I'm in so much pain, bros. How do I fix this without surgery? I've tried everything short of injections directly into the spine. If those don't work, doctor says I need surgery. Any exercises or stretches, or just advice in general on how to fix it would be appreciated.
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It’s over. Tell us how it happened so that we may lift in your stead.
Frick, I wish I had a good story to tell with it. I was just a grocery store cashier. Started having pain one day like 6 years ago, don't even know what I did. I kept working through the pain for like 4 years until I had to quit because it hurt to bad, and it took doctors this long to figure out what it was. I just want to feel normal again. Just thought maybe some bros here would know something I could do.
So you’re telling me this has nothing to do with fitness? Is that what you are saying right now op?
I'm asking how I can improve my fitness from my current state, so I think it does. Asking for exercises and stretches qualifies right? I want to improve myself without surgery, just don't know the path to take or if there even is one. I've tried lots of physical therapy and it hasn't worked, and maybe someone here knows something I haven't tried.
You should have thought about being fit before you worked some job where you had to use your body all day. Get surhery
Traction maybe? Something like a teeter hangup could give some relief if it doesn't frick you worse anyway.
I've tried that and I get the impression it might help if the weight was enough, but this is just below my neck, my head just doesn't weight enough to pull things into place. Not sure about trying to tie weights to my head or something, feels like there is a huge potential to make things worse if I screw up.
Yeah, it was 8 hours a day, 5 days a week for years. Not worth it at all, I would rather be homeless if I knew this would happen.
maybe you should try the injections man, maybe also check with another doctor to see what they think? If more than 1or 2 doctors thinks that you should get surgery then that's it ...
that sucks man ... did you used to work standing up? 8hrs a day standing up in the same posture isn't healthy
should've join the army, they pay you 2k+ a months for shit like that
Not him but don't ever do sumo deadlifts. Conventional never hurt me but what did was sumo fricking deadlift speedpulls, so not even heavy, because the homosexuals at /plg/ claimed Westside isn't a meme.
Don't do any deadlifts like ever. They're an ego exercise to show off with, that's why they always do that goofy face and drop the bar as hard as they can when they finish.
You're the lady yelling at the teenagers in the commercial gym aren't you?
I won’t brutha.
story?
Did a car fall on you?
Does your dink still work?
do hanging therapy (grab a pull up bar or something you can hang from and just hang there for around three minutes total a day)
take b3 (increases blood flow)
take omega fatty acids
take magnesium in high doses
do yoga
go to a sports physio therapist
do light body weight calisthenics if and when you feel up to it.
look up yoga for herniated disk
go to a sauna
take hot epsom salt baths
go to a steam room
take vitamin k2
get a chinese medicine Black person to inject bee venom into your spine
tiger balm
capsaicin cream
arnica
don't trust doctors they are Black folk and want to cut you and cripple you and get you addicted to drugs
Well, at least some of that stuff doesn't sound completely insane, I'll look into the vitamins and the exercise stuff, but bee venom?
Bee stings have helped people with all sorts of random shit before and I agree with the hangs they might give you that weight you need to decompress up top.
get the platelet injections in your spine dumbass
Dude, It's not that I don't want to get injections, I'm just waiting on the referral to a doctor to do them. Surgeon doesn't do them, it's a different guy. I only got diagnosed with this just a few days ago. I just want to look into other avenues in case the injections don't work.
You lift and exercise to strengthen up after the injury has been treated to minimize pain and prevent reinjury. You still have to get it treated, you can't just fix a fully herniated disc with exercise. Get the injections and surgery if need be, then do very careful neck and upper back exercises. idk probably super lightweight neck curls and trap work? anyway get treatment first regardless.
Yeah, you're right, I'm just nervous about it. I really want to be sure I've done everything before surgery. And absolutely, I will do everything I can to keep this in shape after the fact. I just kinda wish there was something else besides surgery. I'll probably have to get it, I guess I'm just trying to grasp at straws looking for some miracle cure. It sucks.
yeah I'm sorry anon, but with something like a fully herniated disc I don't think you can get out of it. steroid injections can help a lot in some cases, though, so don't lose hope yet. Just make sure that if they work you start gentle exercise as soon as you're pain free, because reinjury is really easy if you dont strengthen the area and a lot of people wind up needing to get them every 6-12 months
I feel a lot of pain in my back.
I think it's an hernia, I'm not going to the doctor, frick those israelites.
I still lift anyways, I might snap someday, but I'm not quitting, I'll lift till I die.
Just go to the doctor and get an x ray. You can always refuse whatever treatment they recommend but at least you'll know.
I don’t think that’s a hernia exactly lol. Maybe a herniated disc.
do NOT get the spinal steroid shots.
I had one. You'll have a spinal headache that will cripple you for a week after each shot.
>headache that cripples you for a week
>herniated disc that cripples you for the rest of your life
Hard choice
Yeah, I'm thinking the shots, I'm already crippled and in pain, can't get much worse than this
Aside from steroids (which will weaken you I believe, they’re not the muscle building ones) I think you can take cortisone shots too but those might be for joints only.
You are just a pussy. I've had them and they worked fine for a week.
OP, I had same problem. Took a year of doing nothing. Then 3 years of slowly working out to get close to normal. Not sure if it was worth it. I lost almost 5 years of my youth to it. Surgery would have been 1 year of rehab, not 5. But then surgery could frick you for life too.
Read back mechanic by stuart mcgill. It helped me with disc herniation. Have you tried prednisone and pt? I’d do that before an injection.
Try everything before surgery, once you have it you can never go back. If you’re young and your doc is pushing surgery get a second opinion
Yeah I've been in pt for a while now, but the exercises are irritating the affected nerve root, making the pain even worse. But that was before we knew exactly what the underlying problem was. Maybe there is some different set of exercises I can do now that we have a diagnosis. Haven't been on prednisone though. Is that ok to take long term? It might help with the inflammation, right? I'll talk to the doctor about prescribing it.
And yeah, I'm only 30, but this pain has already taken years of my life, so I feel like surgery is definitely on the table for me. I just want to be sure it's the only option left.
Anon, what is the problem with surgery for the herniated disc? If it resolves your issue, what is the drawback?
>t. I know nothing
I just think it seems risky, especially with how high up it is. If the surgeon fricks up, I'll be paralyzed from the armpits down. I don't exactly want to live like that, you know?
Prednisone is an oral steroid that they generally prescribe as 7 day cycle. It will help with the inflammation and could get you started down the right path. It’s less invasive than an injection. My doc preached trying less invasive/lower risk methods first before moving to the injection
Shit like this is why I keep pushing for heavier lifts. If you can get a hernia from fricking grocery store work then why even bother being such a b***h and worrying?
Don't feel like typing it all up, but you can fix that shit. Do not get surgery, surgeons will frick you up. There are exercises you can do to deload your spine and take the pressure off, just google it. Also do other tretches and shit to stay limber but most importantly fix your posture and figure out why you got the issue in the first place. It's most likely an imbalance somewhere in strength or flexibility or whatever. It takes a while but figure it out and fix the imbalance. I had a fricked back for years but I eventually fixed it. It can be done, with just simple stretches and shit. Frick surgery, frick steroids frick all that shit. They're only treating the symptoms they don't fix the actual problem.
Have the same but T5-S1. Went to a PT and she gave me some exercises to do. Big emphasis on back flexion. My symptoms are resolving slowly. Basically it sounds like it takes a few months to be pain free after something like this. Look up the Mckenzie method exercises. Also, I used to work in a radiology department where we would do spinal steroid injections. People usually had good results with them, but they are not a replacement for PT. Godspeed.
im confused. how tf does a disc herniate from being a cashier?
I cashiered very intensely. Was the fastest of everyone in the store by far. Prided myself on not needing help from baggers, not calling for backup cashiers, and solving everything without managers by knowing the system so well that I could bypass overrides in many situations when though I wasn't supposed to be able to. I was really really good at my job and became like a one man assembly line. My PT has been doing neuromuscular retraining with me because I was so good at my job that I completely fricked up all the normal usage of my muscles. Everything in the upper body was being used incorrectly because I found I could move more quickly that way. I guess if cashiering was a sport, I would have easily gone pro. It's fricking stupid that I dedicated myself to something like that, but I wanted to be good at my job. It's probably what did it. I overworked myself for nothing.
Kek, that sounds based. Your store should put you in a hall of fame
OP scanning items and fighting the register
They did actually give me a managers override of my own even though I wasn't a manager because of how good I was just for the few situations where I couldn't get out of it. But the store manager and me started not getting along because of unfair treatment of other workers in my department. I stood up for them one too many times and eventually got forced to transfer to a little gas station booth outside the store where I had no contact with other employees.
So my legend will never be known except here I guess.
I also overworked myself to be the best at my dogshit minimum wage job. Thankfully I stopped before I hurt myself, and in the end nobody appreciated my speed and precision. Still cringe at the thought of it though.
What's stupid is I could have done even just half as good a job and I still would have been better than everyone. And I wouldn't have been killing myself. I guess it's a lesson that you shouldn't use 100% of your potential 100% of the time. Bad idea.
Dead hangs till your blisters get blisters.
Single leg squats 3 x 20 a day every day (hang on to a post or something for balance)
single leg RLD 3 x 20 a day
Swimming once a week.
Look up the athleanx videos for herniated discs. I've been hanging from a pull up bar and got into rock climbing and my pain has been much better. I went from not being able to walk at all to having relatively no pain until I have to walk up stairs. You need to decompress your back and then do the cobra stretch or whatever it's called to basically push the disc back to where it belongs. You also probably need to fix your posture. My thing is I have posterior pelvic tilt and a pretty much straight lower back with no curve. You can fix it and get better but do it fast before the damage to your nerves becomes permanent.
Thats fricked google decompressions therapy and go to a specialist in non invasive protocols since modern medicines solution is normally fuse then oxxy the rest of your life.
unironically look into chiro. it was invented for spinal stuff. allopathic medicine completely dismisses anything that isnt drugs but if your injury was caused by simple physical compression, manipulation and decompression with no drugs will be able to fix it.