Do whatever. Both are safe. Whoever tells you ATG is bad is just a pussy egolifter chasing big numbers at the cost of a lot of ROM. I usually go below parallel, but not much more than that; otherwise, I tend to go too deep and pause there and it makes hard to track progress (since i will just go deeper and pause more as i get stronger)
The best cue I've ever gotten for squats was >bring your butt as close to your ankles as possible
Made my joints feel great and gave me a some of the deepest squats I've been able to do comfortably
Squat deep, it’s better growth stimulus. Squatting to parallel is just the bare minimum to count in powerlifting, dyels do it because they’re moronic
going parallel is only necessary if you're doing it for competition. you need a marking point that everyone can agree on is proper depth, regardless of body type. and if it's in competition, there's no reason to go lower because then you are exerting more effort for no gain
iirc, lower is better overall. but say you wanted to increase your vertical, doing quarter squats will help
So there isn't really any benefit to going parallel or slightly less other than vertical? I remember seeing that Tom Platz leg day video and he was talking about only going halfway or not all the way down, but I don't know if that's part of his form of training where he does really high volume. Have lost around 30lb but essentially brand new to lifting so just trying to figure out what's the right thing.
>So there isn't really any benefit to going parallel or slightly less other than vertical?
no no no. I'm saying: full ROM is overall superior for general physical preparedness (working more muscle groups, flexibility, etc), being anal about hitting parallel is only necessary for powerlifting, and dependent on your training goals, doing quarter squats can increase explosiveness (jumping) >essentially new to lifting
bro beans, just go for ATG, focus on proper breathing and bracing. once you get a feel for the bar and positioning, bracing, feet width, etc to where the squat becomes second nature, then worry about the minute differences/other training goals - my two cents
Do whatever. Both are safe. Whoever tells you ATG is bad is just a pussy egolifter chasing big numbers at the cost of a lot of ROM. I usually go below parallel, but not much more than that; otherwise, I tend to go too deep and pause there and it makes hard to track progress (since i will just go deeper and pause more as i get stronger)
The best cue I've ever gotten for squats was >bring your butt as close to your ankles as possible
Made my joints feel great and gave me a some of the deepest squats I've been able to do comfortably
Aim for ass to grass. Zercher or front squats are best for getting all the way down. I suggest you do your sets then immediately do leg presses. Yeah it will suck, but it blasts the shit out of your glutes and thighs
as deep as you can go without fricking up your form
if you just let the weight push you down into a position you couldnt normally reach, you will frick your shit up
Thanks, what are the benefits of grant squat versus back squat? Depth? Also sorry to spam but would you guys be able to form check? I felt like I could go deeper but I need to work on my breathing.
If you're a moron and don't care about being able to walk, go A2G.
Otherwise go parallel.
I kinda like the jello leg feeling so I'm fine with not walking.
as deep as you can go without fricking up your form
if you just let the weight push you down into a position you couldnt normally reach, you will frick your shit up
Aim for ass to grass. Zercher or front squats are best for getting all the way down. I suggest you do your sets then immediately do leg presses. Yeah it will suck, but it blasts the shit out of your glutes and thighs
as deep as you can go without fricking up your form
if you just let the weight push you down into a position you couldnt normally reach, you will frick your shit up
Unless you are powerlifting, the general rule is to go as deep as you can without compromising positioning. If the deepest you can go is parallel, go to parallel. Plenty of Olympic Weightlifters do so on backsquats. That being said, working towards a consistently better, and subsequently deeper, bottom position is desirable.
If you can go deep do it. If not, do it anyway. Or don't, doesn't bother me either way
thanks bros, ass to grass it is then
going parallel is only necessary if you're doing it for competition. you need a marking point that everyone can agree on is proper depth, regardless of body type. and if it's in competition, there's no reason to go lower because then you are exerting more effort for no gain
iirc, lower is better overall. but say you wanted to increase your vertical, doing quarter squats will help
So there isn't really any benefit to going parallel or slightly less other than vertical? I remember seeing that Tom Platz leg day video and he was talking about only going halfway or not all the way down, but I don't know if that's part of his form of training where he does really high volume. Have lost around 30lb but essentially brand new to lifting so just trying to figure out what's the right thing.
>So there isn't really any benefit to going parallel or slightly less other than vertical?
no no no. I'm saying: full ROM is overall superior for general physical preparedness (working more muscle groups, flexibility, etc), being anal about hitting parallel is only necessary for powerlifting, and dependent on your training goals, doing quarter squats can increase explosiveness (jumping)
>essentially new to lifting
bro beans, just go for ATG, focus on proper breathing and bracing. once you get a feel for the bar and positioning, bracing, feet width, etc to where the squat becomes second nature, then worry about the minute differences/other training goals - my two cents
Gotcha, thanks anon appreciate it.
whatever depth you're going, go lower homosexual
Will my squat plug fall out of I go too deep?
that's a sizing issue than a depth one
I have one of the new BowFlex adjustable ones you can just twist to increase diameter.
>boomers and their bowflex
it's all about rogue fitness now, old man
You may need a size bigger.
Do whatever. Both are safe. Whoever tells you ATG is bad is just a pussy egolifter chasing big numbers at the cost of a lot of ROM. I usually go below parallel, but not much more than that; otherwise, I tend to go too deep and pause there and it makes hard to track progress (since i will just go deeper and pause more as i get stronger)
The best cue I've ever gotten for squats was
>bring your butt as close to your ankles as possible
Made my joints feel great and gave me a some of the deepest squats I've been able to do comfortably
dicky!
Squat deep, it’s better growth stimulus. Squatting to parallel is just the bare minimum to count in powerlifting, dyels do it because they’re moronic
Aim for ass to grass. Zercher or front squats are best for getting all the way down. I suggest you do your sets then immediately do leg presses. Yeah it will suck, but it blasts the shit out of your glutes and thighs
t. trainer
Thanks, what are the benefits of grant squat versus back squat? Depth? Also sorry to spam but would you guys be able to form check? I felt like I could go deeper but I need to work on my breathing.
I kinda like the jello leg feeling so I'm fine with not walking.
I'm moronic and forgot vid
as deep as you can go without fricking up your form
if you just let the weight push you down into a position you couldnt normally reach, you will frick your shit up
If you're a moron and don't care about being able to walk, go A2G.
Otherwise go parallel.
Unless you are powerlifting, the general rule is to go as deep as you can without compromising positioning. If the deepest you can go is parallel, go to parallel. Plenty of Olympic Weightlifters do so on backsquats. That being said, working towards a consistently better, and subsequently deeper, bottom position is desirable.