>start cutting last year. >unpredicted health and life problems along the way. >crash diet

>start cutting last year
>unpredicted health and life problems along the way
>crash diet
>fuck up your metabolism
>weight stalling
>spin your wheels for a long time
>crash diet again until weight starts dropping
>it's already july
>you are still not lean enough
>it seems like you have at lest 15 lbs to drop
>even if weight loss was consistent summer will be over before you get lean enough
Another year wasted, i guess it's time to simply give up

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Better luck next year. Keep hitting it through the winter.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There won't be next year.

      Just keep working at it. There was a survey done with people who had lost weight and kept it off successfully for years. They went about it in different ways, but there was one thing they almost all had in common which was “don’t keep trying” and “keep going”.

      I was lean before but i can't get back to the same level. My pretty much just shuts down. I can't sleep, lift or even think. I'm not normie standard "fat". It's my retarded body fat distribution makes me look way fatter than i am in reality.

      >crash diet
      never do this without pharma in the mix

      I never said im natty. Besides, running gear won't change anything besides keeping your test levels stable and prevent you from losing as much muscle as you would lose natty.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >running gear won't change anything
        There's more than AAS for cutting. GH and Sema are especially nice. A replacement dose of thyroid helps A LOT.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its annoying how some people just seem to get lean so easily, while others struggle like crazy, what the fuck is the difference?

    I know some guys who will just say "ok time to get lean" and within a 2 months they have shredded abs.

    Meanwhile 2 months of cutting barely does anything, I just get less fat, but still have fat all over me.

    My body really really fucking hates losing fat, other guys can just seem to lose it the moment they feel like it at a whim.

    I am doing CICO and counting macros, etc, it just seems like my body is heavily resistant to fatloss, or maybe im just overestimating my actual caloric needs and maybe im not in as much of a deficit (or a deficit at all), but then again that would mean calorie calculators are way over-estimating my needs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Btw yeah I'll cut on 1800 calories, and eat 150g protein in that, and for some reason I just stay fat looking doing that for 2-3 months. I might lose like 10 pounds, thats it. Its so fucking annoying to have to starve myself on such low calories and end up barely losing any fat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Btw yeah I'll cut on 1800 calories, and eat 150g protein in that, and for some reason I just stay fat looking doing that for 2-3 months. I might lose like 10 pounds, thats it. Its so fucking annoying to have to starve myself on such low calories and end up barely losing any fat.

      water retention will ruin your physique if you're not careful
      i have the same issue as you guys, no matter how much weight i lose, i'll still look like shit
      i only ever look good if i eat an autistically clean diet for weeks straight with zero cheating
      significantly reduce your sugar & sodium and see if that helps at all

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Neva eva believe the calculators for calorie burning activities
      You burn the calories there but your body saves them elsewhere with metabolic adjustments
      Just count what you put in and track the weight you lose, subtracting calories for cardio and etc. is a meme

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >burning calories is a meme

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No retard, thinking that the treadmill saying you burned 150 means you can drink a soda "for free" is a meme

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            don't you know how to roughly estimate burned calories based on your height, weight, distance, wattage, etc? You're the fucking retard here if you really think that someone would actually believe in numbers displayed on the machine.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Ah so you believe the calories displayed on your other, cooler machine instead
              There is literally no reason to track calories burned in that way, just treat it as part of your metabolic baseline (which you should be keeping track of, since it changes as your body weight does) and you'll stop stalling out so hard

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >don't count calories from cardio
                >count them as part of your metabolic baseline
                holy fuck, do you even realize what you've just said you fucking retard?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What I said is correct
                The body compensates for calories burned during intense activity by adjusting your metabolic rate in other ways
                There are research papers showing this if you want to google but it's also common sense
                Since you need to track your TDEE anyways, the most effective thing you can do is maintain a consistent level of activity and consider it as part of your baseline
                That or autistically log your individual calculated expenditures and stall out, do whatever you want

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You said not to count calories from cardio and next thing you said is that you should count them.
                Do you even know what you're talking about?
                Why would i increase my TDEE number if one day i'm doing 2 hours of cardio, next day i will do only 30? It's obviously better to roughly estimate calories burned day to day rather than estimate entire fucking week upfront.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >obviously better
                lol
                What I'm saying is you track your calorie intake, track your weight, and determine your average TDEE from that
                Ignore any Excel tier shit about tracking calories you think you burn
                That's all I'm suggesting

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/oqA6GJJ.png

      >start cutting last year
      >unpredicted health and life problems along the way
      >crash diet
      >fuck up your metabolism
      >weight stalling
      >spin your wheels for a long time
      >crash diet again until weight starts dropping
      >it's already july
      >you are still not lean enough
      >it seems like you have at lest 15 lbs to drop
      >even if weight loss was consistent summer will be over before you get lean enough
      Another year wasted, i guess it's time to simply give up

      There won't be next year.
      [...]
      I was lean before but i can't get back to the same level. My pretty much just shuts down. I can't sleep, lift or even think. I'm not normie standard "fat". It's my retarded body fat distribution makes me look way fatter than i am in reality.
      [...]
      I never said im natty. Besides, running gear won't change anything besides keeping your test levels stable and prevent you from losing as much muscle as you would lose natty.

      If you’re doing cardio then you aren’t doing enough of it. Simple as.

      Hit the stair master for an hour every day for 3 months and then we’ll have a discussion otherwise all this shit that I didn’t even read is irrelevant.

      Fucking idiots

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        pure bro science

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I’m one of those guys and what people don’t see they don’t know unless I tell them. The biggest thing I have going for me is I know that I can be lean because I usually am. So when I’m cutting I don’t get nearly as discouraged because I always know it’s a realistic goal. I’ve been there before and it’s just a matter of time and effort before I get back there.

      This is immensely helpful because it really becomes a kind game but there’s no secret here: it’s only easy looking because I hide how hard I work.

      For example: I joined a mma gym and would do 3-4 sessions a week of back to back Muay Thai and BJJ. When I say back to back I mean same day I’d do 2-3 classes which amounted to 3 hours of training in one day. I would also do these classes fasted, not eating the entire day until after class. Some days I was so pumped I would even hit the weights for another hour after and then eat.

      It’s pretty insane and my relatives have all commented on it, some even wondering if I should get checked for the rapid weight loss. Which is silly since I told them all early this year that I was going to get back in shape now that COVID restrictions have been completely lifted at my gym etc.

      The point here is I’m not going to tell people how much I’m busting my ass unless they are interested in doing the same because it’s lost on most people. In all honestly very few people can relate to what it’s like to go through 3 hours of intense training, where you literally lose lbs from sweat, while not eating for a 48 hours prior.

      I get it, it is intense and I only do it every so often when I feel like I have the willpower. But it’s great once you have done it once or twice and know it is something you can choose to do if you want it bad enough.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So basically do shit loads of activity and don’t eat ?

        How do you deal with the hunger after all the activity?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Stoicism. That and cocaine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Like everything else in life you keep trying until something works. I did shit like fasting but found myself binging and basically it would turn into yo-yo dieting. Then I tried aids like caffeine and using bronkaid as an appetite suppressant.

          What eventually worked for me was doing intermittent fasting until I was doing OMAD (one meal a day) or having a window of eating between 4-10.

          Then joining the gym I would basically do that, have coffee right before hitting the gym from 5:30-8:39. By then I was so high from exhaustion and adrenaline that I would have no appetite, but as a result I’d eat a really reasonable meal of like lamb chops and mashed potatoes, maybe with some fruit, like red grapefruit with a spoonful of sugar.

          I still would have off days, but overall the caloric deficit I was throwing my body into would win out and my energy levels were spiking after a few weeks. The first week I was just absolutely toast by the second class but since the last class was BJJ I could really pace myself and I wasn’t sparring yet, so even I was gassed during drilling techniques I could catch my breath.

          By the third weak came and I was fully sparring my body was acclimated, and yes, I was still gassed, but it was usually by my 2nd or even third sparring session.

          And again, I wouldn’t go all out like 48 hours of fasting then training often. There would be just certain days where I was like I feel like I can do this and I would try it. Once in awhile I’d be able to do the full 48, some days I’d fail the same day I started it.

          There is one issue here which is you will lose some muscle, which you will have on a cut. It’s part of it, you can do a recomp which is a much longer process where you won’t risk losing muscle or nearly as much. Just as a heads up on that.

          The good thing is losing fat makes you look more muscular despite the loss because of the definition you gain on your muscles.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > while others struggle like crazy, what the fuck is the difference?
      Ghrelin release aka GENETICS

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Poor excuse, don’t believe this guy, he’s full of shit. change the way Ghrelin release is affected by both diet and exercise more than genetics.

        > Ghrelin fluctuation, what determines its production?

        https://academic.oup.com/abbs/article/41/3/188/655

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just keep working at it. There was a survey done with people who had lost weight and kept it off successfully for years. They went about it in different ways, but there was one thing they almost all had in common which was “don’t keep trying” and “keep going”.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >crash diet
    never do this without pharma in the mix

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Aim to lose about 2kg of fat per month. That should tell you your max bodyfat% during the winter and how long you should cut for. I would also take an extra month for buffer (accidentally wrote buffet, kek).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you wanna be extra sure aim for 1.5 or even 1kg

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >weight loss stalls
    >increase cardio
    >weight loss continues
    ?????

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you can't increase cardio into infinity when you're already on low calories

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >when you're already on low calories
        which why you never drop them too low

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you know it doesn't matter how high is the number? One guy will suffer on 1500, other guy will suffer the same on 3500 calories

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you sound like a loser

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You'll be back to to shape soon, bro. Remember what it was like when you started out, bite through.

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