College freshman here. Recently joined a frat. Which was way out of my comfort zone as an introverted closet autist. How do I deal with getting the ever living shit hazed out of me i.e drinking beer and liquor, while managing to stay fit?
And how many fit users were in greek life. Tips/tricks on staying healthy while living like a degen?
they all look small and weak.
Some frats are feminine but some are hyper masculine
How to achieve this body naturally
Naturally insert a natural hypodermic needle forged from natural steel created from natural iron harvested naturally from the earth using tools that humans naturally create and combined with natural polymer from natural petroleum found underground that formed from natural organic matter and naturally inject the naturally derived exogenous testosterone into your natural butt cheek, naturally.
haahahahahahahaha
never understood the appeal of frats
literally paying for friendships
because they think they'll be the ones getting paid eventually
it's a real life crypto scam
You pay for any friend in one way or another. Time, attention, dinner, drinks, etc.
frats just takes that cost as a set number and spreads it across a large group. I personally joined because of the connections for future career, easier access to females, and higher status, because let’s face it, it is at least a little bit cool to be part of an exclusive “club” with secrets and rituals and shit like that.
Cope
frats are for dudes who didn't have any friends and didn't make them 1st semester of freshman years and secretly have super low self esteem. The only reason to join or rush is to take advantage of soristitutes. Women are allowed to join sororities because they all have low self esteem. I however would just go to frat parties and had some friends who were in frats and fucked the soristitues anyway, while saving 1000$ a year on frat dues.
>cool to be part of an exclusive “club” with secrets and rituals and shit like that.
In your mind.
>t. rejected and coping
What's wrong with paying for friends?
the paying for friends part LMFAO
What about it?
>he doesn't know
Know what?
people who are attractive or have something worthwhile to say get friends for free
because they bought those relationships with attractiveness and worthwhile skills. you can buy the development of those things as well.
very sociopathic way of looking at life but I guess you're not wrong
it's only sociopathic if there's no feelings involved and you objectify people.
nooo they're brothers the paying is a normal thing okay!!!
Tell me you were raised by a single mother without telling me
Basically because the drinking age in america is 21, you can’t just go to a bar or a club and get drunk with all your friends. Of course, at age 18-20, that’s pretty much all anyone wants to do. The fraternity effectively becomes the legal loophole like some kind of 1920’s speakeasy. Everyone (the police) in a college town knows the parties they throw cater to the underage, and everyone lets it slide because of tradition and culture. Its like speeding on the highway. And they fill the role of bars and clubs efficiently. They have a known location, usually all nearby to each other, they will almost certainly be open on a Friday or Saturday night, and you don’t really need an invitation if you are a cute girl.
All told, this allows the fraternity to control access to drunk 19 year old pussy, and thats why everyone wants to become a member.
>All told, this allows the fraternity to control access to drunk 19 year old pussy, and thats why everyone wants to become a member.
Just make a tinder account for free instead of being a frat gay
Not the same as having hordes of girls wearing their skimpiest whores clothes making their way to a house you rent with your boys, so they can get obliterated on your cheapest liquor, all unprompted by you. And you get to pick who else is allowed in the party. Not saying this is good or bad, but they asked why you would want to join, and I answered the question.
Man I wish I wasnt such an autistic fat fuck in college. I went to a few frat parties at other schools and can confirm its this
Never got laid at one and just nailed trashy fat girls off tinder. Almost did by some super hot girl who had a cherry popping fetish but got cockblocked unfortunately, was literally in her dorm and my "friend" made up some emergency so that I had to leave cus he was jealous. Im glad I woke up and got IST but it happened way too late.
Its not about friends its about status, its basically a way for stuck up shitbrains with rich parents to make sure they only fuck other stuck up shitbrains. Because the people who run the frats are powerful people in frats get to cheat on tests by having resources sent to them early, thats an open secret that a lot of people dont know and its the reason people put up with hazing. Its another one of the fucked up bullshits of for profit universities.
The payment goes towards your rent… of living in a borderline mansion? Also goes towards home improvements and shit for parties
>t. Didn't get a bid
Much easier to socialize and not end up being a lonely sperg in your adult life. And more importantly, connections. You'll be surprised how much easier is to find a good job if you know someone who knows someone
Dude, it's undergrad. So easy to meet people, male friends and chicks, with or without a frat. With the barest minimum of social skills simply by virtue of living in dorms or near campus you will have a large co-ed group of friends who you see multiple times per week. You don't need a frat.
A frat is a crutch for socially anxious guys, they feel more comfortable socializing with the added structure and belongingness, but they would be fine without it.
Imagine living with 40 of your bros, like 5 of them are your best friends, in a shitty house where there's no fucking rules and people are constantly drunk and high.
this.
all frats are different , some are shit, some are awesome, some depend on your personality.
I'd rather live with 9 of my best friends in a house where there's no fucking rules and people are constantly drunk and high.
>muh roads
Ill explain why. Instant social cred and access to a massive network, including postgrad. Filters out poor and weird antisocials.
I got my first job out of college through my frat, and now make 200k at 28
Results may vary on quality of the house and org you join. Make sure the fraternity you join has good national presence, not just one good chapter.
>Join frat
>Make meaningful networks
>A lot of the dudes parents are "fuck you rich"
>Land a awesome job because of networking with my frat brothers
The world is made to be ruled by the few.
>The world is made to be ruled by the few.
Especially when the majority (poor and retarded) cannot grasp even the most fundamental money-making concepts like networking.
>paying to hang out with garden gnomes
This is your brain on 4chan
I knew several people in frats in my 1st year in college (after which I dropped out) the vast majority of them were garden gnomes.
you can drink a lot and still go about your workout routine as normal. just use common sense and don't be an autist about it. strategically time your gym days so your drinking days don't interfere
>use common sense
>don't be an autist
Bro, this is IST. If he could do either of those two things, he wouldn't be asking for advice here.
if you think being hazed is drinking a few beers and having some shots you're a fucking fag, dude
my uni looked down on greek life so people generally had cliques within their majors, it's fun
you'll have a good time, get drunk, do some drugs every now and then, and remember to go to class
I rushed in 2014, joined my frat but fell off with alot of the guys after I got suspended for a semester. I really wouldn't be worried about the hazing. These days, atleast at my university, administration has them by the balls. Rushees have to do shit like wear wristbands through the entire week of rush. Curfew-style check-in at the library purposefully made to take as long as possible to keep people from going out at night. Even had a nice little snitch system to report other frats breaking the rules and taking rushees out to drink or party. It's so hard to do anything even close to hazing and get away with it. The most you'll probably do is play Thunderstruck at parties and DD most of your pledge semester weekends.
This + morning workouts and late night meetings on a weekday and cleaning the filthy fucked up frat house after parties. All these frat guys do is gossip like literal women Im not NPC brained enough to get into their social politics so I just stopped showing up
Workout with your brothers.
Stock only quality food.
And this is crazy but the most important Don’t drink every weekend. You’re not “making memories” if you’re blacking out. What I did was times I went to the gym per week was #of drinks I could have. You genuinely don’t need more than 7 drinks in a night to have a decent time.
>rushes a fraternity, does well socially to get accepted, will be doing extremely social things while there
>tee hee im so introverted and also an autist
This. The fact he even got in a frat shows he’s not an autist and is just self conscious instead. An actual autist would never have gotten a bid
It could be one of those really nerdy frats.
My Dad was in a frat. He was Animal House before Animal House came out. I'm sure a lot of the kids don't get that reference. Old school frats were cool now its trust fund kids. Some came from rich families back then too. It's crazy how wealthy and successful his class was/is. Its been a swish for 40-50 + years for most of these guys. You can see why they have such big egos and think they are geniuses when its all gone right.
>fitness
Currently a senior in a frat. First off, chances are your hazing will be just some tolerable shit. You should be able to stay in shape while going through that. In general, just try to take into account that you’ll be drinking into your daily calorie count and be aware of that. And try to get enough sleep to ensure proper recovery. One tip I’d recommend is dedicating at most two days a week to partying. Maybe it’s Thursday and Friday, or Friday and Saturday. Choose two at most. If you’re coming into a frat already fit, you’ll be fine. Have a great time and make some great memories. One last warning tho: be wary of drinking a lot around fat chicks. I’ve seen it happen too many times where a fat girl will try and take advantage of a blacked out drunk fit frat dude.
>I’ve seen it happen too many times where a fat girl will try and take advantage of a blacked out drunk fit frat dude.
Haha how horrible would that be.
I mean if you’re into that stuff then it’s great I guess lmao but I imagine most dudes would prefer to wake up next to an athletic 8 than a fat 2 lol.
Its not that horrible until the next morning when all your friends make fun of you
>Tolerable shit
Idk what school you’re at m8 but here the new kids have to eat the bagel (senior puts dick in bagel hole and new kid has to suck and eat bagel) and also have concrete jumps where they land on their knees on the sidewalk 10 times, one dude got put in a wheelchair for a couple months cause of it.
>t. Obviously I go to a big school that cares about frats and cfb
Either this is geed rumors, big schools actually do have a fucked up Greek culture, or I'm getting too old. Probably all 3 honestly
Not gay at all bro
Nah we don’t have that type of shit. The stuff I’ve seen tends to not be as extreme as that, cuz that bagel and jumping shit sounds wild tbh. I’m at a mid size school but yeah I’ve heard similar stuff at bigger schools so I believe it tbh.
Do other countries do this or is it just in the US? why is there so much gay humiliation rituals in higher education? It blows my mind how easily these seemingly masculine guys will throw out their dignity for access to pussy they already have access to now in the age of tinder
Tinder doesn't even come close to frat pussy and fags have been abusing their power to sa guys for all time.
Circumcision made americans pretty fucked up people
>paying to be in an organization is bad because... IT JUST IS OKAY??
geed pls
Don't be a pussy and you'll be fine. Just go to the gym with your brothers and if none of them lift then you picked the wrong frat
Become the guy that smokes pot instead. Helps get you out of the party scene when you’re always chill and not as energetic as all the drunk people. You signed up for this so some degree of hazing will happen unless you are fine with getting kicked out.
frats are sports teams for people who can't walk on.
this
I transferred schools midway through college; one had a social life built around frats which were all just a bunch of gay nerds/date rapists/alcoholics/drugged up gays, and the other school was all D1 athletes and the parties couldn't have been any more different. The athletes were way more fun to be around, even as an autistic ISTcel
Loved being in a fraternity at an all engineering college, pretty chill tbh. Never got hazed too hard...don't be a pussy about it but don't be afraid to not participate or say no if it's some weird shit or if you can't handle it
>don't be a pussy about it but don't be afraid to not participate or say no if it's some weird shit or if you can't handle it
The places with real bad rituals don't really let you know what you're in for.
I'd like to think everyone has the common decency to let someone bail if they don't want to keep going, even if they get dropped for it. But that's probably wishful thinking
We had a couple kids give up during hell week during the time i was there
Same. We usually made them stay at the house to sober up and sleep some but we never forced anyone to keep going if they wanted out. Lawsuit and horrible reputation waiting to happen
>Neck tatt and sleeve
That retard should have made better life choices. White collar work, which he's presumably aiming for by going to college, isn't hip enough for neck tatts
normie here, here are your tips
>staying healthy while living like a degen
you don't HAVE to drink a ton. What's 6 beers, like 600 calories? Maybe 3x per week? Just factor that into your feeding plan.
Frat is a smart move as a freshman because it expands your social network. Just remember to make a lot of friends outside the frat too, because most people are NOT in greek life, and even think it's fucking lame. So you'll want to get into non-greek social circles/events.
Like other anons said, the most important thing is to not fucking disgrace yourself with alcohol, do not just keep pounding shots because other guys tell you to. You will black out, piss yourself, fall over the place, puke on girls, get fucking arrested or some other retarded disgraceful move. It could unironically ruin your life. If you feel yourself starting to brown out, stop drinking and go home, you're done for the night, and if you're that drunk no girl will fuck you unless she's 400lb. If some bro is handing you another shot and you're already trashed, do not take that fucking shot.
Basically that's it - don't isolate yourself with just a frat, and do not make a debacle of yourself with alcohol. It's 500x cooler to be the chill guy in control than the loser who's too drunk to talk to girls.
This, and DO NOT MIX DRUGS IN. Was handed Xanax once having no idea what it did after I was already drunk...let's just say I didn't end up getting a bid from that frat
right - don't even fucking do drugs.
>weed
makes you a goofy loser
>coke/molly/adderall/other uppers
unironically you will become a dependent cokehead and better yet, fuck up your dopaminergic pathways, for 15 minutes of fun do NOT do these
>opiates, downers
lmao retard
>LSD, shrooms, etc
these are unironically fine, but good for like a camping trip or a chill weekend, you wouldn't want to do these at any kind of college party
>Don't smoke weed because that makes you a goofy loser
>Drink 6 beer it's ok
lmao, smoke a joint instead of having to drink 600 calories and develop a drinking problem later on
better off eating the weed and sparing your lungs
People who join frats are pathetic tbqh
Hope you did your research because when I was in college being in a shitty frat was worse than not being in a frat at all.
fratgots get the rope
>Which was way out of my comfort zone as an introverted closet autist.
Don't be dissuaded by the autist gays here, OP. Yes there are gay frats and cool ones, hopefully you picked a cool one. (Do the best sororities do events with your frat? If yes then it's a cool one if no then enjoy your gay sex).
But you little zoomies are incomprehensibly socially retarded to prior generations. Your idea of forced personal interaction is exactly on point. If you're lucky you'll make a couple of lifelong friends and a couple dozen good acquaintances while your nonbinary communist classmates will make zero.
I also joined a frat recently. I don't get what the fear of them is. If you're considering paying dues to a university organization just so you have an atmosphere where people your age will tolerate your existence around them, your problem is not whatever dumb shit they think is a good time. Your problem is that you are not in college for a serious reason or that you're so socially inept that joining this organization seemed like a better idea than making friends within your major.
Your life isn't going to change much. You will still be friendless, you will still be unattractive to women, and your solitary copes will remain all you have.
>Tips/tricks on staying healthy while living like a degen?
Not joining degenerate environments. Contrary to what you might think, you can leave these chucklefucks at any time and nothing will happen. However, even if you are in one, just cook for yourself, go to the gym, and consider buying earplugs to go to sleep at night now that you've willingly entered an environment that could potentially be loud at dumbass o'clock.
If it's seriously about just alcohol, weed, etc, tell them you don't want to drink it when it's offered to you. That's what I did. More for them, they don't care.
A bigger question to consider is: what are you doing with your tuition bro? Are you actually studying something rigorous? Don't waste these years of your life man, buckle down and minmax these grades.
Why did I scroll through this weird normie thread ugh
All you guys can think about is whether each of your actions is cool or uncool and cool=pussy uncool=nopussy. Get off my board
You would've been hazed already during the joining process. Your post is bs.
Hazing often happens throughout your whole first year, not as bad as the initial week of course but in my union the first years did all the nasty chores and were made fun of
leave. frat bros are some of the most idiotic people I know
I watch a lot of american movies and frat shit is something I'll never understand and don't see any appeal in it. So cringe and weird
and stay out.
enjoy sucking cock with your homo gay frat shit amerilard cuck
>Drinking loads of alcohol
>Being fit and healthy
Pick one.
I was a mature student, roughly 5-6 years older than my classmates. I also went to one of the universities in my city.
I mainly studied in the library, went to class and hung out with my best friend who was a master's student at the time. 2-3 days a week went to the gym on campus too.
I regret not joining a frat, it seems like an alpha thing to do
>drinking beer and liquor, while managing to stay fit?
I spent my entire college years alone in my room on my computer and this thread makes me want to kill myself thinking of the missed opportunities
frankly, it should
youll want to have a nice day even morer realizijg that youre going to be alone the rest of your life. college is the easiest place ever to meet people yourr age and you couldnt do it. youll never have friends or a relationship and a lifetime of misery awaits you unless you get the courage to have a nice day
>t. same thing that you did
I did the same thing because I was a socially anxious fuckup 17 year old when I started. Now that I am a somewhat more well adjusted adult I just go to metal festivals I meet people there, it's basically the same thing but you can pick what music you wanna listen to.
before you ask no I never got a gf
you picked the worst genre
t. metalhead
Mate 95% of people stay in their room in college, the people that only party drop out pretty fast. Real life start after you got a job, don't believe the propaganda of 'college is the best time of your lfie'
i'm going out and partying more than ever now with bills and rent to pay, i'm way happier also
was in college 10 years ago and the thought of being in a fraternity terrified me. literally terrified me. the thought of being in a house with a ton of guys. the chaotic terror of a huge frat party with tons of alcohol and drugs and guys and girls around and insanely loud music. things most people fund fun and exciting, i found horrific. i tried to go to their parties a few times and literally ran away after a few minutes, legit RAN out of the door to get back to being alone. im not even introverted or a nerd who spent his time instead studying math or engineering or whatever else. just felt like a completely different species from everyone else.
of course i am jealous of normal people who join fraternities, people who probably made lifelong friends, had tons of fun, lots of sex, countless memories, and it probably also helps their careers in the future. sure i've heard some negative things about fraternities but the positives seem to outweigh them 10 to 1.
Wow man, your post really bummed me out. Hang in there.
I hate loud parties as well. What you describe isn't a big deal. You're just making it into a big deal.
It isn't just loud parties though. Guys in fraternities are better people than everyone else. Like this guy
his story is basically every fraternity guy. Grew up rich (insults the poors), grew up social god (insults the antisocial weirdos), also a genius who earns a top 1% salary thanks to his god tier social skills, looks, and intelligence. I couldn't even fathom living a life as good and easy as a chad like that guy has. It's literally a different species from me. Totally incomprehensible
Why do you compare yourself to him, who cares.
Well the topic at hand is talking about fraternities and my original post was saying how people in fraternities were like a completely different species from me and a guy like that is the prime example. Rich, social, and obviously a genius with his 200k salary so probably had the intellect to be an engineer, doctor, lawyer, or whatever else while also already being rich and a social chad as well. I feel like a completely differrent species from the successful fraternity guys, like I can't even fathom what a life like that would even feel like, the level of unending happiness you must have in all your waking hours.
actually I am quite boring and my job is extremely stressful. It is sales and I am an introvert. I am currently just stocking as much money away as possible so that when I can no longer stand the burnout, I plan to sell everything and travel around Europe until I have burned though 100k or so, or until I am bored and then evaluate. I guess it could be worse, but it's not all roses either.
If I were a god would I be on here?
>makes 200k in "sales"
wtf
Hahahahahhaha, if you think that's tough to compare yourself to, consider the genetic elite who get into MIT or Stanford on athletics (full ride btw), but still have the academic chops to make it through a CS or Physics degree.
Don't you have your own problems or life to worry about then how some rich frat Chad is living?
▶
>
im not a chad though. I grew up middle class and paid my own dues with money I made working on a golf course (great IST job and great connections too btw)
I am moderately attractive and in college I was somewhat fit but not ripped and couldve lost a few pounds.
Socially, I am somewhat shy and awkward at times but get by on humor. Well read and spoken with varying hobbies, which allows my mind autism to be seen as 'quirky'
What I am good at is sensing and sieving opportunity. Managed to befriend a brother at the house and he helped me rush. Managed to find some successful alumni who took a liking to me and I made sure to make myself available at networking events and they saw that I was hungry.
Just try it tbh - worst that happens is you drop and have some stories for when you're a boring late 20's
It's worth it. Put yourself out there and learn how to be funny and not take shit from people.
Just say no to alcohol entirely. Very easy, exudes power. If you say yes to some alcohol they will push for more. Degen life is not fit. Make up your mind.
I'm jealous. My university banned greek life after a freshman died.
I was a grungy hipster in the 2010's but looking back on it, all the parties and drinking and girls were pretty awful and not worth it (for free). I can't imagine a subscription-based model.
please die I hate your generation with all my soul please have a nice day and everyone else you know thanks