spec ops guys are overhyped for their fitness?

Especially in america they are seen like superheroes. Above professional athletes on their physical and mental strength. But they are just regular guys. The people who are actually impressive are pro athletes in sports that are heavily populated. Things like soccer, football, basketball, track. Things that are generally participated in not niche sports that if you devote enough time to it you’ll probably do well. The people who succeed at these are very impressive. The amount of people they had to be better than is a lot. And they had to start at an early age to make it to pro. Not like with spec ops guys who start learning their job in their early 20s. The journey to become a professional athlete is far li BFF and more grueling than buds could ever be. And anyway the guys who become spec ops are usually those who somewhere along the way couldnt make it to the next level in the sport they liked. There’s only like one guy who was a pro nfl player who decided to go spec ops. So spec ops is basically the backup plan for a lot of athletes who won’t be able to make it I’m either in college or pro.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Terrible post. Just truly awful.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      post body

      >t. bud/s and collegiate washout
      sad

      Holy seethe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      can't believe anyone read past
      >The people who are actually impressive are pro athletes in sports that are heavily populated
      and actually took the bait

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The military is just an extended welfare program, kid.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    post body

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >t. bud/s and collegiate washout
    sad

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One of the best pro athletes in the world, by your metrics

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The journey to become a professional basketball player is incredibly hard. It’s a journey that takes years. To be better than nearly everyone for years. That is far harder than any spec ops program.

      Take deltas or SAS selection. The long walk. It’s about rucking for long periods of time. Any pro endurance backpacking athlete would smooth right through it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the sof larpers would smooth right through

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Carrying heavy backpacks was a thing well before the SAS was a thing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >pro endurance backpacking athlete
            not a real thing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The journey to become a professional basketball player is incredibly hard. It’s a journey that takes years

        Mate we stopped shipping in black guys on boats years ago. Most of them are actually born here now

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hehe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Im not saying its not hard, im saying theyre both hard, and extremely different. Youd equally moronic saying kd could be a seal as saying a seal could be in the nba. Sports required a lot more skill and specialized fitness. But specops guys also need to be extremely fit in a different way, as well as extremely skilled in theyre niche arena.
        Guys in the nfl might be able to go through buds, but there are other skill based tests after first phase. In addition, anyone in the nfl or nba would probably fail out of buds simply because they know they have no reason to do it. Not having that mental driver is a huge component to passing buds

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only thing that you need to be a navy seal is to really really want to be one. It’s what buds is. It’s just a big suck fest and you only will want to keep going if being a navy seal is very important to you. Imagine if a buds event existed to be an nba player. Just suffer through it and then you’re a pro. Everyone would do it becuase being a pro is very appealing. It’s not like how the seals like to make it seem where it’s about discipline. It’s just about wanting to be a seal. Some crazy disciplined harvard med student won’t make it through buds not becuase he undisciplined but because he doesn’t want to be a navy seal very, he wanted to be a doctor.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thats correct, but that doesnt mean what you think it means. “Really wanting to be a navy seal” is the qualifying trait, but that being the requirement to pass buds does not mean it is trivial, nor does it mean everyone that simply wants to be a seal can be one. There are plenty of jacked and athletic people that want to be seals and fail out. “Really wanting to be a seal” just means “you have extreme willpower and physical ability to suffer through really hard shit” because you want to accomplish a goal. Simply saying any other highly successful person COULD be a seal if they wanted just because they were also successful in their field, but would fail buds just because “well i didnt actually care enough lol :^)” is both cope and fallacious
            I know multiple seals on team 6

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No my point is true. You can see this in various ways. The guy who’s a top academic but terribly out of shape. Or the athlete who never misses a day in the gym but skips all his homework. Both have discipline in what they like. Just because a guy could go through buds would not mean that it would be impossible for him to drop out of med school. I bet you there are plenty of seals who think of all the cool shot they will do after getting out but then they decide not to because it doesn’t seem worth it. That’s quitting right there. They think “oh I’m gonna go work at Goldman Sachs after I’m out and be a millionaire”. But instead they go become a cop instead on a swat team.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your argument is not specific to seals though, it applies to being best in class at literally anything. With that argument accepted, you still need to acknowledge that being a seal takes a certain blend of mental and physical tenacity and toughness that very few people on the planet can achieve
                You think nba and nfl players or endurance athletes could go through buds if they really wanted to. But endurance athletes couldnt pass the strength portions. Nba players are way, way too brittle for carrying boats, logs, or rucks. Nfl players would die on long runs. Basically the only athletes i can think cut out for buds off the rip are swimmers or sprinters
                Pro athletes are good at sports. Nba players are soft as baby shit dude, they dont even play every regular season game. Nfl players only play 17-21 games per season and the games are not very long

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Take a high class endurance athlete and give him a year to train for buds and he will demolish his entire class. It’s just common sense that there’s nothing special about spec ops guys. They are not the cream of the crop at anything. And when you read the books written by them which ive read a lot because inside to want to join the i litany, you see that they are generally just people who want to play cowboys with night vision goggles. They are guys who couldn’t become what they actually wanted and so their back up was spec ops. Whether it be wrestling or rugby it was a backup to that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Take a high class endurance athlete and give him a year to train for buds and he will demolish his entire class
                Sorry, wrong

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It’s about rucking for long periods of time
        You conveniently forget the part where you're sleep deprived, bruised from combat practice and do not get enough water. Also, you generally have to use a new pack that hasn't been broken in yet (supposedly, to reduce the risk of the pack failing - in truth, it's to make it less comfortable).
        It's less about physical endurance than mental endurance.

        Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say special forces are supermen. They aren't even the best at what they do - I've trained with some of them (off duty), and have seen a ~40 year old guy get knocked out by a 13 year old girl during a spar, for example.
        But thinking that some athlete who can't even tie his shoes without having five doctors and ten trainers tell him how to do it could compete with them is just moronic.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >But thinking that some athlete who can't even tie his shoes without having five doctors and ten trainers tell him how to do it could compete with them is just moronic.
          Larsen Jensen became a navy seal after he was done with his Olympic career. Tons of guys who are elite swimmers become navy seals. I believe there are several videos showing top tier athletes putting SOF guys to shame.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are any of those videos filmed in life or death scenarios or real life warzones?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You find some examples. You're the one who made the claim moron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No I'm not.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You claimed they couldn't compete. I gave you examples including a pampered Olympic swimmer. You moved the goal posts to life or death situations which we have no data on. You are moronic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No I didn't

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I believe there are several videos showing top tier athletes putting SOF guys to shame.
            shocking
            now let's watch these top tier athletes slot floppies

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >now let's watch these top tier athletes slot floppies
              I'm sure athletes could call in air support and run away.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm sure athletes could call in air support and run away
                watching the nfl, that's exactly what they do
                fricking butter fingers
                >muh gloves

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          how is this training effective at all? seems like guys would be hurt all the time while their cartilage evaporates.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is what happens because our current training philosophy comes from greatest generation boomers who had militant parents who themselves had militant parents because they were all fighting injuns in Kansas 140 years ago.
            This leads to training manuals talking about motivation, desire, drive, etc, rather than healthy and safe ways to train. American training quality is shit it takes the cream of the American youth, destroys their body, then tells them “you have to want it more than Abdul”
            It’s nonsense and we should purge 90% of our military leadership and destroy the absurd reverence for people like Chesty Puller, Bradley, and Patton.
            These people were moronic.
            They were based but they were moronic.

            Everything must be redone. We need a professional army. Right now we have a quasi mafia that relies on technology rather than soldier quality.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I forget if it was Louie or someone else talking about how the military didn't even have a top shelf weight training program and how they were getting everyone hurt rucking for miles for no reason. the training was absolutely moronic but top brass didn't want to hear it, even with proven studies. shocking military guys are morons. if we didn't have the money and the tech, we'd be totally fricked, and even with, we don't do shit other than bomb third worlds and still lose to rice farmers and goat herders.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is what happens when WWII becomes your mythology. Colonel Cornshucker ruins generation after generation because “it builds character” “you just have to want it more” “just ignore the pain fight through the pain”
                They keep trying to recreate Jackson’s foot cavalry or Marine Raiders and thinking that toughness somehow makes you bullet proof.
                Soldiers should be healthy and disciplined not “tough” whatever the hell that even means. Wanting something badly doesn’t mean anything at all. Having well drilled career soldiers whose bodily strength is retained into their 50s? That wins wars.
                This country is so over it’s not even a joke anymore.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I agree and it’s honestly really weird that the army that takes so much pride in their high tech weaponry doesn’t invest in state of the art training of their soldiers SF or not. And if it’s about „grit“ some insane ISIS suicide bomber surely has you beat if he’s willing to blow himself to pieces to hurt you, no amount of rucking is going to match that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >some insane ISIS suicide bomber
                Sometimes they aren't insane. Unfortunately some suicide bombers are forced into it with their families as hostages.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We did all kinds of fricking training. We did like a full 3 months of field shit, full weapons quals, and an NTC rotation prior to a 9 month deployment. This was as a regular leg infantry unit. Plus I personally also did Javelin class, advanced CLS, tactical site exploitation, and a language class. A month after we got back we went right into an EIB training cycle, then full platoon/company/battalion field exercises and a JRTC rotation. What the frick are you talking about?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What the frick are you talking about?
                you're communicating with a COD homosexual who larps on /k/
                >inb4 nuh uh
                ARMA then, same shit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The quality of training is very low. Good training is at least 2 years. Great training is six years.
                American jump, weapons, and technical classes are a few weeks to a few months.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Addendum. I understand the financial limitations of having guys who will probably never fire a rocket in their entire service fire potentially thousands of rockets over the course of a few years, but we should have career soldiers who are exceptionally good at their job who enlist for 40 year periods.
                We are an empire. It’s a crime we haven’t put together a professional Army.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I forget if it was Louie or someone else talking about how the military didn't even have a top shelf weight training program and how they were getting everyone hurt rucking for miles for no reason. the training was absolutely moronic but top brass didn't want to hear it, even with proven studies. shocking military guys are morons. if we didn't have the money and the tech, we'd be totally fricked, and even with, we don't do shit other than bomb third worlds and still lose to rice farmers and goat herders.

              USDOD largely sees SOF and Marines as ambulatory weapons platforms whose only job is to concentrate fires on designated targets in line with combined arms doctrine. >50% of modern field manuals are about the correct phrases and grammar to trigger the appropriate logistics responses in the giant military bureaucratic machine in a time-sensitive fashion.
              I haven't read the picrel book but the cover captures it perfectly. US keeps losing wars against barely literate guerrillas because they want the soldiers to be ninja turtles with no other ethos than gaining a place in the civic afterlife by having your remains treated like holy relics.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >how is this training effective at all? seems like guys would be hurt all the time while their cartilage evaporates.
            What I was talking about isn't training, but the entrance tests that other guy mentioned. Those are meant to put you through stress worse than what you'll face in combat. Training the strength and skills needed is easy compared to giving people that mental strength, so most of the selections focus on psychological test.

            Also, since that other anon replying to you claims this is a purely american thing: it's not. The guys I've trained with were mostly Germans, and it's the exact same thing with them. Until a few years ago, their selection also included white torture (slaps, cold water showers in autumn, waterboarding and unironically Rammstein music during "rest" hours), but that got canceled when word got out.

            One of my aquaintances described it as similar to cleaning a wound: you know it's painful, and you just want o curl up and moving, but if you do that, things jsut get worse. So you need the self control to pull of the scabs and put the disinfectant in there - or the strength to keep marching for another day instead of letting yourself be taken prisoner.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It would be easier to just raise a specific subset of the population in pre-modern conditions than to try to demodernize modern men.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      6’11” and can move like a ballerina
      >not an amazing athlete

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All I know is I would beat the shit out of that guy easily. If you want to see some crazy shit why don't you any of you stop by my krav maga dojo. I got a brown belt that weighs 280 and can kick you in the head with both feet. West coast krav maga, let me know.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously someone like a pro climber, triathlete, or decathlete is more fit than a special ops soldier. The point of a special ops soldier is not to be fit, it's to kill enemies, sabotage infrastructure, train insurgents, scout the enemy, etc. Any time you have skills to train, your time is diluted from training and recovering from pure fitness.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they are good dealing with stress, know how to shoot well and have a variety of skills and knowledge on their craft, spec ops aren't supposed to be super men on a physical level I think, but above average

      They have skills just like a police or firefighter. But people hype them up to be like Jason Bourne. There is really nothing special about them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They have skills just like a police or firefighter. But people hype them up to be like Jason Bourne. There is really nothing special about them.
        Being a generalist is a pretty unique and respectable skill. It is easy to find guys who can ruck for 50 miles. It is harder to find guys who can ruck for 50 miles, keep composure while being fired at in night time, identify guns by their firing sounds, know alpine rigging and climbing, and speak 3 different foreign languages fluently/chrismatically.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You have a lot of assumptions that navy seals are being taught foreign languages and that somehow buds can make someone immune to the stresses of war. I read Chris kyles book and he mentioned how there would be seals who would cower in gear in firefights.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It depends on the special forces group. I was thinking of SAD (CIA special forces) when writing that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >buds can make someone immune to the stresses of war.
            I think the point of buds is to try to select guys who are less likely to cower. Getting shot at irl is going to shock the system in a way having David Goggins yelling in your face about logs or whatever can't fully replicate.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they are good dealing with stress, know how to shoot well and have a variety of skills and knowledge on their craft, spec ops aren't supposed to be super men on a physical level I think, but above average

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah it's over-hyped a bit. They aren't looking for athletes at the top of their game they're looking for guys who will be good at the kind of missions they do. So yeah you have to be fit but they care more about grit and calm under pressure. So I think the ideal SOF guy is one that doesn't ever quit and will keep going when things seem hopeless. That said a lot of them sorta fall off after they make the cut.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a lot of SF guys were probably great cross-country runners in high school
    cardio >>>>>>>>> raw strength for their purposes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True. Even a mid cross country athlete btfos most of the cardio challenges in any military test.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Endurance has always been more important for military. Big strong warriors full of muscle was a thing that only made sense if they were defined in their keep. But going on long marches it doesn’t work.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Endurance has always been more important for military. Big strong warriors full of muscle was a thing that only made sense if they were defined in their keep. But going on long marches it doesn’t work.

      wrong

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I worked at one of the units at bragg. The amount of conditioning these guys do is no joke. A lot of running, rucking, swimming, power lifting, cross fit minus the gay shit (so essentially power lifting). They have dedicated teams full of trainers, physical therapists and dietitians. Outside of the stuff that goes on at work, they all have some other fitness related interest like trail riding, rock climbing, mma/boxing, triathlons, etc. If you’re not staying fit, you’re a shitbag and a liability.

    They’re all also pretty much all mentally fricked and just want to kill the browns so I’m sure a lot of the exercising is an escape that is close enough to a bullet but not quite, but also sometimes happens.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. I washed out of combat control (fuggin migraines) and the conditioning they had us do was insane. My resting heart rate hovered around 40. After 9 or 10 months I could literally swim, run, and lift all damn day.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hopefully mom was nice to you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I love my mom 🙂

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Almost all the SF guys I saw in Afghanistan were fat. Not everyone is on some team kicking down doors. I was part of a PSD for a guy who had 2 knee replacements. Dude could still keep up but he wasn’t some elite athlete. Literally all this dude did was get taken places and make promises he couldn’t keep in exchange for information.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Not everyone is on some team kicking down doors.
        I was glorified Uber for team guys. they all complained about how they are under utilized. 3 years of non stop training to deploy and still never fire their weapon besides the range. they just keep going to various schooling (like combat horesback riding) because they have nothing else to do. all the ops are given to devgru and the like
        I also got to the war too late. all the good action was dead and gone when I showed up to my squadron. what a waste

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    An average D3 track athlete could probably outrun Messi. But the point of soccer isn't to be fit either, it's to score goals.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Messi was actually incredibly fast in his prime

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >shoot guns
    >have a desire to kill
    >excellent cardio
    >above average strength
    >mental fortitude to ensure all the above is accomplished
    that simple m8y

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mental fortitude? You do realize that the suicide rate for former spec ops guys is really high, right? They are all basically alcoholics and drug addicts after getting out. How is that a sign of mental fortitude?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that they still possess the desire to kill

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who doesn't?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So do 12 year old blacks.
          The heckin will to kill is not some mysterious thing. It’s inborn. In everyone. In fact there are particular genes which amplify it.
          Americans aren’t going to like this but Americans have this gene at a very low rate. Slavs and Germans have it at a very high rate, Finns have one of the highest concentrations with basically every Finnish male having anti-social personality “disorder” when questioned on the ethics of killing men.
          It’s not like hunting. It is entirely different. It is just so alien to Americans they think it’s magic. This is why cartels will run circles around us until we actually become a militant race like the Germans or Russians or Finns.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            aren’t most of the whites in the US ethnic Germans

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Most of the Whites who enlist are from Anglo States and overwhelmingly from the South.
              America needs to Balkanize so the Germans can beat the shit out of the Anglos and toughen everyone up. Then we can reconvene the nation when we the soft baby headed West Europeans have been removed and replaced by thick skulled robust Germans.
              Otherwise the White race will vanish in the west.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All the germans in america are dumb fat midwesterners. The backbone of america is and always has been the ulster scots (whom still make up the majority of white recruits) with a WASPy leadership caste.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Germans have it a high rate
            And that’s why they’re sitting by allowing their country to turn into a worse version of America right now right? That’s why post WWII theyve become super inclusive and woke and shameful towards anyone who is intolerant of other people right? That’s why they let their leaders offer “refuge” to African migrants who hate you people and your land and shit up the place, right? That’s why Germans just sit by and do nothing because they value looking like good people vs doing what’s right, right? Maybe Germanic people a few hundred or a thousand years ago, but Germans today are soft as hell. FFS they get arrested over verbal antisemitism but Bimbwe amlioqwe will assault native German women and throw his bottle in the street and claim he hates your country and the food and spit on your flag and no one bats an eye, MAYBE the cops come intervene if one German decides to tell him to stop and wind up being the one arrested. Not being a dick dude, nor am I at any point claiming america is too different, but be realistic about what you’re saying.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Germans had a chimpout with more BVLL energy than every American war combined.
              The Americans gave up their country without a fight. The Germans had to be defeated, twice.
              American children were marched to school at bayonet point during desegregation.
              Americans did nothing
              America is being invaded and Americans are a minority in America
              AMERICANS DID NOTHING

              Germany at least bloodied half the planet when ZOG when came to town.
              Americans were the hand of ZOG.
              We’re still the hand of ZOG.

              Also nothing you said even matters. The data is the data. Germans have a 7x higher rate of the MAOA gene compared to Americans and Slavs have it at 15x the rate of Americans, Finns have it at 50x the rate of Americans.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                homie you’re missing the point you’re either a moronic child larping as muh great aryan blood or being willfully ignorant. Doesn’t fricking matter what happened in the past doesn’t matter if it happened two times or twenty. I will say it again.
                Post WWII they have grown soft. They are no different than Americans right now. They stand by and watch. At best you get a German over the age of 45 who speaks up or calls the minorities out and they end up being the one in trouble. Americans at least have their freedom of speech. Germans can’t even fish without a license without going to jail. Inb4 you need one in America too, nah you get a warning and that’s it if you’re harvesting it gets confiscated and if it’s out of season or size you get fined while a German will actually get arrested for it. They’re cucked beyond belief. Since you’re having trouble setting aside your personal emotions look at how Canada has been recently. That’s the same shit going on in Germany.
                What you have attempted to say is the same as if someone says “okay so what if he’s 80 years old and in a wheelchair with CTE, 60 years ago he was a good boxer so he can still beat anyone right now”

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No you’re missing his point moron. They have the warrior gene. You wouldn’t understand how great of a warrior you have to be to stand by and watch some Black person assault your elderly citizens and rape your women and do nothing about it. A true warrior doesn’t need violence. He only needs a chair in the corner of a dimly lit hotel

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Germans are a disarmed people and actively suppressed by a foreign army, yet they have more political violence and political prisoners than the United States both objectively and per capita.
                America is a fake country that is being used like a prostitute. Our people are prostituted for their labor and all the generations of bloodshed and struggle to make this country possible was in vain if it is even remembered at all.
                The Germans know this.
                The Germans understand the mass slaughter of their people during the 30 years vindicates the mass slaughter of Poles in WWII.
                The Germans do not ask themselves in the moment disconnected from history.
                They ask themselves “in the Past Poles slaughtered us, now we can return the favor, to whom the does the future belong to Poland or to the German people?”
                American will never ever ask themselves to whom does the future belong because Americans live in the ever present moment because they are a people without a history.

                I say this as someone who’s ancestors were here in 1600s.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Germany has been under active occupation for 78 years lmao.
                America has never even had a foreign army invade in the last 200 years and the last foreign army that did invade us (Canada) burned our capitol to the ground and beat the shit out of us at Queenstown heights.
                There’s no comparison.
                America has always been a liberal shithole with no history or culture and Anglo culture is the worst cultural bedrock a nation can have as it’s extremely individualistic and naive. Anglo culture is the female of culture and Americans are cultural hermaphrodites.
                Germany today is not pacified and multiple purges of their army have taken place over the years with the most recent one being in the last decade where German special forces were (allegedly) plotting to overthrow their government.
                How many fricking Luttrel cowards or Zogo Shillink Seal Team 69 do you know that planned or even want to overthrow the government?
                NONE ZERO. And our government is literally run by a foreign and hostile elite while the German government is literally just German shitlibs.
                Germans TODAY while still having American garrisons prepare military coups against German statesmen.
                Americans, totally free, all the guns in the world, openly and proudly declare their love and devotion for a foreign parasite that is raping them to death.

                You are a dumb patriotard one terminal cope because you can’t come to grips with the fact American exceptionalism is a sham to blind you to your own land and people being exploited and liquidated.

                We are a country of human batteries for israeli power.

                If that boxer has a son those sons are going to carry on his legacy and inherit his BVLL energy.
                Thus why we see Germans, who should be the weakest all Westerners, being the most militant in the face of a repression Americans haven’t even seen, going back to the Bronze Age Americans (their Anglo ancestors) do not know what repression is.
                29 miles of water caused an insular degeneration to occur.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Slavs have it at 15x the rate of Americans
                Source on that? because while it's been a while since I read studies on the subject, from what I remember, Germans had the highest in europe, with eastern Germans (in other words, the ones living in "slavic" countries) having the highest rates measured.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Germans had a chimpout with more BVLL energy than every American war combined.
                >let a guy with 30% popular support completely transform and control your country for about 20 years
                >try multiple times to kill him and fail
                >engage in futile wars of aggression and kill millions of your own civillians for dissent
                >somehow this is laudable

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Irony is if you read hitlers second book he spends it basically saying anglo-americans are the ubermensch master-race (not germans, who he thought were a decayed people) and if we don't create a europan superstate america will take over the world. I always remember that and laugh when I see self hating americans bring up nazi germany or some shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Germany recovered from Versailles
                The war had become inevitable after Untermeyers 34 Paris summit and if not that then Stalins 39 speech about Revolutionary conquest to the borders of Peter The Great.
                Hitler was the greatest man of that era.

                All the germans in america are dumb fat midwesterners. The backbone of america is and always has been the ulster scots (whom still make up the majority of white recruits) with a WASPy leadership caste.

                The dumbest fattest people are in the South.
                Southerns are also turbo goyim like their kin back in Ingerlum
                I like the South but they aren’t on the same level as the Germans.
                The backbone of America is the South? explains our string of humiliating defeats.
                We lose to goat herders. Germany loses to 85% of the planet.

                We’re also getting exposed in Ukraine for having high tech barely functional weaponry while German guns made in 1955 are in high demand by the Ukroid army.

                Our tech was specifically developed to fight the USSR on the European plain, Germany was just building stuff that works. Our stuff isn’t even good at its job while German gear is in high demand.
                America is not a warrior nation. We are a frontier nation. our ancestors living in England never civilized the Welsh or the Scots or the Irish and border raids persisted into the 1800s.
                Red injuns went extinct before The British isles saw an end to frontier culture. This has been going on since the Bronze Age.

                We are good at war. We are good at raiding cattle and skirmishing.

                Irony is if you read hitlers second book he spends it basically saying anglo-americans are the ubermensch master-race (not germans, who he thought were a decayed people) and if we don't create a europan superstate america will take over the world. I always remember that and laugh when I see self hating americans bring up nazi germany or some shit.

                He didn’t say they were a master race he said they were a European people numerous enough to take over the world and this was critical in the plot of israeli dominion as israeli power in the Anglo world was then unquestionably legitimate and today it has become the state religion of the Anglo world

                Hitler was right. Hitler also said the final showdown of the human race will be between the hordes of Asia and ALL European people.
                This seems to be prophetic as the anti-Western Axis is basically all of Asia.
                I don’t know if we’ll win. But I would feel better if Germans were leading the charge.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mental fortitude to pass the rigorous training and survive on the actual job. What happens after the tool is used doesn't matter to the owner does it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        imagine doing all that shit and then coming back to work at a fricking car dealership or something. You could be trying to get a moron to finance a piece of shit gay car with an ipad on the dash and a year ago on this day you were sprinting through a street in somalia carrying an m249 or some shit
        no wonder they kill themselves

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about, it's enough to get some normal guys to an hero so it must be 100x worse for these high speed guys

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >imagine doing all that shit and then coming back to work at a fricking car dealership or something

          >former green beret joins local small city PD
          >always on edge
          >buddies on force say he just wasn't right mentally
          >never warm or friendly to community
          >would open insult out of shape cops (based)
          >but anytime they had to go on a sketchy inner city call, everyone wanted him as there partner so they could ensure they'd go home safe to their families
          >one call they report to, thief is running down the street and shooting at cops and running through a crowd. GB shoots one in his shoulder which spun him around and put two in his chest and one to the dome for a full stop from 40m away. Call comes in over the radio about shots fired with the same calmness someone uses to talk about the current weather
          >after three years of being unable to transition to the small time lifestyle, went back to the desert to work for Blackwater

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kino

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I agree, this is kino
            I will probably be a civilian my whole life (also protip cops are civilians because they're not in the fricking MILITARY) but I hope to have at least one cool operator moment in my life

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure the failure rate in basic training is like 99% and that’s after filtering out fatties and other invalids so obviously they do have something special about them

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still won't die for Israel, sorry

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    went to a wedding where a few of the groomsmen had the tridents on their dress whites. they didnt look like giant beasts of dudes.. they looked like they could immediately run an ultramarathon with absolute composure

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The American special forces are truly badass. You wouldn't want to mess with them.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can’t join any cool shit in any branch. I’m color blind. It sucks. I’m instead joining the navy in an engineering rate and doing the minimum contract and then using every benefit available to me and the skills I’ll learn to increase my life. I’ll be able to save almost everything I make while in, if I’m lucky I’ll be sent somewhere cool and make the most of it. I’m going no where fast anyways may as well sacrifice 5 years. Go in, get skills, get some savings (if I advance to e5 by my last year I’ll have a little over $100k after taxes), get out, travel for a couple months, GI bill or whatever house buying assistance they offer, maybe take a mechanics apprenticeship maybe go to school, I’ll be doing okay. I’ll at least have a decent enough paying job I have actual interest in and my own place once I’m out. Probably won’t meet a woman but it’s not like that’s happening in my current circumstances anyways.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh but I always thought if I was gonna join the military I’d go for SWCC or sarc or seal or marine infantry or anything other than wrench turning ape or computer nerd. Oh well it is what it is I’ll make the most of it.
      Pretty gay my grandfather was able to be a fricking fighter pilot while having my same color blindness but I can’t do anything cool even limited with the engineering rates. Can’t even be nuke…

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >maybe take a mechanics apprenticeship maybe go to school
      You sound like one of those senior existed guys who say they originally planned to do 4 years and get out, but ended up sticking around for 20 years

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks for the moronic opinion, moron.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They hype it up to con dumb young guys into signing up to be trench meat/boy sex slave traffickers.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every Navy SEAL, Delta Squad guy, or whatever will tell you that the hardest part of training is the mental aspect. Anyone can be trained to do the physical aspect, but you have to be cut from a different cloth to have the psychological endurance to finish.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not to mention some luck. The injury rate in their training is pretty high. It’s a job that nearly guarantees you’ll be injured like a retired football player having issues even walking for long once you’re done, if you don’t die first. But damn it’s probably worth it not many can say they have

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is so moronic it’s not even funny.
      It’s not really mental. It’s physical. It’s mental for Americans who don’t spend 90% of their lives outside working.
      Physically capable washouts are because someone realized it wasn’t like Lone Survivor, not because they mentally broke.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no heckin way! Spec ops are not crazy fit and aesthetic???
    Only brain dead civilians who get all their knowledge about SOF from movies and video games are shocked by this revelation. They are experts at reconnaissance, battle tactics, and killing people. Everything else is in support of this and looking good does not matter at all. They only need to be in good enough shape to do their job.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spec OP forces exist for the same reason that Volkswagen makes Lamborghinis---to create an image that sells Lambo slop/branding. Analogously, spec OP forces create a brand for the military and incentive people to join. They don't actually do anything.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always find it funny how spec ops guys refer to themselves as the “tip of the spear”. As if they are somehow not just glorified swat teams. America has so many ultra high tech weaponry that spec ops are not nearly as useful as during the Cold War. For a warrior class they had an extremely brief shelf life. But there’s nothing new to replace gem with so the romanticism is still hyping them up as if in the age of super high tech warfare that guys with nvgs are somehow still important.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They don’t release their kills per death ratio any more because they began to have abysmal casualty rates. Their natural predator was two guys behind sandbags in opposing corners of a room. 1:1.5 casualty rating against sand people who have no formal training and who’s monetary investment is 12 dollars yearly.
        Five decades ago special operations were taking people out at a rate of 50:1.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are overhyped because American boomers want living heroes they can look to. ZOGops are glorified light infantry. They rely on technology and extensive support structures not fitness or durability.
    They are also culty in the wrong way. They think Elan is just “wanting it more” like if you “fight hard enough” you will win. This is such a poisonous and damaging view.
    America is not a militaristic nation nor does it produce good soldiers.

    Soldiery and warrior hood is not about “wanting to win” or whatever Marcus Luttrel (who ran away btw) claims. Soldiery is about organization and discipline two things Americans lack and their special operations lack it the most.

    I should be chief of the American armed forces. I could make our race proud and turn our country into something we can take pride in once again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing that "Special Ops" learn that make them a good tool is self-sufficency. You can throw them into an op and they are taught to survive and accomplish the goals with little reliance on the rest of the military structure. Useful for specific goals.. But Special Ops are extremely expensive and they don't tip a war on their own. For the cost of one special op soldiers, a former soviet state can manufacture 2k artillery rounds. Which one of those is going to really change the war?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I should be chief of the American armed forces. I could make our race proud and turn our country into something we can take pride in once again

      And yet here you are, shitposting on IST. Why? Because you can't do shit, and wont do shit either

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Track & Field, Myau Thai, Judo, Basketball, I would say it takes a lot of fricking skill, cardio and strength to be the greatest in those sports at a professional level if there's such a thing or even being at the top of the game. So you are sort of correct there, military guys are basically mid-top crossfit athletes who also play with guns.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I could easily be special ops if I was a gigaqueer megahomo.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        LMAO, well guess what? You are a giga queer megahomo, but youre still not special ops. Special needs maybe

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Younger/newer guys are all PT monsters. Older guys are all just slightly above average because they're busted.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't even strong even the ones that juice. How the frick are you special ops and an alcoholic can destroy you in an mma fight?

    >oh bro my gains, my gains are diminishing
    >no I'm not gonna eat that gotta be lean

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These days the best skill a specops member can have is the ability to blend in with the local population. If you're a jacked gymcel you're going to stand out too much.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most moronic shit I’ve ever read. Like 90% of these spec ops guys are fit middle aged white guys. Unless they’re going to be doing missions in like rural Missouri they’re not going to blend into the local population anywhere. Literally the only place this is even somewhat possible is Mexico.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron

      Not all spec ops teams select for the same things or train the same way because they have different jobs. The notion of fitness that you have in mind you’ll be most likely to find inside the SEAL teams and Ranger Battalion because of the nature of their typical mission sets but not elsewhere. The other units are much more about endurance. Even when it’s not running, it’s about endurance. Combat isn’t about a bench press or a sprint. It’s about taking a licking and getting up without sleep everyday and hauling gear day in, day in, for months or years. It’s a lot more like thru hiking than any sports event.

      stop posting

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's apple to oranges

    It takes innate talent and hard work to shoot as well as Stephen Curry. You can play as much as you want and you'll be skilled, but he has that magic you must be born with. However, that's just basketball and he probably wouldn't be anything special at another sport but that's fine because he's not paid to play soccer.

    Elite soldiers on the other hand have to be a jack of all trades. I've heard from many sources the thing that sets the successful ones apart is the willpower. Everyone who tries out for those tests is a PT stud who can run, ruck, and whatever but they give up when the suffering becomes too much. So the ones who make it are really just tough as shit dudes with insane determination but it's not like Stephen Curry where you have to be born with this rare raw talent. Technically anyone can do it but most just don't want it bad enough.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never understand that USA culture of worship of navy seal, special ops and those shit. Those guys its just a bunch of brainlets exposed to brainwash
    techniques for years to follow whatever orders politicians gave to them, it include arrest innocent people for critizing politicians in internet and closing christian churches.
    If you study books about psychology, brainwashing
    techniques, hypnosis, human psychological condictioning, you will see 90% of army and those guys everyday routines are doses of this things to erase their personality and critical thinking

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am never understand it too. USA is like a mad house with everyone having a gun and a car and trump.
      Here in my country we can never stop thinking about USA and everyone have an opinion on it. Actually I was just speaking my flat mates about how much I laugh at USA.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's unlikely your country will ever be talked about in the US.

        I never understand that USA culture of worship of navy seal, special ops and those shit. Those guys its just a bunch of brainlets exposed to brainwash
        techniques for years to follow whatever orders politicians gave to them, it include arrest innocent people for critizing politicians in internet and closing christian churches.
        If you study books about psychology, brainwashing
        techniques, hypnosis, human psychological condictioning, you will see 90% of army and those guys everyday routines are doses of this things to erase their personality and critical thinking

        It's a recruiting tool for the Navy. The Navy is not a sexy branch of the military so they use SEAL and Pilot jobs to lure people in. Marines do this same shit quite a bit. Army less so, and you will almost never see the Air force shilling pararescue or TACPs in popular culture nor whatever cool guy units the coast guard has.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >nor whatever cool guy units the coast guard has.
          Cause there are already plenty of people who want to join the comfy guard and chill out on the beachside bases while waiting to save a man overboard every so often.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >whatever cool guy units the coast guard has.
          They're all the cool guy units. They don't go overseas to shoot brown people, they only shoot actual bastards, and the hero worship is like firefighters on steroids for pulling drowning dumbasses out of the drink. If I got drafted, I'd probably be a coastie. Assuming I didn't frag the draft officer and go innawoods near DC.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >nor whatever cool guy units the coast guard has.
            Cause there are already plenty of people who want to join the comfy guard and chill out on the beachside bases while waiting to save a man overboard every so often.

            I wanna go coastie to stop minorities from breaking fishing laws.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >here in my country we can never stop thinking about USA
        That’s nice here in the USA we don’t think of you at all

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah we are too busy scowling at all the fat fricks walking around outside.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shut the frick up foreigners live rent free in our own country.
          The fact we don’t think about them is a problem.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Here in my country we can never stop thinking about USA
        I know

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Especially in america they are seen like superheroes
    Thats because of all the movies that glorify them. America is a war loving country, they need to brainwash and motivate the future generation of 90 IQ morons to join the army and go defend israeli interests
    They are just simple guns for hire, and rely on a frickton of technology and support by other services to get the job done.
    >Years of training and the best available equipment and cutting edge technology, drones, air strikes and whatever
    vs
    >Some Random homies/goatfrickers with a 50 year old AK47
    Woooow the superior military force lmao

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not all spec ops teams select for the same things or train the same way because they have different jobs. The notion of fitness that you have in mind you’ll be most likely to find inside the SEAL teams and Ranger Battalion because of the nature of their typical mission sets but not elsewhere. The other units are much more about endurance. Even when it’s not running, it’s about endurance. Combat isn’t about a bench press or a sprint. It’s about taking a licking and getting up without sleep everyday and hauling gear day in, day in, for months or years. It’s a lot more like thru hiking than any sports event.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh but on the point of about SEAL teams and Rangers. They’re more about quick hitter missions. They get in, kick in some doors with some marines, get out. That sort of mission set is much more amenable to strength, power, explosiveness, speed, the sort of things you associate with fitness.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The military doesn't care about efficiency, and that includes the exercise routines. The point of their exercise routines isn't to make them fit, it's torture disguised as exercise designed to make them obedient.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably true these days.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The necessary physical requirements for special forces are wildly overblown because governments have a vested interest in pushing propaganda to make their forces appear somehow super human and/or their citizenry much more physically capable of war than they really are. In reality the primary mission of every special forces group is far more mental:
    >green berets are primarily focused on learning languages and culture to properly train guerilla forces in other countries
    >pararescue are primarily focused on medical knowledge and intervention
    >force recon is primarily focused on land navigation and equipment identification

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The propaganda effect is more that it gives people the idea that it's possible to be a super solider so you should join the army. Since every country needs recruits rarely does anyone call bullshit on this idea.

      Really special forces are just infantry with a bit more training and given dirtier borderline terrorism stuff to do.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course there's some truth to this but on the other hand to succeed in a lot of top sports you need an abundance of certain specific talents. Messi has incredible ball handling skills but do you really think he has crazy abilities? Sports often test pretty niche abilities and favour people who hit puberty early, had supportive parents, got introduced at the right age etc.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    of course, but they've also got other training, like how to use guns and other equipment. being in shape is just part of the job.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You do know that there’s a statistic about a huge amount of athletes who go to BUD/s and fail? It’s dubbed the hardest special operation selection course in the world. We admire these guys for a reason. It’s so got damn hard that guys who DOR from this course end up going to other US military selection courses and pass. That’s how trained mentally and physically you have to be for BUD/s

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s so got damn hard that guys who DOR from this course end up going to other US military selection courses and pass.
      while the other 90% of the DORs go undesignated to chip paint like they deserve

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s so got damn hard that guys who DOR from this course end up going to other US military selection courses and pass.

      source?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Several podcast about guys ending up leaving and going to SF, or local SWAT teams. A few forums where there’s been a handful of dud3s who take the SARC or EOD route. It’s actually batshit crazy but I applaud those guys for still putting themselves into another suck fest because they couldn’t get rid of the itch.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Several podcast about guys ending up leaving and going to SF

          Can you post some?

          >or local SWAT teams

          SWAT teams are nowhere near as difficult to join than SOF.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There’s actually a special forces guy who wrote a book and talked about it on Jocko podcast. I don’t know what number it is. Just do a search on YT and google, you should find a couple. Not a lot though. I was infatuated and amazed with the statistics and the fate of these guys a couple years ago so I went on a research spree. Again it should not be hard. I don’t know if you’ll find many on forums anymore sharing their experience but I recall finding a few on reddit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              SF is in a completely different branch. They’re not going to let some training failure just opt into a new high speed training program in a different branch. Maybe some guys did it but this is a process that would take years and would be very exceptional.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                specifically regarding enlisted buds, if you drop/fail on good terms, there's an almost guarantee that they'll offer you eod, swcc, diver, or rescue swimmer. they know you have the medical and physical prereqs met, so it's an easy transfer
                (one of the guys I knew passed his bar exam prior to ship out, so when he dropped, they sent him to ocs to go jag)
                sometimes it's as simple as do your two years, wait your time, and then go crossbranch
                officer, it's more political and more has been invested for you to be there, typically, so they may and try and reroll you and mayyybe crossbranch
                the interservice transfers will get preferential treatment because it's almost recruiting for them in that regards
                >the guy that did 8 years force recon came here because we're the best
                but the cherry picked podcast guys that fail out then get a chance to go to q course or anything else, they're more than likely highly connected, and again, special treatment. their dad, uncles, brothers were all team guys, so they can't let little bro and the family name be tarnished, so they send him elsewhere
                it's like pro sports or family politicians - if you're embedded in the system, the system takes care of you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >source?
        I've seen them do it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They fail because they encounter something harder than highschool pre-season and more importantly it sets int that enlisting is not like being in a movie it’s like being a never ending highschool but without girls.
      Not because blowing things up underwater is objectively hard.
      As a selection course it’s objectively one of the easiest. Not comparable to previous systems in different eras.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >physical fitness?
    Absolutely
    >mental fitness?
    No. After a few cycles (I’m guessing the majority have used before at a minimum) the numbers are all pretty easy to me except maybe the swim I’ve never tried to swim 500 yards timed so I have no idea how hard that is. But the sleep deprivation stuff and the ways they test you mentally are impressive. Which is why plenty of guys who think they’re hot shit wash out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >500 yards timed
      quite literally the easiest and shortest distance in the entire training pipeline
      the whole purpose of the in-test is to auto DQ people who think "oh well, I'm IST I can do calisthenics for days" but as soon as they get in the water they sink. or they did pass, but now they're fatigued and cant complete the remaining exercises. and stops those people from wasting everyone's time so they can go find a new rate

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While you are correct, you're also b***hing about other men's fitness.
    Who gives a shit? Don't fall for the trap, don't worship the spec ops, and since you're at it don't worship the athletes either, they're hyper specialised and on gear anyway.
    Care about your own fitness instead.
    There, done.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You ok anon?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No. Here’s why you shouldn’t worship spec ops.
        Their country is being raped
        They do nothing
        Their people are being raped, literally.
        They do nothing
        They’re cowards who pick fights with those who can’t fight back and then kill themselves when someone does fight back and domes one of their friends.

        This may change in the future but as of right now 2024 the American serviceman is a subhuman and the cult of hero worship surrounding them is a humiliation ritual for American people and all Americans alive today are a stain on the legacy of their ancestors who themselves were unimpressive to begin with.

        I hate myself and this moronic slave country.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just acknowledging the truth makes one more courageous than the average S(q)EAL unironically.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The American servicemen uphold you standard of living more than anyone. Most Americans are completely oblivious to the fact that their standard of living currently is almost entirely due to America forcing up the value of the dollar as well as pushing trade deals through military force.

          America has long stopped producing anything of value

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I had this thought while living abroad. It seemed odd to me that the people I was around were smarter and harder working than the people back home but the people back home were making 2-3x as much money

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As someone who hates Americans, this anon actually has it right. Unironically thank your troops, because without dumping half your GDP into military and intelligence your country would be poorer than some third tier Slavic EU state. Its not going to last though, you're gonna get fricked in the drawn out conflict with China that's coming. Should have listened to Kissinger.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I hate myself and this moronic slave country.

          Stop living in your own head and realize there is a bigger picture. The media is amplifying people like you and making everyone go fricking schizo. You have no idea how good we have it here. If you want a change then be the change. I’ll leave you with that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How good we have it being replaced? Incel epidemic, inflation ensuring we own nothing, the psychological terrorization, the destruction of culture and amplification of ugliness, and the complete erasure of the actual America and its people by the regime skinsuiting America?
            >dude just topple the empire
            I thought THE HECKIN SEALS could do that? Guess not.

            The American servicemen uphold you standard of living more than anyone. Most Americans are completely oblivious to the fact that their standard of living currently is almost entirely due to America forcing up the value of the dollar as well as pushing trade deals through military force.

            America has long stopped producing anything of value

            Opposite. The petrodollar forces power singularity and gives ZOG the ability to destroy the nation. If foreign countries were actually a threat to us they wouldn’t be raping us. We would become strong by necessity and you know if we’re invaded the parasite would quickly find a new host and leave us behind.
            Then we could fix things
            >America has stopped producing anything of value
            And American servicemen facilitated this. They still facilitate this. Turning the planet into a protection racket which is now coming to bite us in the ass as we burn every diplomatic bridge we ever built.

            Not only that. What are they protecting? Are the Afghans going to tunnel into Texas and do a 9/11?
            Someone is tunneling into Texas and isn’t afghans.
            The American ZOGdog protects this. It protects the destruction of the American nation.

            You know in your heart if a subset of the military attempted to take power the vast majority of the military would see it as a point of patriotic pride they destroyed them and restored LAW AND ORDER so that America can continue degenerating into Brazil.

            As someone who hates Americans, this anon actually has it right. Unironically thank your troops, because without dumping half your GDP into military and intelligence your country would be poorer than some third tier Slavic EU state. Its not going to last though, you're gonna get fricked in the drawn out conflict with China that's coming. Should have listened to Kissinger.

            Would rather be poor and united standing with my own people than “wealthy” and isolated surrounded by foreigners.
            >should have listened
            Never.

            This country deserves what is coming to it. Prove me wrong. Show me Jocko and friends purging the CIA and liquidating every asset blackrock manages.
            It wont happen. Those vaunted patriots turned out to be nothing but idiots and plunderers whose greatest hits are fighting those who can not fight back.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Would rather be poor and united standing with my own people than “wealthy” and isolated surrounded by foreigners.
              Me too (euroc**t, but its largely exactly the same here except our military gets subsidized by ZOG/NATO), but there's nothing really to be done about that except becoming a refugee ourselves and seek out the most culturally homogeneous and conservative place that will still have us (China or Japan) and live there as permanent second class citizens.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Another nothing thread, well done OP.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're well rounded probably
    But many military guys are complete DYELs. My gym is located near a base and their lifts are pitiful

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you must thank us for doing something expected of all men in all times and all places
    Why?
    We don’t random mothers for giving birth which is a function more necessary than soldiery.
    Where were you when blackrock took over the treasury two years ago? Where are you now when millions of foreigners invade to plunder and rape - literally btw.
    That’s right. Not in your country earning a paycheck like the prostitute you are

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was on IST crying about it

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    spec op guys are only chosen for their skill and willingness to commit undercover war crimes

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