Post stack
>multi
>zinc+copper
>mag
>pygeum
>fish oil
>bromelain
>sunflower lecithin
>calcium
>vit D+E
>boron
>bromelain
Just started the boron for the suggested boost in free T - anybody have experience with boron?
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I have experience with your thread being boron
I dont appreciate the belittlement anon
Sigma from gorilla mind
Turkesterone
Lock and load from gorilla mind
Do you find the turk to be useful at all?
No just placebo effect. I just take it since I bought it but won’t be ordering again.
>gorilla mind
hi derik
This multivitamin but mine has iron too.
>Extra boron
>Extra magnesium
>Ashwaganda
>Extra d3
>Fish oil
>Extra zinc
>Taurine
>L-arginine (I ran out tho)
Any recommendations?
I also have l-citruline or whatever in my pre-workout
it's shit.
Vit d3 - insanely low dose. Look up dr. gominak or dr. somerville
b vitamins - you need all 8 of them
oxides - you need chelated, metal+ aminoacid. Oxides will only give you diarrhea.
Calcium carbonate - absolute shit. It just calcifies your joints and artheries while doing nothing for bones. You need organic one. Besides, studies have shown that calcium rich food prolong life, but calcium supplementation decreases it. For mentioned reasons. In general, you don't need to supplement it, just eat calcium rich foods.
Vitamin K -total garbage. Synthetic vitamin K destroys your liver. Just take K2 from natto. You get enough K from food.
Vitamin A - just take beta carotene and your own body will make as much vit A as it needs. Just not synthetic.
Do you ever research supplements you are taking? Your stack is just moronic.
You expect me to buy each individual supp? I'm not going to spend 60 a month them, I'm not a neet living off my parents
Just buy the ones that are worth a shit and take them individually at effective doses. See
right now you are just wasting your money on something that can only frick up your digestive system.
D3 is insanely cheap.
Zinc, Copper, Boron, K2mk7, B Complex, Omega 3, Iodine, Magnesium - all in a proper in bioavailable form will cost you 20-30 per year each.
So like 200 dollars per year.
>Vitamin A - just take beta carotene and your own body will make as much vit A as it needs.
The conversion rate is low or moderate at best. Get retinol if you want real vitamin A
I read that 40% of people's liver cant convert it at all.
>least bioavailable sources of nearly all ingredients
like pottery
Don't take ashwaghanda every day, it can lead to feelings of lethargy and anhedonia. Just use it occasionally during stressful periods.
Nah you just cycle it on month on one off.
stop taking l-arginine, just take l-citrulline.
l-arginine supplementation is pissed out entirely. The body will not make more of it than the balanced equation to l-citrulline. if you supplement l-arginine, your body will just stop making it and you'll be at the same level.
only by increasing l-citrulline sources does it increase.
>anybody have experience with boron?
Yeah, it makes me horny as frick after about a week and I can jack off 3-4 times a day on it. I take 10mg a day, and cycle it 2 weeks on, 1 week off.
Vitamin C
D3
Magnesium
Zinc w/ Copper
Fish Oil
Krill Oil
L-Tyrosine
Alpha GPC
Osterine and Cardarine and yohimbine and Tribulus
Anyone ever tried panax ginseng? Is it worth taking as a mood and energy booster?
>pygeum
>vitamin d
seems to work ok for me
ITT: morons that fell for the supplement meme
e-girlng and even lmaoing at you
d3 is litteraly anabolic steroid hormone that regulates hibernation and can turn on over 2000 genes. You need it and all it's cofactors.
how about you go outside?
where I live you can get vit d from the sun like 4 months a year. But there is no need for me to stay hibernated for half a year, as it plenty of resources. So it's endless summer for me in the north.
And eating food doesn't help eaither, since it's all decifient in metals like zinc and magnesium due to modern agriculture and dairy/meat doesn't contain k2.
Post body brah
You're not even anabolic, sleep or energy-maxxing
What is the most bioavailable multi vitamin out there?
Ironmaxx minerals
ESN Multivitamin
3-4k IU D3
200mcg K2 mk7
ESN Omega3
>multi for men
>vit. b complex
>zinc
>lecithin
>calcium + magnesium
>also vit. e
daily vit-min stack
why E? there is some evidence it may actually be harmful
>caffeine pill in the morning
>L-arginine during the day
>melatonin at night
>replace all three with alcohol on weekends
AM:
400mg L Tyrosine
1gm Alcar
1.5gm Multi Vitamin powder
All three in 250ml Orange juice, used to wash down the following:
Fish oil
Turkesterone
Tongkat Ali
Vitamin D
Alpha GPC
At gym after this:
Preworkout with extra Beta Alanine and Citrine Malleate
BCAAs in 500m in 600 ml of water
PM:
Fishoil tablet
Turkesterone again
Ashwaganda
ZMA
I can highly recommend ashwaganha for anyone curious. Just stay consistent; if you take too many capsules it seems to desensitize you to it’s effects. The main effects I noticed were on my gains and mindset, it doesn’t really effect your sick that much. I was on 1 capsule daily and it kinda puts you into a really positive mindset. Like I couldn’t stop smiling at work and joking around with my coworkers.
please rate, i think it might be excessive
>NAD+
>NAC
>Resveratrol
>B1
>Boron
>Iodine
>Iron
>lactomato
>Milk Thistle
How much iron and how much iodine? Have you noticed a difference in taking either?
>Iron 65mg a day
>Iodine 391micrograms /day
im a vegetarian so the iron is defiantly noticeable, iodine is a recent addition, so to early to tell
You don't need supplementary iron. The issue with your diet is that you don't get enough b12 and copper. And those two are responsible for the absorption of iron. You need just them
very basic
just D+K2 and omega3 because I don't eat fish very often
would take ZMA and copper but what the frick is the ratio between the 2 because too much/too little of either of those can frick you up
can anyone here help me with this?
>would take ZMA and copper but what the frick is the ratio between the 2 because too much/too little of either of those can frick you up
>can anyone here help me with this?
Firstly the reason too much zinc can deplete copper is because it can prevent copper from being absorbed. That being said, if you just stick to a reasonable zinc dose every day it won't be an issue and you don't need to take copper. Too many companies make supplements with way too much fricking zinc in them. Remember you're still getting a good (not perfect) amount of zinc from food as long as you eat relatively healthy, so I would recommend supplementing with no more than 15mg of zinc a day to get an optimal health outcome. Personally I take nootropics depot zinc once a day which has like 8mg in it. It's more than enough on top of my diet. If I have a particularly big workout I'll take 2 of those.
thanks for the informative answer
cheers
CTRL-F no creatine
WTF?
I took creatine for about 10 years. I stopped for no real reason, just a whim to take a break. I lost a bit of size and number of reps I could do. The girls I was dating at the time all told me my face looked more chiseled. For that reason I put off getting back on it, and I never did. Didn't see a loss of strength and life and my workouts went on. I imagine it's useful for young athletes but for an old fart like me I don't see the benefit anymore.
Daily:
-Primarily whole foods diet which includes fruit, veg, starches, seafood, CLO, dairy, meat and eggs.
Occasionally, seasonally or as needed:
-Magnesium
-Zinc
-Tribulus
-D3
-Ginseng
-Melatonin XR
-L Theanine
If you take something like magnesium or zinc daily what's your reason for not eating enough good food to get basic essential minerals?
>multi
>fish oil
You homosexuals gotta eat more they're frickin supplements not your whole frickin diet
>multi
>fish oil
You morons gotta eat more they're frickin supplements not your whole frickin diet
adderall, xanax, lexapro, depakote, lithium
By the kilo, no doubt
Daily
B-50 complex
500 mg C
2000 iu D in the winter
400 iu Natural E
100 or 200 mcg selenium
One carrot
2 cups of tea
Couple times a week
100 mcg chromium
Resveratrol
Kelp
3 mg Boron
magnesium
zinc
calcium
>One carrot
>2 cups of tea
These are not supplements, anon.
3mg of boron is waaay to low, you need at least 9mg, and try cycling it 14 days on, 7 off
i started taking zinc and now i have vivid dreams every single night
usually i dont dream at all so its weird. its been kinda fun so far but last night i started a vivid nightmare right before i woke so now im worried im gonna get night terrors if i keep taking it lol
The only reason I take creatine is that I bought a big jar and I don't want to waste it. It doesn't seem to do much.
Taurine
Milk thistle
citrulline malate on lift days
Sometimes lugol's solution, like once a week if that.
And ever since I got the coof: quercetin, zinc and NAC (with some liver here and there for the zinc not to cause copper defficiency)
What multi are you all taking?
About to run out of my Olly one and need a new one.
This is what I'm currently taking:
Magnesium L-Threonate 144mg
Omega 3s 2000mg
Vitamin D3 10k IUs
Zinc 10mg
Would there be any benefit in increasing my vitamin d3 dose? Also thinking of increasing zinc but worried about copper deficiency, however I do have autism so I might have too much copper already.
>Would there be any benefit in increasing my vitamin d3 dose?
No, if anything you should probably lower it
>Also thinking of increasing zinc but worried about copper deficiency
Your zinc dose is perfect as long as you're eating healthy, see
And your opinion on vit d3 based on?
Normal dose for vit d3 is 20k iu. Lower is just not to get rickets. But you won't get all other benefits with that.
The real answer is to take blood tests for vit d3 and keep it on the level of 50-80 ng/ml
>Normal dose for vit d3 is 20k iu
What the frick are you talking about?
Id hope he means weekly dose, but he might just be moron
it's you moronic if you think 400 iu is enough. you need at least 15k to reach 50ng/ml. The lower level is a deficiency state.
Educate yourself before spitting nonsense.
>Vitamin D3 10k IU
>no K2
http://www.vitamindprotocol.com/
what do i take to get the big cums (besides obvious ones on the Cum Holy Grail)
L-arginine and zinc.
>L-arginine
lmaooooo this Black person doesn't know your liver just steals 70% of the arginine you eat, while citrulline malate turns into arginine once it hits your bloodstream, therefore being a superior source of arginine.
If you take l-arginine instead of citrulline malate you're just NGMI.
>He doesn't take l-ARRRGinine for the name alone
ngmi
>Omega 3 2000mg
>Vitamin D3 5000 IU
>Zinc 50 mg
>Lecithin 1200mg
>Selenium 200mg
>L-Arginine 1000mg
Gonna drop the L-Arginine after I'm done with this bottle because I don't really need it.
Frick meant 200mcg for Selenium
>Gonna drop the L-Arginine after I'm done with this bottle because I don't really need it.
Why did you take it in the first place?
>so many anons taking arginine
You need to take citrulline you fricking morons. Taking citrulline increases arginine levels better than taking arginine itself does. If you want improved blood flow/pump arginine isn't actually going to work, you need citrulline
Has anyone tried Kava? I heard it helps with anxiety. I'm thinking on trying it and seeing if it helps with my toilet anxiety
>toilet anxiety
Just use the stall like everyone else.
The only supp that helps pissing in front of people is getting plastered.
>taking supplements
Do Americans really
My grandma used boron to kill wienerroaches.
All I can say is be careful with noots/supps, do actual research and introduce things slowly one at a time. It's easy to think because stuff is natural or supposedly good for you to spend frickloads of money, start taking everything all at once and not know what to do when stuff starts going wrong, it can be addicting to constantly be buying and looking stuff up or fuel health anxiety/hypochondria etc.
Random stuff off the top of my head:
Zinc: Can induce copper deficiency
Iodine: Can make your thyroid worse instead of better, among other things
Ashwaghanda: Can cause insomnia, anhedonia, depression, mood problems... stuff it can also help
Vitamin D: High doses (but lower than what I see mentioned here) in the evening can inhibit melatonin production
ALCAR (acetyl carnitine)/NALT (n-acetyl tyrosine or regular l-tyrosine): Insomnia/(hypo-)mania even when taken extremely early in the day
L-Theanine: can cause insomnia rather than help
Magnesium threonate: can cause withdrawals and trouble sleeping when stopped
Glycine / Magnesium Glycinate: can cause or contribute to insomnia rather than help for some
NAC: Insomnia, anhedonia
Green tea extract: Acute liver toxicity/failure when taken without food
Frick it, so many supps can cause or contribute to stuff like insomnia, even creatine.
Is 50mg DHEA a day going to frick me up? I feel amazing
>zinc+copper
Zinc blocks Copper absorption that's moronic.
i remember recommending l-tyrosine on this site a while ago
while performance wise its one of the best nootropics its side effects are really not nice to deal with and are all symptoms of mental illness one way or another
What side effects?
>Since copper and retinol are essential for the production of ceruloplasmin, it follows that the integration of vitamin D through the supplementation of cholecalciferol, can lead to a dysregulation in the production of this fundamental protein, with consequent oxidative stress and inflammation, precursor of the plethora of degenerative and chronic diseases that we know well.
Furthermore, the antagonism between vitamin D and A has very important direct implications in the regulation of immune and inflammatory responses through the effects on the expression of genes related to the production of CD14 and CD23 cells.
>Obviously, the gurus of integration can argue that it is necessary to balance the intake and integrate in an "intelligent" way, but the truth is that we cannot know a priori the necessary amount of vitamin D for our organism, while the self-regulation that occurs consequently to the exposure to UVB radiation, it leads our body to produce only the strictly necessary quantity, in perfect harmony and balance with the other nutrients of which, some, science does not even know what they are and how and how much they interact in the complex mechanism.
https://www.evolutamente.it/en/Vitamin-D-supplementation-and-ceruloplasmin-dysregulation/
interesting. Thanks!
Is BPC 157 good for you?
Morning:
>200mg caffeine
>200mg modafinil
>0-15mg adderall
>500-1,000 mg phenibut
Afternoon/evening:
>50-70mg dmaa
>100-300mg caffiene
>10mg cialis
Night:
>zinc, magnesium, d3, k2, vit C, beta carotene
>melatonin+l-theanine
>finasteride
Boron rhymes with moron so you should definitely be taking it.
Vitamin D
Vitamin K2
Boron
Calcium
Ashwaghanda
Korean Ginger
Horny goat weed
Maca
Fish oil
Magnesium
Zinc
Vitamin C
Collagen
L-citrulline
A probiotic from Costco (also trying out Seed on recommendation from Derek and it's giving me awful diarrhea)
Thinking about adding in tongkat ali but it's hard to find a good seller.
>Korean ginger
Meant to say panax ginseng
i smoke crack and lift
fricking fight me