My result is 421 ng/dl. This is ''normal'' but in the lower range.
What can I do to increase this? I'm in the UK so the doctors would probably turn me into a troony before they would ever prescribe me TRT.
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My result is 421 ng/dl. This is ''normal'' but in the lower range.
What can I do to increase this? I'm in the UK so the doctors would probably turn me into a troony before they would ever prescribe me TRT.
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If you're in the UK you can just buy it legally. I get mine from superdrug.
Could you link me what you buy? I actually had my test through Superdrug.
I get the testogel from them. What did your test say? It should be easy enough to get, mine was only marginal and they still let me have it.
I'm OP
They said 14.6 nmol/l which translates to 421 ng/dl
lol he’s memeing you. It is actually legal to possess steroids for personal use in the UK. It’s just illegal to sell them. The problem falls on the seller but gear is massively abundant in the UK. You could quite literally go on holiday anywhere they sell it OTC and bring it back with you on an aeroplane with no issues. Or just save yourself the hassle and have it delivered to your door. Or if you’re a mega moron just find a big c**t in your gym and get them to point you in the right direction
I don't want bodybuilder levels of T, just enough to make me feel good/normal.
I'm up north but thanks.
Can I buy on the dark web?
You buy it on the clearnet lol. Seriously. It’s very easy
have a dog on meso rx. It’s not a source. It’s. “Forum” where you can learn about such matters
he's not memeing. superdrug online doctor are doing TRT.
Oh I thought you meant without prescription otc. Yeah you can surely get it at any pharmacy with a script
I meant dig not dog. Its the wrong place for dogging information
HCG. Unless you want to properly cycle just do HCG, man.
Honestly it is normal. Stop being obsessed over it. My first bw i had ~400 ng/dl, i just asked for it when my thyroid etc was tested.
I was shocked at first too and since I didn't know that you should get shbg + free test too i got it done like a month later and i had ~650 ng/dl total and normal shbg.
both were taken at 7am and i literally didn't try fixing anything, i actually wanted to get a super low reading so i could get on TRT so i had eaten like shit, slept 3 hours etc. yet it was still 50% higher. I know for a fact that I can improve my sleep, diet and take all the meme supplements like tongkat ali, ashgwanda, then the usual zinc etc. and while they are not steroids the fact that it can range that much I'm 100% sure doing the above mentioned I can get it to +800.
It's just unique, your body may not need to produce more than that lower range because it functions properly already. i know people with >1000 ng/dl test and they feel all the low t symptons, cant get morning wood and so on. Stop overthinking it, it's most likely not a problem for you unless you make it one.
Like I said, I entirely believe I can get my levels to ~800 if i testomaxx naturally and that is range where a lot of actual TRT treatments put you, not this american men's clinic bullshit. If you want to roid, then just roid and be done with it. It's way cheaper anyways to go UGL.
I'm not shocked though, I've suspected I've had low T for some time
I don't get morning wood anymore, I did regularly when I was 19 (I'm 24 now)
I've had anxiety and low mood for years
I don't lift atm but I fasted and sleep before I did the test
I just want to feel like a man should
I also have very little facial hair, basically non-existent
My arms are no hairier than a teenage girls' arms
I've got bald patches on my body
My face is very fat, somebody said I look 16
i have no facial hair either
i have bald patches too
im 28 and i look underaged also
and my levels were 650 last time with literally no effort put in to make them higher. they were just naturally over 50% more than first time. i literally had lower test than you the first time
i get it because i was in your position ~1 month ago and i tried to find all the justification to get on TRT but it's just not going to be magic. you wont turn into a mass monster big man with a hard wiener 24/7. fix your life first and get to 12% bodyfat then let's see again. anyways 1 reading doesnt mean shit btw, you will have to do atleast 3 and keep doing bloodworks for the rest of your life
>get to 12% bodyfat
Any tips of doing this?
I have a large calorie deficit atm and I'm losing pounds gradually
My current diet consists of
Breakfast: Cereal with almond milk
Lunch: Tinned soup with 4 slices of wholemeal bread, apple + banana + tangerine
Dinner: 3 eggs with 2 slices of bread OR tuna with bread
Snacks: Blueberries
Drinks: Camomile tea, little bit of cordial/squash
well i didn't mean it like that either, im not native speaker. i had all low t symptons too so i expected it to be. but like i said there are people who expect it to be low and have all the symptons yet they are in the literal natty max limit.
how do you explain that? their levels couldn't be any higher yet they don't feel like a man, cant get their wiener hard. you are most likely just depressed and your life sucks etc. low t symptons are the most generic symptons ever. literally every single person on earth has low t symptons.
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If you're in London, especially south east I can sell you a vial myself, decided to stop using it. That should last you a while until doctors offer you anything
Get on TRT. I was at this level in my early 20s thinking I could change it but now at 27 I finalyl hopped on the juice and I regret not doing so back when I knew about it in the past. Anything 450 or less is absolutely worthless for building muscle. Your absolute best case scenario i to look like Brad Pitt from Fight Club.
To put in another way: your T levels are the same as the average 65yo man. Do with that info as you will.
it's literally not, i have a friend that benches 3pl8 for reps and he has 375 levels.
how the frick is 450 or less absolutely worthless for building muscle? guarantee you he is doing more than you on trt
I'm gonna assume he's also above 20% BF? I was able to do that as well but was a fatty. Once I tried to slim up lifting became a struggle.
T is over rated.
Like i’m 20 and I has 400ng/dL feel like shit, no libido, look 14 but at the same time i have facial hair growing and have hair on ma body.
I use testogel for the past 2 weeks or so, don’t really see anything changing.
I think my problems are more psychological though.
Or we’ll depends. Not exactly over rate, that is wrong. I think it’s worth a try though, definitely. They say it starts to kick in 3-6 weeks in.
I wouldn’t even do it if I wasn’t bored all the time.
And personally, I don’t even know if I like being horny after all. It is really annoying. I mean, I should be in my prime, but I haven’t had random boner ever since like 16. Looking back then, I was horny as frick before, not any more. I could go 4 days without jerking off. Now I usually do once or twice a day, but I still don’t get horny and I can touch my dick all I want. Although as I said, it’s kind of annoying me. Horny thoughts. Seems pretty pointless.
I’m also autistic, slightly, but i guess you already know.
Natty 1040 reporting in, but I'm still shmall and not Chad thunder wiener
As long as your above 250 I think you're fine tbh
look into online testosterone clinics if you're willing to pay for it
Thanks for the replies everyone
Question: Should I test for free testosterone? The test I did was for total testosterone.
yes you should but it's not gonna change anything. it will with a 99,99% certainty come in the low range just like your total test. Sure test it by all means but it's not gonna change anything to one way or another
You can either inject or optimize your hormonal profile by increasing cholesterol and saturated fat intake while lowering PUFA. Maybe even take small dose hormonal precursors like 50mg pregnenolone and/or 5mg dhea though these are not directly anabolic like test is, though they're cheap and legal to get without a script.
Oh and if you inject, try to avoid needing AI because I've watched AI directly rot my dad's brain. He's completely nuts now and he won't come off it because he's obsessed about "muh testosterone" even though he's old as frick and fat.
it's doesn't work the way you think it does. 800ng/dl does not double the amount of muscle you can develop. it doesn't cut recovery time in half. It makes very little difference.
the way TRT actually works, is that they get you up to 800 but the trick is it stays that high no matter what, instead of a natural which has all kinds of fluctuations and will tank hard when going below a certain body fat %, overtraining, eating shit, not sleeping etc. That's where the advantage comes from.
So raising your natural test is a complete waste of time it doesn't even fix things like mood, because those severe drops are still there and you haven't addressed the underlying cause.
I'm not a lifter, I don't really belong on IST
I just want to feel more confident and normal - of course the autism doesn't help
>I just want to feel more confident and normal
lift
I started doing it again after a few years break but I'm having issues with my heart so have stopped
It does feel good but gets mundane quickly, I find
Maybe I'm just depressed
Ive been lifting for 10 years, shit results - got full blood work done a few weeks ago
Test : 290 ng/dl
SHBG: forgot exactly, range is like 7-65, mine was like 50. Higher SHBG = bad
test wasnt even my problem
i sleep like shit, no morning wood, 0 sexual interest because apparently i suffer from depression
i always thought this was just my normal but im sick in the head
oh well, i can always go to the gym
we all gonna make it haha...
>What can I do to increase this?
openly deny the holocaust where police can hear you