so funny how i used to be intimidated by angry people "oh no he can punch and hurt me"
now that i have a boxing bag...i mean im not a "fighter" yet..but im starting to feel like i can throw a few punches at least.
when you are an actual boxing student 4-6 months...you no longer fear anyone. oh this guy is gonna try to punch me? i can break his skull in seconds.
Based dunning-kruger exemplar
Fpbp. This loser is gonna get his shit knocked in
Yup, lmfao. "I've been boxing for a half a year, I am now a legendary warrior" loool, get your fudge packed OP, you sissy homosexual
You again?
Grappling > Striking
while you're scooting over on your back i already crushed your skull, kid
Im going to slam you my dude.
>fighting in a jacket against a grappler
Honestly, he's lucky he wasn't a judo guy, that jacket is like christmas
I want to do gi judo just for that reason because I've done wrestling for 4 years and no gi judo for a year. I just figured the no gi throws would be more useful.
They would be more useful. Wearing a jacket like in the video though gives me a woody. Ogoshis (hip throws) would be the most useful, especially for a small guy against a tall guy/woman. But with a jacket honestly everything is open.
Imagine video above but with someone who doesn't know how to fall. Head first into concrete, good night sweet prince.
qrd on this buck?
I think the dude is paralyzed now. Vids on YouTube somewhere but basically he was yelling "I'M FROM NEW YORK" as loud as he could and started some random fight with this dude from Alabama and got wrecked.
>act the fool in public, start a fight and get justifiably beaten
>video is circulated on the internet, letting everyone see exactly how deplorable a person you are
>autofellatio masters give you a five-star treatment so you can learn to "defend yourself"
Man, I hate the Gracies.
Remember gracies got their asses handed to them by a Jap that refused to wrestle them on the ground and instead kicked them, LMAO.
The Gracies have always been scumbags. It's a miracle that they came up with a competitive format as fun as BJJ, even if IBJJF seems bent on killing the sport.
A lot of modern BJJ is directly from Judo and Sambo. The Gracies weren't the only Brazilians to work on Jiu-jitsu. Hats off to them they did a good job but they are also way overrated.
John Danaher and Eddie Bravo have done far more for grappling as far as techniques.
"I thought you chose the one you want."
This was in Russia. There's a good chance that the kid actually does judo - it's very popular there and the FSU guys all seem to have a good ura-nage/suplex.
he was lucky that troony heavy rotate punch get over his unprotected baby face.
Terrible example, dude. Kid knew what he was doing, the troony didn't. No stance, a horrible jab with no technique, and a telegraph that gave MMA kid here seven years to dodge it. Oh, also the janny didn't drop his purse, throwing of its center of mass. Anyone with any experience would have beat the troony's head in (justifiably).
Yeah dude, if someone has never sparred boxing they always do dumb shit like this. I've been doing kick boxing, no gi Jui Jitsu, and wrestling for years. The laziest thing I do when sparring boxing or kick boxing is tie and throw the person while wearing gloves.
He dodged that elbow too, and tossed a dude that weighs at least 20 kg more then he does
Never said it wasn't impressive.
A boxer that only does boxing has no answer to a wrestler. He can't counter a takedown or any other grappling move.
Even if the troony knew boxing, if it didn't know wrestling, he would be fricked.
>Im going to slam you my dude.
Will your slam have an effect? Unlike the one in the webm?
Literally moronic take. If grappling was better than striking the best mma guys would always be grappler only and an all state wrestler with a belt belt in Judo or Jiu-jitsu would always be the champion of any mma league.
>mma guys
Don't punch balls, don't break noses and have no broken spine after the first (and last) career fight. It is still regulated and in no way indicative of what would happen on the street.
>muh street
The only people who say this kind of stuff are people who have literally never been in a fight on the street. Hitting people in the balls doesn't end fights, people get broken noses and bones and eye gouges and all kinds of shit in MMA all the time (it's banned because it doesn't end fights, it just hurts people without causing stoppages), and getting body-slammed onto a mat is not fundamentally different than getting slammed onto the ground or concrete (MMA fighters don't get hurt that bad because they know how to break falls and slams).
You're a goofball whose never been in a fight on the street, so stop bringing up the street. What works in MMA directly correlates to what works on the street. This is widely accepted by self-defense experts and the guys who grew up fighting on the street that then went to MMA.
Striking is even more effective in streetfights. The ground is concrete usually which means most grappling techniques leave you open to slamming your head or being slammed on concrete not mats. Any striker with even 1 lesson of takedown defense will usually frick up a grappler in a street situation and also you want to be on your feet to run away if you're outnumbered.
I train both and I love grappling but saying grappling is better than striking is pure moronation in a competitive environment, in the wild it is apex tardery
Mma is boring because its mostly grappling
1v1 I'll always bet on the grappler, but against multiple people striking is superior
guns and shooting will always mog any gay moronic combat sport, fighting style, striking, grappling and so on.
Imagine thinking you can kungfu kick or jab a bullet lmao.
yeah whenever you get into a minor physical altercation just fricking shoot them. That'll go well
Not him but I live in Florida and it is my legal right and duty to shoot someone if they try to get in a minor physical altercation with me.
Florida is an exception
You train in combat sports or the like in order to be able to fight IN CASE you are in a situation without a weapon.
i train in combat sports because its fun.
You enjoy wrestling men on the ground? Ok gay
WUSSSS
HOOD OOS c**t
You need to spar to learn how to fight
Go spar in a gym once buddy, you ain't shit
Nice thread m8
roast lamb for dins
shoulders, legs and core
Gonna go read some arachnogirl doujins
If GC pops by, call him a gay c**t.
NO! this can't happen it's too dangerous for us mere mortals. we should do everything to stop this skull breaking menace before he gets out of control. 4-6 months of punching a bag and he can already crack skulls? shiiieeeeeeeet! imagine what he can do if he trains 2 more months.
I am so afraid of knives. Guns are usually enough for deterrent but people with knives out will use them and might hide them till the last second. This is why I don't like getting into fights unless I have to protect my loved ones.
>A boxer that only does boxing has no answer to a wrestler. He can't counter a takedown or any other grappling move.
>Even if the troony knew boxing, if it didn't know wrestling, he would be fricked.
The reality is most fights end up in a tie, and if you can throw someone and punch them in the face while they're on the ground you have an advantage.
Punching fight on YouTube are always long and end up with people on the ground
Meanwhile videos of body slams are quick and semi lethal. Do that to a person and you're going to jail probably, same as for ordinary fights if you couldn't frame it correctly...
>The reality is most fights end up in a tie, and if you can throw someone and punch them in the face while they're on the ground you have an advantage.
Everyone should train to be massive and throw people. Throwing people is hilarious.
>adding diamonds overlay to a murder footage
never change, Black folk
Why do people get in fights with bouncers? It's like they're looking to get their shit beat.
>Everyone should train to be massive and throw people. Throwing people is hilarious.
You should do hindu push ups and hindu squats as a warm up, they also teach you basic principles of wrestling "catching" a sprawl and pressing down to pin. Most you need for takedown defense. No drill "jab-cross, left upper, right upper." till you can flow them beautifully and fast also drill the speed bag form on the heavy bag, its useful to learn, its like the chain punch in wing chun.
I carry a gun now and it's crazy how powerful it makes you feel. I feel like a fricking God. Maybe I am God...
And this is how you get shot by a ghetto thug cuz you fricked with wrong one.
Black folk can't shoot
I can
Those apes shoot more often than you, good luck in the jungle kiddo.
Black person I am the top sniper in the entire United States Armed Forces. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
If you have just been hitting the heavy bag and doing nothing else then I bet you aren't punching well.
But maybe well enough to win a fight? idk.
Amateur boxer with a few won fights under his belt here.
1-2 years of casual boxing will put you ahead of 95% of people. Just mastering the jab and learning to control the distance makes you realize how bad people are at fighting.
All of that will mean jack shit in a real fight though if you don’t actually spar with people.
However, fighting on streets is absolutely stupid and I’m saying it as a person who is lucky to live in a country with a very low
criminal assault rates and where there are next to no guns or people carrying knives. I’m not even saying about getting stabbed or shot here. After knocking out a few people during sparrings and fights my biggest nightmare would be to KO someone and make him hit his head on concrete or some shit that would put me behind the bars. I try to avoid fights at any costs unless it’s absolutely unavoidable since then. If someone is not assaulting my family or gf I won’t get in it.
The good thing about learning boxing (but I think it applies to any martial art) is the confidence it gives you and clear headspace when the things are getting out of control. It’s enough to deescalate situation in most cases.
Thoughts on the Sanchin Kata, do you think this would be good complimentary training to boxing techniques even though its a Karate/Kung Fu kata? The idea is to master breathing and movement under tension to not be knocked around.
No idea what this thing is. The guy on the video looks like a total oddball though.
Its breathing kata that trains Vo2 max sort of and the fine motor control of the punching motion in combination. Think of it as a straight with an elbow driven backwards (basic Karate) the simple strike has three main uses: Pull, Punch, Strike with elbow.)
> trains Vo2 max sort
Why to do all these things from the video just to achieve this? Simply add running (a lot) to your routine. My coaches always used to say that in order to be a successful boxer you must become a semi-professional runner.
True, its the stability of the legs (see how he moves his feet in and out) though that matter in eastern arts, if you get rocked hard you'll be knocked out and out.
Also, running expands the energy from the heart which is not great according to eastern medicine, I think the basis is QiGong and Daoist medical practices. In QiGong the breath as shown in Sanchin promotes longevity, relaxation and control of the muscles through movement with least spend life force plus it benefits in that you don't use as many calories compared to running so you can do that longer. Its also great for building stronger joints and breath. There's the so called "Joint Change Classic" QiGong form (very ancient) that aims to improve your joint health as well.
Dude shut the frick up
You just mad that Karatekas beat your ass up in the past.
Noooo not my heckin bing bong ching chong!!!
>very ancient
It's a pseudepigraphical work from the 18th century based on Taoist writings from the 17th.
any good boxing gym will teach you one important lesson first. they knock you on your ass so you know how it feels because a bag cannot hit back
if you are a good boxing student, after 4-6 monthes, you learn to fear everyone.
you will learn this, when someone who is fifteen, and has been doing boxing for 2 years, smashes your ass.
I've been doing boxing for 4 months and to some extent your right, I'm 18 and joined boxing after 4 years of lifting(+ weighted calisthenics) and aside from people who are obvious physical outliers like me the average combat sport practitioner really doesn't look that threatening but when it's time to fight they'll most probably destroy you if you don't know what you're doing. But people who train a martial art are far and in-between and you can sometimes tell who trains and who doesn't when you get the chance to analyze people
Dunning Kruger affect TO THE MAX, I use to hit the heavy bag at this other guy's house and honestly for the most part it was a waste of time as I had no idea how generate power when punching. Join a boxing gym, you don't know enough to know how much you DONT know.
And as someone who has been boxing for 4 months no I can't just break someone's skull in seconds but I'm not losing a fist fight to someone less experienced or untrained
you beat me to it. There was a thread similar to this a couple days ago and its probably the samegay but holy fricking shit. Even if youre not aware of dunning kruger how moronic do you have to be to let pride take over on a whim. Same pool of people who walk into the gym after watching ippo and think theyre the next Tyson after 3 weeks of training
Im cringing so hard because in the first few weeks all I did was read Hajime no Ippo and yes I tried to emulate his style....horribly I might add. After putting points on the board during those 4 months though I stopped trying to go for that Mike Tyson shit and kinda just followed what worked for me and looked for boxers who used the same style. I must say although I have A LOT OF WORK, I can see the path even if just a little bit. Also Hajime no Ippo still goated even if it infested plenty of boxing gyms with weebs who think they already know everything
Glad you corrected. 100% agree on it being GOATED and actually admire how it garnered interest for the sport but yea people self insert a little too much. Also you've "read" not watched, very nicee
I cut a tire in half and nailed it to my garage wall, so I can punch it. I've been punching every other day for three weeks now. Now I'm in Jake Paul's dm's trying to get a match with him.
Up to now, I haven't thrown a punch at a human skull, much less his body, but I think I have knockout power because I punched a tire a lot.
I'm 6'1 and fat as frick. If I start judo, is there a good chance I'll be able to throw anyone my size and smaller pretty quickly?
I phrased that poorly. Anyone that is smaller than me and doesn't know how to fight. I would rather just toss someone on their ass to get them to frick off instead of actually fighting.
honestly judo is easier to pull of on fat tall dudes but i believe in you