout very dedicated since 4 years. Before that I did something here and there.

        Push ups, push ups, sit ups, calisthenics. pull ups chin ups.

        I love gym too, but that type of workout I listed above is so easy to do because You can do that anywhere there is a calisthenics outside workout place in most places in the world. And push-ups etc I do in home. I love doing gym but most of my strenght and psyhique came just from bodyweight training that I feel is the most natural and greatest way to maintain a good athletic shape outside and inside

        I avoid meat, I prefer fish. I eat a lot of penauts, sometimes salmon. Tofu with rice or macaroni. Meat is overrated and its sad to see all the animals slaughtered for mass consumption its a nonsense circus.

        Working out changed my life for the better. God changed my life into a best journey I ever been on.

        bonus note:
        DONT WASTE YOUR LIFE-FLUID ON SOME PIXELS MOVING SIMULATING A REAL LOVE. God will be proud if you stop that self-sabotage satanic ritual.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          rickson gracie visiting us from the past to send us a message....

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neither affect gains. As far as your body is concerned you are procreating.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i'm on day 20, it's my new years resolution to stop fapping. i feel like i can go harder at sets and grunt a lot more, idk why, maybe it's the sexual frustration growing up on me, next week i'm going out with a girl so i'll see how i feel at the gym after that, until now, nofap works for me

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Become the ouroboros, eat your coom dont waste the life force and nootrients.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    makes zero fucking difference compared to the myriad of other things you can fix before that

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      like?

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It won't affect your gains at all. Just don't fap before your workout, since you will just get sleepy and you won't really lift big.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You just counerdicked yourself

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