So it looks like I have the test levels (427 ng/dl) of an 80 year old man. What do I do?
So it looks like I have the test levels (427 ng/dl) of an 80 year old man. What do I do?
So it looks like I have the test levels (427 ng/dl) of an 80 year old man. What do I do?
TIME TO GO GILF HUNTING
What's your symptoms?
Permanently skinny fat
Post body
Turn your diet into one that consists of 90% grass fed beef, and start taking zma.
Simple as
lose the fat off retard
>Permanently skinny fat
So you don't lift and you only eat goyslop, and you're surprised that you have low test?
Start doing HIIT runs
this, though it doesn't seem to affect strength as badly as it does with hypertrophy
I was in the same situation as you a few years back, here are some things I did which I think helped:
>Did more squats
>Lost bodyfat
>25mg of Zinc supplements a day
>More vegetables (specifically broccoli)
>Vitamin C, D and Magnesium supplements
There's about a year and a half between these tests. Also, I improved my sleep quality - read Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker
what test is this?
exactly, op just wants a scapegoat for his failure. oh no i have 427 ng/dl therefore that is the reason why it is physically impossible for me to be anything but skinnyfat.
i had even lower test than him on my first bw and it went up by 250 ng/dl without fixing anything. both tests were taken at 7am. now before getting my third bw, im taking vitamins, fixing my diet and getting sleep. i should be able to boost it to ~800 ng/dl easily.
when someone has 3 consecutive readings of ~200ng/dl then i can accept blaming low test. but before that, fix your shit.
Get more sleep, eat more meat, supplement zinc, vitamin D and magnesium, lose fat to reduce estrogenic activity. If all of that doesn't work, start injecting HCG (NOT testosterone without HCG, because exogenous T shuts down endogenous testosterone production - something which isn't relevant for people who have a huge deficiency anyway, but extremely relevant for someone who only suffers from a slight deficiency like you). 100 iu a day should suffice.
Isn’t there a risk of becoming dependant on HGC if you it alone for extended time period?
time to transition anon
Eat pork
The nandrolone or some shit in there is literally /fraud/
How old? Do you smoke weed? Drink alcohol at all and how often? Eat shit processed foods?
>picrel me at 40 and fat (though have lost 33kg)
But I don't smoke weed and I do not drink alcohol and I eat lean meats etc.
>he doesn't know about intraday variation
test it a couple more times
How long should I wait before testing again?
long enough to implement this
permanently into your routine.
i'd say 1 month minimum just so everything has had time to kick in and reap the benefits. but yeah 1-3 month is fine.
Someone posted a graph but I don't have it, basically it swings wildly all day by hundreds of ng/dL, so you can test the next day and find a different result. or instance I got 688 one day and 556 the next, no reason, it's just not a very consistent measure.
this guy doesn't get it
this guy doesn't get it
you latched on an advice that had nothing to do with what you had in mind
testosterone reflects changes from all sources.
so it can't be tested once and just assumed it's that number.
not eating, eating too much, exercising, not exercising, not sleeping enough, sleeping too much, masturbating day before, not masturbating, everything you can imagine slightly changes testosterone and all of these things compounded cause rampart variations.
you just being stressed about having your testosterone tested is enough for extreme variations.
You should keep your schedule relatively normal the few days before the test and never have it tested at the same time of day. switch it up by a few hours if you can.
You take these measurements and average them out. Usually over a 6 month period.
For example i get blood test done every two months. So effectively 3 test per 6 month cycle. That's enough to determine a downward or upward trend in hormones or nutrition.
Lol, lmao even. Check my results, I'm 30 by the way.
I don't understand how mine is 970ng/dL when I am 40 and overweight. Guess a life of labour work and a lot of years training.
I also got tested 4 years ago and it was also low btw
what test is this?
Medichecks standard testosterone test. They're popular in the UK for roiders I think.
just wanted to replicate my post from >
to tell the fucker here >
that i'm 100% natty, but confess that the reason i got the test was to see if it'd be excusable to jump on TRT
just got my results this weekend, - 32nmol/L since apparently you yanks have yet another retarded measurement system and need it converting into ng/dL
The conversion factors are: 1 nmol/litre = 28.85 ng/dL.
so my level is 923.2 - according to the paper i read, this is over 2 standard deviations above average, so the equivalent to being about 6'5 in male height
32yo male
test is done in the morning, fasted (apparently levels drop about 25% by 9pm)
to answer OP, here's the things i do:
- daily IF
- daily coffee (trying to cut back though)
- try to get good sleep
- avoid masturbation
- supplement vit D
- have low bf (~15%, working on lower)
- lift
- do yoga (relaxation good for test)
that's good but was it lower at any point?
it's great if you do all these and so on but did you have hypogonadism and then started implementing these and boosted it naturally to 32 or is that just what you had? this is genuinely one of those "muh genetics" things. some people will naturally be in the upper range just by default, without minmaxing their life.
i actually advised op to do the same because i think he is just scapegoating low test even though he is skinnyfag, doesn't train, doesn't eat right, is depressed, shit sleep etc. so i do believe he can fix it but i don't believe that everyone can just naturally be at 900-1000 ng/dl like it's their free will. despite optimizing everything he may never be above 500ng/dl.
that said it most likely doesnt matter because his problems are mainly in his head and that level of test is enough to get your dick hard. if not you may be diabetic, high blood pressure etc. not low test
i wish i tested before i started doing these things, i was in a relationship and let myself go, stopped going to the gym (even my shitty dumbbell routine), got fatter, sex w gf declined, i didn't ever feel like doing anything adventurous, we broke up etc
it feels like this was a "low test spiral" - i did nothing with my life over the pandemic years except work, eat and play video games, which kept me psychologically trapped in that cycle right up until the breakup, which i used as fuel to fix everything (and we got back together, most definitely as a direct consequence)
another thing i forgot to mention is i eat a high protein diet (which is obvious for lifting's sake) - i think carbs lower test, but it's a suHispanicion
i am really curious whether what you say is true, whether any man can get to the upper bound of normal. i believe that at least, my test must have been really low and is now high
i also suspect that some test kits don't advise fasting and taking the blood sample in the morning, i used a superdrug one
OP here, I sleep 7-8 hours a night, I don't drink alcohol, I track my macros everyday (but have only been lifting for 3 months after several years off).
I'm going to get another test in 6 months and if it's still low I'll look into getting TRT privately.
what's your:
BF%
coffee intake
protein intake
carb intake
meat intake
Bf% percentage is probably around 16%
I've never drank coffee
Protein is 130g per day (I weigh 150lbs)
Carbs around 330g
I eat chicken every other day and beef maybe once per week. I used to eat a lot more meat but my test was still low.
kek nonceland is a funny place
Why is that funny
lol'd but i think it means free as 'free floating in your blood at the time of the test', maybe there's a more specific medical definition
I wanna get mine tested but im scared, is it free in germany?
i have normal testosterone (32 years old, 600-700) but very high shbg (over ref range)
some ideas?
Take saw palmetto, it lowers SHBG and will give you more free test.
OP here. If I get it tested a few more times and it's still low should I explore TRT?