So I was thinking about doing my first and god willing only cycle, with Ostarine. I need to break out of skinnyfatness as soon as possile. I'm almost 30 and have never managed to achieve any nice gains. I want to hear what you retards experienced during it, if you were shut down hard, and if you think it was worth it. Do you need bloodwork before and after?
Your a fucking lazy idiot, if you haven't achieved any nice gains u need to fix your training and diet before chemically fucking yourself
So what? Dont u think it would be better to start taking ostarine if you new it was gonna make a difference? If you cant make a difference naturally your just gonna fuck yourself chemically for a small amount of gains? Go ahead retard
OP probably eats fast food and drinks beer or is eating 900cal a day of chicken and broccoli
>So I was thinking about doing my first and god willing only cycle, with Ostarine.
Retarded for multiple reasons
kek it won't do shit if you can't gitgud without it retard
dyel8 you soon-to-be chud
Back in 2015 when I was literally DYEL and didn't even have a gym membership or know anything about anabolics and read some shit on a broscience facebook page about SARMs, I ordered a bottle of Ostarine pills.
I didn't even lift properly whilst I was taking the tablets, and I might have gained 1kg or so of muscle within 8 weeks.
My sex drive absolutely crashed and I developed a bald patch in my beard which took over a year to fill back in. I didn't even know what PCT was.
I've been natty ever since then and have gained +10kg by just eating and lifting.
Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weights
Why would anyone wanna be a bodybuilder, I just want some muscle without financially and spiritually destroying myself
Bodybuilding is nothing to do with heavy ass weight, look at ronald vs who he competed against now. Hes a cripple and they are all fine.
To elaborate, I work heavy manual labour and I have a newborn at home. Whenever I workout I just cannot get to 100% as I am tired, and when, as now, I have a good system in place, my left scapular muscles get overworked and in pain, as I have a damage on the right scapular retraction system. I do not have the time to spend ages in physical therapy either.
im against steroids
but if youre going to go on PEDs anyways
just pin actual gear u fucking idiot moron lmfao
Because SARMS don't work and test is king anyway.
Plus, you need to do a little more research for test than following a tiktak link which makes you less likely to fuck yourself over in the long run by absorbing at least a little common sense and education through osmosis if nothing else.
IST still seethes about sarms? wow these fucking people are pussies
What is it about SARMs that makes people want to take the ones that don't work?
Ostarine is shit, no gains with big shutdown and bad cardio effects. Mk-677 or whatever isn't even anabolic. It does literally nothing. But these two are the ones that every kid wants to try.
>I'm almost 30 and have never managed to achieve any nice gains.
OP, if you can't make gains natty, you will not make gains on ostarine. Plain and simple.
>Do you need bloodwork before and after?
Any time you're fucking with your hormones, it is a good idea to get tested before and after to make sure you successfully return to baseline.
>I want to hear what you retards experienced during it, if you were shut down hard, and if you think it was worth it.
I did Rad-140 for 8 weeks. I liked it, the gains came faster than natty. There were sides of course. I was suppressed by the end of it so I experienced symptoms of low e2. Lethargy, dry joints, etc. Did Nolva for PCT and hormones returned to baseline after 4 weeks.
What can I say, the gains were fun, the sides were not. I haven't done it again since.
I think my reason why I was oogling Ostarine was because it is supposedly easy on the side effects, cheap and oral. I hear what you say, what I was thinking was that on Wikipedia it says " In 2018, analysis of a fatberg from a sewer in central London showed ostarine to be the most abundant pharmaceutical drug detected, and was present at higher concentration than recreational drugs such as MDMA and cocaine" if that many people are taking it, it should have an effect?
The gains thing is more like, I do get gains but not fast enough before I get another scapula injury and then I can't workout properly for a week plus. It is a motivational nightmare that has haunted my ever since I paralyzed some retarded muscle in my right scapula
I will absolutely buy a PCT. Do you think I should still pay for the bloodwork?
Did you get to keep your gains?
Thank you for your serious reply
>buy a PCT
You're fucktarded. Go to /r/steroids and/or /fraud/ every day for a month before touching this, or any other, shit.
To learn why you are an idiot and hopefully come away with a logical gains plan that isn't pointlessly self-destructive.
Just say that instead of telling me to go on R*ddit, why do you think I made this thread? Is it that its completely unnecessary to add the PCT, an extra chemical, when my body might jump back by itself?
Yeah I did martial arts and that was great until I disslocated a joint. I want to get back to it eventually. I don't need socials and qt's I've got that covered, and yeah the 10 years from now thing is what's scary, that's why I want the mild shit.
, but he is right.
you show that you don't know what PCT is.
Tell me what it stands for, and I'll tell you why you're a fucktard who shouldn't touch anything stronger than creatine.
Post cycle therapy?
These aren't my words, they shoot T constantly and then add Var or Win or Dbol to that compound.
Yes. It's not
>an extra drug
It's a 3-6 month course that involves:
>gym training alterations
You don't buy "it".
Do some more research, fucking /r/steroids takes you through the whole thing holding you by the fucking hand.
>what they told me
They're either taking the piss out of you, or (barely) functionally retarded. Either way: don't listen to them. Test is, and always has been, king. And safe.
Dip into /fraud/ and ask why SARMS are retarded and they'll give you a full answer.
I am dead serious when I tell you one of them just slapped Clomid or Nolvadex on it and went off. And they generally seem only inclined to help me make gains.
I don't have a Reddit account, and /fraud/ sucks ass hard, is there some other good source of info?
If there is, I don't know what it is.
I'm not suggesting you sign-up to plebbit.
Just use their wiki, you don't need an account.
Ignore their dosing for testosterone et al, just use their PCT as Gospel (by and large), everything else use exclusively as a starting point for more research.
/fraud/'s 90% ass, 10%life(quality)saving info. That's why I said go there for a month, not a one-off trip.
Nolvadex is is meant to be used for 1-3 months PCTing depending on your blood test results. Along with exemestane to keep your e2 in check.
>6months of 500mg testosterone
>PCT or cut down to 150-250mg for 6 months
You won't blow up like Arnold, but you'll look better, feel better and lift heavier. Eat and train properly too.
Avoid SARMS like the plague, there's a reason taktok is shilling them.
Again and despite the earlier argument, thank you for your serious responses, I will look into it
You're welcome anon, good luck.
I was only abrasive because I care about your health and success.
>it is supposedly easy on the side effects
It is not.
>I do get gains but not fast enough before I get another scapula injury and then I can't workout properly for a week plus
SARMs or steroids will not prevent you from injuring yourself. You'll end up getting hurt and not working out, only this time your hormones are out of whack. This is why people say to have your shit together before you cycle.
>I will absolutely buy a PCT. Do you think I should still pay for the bloodwork?
Yes. It's important to know what your baseline is and to make sure you get back to it. People really should be getting tested regularly already, but especially if you're messing with your body on purpose.
>Did you get to keep your gains?
yes, I didn't get anywhere that couldn't have been achieved natty, so I kept it. I just got there faster. PCT is important for keeping gains because you want to get your natural production back up as fast as possible. Prolonged suppression will evaporate your gains and make you feel like shit.
I really cannot explain how bad it feels to have low T and e2. That's why people do a test base or even dbol. I've heard of people having luck using a SERM during their SARM run to mitigate sides, but that's not what I did so I can't speak to it's effectiveness.
imagine ruining your body becuase u lift like shit.
Just lift and enjoy the ride bro wagmi
I did enjoy it, not anymore though. I feel like I need to get fit so I can maintain it and no longer strive for that stuff, I have other shit to focus on.
I was wanting to take T earlier, it just seems like a waste of time considering it's effetcts according to the roiders I know (that don't take SARMS). They basically just use it to make sure they have t, and yes ofcourse an abundance of it, whilst they hit stronger compunds. They reocomended Anavar, but isn't that quite a bit stronger than Ostarine?
start any sport or activity that phisically challenges you, i do crossfit and its hard as shit if you find a good coach, also good for socials and qts
or dont and roid idk thats up to you, but think about yourself in 10 years and how it will affect you
>testosterone isn't strong enough
>anavar is too strong
I now know this is a bait thread.
Why did I bite?
>So I was thinking about doing my first and god willing only cycle
no green arrow therefore you look like that
i did my first cycle with ostarine. more gains than natty, but very little for anabolics. test is base, otherwise you just get some gains and stay almost same. whatever you do though, never give up. greetings from Polska
LOST YOUR GAINS
-Make sure to keep cycling or lose all your gains, chud.
how about cardarine