>subcutaneous fat goes down. >still have a huge belly

>subcutaneous fat goes down
>still have a huge belly
How the frick do you get rid of bloat?
Is it because the intestines are basically a huge muscle?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you're still fat is all

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are so many bodybuilders shredded but still have a big gut on stage then?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They have completely different problems than you do unless you’ve been blasting everything and the kitchen sink for 10 years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >big gut on stage then?
        Big gut does not equal high bodyfat in the bodybuilding context

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Specifically stage ready bodybuilders on stage

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Human growth hormone abuse, insulin abuse, enlarged organs, thick obliques, cant hold in their stomach etc.
        bodybuilders have completely ruined bodies, they are obese without having high bodyfat but they are still obese. they eat 10 000kcal a day, this causes gut distension whether you are fat or not.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >big gut on stage then?
        Big gut does not equal high bodyfat in the bodybuilding context

        Human growth hormone abuse, insulin abuse, enlarged organs, thick obliques, cant hold in their stomach etc.
        bodybuilders have completely ruined bodies, they are obese without having high bodyfat but they are still obese. they eat 10 000kcal a day, this causes gut distension whether you are fat or not.

        It's just visceral fat. Pro BBs are even more prone because they take insulin with every meal + take gh which lowers insulin sensitivity. Then precomp they take a bunch fat burning drugs and get shredded in a couple months. But the visceral fat remains because it takes much longer to diet off.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          good post

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How the frick do you get rid of bloat?
    drop all carbs. your goal is to normalize your insulin. which will allow your body to drop visceral fat. the skinny fit vegan aesthetic is a thing for a reason.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >drop all carbs. your goal is to normalize your insulin. which will allow your body to drop visceral fat. the skinny fit vegan aesthetic is a thing for a reason.
      Nonsense. Its about dropping bodyfat. OP will have a gut until 13-14% and it wont go away until 11-12

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Nonsense. Its about dropping bodyfat. OP will have a gut until 13-14% and it wont go away until 11-12
        dropping body fat in a high insulin environment is what wont work well. going on a low carb diet is very effective in reducing fat in the gut area.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I believe at those bodyfat levels it all about bodyfat and this magical low carb insulin thing is a none issue. And telling newb's like the OP who just has to high bodyfat that he needs low carb is nonsense. He just needs to get leaner with a caloric deficit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >low carb insulin thing is a none issue.
            moron. please stop talking...you have no idea what you are talking about.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I have cut to 10% and had abs. I done like 4 or 5 cuts. All while eating carbs. You are telling a newbie that has not done a proper cut before, a newbie that has high bodyfat, that he needs to go on some low carb shit. That is not true. He needs to lose weight. Period.

              >He just needs to get leaner with a caloric deficit.
              Lol. Easier said than done.
              When 90% of natties cut, they just end up getting smaller. Not leaner, smaller. As in they might drop a couple percent of bodyfat but get way smaller and weaker. Until before they know it 90% of the muscle they thought they gained is just gone and their thin as a rail, and still not even shredded, just decently lean.

              >When 90% of natties cut, they just end up getting smaller. Not leaner, smaller.
              Why you coming with this shit? "when natties", general statement which mean you have no personal experience with it. moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I did experience it. For years. Despite proper training, advanced strength levels, my body's hormones simply were too shitty to hold onto any significant muscle mass when low bodyfat. As soon as I got on trt it was like the fat melted off my torso and everything just worked better.

                Most natties are delusional and severely underestimate how much fat they are carrying. It becomes extremely black pilling when you are 205lbs, lifting a lot of weight, gained a lot of strength, and assume you've gained a shit load of muscle but when you begin dieting you drop the first 20 pounds and don't look any leaner. Then you start actually cutting away noticable body fat off, while gulping down as much protein as possible praying to hold onto every gram of muscle you can, and before you know it you still end up at like 160 lean, signficantly weaker and not even shredded. Brutal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok cool. You just underestimated your bf.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He just needs to get leaner with a caloric deficit.
            Lol. Easier said than done.
            When 90% of natties cut, they just end up getting smaller. Not leaner, smaller. As in they might drop a couple percent of bodyfat but get way smaller and weaker. Until before they know it 90% of the muscle they thought they gained is just gone and their thin as a rail, and still not even shredded, just decently lean.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Getting rid of visceral fat takes a lot more work.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anavar takes care of it easy

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >arms and legs are lean enough to be veiny even without a pump
    >still have belly fat
    Is it ogre without surgery or can I outdiet my genes?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      another DYEL newbie or at worst troll

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm serious.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick. Every time I come to IST it’s a battle to be the stupidest dumb c**t on the board.

    Big belly issue? Feel bloated? Fast. FRICKING FAST. NO FOOD FOR 48 HOURS AND YOU FIX YOUR DAMAGED GUTS.

    Frick.

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