Squatting is masochistic form of self-torture.

Squatting is masochistic form of self-torture. It is by far my most advanced lift and all I have to show for it are comically disproportionate legs. Convince me why I shouldn't drop the exercise all together.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Squatting is easy. Race the mile or 800m if you want to feel pain, boy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek, you wouldn't say this if you'd ever actually squatted heavy, or, high reps well beyond what you thought you could.
      Squat 315x20+ reps or 500+ lbs. and get back to me when you know what pain is.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        t

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cherry picking.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cherry picking.

          legs are not his issue it's the lack of any yoke at all

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your yoke is a joke bloke

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what

              outschizo the schizo
              always a bigger fish

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its not the squatting he does, its everything else that he does on "leg day" because he's a le bodybuilder

          every single weightlifter out there squats day and night and they have very well defined legs but never as crazy large as these because they don't bother with all the extra shit like bodybuilders do

          tldr squatting's good for you do it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >satyr mode activated

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Corny ass gymcel moment
        I ran the 800 in track in college and it is a million times worse than squatting down a couple times

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      running definitely sucks but it is an entirely different, far more manageable kind of pain. Squatting heavy is like the closest feeling to dying I've ever come, and I do it on a weekly fricking basis.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >running definitely sucks
        Feels great after the first half hour

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its so fricking over

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wake up babe new pantyboy just dropped

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    t. Chicken legs running a demoralization campaign to cope

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chances are, OP, you're a posterior dominant squatter like I am. I've squatted 550 raw and beltless in my peak days, and even then, my legs were only big because I had been doing high bar narrow stance for a few years prior. My legs were bigger when I maxed at 440 than 550 because of the change of what drives the squat when I refined my technie to move the most weight.
    The answers?
    1. Maybe move to deep front squats for a while, or
    2. Lower the weight if need be, get some squat shoes (or, squat with heels on a wedge or plates for more forward knee drive), try to make sure you're going high bar, go DEEP, let the knees go forward as much as they like, and you'll see things happen.
    I've always envied guys who have great squat anatomy, as once I changed to low bar / posterior focus, I've never been able to squat high bar the same as my flexibility just isn't there anymore. So, to rebuild quad size now, after regular squatting, I do 3-4 sets of belt squats standing on 20 degree wedges and either 2-3 sets of walking lunges to failure (using a yoke bar for hands-free work), or, single-leg extensions with holds at the top on each rep for a few sets. Seems to be helping. Never fear adding extra quad-based shit if growth is your goal.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trips of tribulation. Keep doing squats for those reasons.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Squatting is masochistic form of self-torture
    I think that's a third of the reason people do it, along with it being in powerlifting and knocking legs out at once.
    Convince me why I shouldn't drop the exercise all together.
    The third reason, it's efficient. And you don't have to max weight or reps to maintain.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >comically disproportionate legs
    Sounds like squatting did what you needed it to do. Now all you need to do is maintain unless you are either a literal bodybuilder or a literal powerlifter.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you're a free man, if you don't wanna squat then don't squat

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Convince me why I shouldn't drop the exercise all together.
    Why do you think you are so important that what you do or don't do matters? Kys.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He should be looking forward, not down.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No he should keep his neck neutral. Looking forward can cause back extension which can make it more difficult to hit depth.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >oh no this lift grew the muscles it targeted too much woe is me

    Just stop squatting then moron. You’re literally complaining that a lift was too effective.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it makes me look like a clown and feels like torture to perform

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just do front squats. both highbar and lowbar are the most unnatural movements imaginable for me and I'm literally unable to get the form right after trying out every cue imaginable, which led me to benching more than I squat, despite using the same volume for both, but with front squats I just go up and down

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      every noob feels better doing front squats because they're easier to balance. if you only do front squats, you WILL stall at a pretty low weight and never make progress again. you need backsquats just to drive your front squat up. and so you're gonna need to learn to backsquat.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not a noob, I have almost 2xbodyweight bench, and was never able get the backsquat form right for years. it got even worse when I got back to lifting after a few years. my bench returned to almost pre break numbers at a lower BW very fast while I constantly struggled with repping a slightly above 1xBW back squat. recently I said frick it, never backsquatting again and started building up my front squat

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you're a noob at squatting. you will NEVER even get to 275lb front squat by only front squatting. you'll probably stall at 2pl8. logically this doesn't really make sense, but that's the way it is.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Total broscience. e.g. there are weightlifters following the Bulgarian method, who never back squatted and got their front squat to over 6 plates. There's nothing magical about putting the barbell on your back that would make it only way to progress an other similar exercise. You mostly lose some hamstring engagement, while hitting the anterior chain better, and training hamstrings specifically by doing squats, compared to a deadlift variation, would be utter moronation anyway. Combined with enough deadlift volume (SLDL or trap bar, depending on the current focus, are both better for that than conventional for that), you don't need the back squat at all, if you don't compete.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Name one weightlifter besides Ilya who didn't backsquat regularly. All the bulgarians still did backsquats. This is a known fact in weightlifting. You have to back squat to bring up your front squat. You can argue that it doesn't make sense and "there's nothing magical about putting the bar on your back" but it is what it is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Max Aita, for example. In fact he didn't do back squats precisely because he trained under Abadjiev, the founder of the Bulgarian method and claims that his front squat used to be higher than his back squat then. Back squat may be a more effective general muscle strength builder (and be more convenient for building volume or translate more to snatch, than front squat), but it still has nothing to do with it being necessary, or even just more effective than the exercise itself, for progressing front squat.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Max could already back squat like 300kg+. He didn't get to a 250 frontsquat (or whatever he did) by only frontsquatting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not what he claims, just that he made the majority of his lifting progress doing front squat only. He straight up said that his back squat was lower than his front squat by the time he was done with weightlifting due to not back squatting at all

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you WILL stall at a pretty low weight and never make progress again
        oh no i get a good workout and don't break my knees and back trying to pr

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Back squat is all hams, my quads are NOT symmetric with my quads or calves.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just say you're ok with hitting a plateau and never progressing. Don't make a big song and dance about it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I am. Only prettyboy bodybuilders are impressed with your big legs.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I have mediocre lifts but big ass hams and pecs. 1yr back into it off like 2 months lifting a year tops.

              Where is my 5pl8 bench for reps, and why did I hit 4pl8s dl for reps not even training it?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >stalled at baby weights
          >good workout
          you are a moron

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not a noob, I have almost 2xbodyweight bench, and was never able get the backsquat form right for years. it got even worse when I got back to lifting after a few years. my bench returned to almost pre break numbers at a lower BW very fast while I constantly struggled with repping a slightly above 1xBW back squat. recently I said frick it, never backsquatting again and started building up my front squat

          just do front squats. both highbar and lowbar are the most unnatural movements imaginable for me and I'm literally unable to get the form right after trying out every cue imaginable, which led me to benching more than I squat, despite using the same volume for both, but with front squats I just go up and down

          dyels

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BRING THE PAIN

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah exactly you're toast for like 5 days, more than 1x a week is for if your legs are too small.
      >back squat 6 sets
      >dls and cleans maybe some front squats the other week

      Way easier to grow when you're at like 3pl8s for reps squats get your bench there then worry about legs it'll take literally 4 months to add 1pl8 with proper programming.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        holy shit how brazen are the dyels in this board about their delusions...

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't do it once a week cmon. More muscle mass means higher test, one day a week of like 5 sets to near failure will keep your legs symmetric with your upper body unless you never biked ran or did any sport.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I look forward to squatting

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me too
      But I started on SL 5x5 so I got Stockholm syndrome with squats
      When I fricked up my knee I missed squatting

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he fell for the meme
    squatting alongside ohp makes me feel fantastic god I can't wait for leg day

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just replace it with leg press. It feels much more comfortable and it better isolates the quads, which are the most important muscle in the lower body for an aesthetic physique.
    Squats feel miserable to perform and target a bunch of other muscles you don't really want to grow, like your hip flexors and adductors, cuz they create the appearance of wider hips.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

      you must be squatting like 2 plates if you think a leg press is a better lift

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know you are a total dyel. Leg press is a worthless exercise unless you are on gear or doing rehab. Even just squatting 2pl8 will give you more gains than leg pressing 1000lbs.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact Squating is so difficult is the reason you should do it. Doing hard things makes life easier.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Squatting with good & tight form with a 2X bodyweight on the bar feels incredible

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only counts if you go high bar atg, but yea double body weight squat feels pretty badass. Seeing a 160lb dude squat 315 is really impressive

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it only counts if you break parallel, doesn't matter where you put the bar on your back. For a male lifter 315 back squat is a novice lift. 1/2/3/4 is something most men should get within their first year

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do front squats instead

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    everyone who promotes squatting is either a beginner or very young and cant imagine doing weight lifting into his later years. Black person come back after 15 years of doing that shit and tell me it was worth it. no one cares how your legs look like or how you got them lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate to confirm what you're saying, but I'm 40 now and dropped the squat a looonnngg time ago because I feared the long term consequences for my back and knees. My old lifting buddy who kept hitting them hard completely fricked his back over the years to the point where he has had to call in sick to work to lay on the sofa all day dealing with herniated lumbar disc pain. He insists it's from sitting at a desk for work but I don't think so. Either way I'm still regularly lifting and he quit exercising entirely about five years ago. Whenever I'm planning my programs I think about the long-term, like what could I work on that I could still do when I'm in my 80s? Barbell lifts are out because I've simply heard too many old guys who used to lift big talk about the chronic pain they live with and I refuse to follow in their footsteps. Special attention is paid to elbows, knees, and back when choosing lifts.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        37 here and thats pretty much also my experience. I still feel strong and healthy but I already came close to fricking up my back. Dunno how long I will do weights tho, I can imagine myself doing pure calisthenics and regular jogging once Iam in my 50 or 60's tho.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate to confirm what you're saying, but I'm 40 now and dropped the squat a looonnngg time ago because I feared the long term consequences for my back and knees. My old lifting buddy who kept hitting them hard completely fricked his back over the years to the point where he has had to call in sick to work to lay on the sofa all day dealing with herniated lumbar disc pain. He insists it's from sitting at a desk for work but I don't think so. Either way I'm still regularly lifting and he quit exercising entirely about five years ago. Whenever I'm planning my programs I think about the long-term, like what could I work on that I could still do when I'm in my 80s? Barbell lifts are out because I've simply heard too many old guys who used to lift big talk about the chronic pain they live with and I refuse to follow in their footsteps. Special attention is paid to elbows, knees, and back when choosing lifts.

      37 here and thats pretty much also my experience. I still feel strong and healthy but I already came close to fricking up my back. Dunno how long I will do weights tho, I can imagine myself doing pure calisthenics and regular jogging once Iam in my 50 or 60's tho.

      >let me tell you about lifting

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm over 40 with kids. You will absolutely need to squat to keep mobility for the activities you're gonna do and to avoid the pitfalls of aging. What's worse is the best kind of squats to do are higher rep/higher volume (think 10-20 reps), and front loaded (front, zercher, goblet, dumbbell/kettlebell rack, sandbag bear hug, etc.)
    So your legs will not be comically hugs but you will still suffer from the squats. It's a damn sight better than the pain of stiffening tendons and arthritis and whatever. Do your squats.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have no legs but can squat 5 plate for reps.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    as a certified ancient lifter and recovering lanklet (started lifting at 6'2" 140 lbs over 10 years ago) squatting has literally never felt good. the best I can get is by sliding a couple 5lb plates under my heels. I'm content resting at 2pl8s forever though and switching out for single leg leg press when it starts feeling too arduous. some people just dont ever have the right proportions to feel good squatting i think, i read guys here talk about it like it's their favorite exercise but i literally just do leg day to avoid getting DOMS from leg days in the future, i hate every second of it and pushing it makes me feel like im staring death in the face.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People just don't get body geometry differences. Like 7'4" motherfrickers saying just dunk it.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if we translate his one legged squat to back squat, 145 becomes 290

      lol what a moron

      his website's dead too

      hopefully he's out of a job by now

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all I have to show for it are comically disproportionate legs
    noone told you to squat so often
    noone told you to squat so heavy
    noone told you to do less upper volume than lower volume
    squats are fricking fantastic and if you look like shit it's user error

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not called the knee and hip destroyer for nothing

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    stfu and be grateful because some of us never improve in squats and have comically disproportionate legs in the opposite direction

    t. lanklet

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > waaaah muh legs are "too" big and the Squat is.... LE HARD
    STFU pussy.

    There's exactly 1 reason not to squat. Ready?
    > being a homosexual

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