strength symmetry

>push/pull bodyweight to/from any angle
>somehow this is not recognised as the ultimate upper body strength symmetry

you have taken the symmetricpill, right fit? Or is your OHP lacking?

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    3 days a week

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >OHP and incline equal to flat bench
    Don't be retarded op

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being able to push your own bodyweight overhead requires much greater strength than away or toward your chest because it uses fewer and smaller muscles. You also put 0kg for dips and pullups.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      so make those smaller muscles bigger. Also those exercises are bodyweight, so it's still a 100kg load.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What website is this?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Symmetric strength

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get how the site does its calculations. I punch my numbers in, it tells me I'm lacking squat. So I bump squat to what I think will make the numbers even and all the other numbers fall and squat barely goes up.
    Also, is it measering squat with hip crease below knees or what? What's the form assumption?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't get how the site does its calculations
      It goes based on whatever everyone puts into it and has put into it. So every DYEL troll that inputs that saying she can bench 3 plates skews it making laughably false.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why the fuck would it work like that? I thought it was pulling information from some proper research paper.
        Is that just for in reference to others lifters or for the colourful guy too?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nope, no paper. Purely what other "lifters" have inputted over time. Hence, why we get these threads often cause they are fuckin retards or trolling.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fuck, I shared it with my lifting group because I thought it was a cool tool to figure out what you're lacking.
            Do you have an alternative?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why the fuck would it work like that? I thought it was pulling information from some proper research paper.
        Is that just for in reference to others lifters or for the colourful guy too?

        It works like that because people are less likely to lie about their numbers when it's done anonymously and isn't shared with anyone.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, no paper. Purely what other "lifters" have inputted over time. Hence, why we get these threads often cause they are fuckin retards or trolling.

        that's retarded. Look at the references they use, it's literally on the website.

        I don't get how the site does its calculations. I punch my numbers in, it tells me I'm lacking squat. So I bump squat to what I think will make the numbers even and all the other numbers fall and squat barely goes up.
        Also, is it measering squat with hip crease below knees or what? What's the form assumption?

        Why the fuck would it work like that? I thought it was pulling information from some proper research paper.
        Is that just for in reference to others lifters or for the colourful guy too?

        Fuck, I shared it with my lifting group because I thought it was a cool tool to figure out what you're lacking.
        Do you have an alternative?

        it's a pretty good tool, don't listen to that guy. The calculations are not based on the data that randoms enter when they're pissing around

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The calculations are not based on the data that randoms enter when they're pissing around
          >Symmetric Strength provides a comprehensive lifter analysis based on strength research and data from strength competitions.
          Does it collect any data?
          How can a site tell when I'm pissing around to find out what numbers I'd need to hit to make it look balanced? There's no "pissing around mode".

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >strength research
            >strength competitions
            not
            >unverified data from our userbase

            they do not say anywhere that they use our inputs

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >they do not say anywhere that they use our inputs
              Trust me they don't data mine and use that data.
              Fuckin KEK

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why do my estimates and character and score get better when I remove data?
              If you're wondering why my stats look wonkey it's because I just started training at a gym after training on rings/bar/floor for so long and I have long arms.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                your total score is calculated from the mean average of your performances in the different lifts. By adding data, you're giving a better estimate. For instance, if you just put your best exercise, your score will be calculated using only that performance and so it will be better than if you included your worse lifts. Also the bar graph is just a comparison to your average strength, which changes depending on the lifts you give

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Alright, thanks. What should my squat and sumo DL be to make it more even?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                if you scroll down there should be a table showing the strength standards for different lifts, which should give you some idea. One thing to mention, squat and deadlift are quite technical compared to other lifts, and so for a lot of beginners they perform worse purely due to technique, rather than a strength imbalance

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Got some lifters to watch my squat, they said it was good/safe form I just needed to adjust my arms a bit. I can do a lot more if I don't squat to parallel though.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's good, I guess it just comes down to getting more comfortable with the movement then. Judging by how strong your upper body is, I feel like you should be able to squat at least 100kg without much more time training. If you want a squat that is comparable to your upper body, my guess would be about 140kg.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can't even imagine a 100kg full squat. Should I be thinking push down, stand up, hip forward, what exactly?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                honestly I don't know, and I think the best thing is just to get to a point where all those little tips and tricks kind of just feel like natural things you'd do anyway, and the only way to get there is to keep squatting. I'm sorry, I know that's a crap answer. One of the things that helped me was focusing on holding a lot of tension throughout my body for the duration of the squat. My core, back, legs, and butt were all tight before I'd even started going down. One of the things it did is it made the movement feel very stable and controlled, and so it felt like I could generate upwards force more effectively. I feel like squat is one of those really uncomfortable lifts where you can't just half-ass it, you really have to prepare for it by bracing. I hope that makes sense

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your cues after unracking should be brace your abdominals, lower slowly and once you've hit your desired depth imagine you're pushing the floor apart with your feet, keep your chest up by locking your eyes on something slightly above you and squeeze the glutes at the top

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Look at the references they use, it's literally on the website.
          Reading and comprehension is hard, let alone discerning what's bullshit and not. I understand. They use a lot of big words with hyperlinks and it works on retards like you. Pretty sure you'd do better on that other site moron.
          >people are less likely to lie about their numbers when it's done anonymously
          Yeah, you def retarded too or this is some excellent bait.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah I guess we could just assume they're lying. Well done, you figured out not to trust everything you read online
            >yeah bro, my biceps are really lagging behind. I c-
            >WELL HOW DO YOU KNOW?
            >oh well it's just I was looking at this research paper, and-
            >ACADEMIC PAPER? LMAO, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY LYING

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous
  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >2,5 months working out
    im content with my progress especially with The Press™

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    pulling your bodyweight, like a pull-up is easy. so is rowing your bodyweight. Benching your bodyweight is a bit harder than rowing your bodyweight, and OHP your BW is the most difficult of the 4

    Difficulty:
    Pull-ups>Rows>Bench>OHP

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      okay sure, but hear me out. Did you ever stop to consider the fact that maybe that's what they WANT you to think?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        its just basic anatomy when looking at which muscles, does what, and the volume of said muscles. A long with what kinda leverage they have.
        Your take seems more like a conspiracy, cause having a 1.1.1.1 ratio in those lifts are unnatural

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          well maybe those different muscle volumes are influenced by the fact that we're told what to think about which muscles 'should' be stronger. Now I don't mean to sound schizo or anything, but lets be honest. It's obviously the garden gnomes

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            no, cause it litterally is what you see in untrained people and trained people. both strength wise and volume wise. i had anatomy with real bodies, and the lats are so much bigger than the pecs, its not even close. and thats just one of the muscles of all the muscles, in the back, aiding when doing pull ups.
            and OHP is pretty much just shoulder and triceps, with a bit of upper pecs, at the bottom of the lift, and traps that does it indirectly.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      so push > pull

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ohp is lacking but I've started focusing on it. Slowly getting better.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I started working out seriously like 6 months ago. Im underweight (still) and it says I'm subpar on everything kek

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    My pressing is shit lmao

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Natty limit

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love OHP but man it feels so inconsistent sometimes when trying not to lean too far back or use leg drive.

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