Hi IST, This summer I will be doing an internship as an investment banking analyst in NYC. The average hours are around 80 a week. How can I stay IST during this period? Thanks in advance
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Hi IST, This summer I will be doing an internship as an investment banking analyst in NYC. The average hours are around 80 a week. How can I stay IST during this period? Thanks in advance
Get home gym equipment like resistance bands since it's very lightweight and easy to pack away and I'm guessing space will be your priority since the ones young guys doing this often live in shoebox apartments. Also get a "door anchor" if you're using bands so you can perform more exercises maybe a kettlebell if you're up for that as well.
Make sleep your #1 priority since your performance in basically everything stems from that and if you can save an hour of total commuting on days you'd otherwise be going to and from the gym that's a major time saver. Plus if you're sleeping like shit, your job performance will suffer and possibly job prospects.
Can answer a few more questions before I go, anyway good luck and don't do evil Blackrock ESG bullshit if you make it up there.
First off congratulations and fuck you.
Second: Don't overthink it, but do plan.
a) Don't eat too much goyslop. You're making money, you can spend it on paying gays to cook for you.
b) Get enough rest. We get 168 hrs a week. Your biggest concern unlike 90% of gays is no longer MONEY but TIME. This means spending money for convenience is now worth it. Get an apartment near your office so you don't have to commute long, etc.
88 hours isn't that long. 7 hours a day + 1 for various pooping/pissing/cleaning = 56 hours a week. This leaves you 32 for the rest of the week not including faggy social activities like dating, etc.
c) Plan your workouts accordingly. You probably won't have time to hit it more than 4 times a week maximum.
If you want a moron off IST life coaching you, then fuck you pay me. If not, then just take this advice and run.
Why would you be envious of some good goy slaving his prime years away for shlomo?
Have you seen the money they make moron? I don't want to be a poorfag for life. OP will basically never be a poorfag unless he commits fraud or something equally retarded which in fairness, he might since he's autistic enough to be on here.
What can you even buy with upper middle class money these days anyways? Everything’s cheap Chinese horseshit. Even if you buy something worthwhile like a house, why does that matter if you’ll barely get to spend any time there?
He's talking about buying a 50k dollar watch and posting it on instagram for likes. That's the type of person we're dealing with here. Why are they on/fit/? Maybe to learn HOW 2 GIT DAH ABZ 4DAH SLOOTS or something.
The low social status poorfag cope is hilarious to see and witness, never gets old
I’m not a poorfag you moron. If you ever manage to get any money you’ll realize just how few things of value you can actually buy with money. That’s the point I was making.
Time is the most valuable asset, not money. Most bankers I know are coping depressed nerds. That said they are at least rich as fuck nerds compared to people you find online.
I'd honestly rather be poor than work 80 fucking hours a week.
Most people get to have both poverty and backbreaking work schedules, don't worry anon.
Very cringe post. Don't ever post here again
Eat healthy but substantial lunches. Don't be the burger and fries guy who's buying a new suit after 3 months
>investment banker
Internship shouldn't be too bad. Unless you're in a real hardo group, interns aren't given unbearable hours. Should easily be able to get an hour in (especially if your company/building has a gym) before starting your day. First 2/3 years will be rough if you are in a good group/firm that actually gets business. Be prepared for your body and mind to go to shit during your time as an analyst - anyone telling you this can be prevented is lying or a loser who isn't put on any deals.
I don't disagree with this post
but I think you should still put in max time. They want to see your work ethic, so show it to them. Grind out the same hours they're pulling to show them you can hang. Even if it's just getting them coffee or helping them out with some bullshit task.
GRIND because that's what they're doing, and you'll be proving you can be one of them. They'll respect that, wouldn't you?
Get the fuck out of my city. Go back to Iowa or Illinois or whatever prairie you came from. You're not welcome here.
>he thinks OP landed an IB internship in NYC while being in any of those bumfuck states
You have no idea how competitive it is.
I'm sure he went to some target school equivalent to the Ivy's
And where do you land anon?
Didnt read, kill ~~*yourself*~~
holy shit someone on fit who isnt a software engineer millionaire? oh wait, just a wall street investment banker millionaire instead,
Analysts make 110k base and usually 50-100% bonus
Except you can make $150k+ as a software engineer with 1/10 the hours.
What kind of retard software engineer works 8 hours a week?
>inb4 every retard on the board is a 6’0+ Software Engineer for FAANG or the Big 3
I’m him. You get put on to maintain or not make any vital changes. Work at a large or older company and you start to realize just how disgusting these places are being ran.
Outdated SOPs, bad documentation, little to no support models in place other then babugees across the ocean making cents on the dollar.
Find a job that gets you leverage, do some menial work, and use that leverage to move up, out, or get a raise.
>t. Got paid to scratch my nuts today and hit on tight pre school teachers while pushing back meetings
What's your role?
Not anymore
you're retarded
>director of software development at Amazon
Everyone is working 50+ every week, end of sprint or especially during a launch people work 14 hour days regularly.
>thread is full of people that don't work in any of the careers they are giving advice on. jfc
this kek
swe here, i generally clock 50 hours a week and 60-70 when a big deployment happens. i honestly can't wait until the CS hype dies down, there's no place in this field for people who don't genuinely enjoy the work and nobody wants to deal with retards who think a bootcamp and a cookie-cutter react app qualifies them for anything
You're comparing apples to oranges here. That's a role for someone with over 10 years of experience garnering a salary of ~$400k.
Financial analyst?
Nah, investment banking analysts.
Put all client money in index funds or bonds depending on their time horizon and just work out as usual with all the free time you’ll have
Shut the fuck up
>t. investment banker bound to throwing himself off an nyc high-rise
based. imagine paying an ~~*investment banker*~~ to underperform the index.
This is fucking FACTS, bankers / investors dont do SHIT. Lazy cunts
Investment banks don't invest money like that, you're thinking of funds.
Fucking retards
>Investment Banker
>internship as an investment banking analyst in NYC
have a nice day garden gnome jr
And yet not even 50% of these gays beat the index. A monkey making random decision and doing BETTER than more than half of the invest guys is actually a fact.
Work 5 hours a week and workout a lot. Literally doesnt make a difference in your job
You have no idea what investment bankers do, do you? This has to be bait lmao
This. Investment bankers just exploit the fact that the market isn't free or real and ride the boom bust cycles.
Just read the Wikipedia on investment banking. Sounds like a load of horseshit.
Retardo
I think most people dont get what investment bankers really do, they think of them as asset managers
From experience i would suggest you work out before work, afterwards youll be too tired to do anything + youre not time stressed to leave to work early to get your workout in
Anyone working that many hours is damaging their health and will burn out.
t. $75k a year and ~30 hours a week
80 hours a week for an internship?!
I love how whenever the idea of making money is mentioned on IST people make up all these absurd copes to justify the fact that are too lazy to build anything for themselves.
>hurr durr making money is for jooz
>you will only buy a watch with it and use it for instagram likes, not greatly enhanced personal freedom
>I am le based trad monk I don't need it I swear
You do not have to slave away for some garden gnome to make money nor do you have to sacrifice your health. You just have to stop watching anime and using this website 24/7 and use your free time to build a business. Anyone can do affiliate marketing or start an e-commerce business. You are all just too lazy.
>You just have to stop watching anime and using this website 24/7 and use your free time to build a business. Anyone can do affiliate marketing or start an e-commerce business. You are all just too lazy.
your biz will crumble and you'll be left shitting your pants like the rest of 90% of biz owners in 5 years
>start an e-commerce business.
I have no real idea what this is. My intuition says stay away because people dm me directly on LinkedIn and skirt around when I ask exactly what they want me to do. They then send me an article explaining how I can make money on the side in a way that sounds like a too good to be true sales pitch
Dealing with shopify and google fucking sucks ass. Do a local service like custom cnc woodwork instead.
This is the real way to fulfillment, happyiness, potentially wealth, and unironically to the elite MBA crowd - prestige.
Ok but I legitimately have no idea about any of this so I don’t know what you’re talking about. Please tell me
>you will only buy a watch with it and use it for instagram likes, not greatly enhanced personal freedom
80+ hour work weeks is greatly enhanced personal freedom oh yeah
What work is there even to do? Just chill out until the federal reserve lowers interest rates artifically again. I mean currently just invest in boeing or lockheed martin I guess lmao
Go to the gym in the morning, I presume your company will have a gym along with a resturant etc. Eat clean, train hard, and put in a strong effort for your company.
I got a finance degree but ended up doing an apprenticeship in the trades after not getting hired lol. Plan to get my CFA and attempt to switch back over after my ticket.
IB gays be like:
>yeah I do asset management in the Bulge-bracket ;*~~ oog my workweeks are sooo LONG and HARD ;*~~))
>80 hours a week
Lol, do mutts really?
I'm at 35h per week and it's already tiring
Imagine being a literal slave
We also can afford to actually buy things like computer parts and tvs and cars and land and hunt on our own land. Everything is give/take. That said working 80 hours a week for goyim scheckles in a city where $120k/yr is poverty and you are inhaling lead and homeless people shit all day is retarded.
>We also can afford to actually buy things like computer parts and tvs and cars and land and hunt on our own land.
I can do the same and I work 37,5 hour weeks.
Yea these people are generally losers because of this, same in other professions (big law, management consulting, etc.). Have absolutely no lives outside of work, compare themselves HARD over superficial brands and bullshit (designer clothes, purses, watches, private school, aka just marketing companies identifying you as a rich idiot). Think NYC is the center of the universe because of having gimmicky cocktial bars & clubs, nice restaurants, and nothing else (anyone in these professions interested in 'the arts' is a dilettante). Have no real hobbies , passions, interests, etc so double and triple down on work.
I only know this because I used to be this, and have a lot of peers that are like this. Course corrected me entire life in mid 20s. Yea, Im stereotyping hard - finance is full of great, smart, hardworking people. But the insecure 'I was never the cool one in high school so this is my attempt look at these sleds I just bought' peacocking gets so pathetic so fast
kek this. i worked big 4 audit for a little less than a year. the hours were tame compared to investment banking or any "real" finance job, 50-60 hours during busy season + 5-10 hours commuting, but it still sucked ass. i gained like 20 pounds from stress and poor eating habits and i had basically no free time.
My guy, I am currently in Big 4 consulting and want to avoid what you described.
T.
Cocaine my friend
It’s insane to me that people will sell their entire lives and work 80 hours a week. Not to mention in NYC you can make just as much working a GOV job for significantly less of your time.
Longevity is a part of it but look at seethroughNY There are regular classroom teachers in NYC pulling 130 a year.
>inb4 that’s not that much in NYC
Yes it is retard I make less than that and Travel like 5 times a year while paying bills and spending on bullshit
I wish I lived somewhere with a MIC to fund my ass.
i posted here earlier just came back to tell you to have a nice day again wallstreet fag
Idk bro ask orthopedic surgeons
They work over 100hours a week and still are buff as fuck
lmao 100 hours a week working? Fucking robotic. That's literally 14 hours a day, every day. You would barely have time to eat before needing to sleep after a shift, that's fucking absurd.
No they dont lol
Maybe in residency, and even then doesnt approach 100 hours regularly. After that pretty reasonable
>They work over 100hours a week
No they don't. They're usually buff because they are failed athletes who choose a career that can get them closer to real athletes.
I doubt an internship is going to run you this ragged. Your focus needs to be on getting them to like you. Anyone can do the work, what they want is someone who's not a fag. And ~70 hour work weeks seem doable when you start them, but I did that grind for 3 years in law and it was fucking miserable. I do solo work now and my hours are way less, still making a comfy upper $100k working about 30 hours a week.
Do you work in albequerque new mexico specializing in elder law?
Now that Californians have completely destroyed Arizona and Colorado I am considering moving to New Mexico even though it was the worst of the 4 corners states.
NM slaps.
You're retarded bro
Imagine wasting all those hours under fluorescent lights doing absolutely nothing that ads value to society, rather detracts from society all to take money from the regular guy through speculation and put it in goldsteins pocket.
DeHispanicable.
High Intensity Training. Takes less than a quarter of the time and gets the same or better results compared to everything else.
Wow, a whole lot of people in this thread that have no idea what an investment banker does.
Congrats on the internship, OP. MBB fag here. Figure out the pecking order of who is important and get in their good graces early on so you can land the return offer.
As far as staying fit, you're going to have to significantly lower your expectations of what you can accomplish this summer. Really you're just going to have to shoot for maintenance. Upper/lower split on Sat/Sun. Try to do something to get the blood flowing at least one day on Tue/Wed/Thu. Don't be a retard and skip the social events for muh gainz, you'll come off as an antisocial loser that the boys won't want to work with, hurting your chances of the return offer.
You might actually escape the cesspool that is the user base this website. Don't fuck it up by worrying about lifting, keep it to the weekend mornings to stave of the MD bod. Good luck, OP
ah yes, and then you can join the even worse cess pools such as Fish Bowl
From what I've seen, 80% of the people on fishbowl are former employees of whatever firm they used to work for spewing outdated advice and numbers. Every forum is shit in one way or another.
Do any of your colleagues look fit?
I have never met a fit investment banker. They all have that chubby east coast look, many prematurely wrinkled and balding. A lot of these guys rely on pharmaceutical stimulants to keep up with the lifestyle, they eat out for every meal. The lifestyle is not conducive to fitness. It's not even conducive to the bare minimum of health, things like >6 hours of sleep per night, non-competitive bonds with peers, eating home cooked food. The priority is money.
That's fine, but if physical health is a priority for you, you should work on a five to ten year exit plan.
In the meantime get some incredibly low barrier cardio equipment for your apartment so you can at least postpone or stave off a heart attack. Your twenties fly by if you spend it working on a career like this, and your social milieu provides no healthy frame of reference. If you're not careful you're going to wake up to life in your mid-thirties with an unrecoverable body, some serious impending health issues, and a personality which does not lend itself to living happily amongst others.
Still, it's rewarding and fun, and obviously you will make a lot of money. I think you need to be real about possibilities here though. And, don't tell anyone if you end up planning to get out in five to ten years, you'll get sidelined and have your earning potential kneecapped.
Yea good stuff here. OP is in college, smart/hardworking. But really doesnt know what he likes or doesnt like until he actually does it. What you think you want in a career and life at 21 will be vastly different than at 30. Just be ok with knowing that, and take time to reflect.
You can easily get sucked into the comparison game with these paths and end up laboring your entire youth (20s and 30s) away for what amounts to a very unrewarding lifestyle. This isnt cope, some people ENJOY the grind of an MBB, IB, PE, etc. life. A lot of others just convince themselves they do because frankly they never spent time on anything else, so the cost is too sunk otherwise. Good news is this early work will set you up for flexibility down road, either with career, money, etc.
But you only get one life, and you only get one spin through your 20s. Just be aware of the trade offs going in.
Approved advice.
t. Ex IB, now in corp Dev
If you’re actually going to work those hours the honest answer is that you really can’t. The opportunity cost of that type of career, or any such career with extreme demands on your time, is that every other aspect of your life - health and fitness, romantic relationships, family bonds, etc - will necessarily have to take a serious back seat to your career. Or more likely they will disintegrate entirely and you will be left unhealthy and alone. That may not be the pragmatic answer about time management you were hoping for, but it’s the truth.
Truly, if you value career success so much more than those things that that is a sacrifice you are willing to make, then go forward as you see fit. It’s your life and your decision alone. But you would be well served to be honest with yourself about the extreme cost of that choice.
There are some people for whom that is a good path in life. They aren’t meant for a normal life like the rest of us and they could never be happy doing it. If that’s you, do what’s right for you. But there’s a high probability that isn’t you even if you really think otherwise.
Be wary of the lie that you can work in such a field, be fit, and have an active social life let alone a romantic relationship and a family. It is the male equivalent of the delusional, feminist boss-lady trope.
Even if you do 80 hour weeks, you are either gonna have some downtime early morning, or around dinner (depending on what kind of shop), so you shouldn't have much problems. But of course some days you might get swamped and will have to skip the gym, thats just the nature of the beast.
>The average hours are around 80 a week
they still do this meme? lol
I will never work another job without wfh again
Train with Mike Mentzer’s program. 25 minute sessions 3 times per week. All you need to see muscle growth if followed correctly. Check out his books and seminars.
be happy OP, I failed two Goldman Sachs super days
How the fuck did you even get two SDs?
Was it two different divisions?
Yup, I applied for two different divisions, but I guess neither one wanted me. Now I work at a big asset management company
No biggie, GS culture fucking sucks.
What tier bank (MM, EB, BB)?
How long and where did you exit?
Biglaw guy here, and here's what I found helpful
1: get some resistance bands and dumbells, even better if you can bring them to the office. I crank out a few sets of curls/hammer curls and lateral raises with the dumbells every morning while I work, and neck curls with the resistance bands, so I don't have to do them at the gym later.
2: Antagonistic supersets are your friend
3: Get a gym membership and don't be afraid to use machines. It's way faster to do 4 sets of leg extensions and hamstring curls than to squat and deadlift
4: Consistency is king. Try to hit each muscle group at least once on really busy weeks.
You can’t. Try to get as many steps as possible and don’t go nuts with food or drinking.
t. former analyst
Also, my advice is to just find another career.
I'm trying to do the same, do you have any advice for how I can get in?
Be the smartest person with the best grades at the best school you can get into
>t currently at community college looking to transfer so that's not going to happen by this summer
Law student here with similar hours. (in NY too btw senpai 😉
Do things efficiently to make more time. Meal prep. Minimize travel/commute time. Be efficient with work. Make sure to get enough sleep or nothing else will matter. It's really about efficiency. Don't neglect quality of diet either. It'll be easy to order delivery (waaay too easy, trust me), but you have to make sure you still eat enough vegetables and take care of yourself.
OH GOLLY GEE LOOK AT THAT, YET ANOTHER OFF TOPIC FIT CAREER THREAD
AND LIKE CLOCKWORK, HUNDREDS OF REPLIES OF
>INVESTMENT BANKERS
>SOFTWARE ENGINEERS
>LAWYERS
EVERY SINGLE DAY THE SAME FUCKING SHIT
EVERYONE ON FIT IS AN ULTRA RICH GENIUS LIKE FUCKING ALWAYS
EVERYONE ON FIT WORKING FROM HOME BARELY DOING ANY WORK TO MAKE THEIR 200K A YEAR SALARY
LITERALLY THE BEST MEN ON THE PLANET ALL CONGREGATE ON THE IST FITNESS BOARD. EVERYONE HERE ARE THE SMARTEST, FITTEST, RICHEST MEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH
OK NEET incel.
Keep on being poor and angry that this place isn't full of jobless homosexuals like yourself. It's cute when you get angry.
this is because random NEETs like your loser self won't reply to this thread except to seethe.
So fucking true. Some how everyone here is making $100k+ and can rep out a 2pl8 bench within a year of training.
Yes, but I'm pretty autistic with shit social skills so its swing and roundabouts
autism and shit social skills don't matter, you're rich so you can buy everything and everyone and buy your happiness for your life.
see
literally everyone on fit is a rich 6 figure earning millionaire. whenever anyone here posts their blog about their life, the very first thing they say is their career and salary. everyone on fit is also extremely happy, motivated, determined, and driven which is why everyone on this board is successful in every aspect of their life, socially, career, fitness, life accomplishments when most other people in society are talking about how hard it is to live a decent life in todays climate
the guy talking about "a bloo bloo u cant buy anthing of value with money" is a coping poorfag.
People who are good at one thing e.g. studying, working in their career, are usually good at most other things to a reasonable degree, e.g. athletics, working out, playing music. This is because the discipline and skills required to excel at one thing can be transferred to other things. Successful people are just that annoyingly good at being good at things. That's something you need to accept in life. The just world fallacy is exactly that. For example, the CEO of Goldman Sachs is a literal fucking EDM artist who DJs for fucks sake.
Money is only really good for providing a safety net. Focusing on material possessions beyond the basics is just tacky
>The average hours are around 80 a week
kek for what purpose
i make 6 figures on 40 hours a week
way to stressmax I guess
Why bother making money if you don't have time to enjoy it?