>tfw I found out that the ancient Greek heroes weren't real. Why even lift?

>tfw I found out that the ancient Greek heroes weren't real
Why even lift?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In order to smash your cock with a rock

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >grug if he chud

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      smash your cock with a rock

      What is your endgame cock smasher?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty obviously to get people to smash their cocks with a rock. Speaking this, smash your cock with a rock

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what cheap knock-off skeletor is this?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Zarak

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why is he posted like that

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely. I am one reincarnated.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ok, who's going to tell him about Santa?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Santa is real. Denying it is just a conspiracy theory. Like what, you think that all parents just go out and buy the presents for their kids? And that they're ALL in on some sort of santa coverup for no reason? Dont you think that sounds a little ridiculous?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        redpilled

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        kek underrated

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The alphabets will visit you soon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      santa is real u fucking retard. explain to me this - how does everyone somehow know how he looks like?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Santa is black.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no u retard that's julius caesar

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    we don't lift to become greek heroes, we simply lift because it is better than not to lift. that's all there is to it.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Achilles was very real, and the entirety of the trojan war. Up until Heinrich Schliemann discovered Troy, everyone in the academic world thought that it was just myth, but Schliemann changed everything and everyone that rejected the truth of the trojan war had to reconsider their position.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Schliemann
      Isn't that the bro who blew Troy up with explosives?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes, very sad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I chose to believe that the events (exept the gods) depicted in the Iliad are mostly true and that the main figures did indeed exist.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >doesn't worship the PIE ancestral spirits that once took the guise of north Mediterranean gods
        Not gonna make it (to Elysium).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Atheists will get into the ovens with the rest of the garden gnome controlled subhumans

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Polytheists and atheists are one and the same

          • 2 months ago
            Reddit Randy

            Imagine being so low IQ

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No they literally aren't.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Christians are atheists.
            >That was an outrage. The Romans wouldn’t have minded Christians performing their own rites and following their own dictates, but only if they didn’t deny the Roman gods. Since they did, instead of getting "the cult of Christ" fitted into the grand scheme of things, they were denounced as atheists.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's as retarded as saying polytheists are atheists.
              Also, I do believe the Roman gods were a real thing. But my God is superior.
              >t. a Christian

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Certainly not a tautology but the wise know this is truer than it seems

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The pseuds, maybe. Faith is beyond religion fairy tales. Atheism is a reaction, as is its opposite, superstition. Monotheism and polytheism is a different expression of the same thing. If you call anything that goes against your religion atheism, you have superstition.
              I recommend reading Plutarch's on superstition and you will realize the two terms (polytheism and atheism) are not the same in any way or form. You will (probably) also realize the good in having faith.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I highly doubt that the Trojan horse or the 1v1 battles happened

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The most believable scenario is the Trojan horse being an allegory for "if it's too good to be true, it probably is". Additionally, in ancient Greece cheating was allowed but carried the stigma of admitting to being lesser. In that sence, the Achaeans admitted to being weaker than the Trojans by resorting to tricks in order to win the war. HOWEVER. The Trojan horse is never mentioned in the Iliad, the only time Homer speaks about the Trojan horse is in passing in the Odyssey. We know about the Trojan horse mostly from Virgil Aeneid. Though the myth of the horse is most likely still passed on from oral Greek tradition, the Roman culture considered scheming and tricks as a great shame, which is why Odysseus is portrayed as a hero by the Greeks and as a trickster by the Romans.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            cont. To add to my point about cheating in ancient Greece, resorting to "dishonorable" tricks to win a fight, argument or anything inbetween meant that the "cheater" admits that he could not win fair and square and thus is not superior to his opponent even though he bested him, albeit unfairly. It's a different approach to the might makes right mindset that was prevalent in much of the ancient world.

            Oh shit it's gutsanon!

            Yes brother.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              gutsanon do you still train with the metal pole thing out in the woods? btw your phuzeek is looking juicier than the last time I saw you post, mirin

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Trojan horse
            I was told that it may be a false translation, and it actually was a ship.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Could be, the Phoenicians used horse imagery in their ships that the Greeks called ippos (horse)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I do not. 1v1 battles between heroes were still seen in the iron age.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >except the gods

        Ngmi

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I chose to believe that the events (exept the gods) depicted in the Iliad are mostly true and that the main figures did indeed exist.

      Hercules was also real, he was an individual that probably lived 1000 BCE and his legend was cross culture among, greek and germanic.
      Most of the greek, german and roman myths are based on Indo-European Myths.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hercules is partly based on the IE thunder striker god from which also Donar, Thor, Perkwunos and Indra descend.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Perun as well.

          No it doesnt

          Yes it does. I'll translate almost word for word:
          ΒΥΒΩΝ (Bybon) ΤΕΤΕΡΕΙ (single) ΧΕΡΙ (handedly) ΥΠΕΡΚΕΦΑΛΑ (over his head) Μ (me) ΥΠΕΡΕΒΑΛΕΤΟ (lifted) Ο ΦΟ[Λ]Α (of Phola)

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Viking at Standford Bridge took on 35 men single-handedly
            Oh, he fought 20+ dudes with one-arm, then?
            >Audie Murphy held off a German advance using a destroyed tank's mounted .50 MG single handedly
            I wonder if it was his left or right hand..?

            You utter fucking prat.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Not the guy you're responding to but holy fuck you're a brainlet. Do you think "single-handedly" means "without help from anyone else" in every language? It's an English expression retard.

              ΤΕΤΕΡΕΙ ΧΕΡΙ specifically refers to a single hand.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I specifically mentioned that my translation would be almost word for word for this very reason. I can not translate it in English without changing the wording to fit the English language. I'll translate exactly what is written on the stone so that you get my point:
              ΒΥΒΩΝ (Bybon) ΤΕΤΕΡΕΙ (single) ΧΕΡΙ (arm) ΥΠΕΡΚΕΦΑΛΑ (over head) Μ (me) ΥΠΕΡΕΒΑΛΕΤΟ (lifted) Ο ΦΟ[Λ]Α (of Phola)
              The term "single handedly" can be used to describe both "with one arm" and "alone" in English but the original text is in ancient Greek, not English. There's no room for speculation on what is written, the text is completely straightforward. You can doubt the story all you want but not the text. Wanker.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ΥΠΕΡΒΑΛΕΤΟ can be translated as thrown-over

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Too smug for his own good. Many such cases!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why does this Greek seem different from other ancient greek? seems simpler/more retarded

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dyeus pater isn't a thunder god, he's a sky god and not a chief god
          thunder gods come from the near east (like yahweh before the garden gnomes appropriated him)
          >inb4 does this mean all european thunder gods come from the near east
          yes. They were probably spread to the north during the neolithic migrations

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So why are there such clear cognates in all of the indo-European civilisations? Are you one of these Mark Brahmin types?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >BCE

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck off christcuck

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            nta but don't beat around the bush, BCE is just the pc version of BC. If it isn't try centering it around a different starting year and see how many people adopt it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              This. And the French revolutionaries already tried this with their autismo pseudoscience obsessed "Church of Reason" and the calendar that they came up with.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              This. And the French revolutionaries already tried this with their autismo pseudoscience obsessed "Church of Reason" and the calendar that they came up with.

              Ya what's so common about the common era anyways? Like did they even think about this shit lmao
              Also anno domini sounds way cooler than common era

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I’m not christian but the bce/ce revisionism is really dumb. We all know the reason why that date’s there in the first place, agree with it or no

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            bce = seething garden gnomes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          there are 6 billion people on the world who aren't christians and the other 2 billion are larpers
          cope

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Goku isn't real but that bro inspires me to work out

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I had the Goku and Majin Vegeta fight on vhs, such a cool fucking fight

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        smash your cock with a rock

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Will that turn me into a super sayan?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes it will. You're go beyond super sayan.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mah bro

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the scenes of goku training in the spaceship on the way to namek was a big influence in me getting in shape. its so motivating to see how significantly his power increased in just one week on the ship because of how hard he pushed himself.

        he basically worked himself to near-death, had a senzu bean, and then repeated. which i guess in real life is like roiding for quicker recovery.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pure kino

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >filename
            kek

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Goku used to be inspiring to me (and still is tbh) despite the hacks because compared to the capeshit alternatives he was the only super strong guy on TV who earned his strength with training. So good.
          The big extreme for that feel around that time was Rock Lee from Naruto. But of course we know how much he wound up flopping.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >lee
            Guy and his father were also based

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      rewatching DBZ recently had made me addicted to just hearing men grunt extensively. ive looked for good youtube videos of this sort of thing. the grunts are never extensive, and never isolated.

      DBZ is A+++ grunting porn.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        uhhhhh.......

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          reading this in my head you had a really masculine growl, even in confusion

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I understand, that test boost, man. fucking life-giving.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he likes testosterone fueled grunting
        Boy do I have another good genre for you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this, goku, batman, hercules,... same shit bro I want to lift and be strong like them

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Believing that heroes were made up
    >Not realising the heroes of old were deifications of the great men of times now lost
    >Not understanding that heroes were the great men of history which represent the taming of the natural order
    >Not understanding that the heroes were very real and we owe everything to them
    >Not understanding that myth is more real than history

    NGMI

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The real heroes were men and women who made medical and Technological advances. Whoever figured out domestication and breeding of plant's was a genius.
      The person who knew how to work out times and dating systems. The person who developed algorithms and man who worked out metallurgy.
      Not some self-righteous fuck who plundered and raped in the name of some God or destiny.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The real heroes were men and women who made medical and Technological advances.
        You mean Apollo and Asclepius?
        >Whoever figured out domestication and breeding of plant's was a genius.
        You mean Demeter and Persephone?
        >The person who knew how to work out times and dating systems.
        You mean Chronos?
        >The person who developed algorithms and man who worked out metallurgy.
        You mean Hephaestus?
        The Greeks valued the importance of these concepts so much they worshipped Gods and Titans in their sake. The hero myth seeks to inspire at times of strife and war (something that was constant in the ancient world) and impose values to the uneducated masses in the form of a simple story. You type like a nerd that brews undeserved hatred against those you deem superior to you.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lol ur a neek bruv

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          cont. Venturing into the unknown or standing up against the unconquered is the essence of most hero myths. What is projected throughout is a courage exemplified by those who put themselves forward, benefitting their society in the process. In Mesopotamia Gilgamesh began as an arrogant ruler that journeyed with his new feral bro (sent specifically by the Gods to give a purpose to Gilgamesh) to slay the Demon Humbaba of the Cedar forest for the glory of Uruk. In the case of Theseus he stepped in to reclaim the throne of Athens and stop the oppression imposed by the Cretans in the form of a sacrifice of the brightest Athenians to the monster that was the Minotaur (though that myth is likely Mycenaean propaganda against the previous strongest ruling city state of Crete). And guess what happened when arrogance took over the self righteous fuck you describe. They were struck down. The Greeks figured that out early in their mythos, Bellerophon, one of the earliest if not THE earliest hero in Greek mythos, was struck down when he pushed his luck too far and tried to ride Pegasus to Olympus. That's the essence of hubris.
          [...]
          I do.

          Genuinely based as fuck.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          cont. Venturing into the unknown or standing up against the unconquered is the essence of most hero myths. What is projected throughout is a courage exemplified by those who put themselves forward, benefitting their society in the process. In Mesopotamia Gilgamesh began as an arrogant ruler that journeyed with his new feral bro (sent specifically by the Gods to give a purpose to Gilgamesh) to slay the Demon Humbaba of the Cedar forest for the glory of Uruk. In the case of Theseus he stepped in to reclaim the throne of Athens and stop the oppression imposed by the Cretans in the form of a sacrifice of the brightest Athenians to the monster that was the Minotaur (though that myth is likely Mycenaean propaganda against the previous strongest ruling city state of Crete). And guess what happened when arrogance took over the self righteous fuck you describe. They were struck down. The Greeks figured that out early in their mythos, Bellerophon, one of the earliest if not THE earliest hero in Greek mythos, was struck down when he pushed his luck too far and tried to ride Pegasus to Olympus. That's the essence of hubris.
          [...]
          I do.

          Unfathomably based, even us mere men can rise to the image of gods

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The real heroes were men and women who made medical and Technological advances.
        You mean Apollo and Asclepius?
        >Whoever figured out domestication and breeding of plant's was a genius.
        You mean Demeter and Persephone?
        >The person who knew how to work out times and dating systems.
        You mean Chronos?
        >The person who developed algorithms and man who worked out metallurgy.
        You mean Hephaestus?
        The Greeks valued the importance of these concepts so much they worshipped Gods and Titans in their sake. The hero myth seeks to inspire at times of strife and war (something that was constant in the ancient world) and impose values to the uneducated masses in the form of a simple story. You type like a nerd that brews undeserved hatred against those you deem superior to you.

        cont. Venturing into the unknown or standing up against the unconquered is the essence of most hero myths. What is projected throughout is a courage exemplified by those who put themselves forward, benefitting their society in the process. In Mesopotamia Gilgamesh began as an arrogant ruler that journeyed with his new feral bro (sent specifically by the Gods to give a purpose to Gilgamesh) to slay the Demon Humbaba of the Cedar forest for the glory of Uruk. In the case of Theseus he stepped in to reclaim the throne of Athens and stop the oppression imposed by the Cretans in the form of a sacrifice of the brightest Athenians to the monster that was the Minotaur (though that myth is likely Mycenaean propaganda against the previous strongest ruling city state of Crete). And guess what happened when arrogance took over the self righteous fuck you describe. They were struck down. The Greeks figured that out early in their mythos, Bellerophon, one of the earliest if not THE earliest hero in Greek mythos, was struck down when he pushed his luck too far and tried to ride Pegasus to Olympus. That's the essence of hubris.

        [...]
        do you lift scholar?

        I do.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >where do you work out?
          >at the library

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh shit it's gutsanon!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >gutsbro works out at the library
          quite a based turn of events tbh senpai

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can you tell us your workout routine again, Gutsanon?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes brother, no problem. However I wouldn't recommed it if you are not done with 1/2/3 or close to it at least. If that's the case I would recommend a 3 day full body hypertrophy routine instead until you hit those numbers and then you can move on to more volume work.
            >Day 1.
            Db pullovers 3x10
            Bb rows 3x8
            Bench 4x6
            Db flyes 3x10
            Db press 3x10
            Cb Curls 3x6
            Cb wrist curls 3x15
            >Day 2.
            Squat 3x6
            Calf raises 3x25
            Front squats 3x8
            Ohp 3x6
            Lat raises 3x10
            Bb shrugs 3x15
            >Day 3.
            Cb Curls 4x8 (lower weight higher reps)
            Db front raises 4x16
            Seated triceps extensions 4x10
            Cb wrist curls 4x15
            >Day 4.
            Rest
            >Day 5.
            Same as day 1
            >Day 6.
            Rest
            >Day 7.
            Same as day 2
            >Day 8.
            Rest
            And then repeat.

            Hello BAP, cheesed to meet you

            Ironically have not read Bronze Age Mindset and I feel like dumbfucks like solbrah and liverkang have ran that concept to the fucking ground like the uninspired grifters they are. Is it still worth a read or am I better off just Knowing Myself™?

            • 2 months ago
              Fuck the Globohomo

              >Ironically have not read Bronze Age Mindset and I feel like dumbfucks like solbrah and liverkang have ran that concept to the fucking ground like the uninspired grifters they are. Is it still worth a read or am I better off just Knowing Myself™?
              BAP is unironically very well read and the real deal. Def worth the time imo, even if you don't like or agree with that premium schizo, Bronze Age Mindset is good fun. Give it a go fren.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Ironically have not read Bronze Age Mindset and I feel like dumbfucks like solbrah and liverkang have ran that concept to the fucking ground like the uninspired grifters they are. Is it still worth a read or am I better off just Knowing Myself™?
              BAP is unironically very well read and the real deal. Def worth the time imo, even if you don't like or agree with that premium schizo, Bronze Age Mindset is good fun. Give it a go fren.

              Seconding BAP and BAM. BAP is a great shitposter and ally and very, very well read. BAM is a fun book and should not be taken as a guide but will certainly help you think outside of certain boxes. The podcast is fucking hilarious.

              • 2 months ago
                Fuck the Globohomo

                >The podcast is fucking hilarious.
                It is certainly the best comedy and calypso show in the word atm. give it a try, your sides will leave you more than once!

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Thank you Guts anon I'm still using your routine in my home gym. I cant replicate the cable related workouts so I just use my free dumbbells for the cable wrist curls and regular curls. I'm still making decent gains and in a recent lifting competition with my friends, I outlifted all my friends even the ones who mog me, kinda weird. I cannot thank you enough god speed Mr Guts anon

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon... CB stands for curl bar... That's a mistake on my part tho, I should have specified. Glad you are making good gains friend, godspeed.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah it's my fault for being a dumbass and assuming cb means cable curls for some reason. Godspeed anon don't apologize for someone else being a retard. Much love, no homo

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Rome pic
                Vouching for your success even more now.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Bronze Age Mindset or BAP in generally really doesn't promote some weird primal grifting though. BAP doesn't go on about carnivore or primal. He even said in Caribbean Rhythms that he thinks the high protein intake thing is overrated. I'd read it. And I'm someone who refuses to read philosophy and stuff on principle.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think you'll get a lot out of BAM, but it's good for dumb dumbs like me that is also an expansion to Beyond Good and Evil.

        • 2 months ago
          Fuck the Globohomo

          you, good sir, a based through and through

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Ironically have not read Bronze Age Mindset and I feel like dumbfucks like solbrah and liverkang have ran that concept to the fucking ground like the uninspired grifters they are. Is it still worth a read or am I better off just Knowing Myself™?
            BAP is unironically very well read and the real deal. Def worth the time imo, even if you don't like or agree with that premium schizo, Bronze Age Mindset is good fun. Give it a go fren.

            Thank you friend, I will give it a shot.

            gutsanon do you still train with the metal pole thing out in the woods? btw your phuzeek is looking juicier than the last time I saw you post, mirin

            I'm not that guy, he's the original gutsanon. Iirc he's been posting for longer than me

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >arrogant
          He wasn't arrogant. He conquered the 4 quarters and was godlike but he knew death eventually would await him and everything he achieved would be in vain

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            His fear of death began after Enkidu's demise, which kickstarted his search of immortality. I was referring to the first tablet of the epic where Gilgamesh is fucking around with the citizens of Uruk. The following is a quick summary from Wikipedia
            >The story introduces Gilgamesh, king of Uruk. Gilgamesh, two-thirds god and one-third man, is oppressing his people, who cry out to the gods for help. For the young women of Uruk this oppression takes the form of a droit du seigneur, or "lord's right", to sleep with brides on their wedding night. For the young men (the tablet is damaged at this point) it is conjectured that Gilgamesh exhausts them through games, tests of strength, or perhaps forced labour on building projects.
            Later the wild man Enkidu is sent by the Gods as an equal to tame Gilgamesh's arrogance and help him find a purpose through the Power of Friendship™. The guy had to be stopped cause he was fucking all the women and cucking every man in Uruk, kek what a lad.

            [...]
            Seconding BAP and BAM. BAP is a great shitposter and ally and very, very well read. BAM is a fun book and should not be taken as a guide but will certainly help you think outside of certain boxes. The podcast is fucking hilarious.

            Will definitely save some time for it, thanks anon.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And humility is opposed to hubris, which is not a tragic human flaw but a virtue that is godlike.

          The Word tells a story not of "gods" but of the supreme Lord of all, and many arrogant rulers who are struck down in sequence.

          Gilgamesh is a romantic epic from ancient Sumeria, emergent city-states such as Uruk and Ur were the context in which Abraham was born and raised to go and make his pact with God.

          The Greeks had these gods and stories but they were simply inventions of the imagination.

          Eventually, the Greeks realized that Christ is King, leaving behind myth for something far greater.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            what are you on about ?Based Christian Fathers told people to first get to know Homer before touching the Bible .

            Jesus Christ came right after the failure of Mithridates - just when the Heroic Age seemed to have been in vain .
            Jesus is the Ultimate Hero closing up an Age and opening up a new kind of greatness - Thus came the Age of The Saints ,

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Gutsanon, why are you literally me? Across these threads I have seen that we share many common interests, hobbies, and opinions. Are you Literally Me, or am I Literally You...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            We are both anonymous retards on the internet.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              So trve king. I wish I had a friend like you gutsanon. Alas, the endless electrical sea separates us all. Each of us anons are captains of our ships, each without a crew. We may sail by each other and wave, but we will never shake the other's hands.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Heroes who teach mankind how to farm, tame rivers, make tools out of metal etc are common across many cultures.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think Jesus Chrust was one of them. Imo, turning water into wine refers to irrigation. Turning stone to bread means agriculture. Plus he was a carpenter.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dude irrigation had been commonplace in the near east for like 6000 years before Jesus came.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm guessing he meant that Jesus represented irrigation on top of everything else but I'm gonna go with the Divine Child archetype. He's already got a lot of Dionysian aspects to his image, irrigation being one of them would kind of detract from his other attributes.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Point missed, obnoxious retarded gay

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        See pic related of the difference in brain activity just from 20 min of walking. Actual intellectuals combined exercising and diet with intellectual pursuits. The idea that physical health and mental health should be separated is asinine and mid wit tier.

        >“No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”- Socrates

        >In Regimen II, Hippocrates prescribed moderate exercise because it warmed, thinned, and purged away the humor .Furthermore, he believed idleness (inactivity) and overpowering food consumption (compared with exercise) could lead to disease.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he believed idleness (inactivity) and overpowering food consumption (compared with exercise) could lead to disease.
          the original FPH

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >purged away the humor.

          That's true. It's the same idea of soldiers going through bootcamp, where they're overwhelmed and forced to have their brains not be total useless morons like they could be in civilian life, or how if you let a child feel that what it does is not okay, it'll stop doing that thing.

          Really, the world is filled with people who're just messing around and not really doing anything. It's the people going to a restaurant, eat and talk for several hours, and then come home and do nothing. It's the 'clubbers' who fuck and drink and do nothing.

          It's the fat lesbian feminist basket-weaving majors who yell and 'protest' the most, but don't really do anything. Like, what does the protesting itself achieve? Protesting is basically a veiled form of self-fellating whining a child does, but because it comes from an adult, we sort of bend over backwards and let it happen. Because being an adult means you know what you're talking about, right?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Really, the world is filled with people who're just messing around and not really doing anything. It's the people going to a restaurant, eat and talk for several hours, and then come home and do nothing. It's the 'clubbers' who fuck and drink and do nothing.
            That's me, based

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the 'clubbers' who fuck and drink and do nothing.
            sounds like they're doing more sexo than you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you seem insufferable

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tell me in this moment you are euphoric without telling me in this moment you are euphoric. Is this the line you use to try to pick up women?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I miss fedoraposting

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the person who
        All of these things were probably discovered by groups, not individuals though trial and error and inter generational knowledge.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you are such a gay loll

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most reddit tier post I've seen in a while

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Let’s see
        Achilles
        >hero of the Trojan war
        >such an absolute Uber chad everyone thought he was straight up immortal until he got an arrow shot in his foot
        >immortalised and remembered until the end of humanity

        Guy who invented planting seeds
        >doomed humanity to eating gruel
        >is behind every single pandemic and overpopulation on the globe
        >no one remembers who is

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >reddilles
          >Made up normie nonsense to appease sheeple
          >gets shot in the heel and dies cos his mother was too retarded to dip his foot in afterwards

          >Sneed cultivator
          Allowed events, civilisations and people, like achilliee, to exist.
          >has made humanity seethe he lived comfortably

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >reddilles
            Have you even read the iliad my bro

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Achilles
            >killed a bunch of people
            >neeted it up in his tent when he didn't get his favorite slave pussy
            >killed a prince and paraded his corpse around the city walls
            grain guy
            >literal who
            Yeah, hmmm I dunno man, seems kinda hard to pick

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He had the choice between a short, exciting life that would bring eternal glory to his name, or he could leave Troy and live a long, meaningless existence. His mother wanted the latter, but Achilles chose the former.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bad bait

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yet you replied, curious!

          Achilles
          >killed a bunch of people
          >neeted it up in his tent when he didn't get his favorite slave pussy
          >killed a prince and paraded his corpse around the city walls
          grain guy
          >literal who
          Yeah, hmmm I dunno man, seems kinda hard to pick

          Achilles got killed because of hurdur honour after his bf got killed and princess bs.
          Grain guy started civilisation and lived a humble life.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is was not muh honor but muh glory. And considering we speak his name 3000 years later I'd wager that worked out pretty well for him

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Not some self-righteous fuck who plundered and raped in the name of some God or destiny.
        NGMI also you're probably descended from those self-righteous fucks who raped and plundered. That's what winning looks like.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        post body

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t. sucked big pharma dick during the scamdemic

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What a gay take, fucking square

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        bro you sly all mad shit for someone who would be dead. If we were in the Stone Age I’d rape and murder you just to prove my point. Not so smart when you’re dead

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao, is this a new reddit copypasta?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >"...and women"
        >needs to get that one in
        >not just typing "people/beings/humans" to begin with if he is going to be a fag

        I guess I'm not reading this, then!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >W*men
        >Advances
        AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAG

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      .

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this
      hero worship is a must for the betterment of oneself and society

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I lift to look like Herakles

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Listen bro
    They aren't real, but with your dedication they can BECOME real.
    Lift till you are one. No matter what your nationality.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >THE HOMERIC EPICS WERE NOT REAL, ACHILLES NEVER EXISTED
    >WHAT DO YOU MEAN TROY WAS A REAL PLACE AND THAT HOMER ACCURATELY DESCRIBED GRECIAN GEOGRAPHY
    >NOTHING HOMER SAID IS REAL BECUASE HE ACADEMICS SAID SO... OK?!

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    most of ancient greek goods look kinda zesty, if u catch my drift, only Zeus, Hades and Hercules lookin swole.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even if they aren't real, their legend is and the legend is what inspires greatness. You see Hercules, the strongest man alive and you believe that there is such a thing as the strongest man, the concept has been made real to you and now you can pursue it. That's the hero, that's the miracle.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My interest in Ancient Greece and Ancient Greek religion skyrocketed the more I learned about the bronze age. This is when the set in stone stereotype of the golden century of Pericles (5th centurt bc) collapses and you see more aspects of Greece, one of them being bronze age tribes with no set religion, mostly cults and deities. You really start to see which aspects of life the Greeks appreciated most by which Gods appeared first, two of the earliest being Hermes (linear b ermaha) and Ares (linear b Are). Really interesting stuff. Also I'll share some interesting shit I noticed when I was a bit younger
    >Izanagi and Izanami's myth being extremely similiar to the story of Orpheus and Euridice
    >sons of the ruling God (Herakles, Thor, Susano'o) venturing out to kill a sea serpent (Hydra, Jormungandr, Yamata no Orochi) in the case of Herakles and Susano'o that serpent is multi headed. Also the fact that both Herakles and Susano'o began their quest for retribution (Herakles for killing his family, Susano'o for killing his sister's priestesses).
    Amazing stuff really.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Monkeyspeak n*****lover

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Go back subhuman

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do I study the ancient Greeks?
      I only read the Illiad and Odyssey and got the Republic.

      Can you pinpoint me in the right direction?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Google scholar

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Depends, there are many aspects to ancient Greek literature both from contemporary research and ancient literature. What interests you brother, religion and mythology, history, philosophy or anthropology? I can share some of my favorite books if you are keen.

        Chaoskampf (sky guy of kingship and civilisation punches water snake of lawlessness and nature) is such a fundamental part of Eurasian mythology and cultural foundation, but one rarely if ever see it mentioned in pop-mythology.

        Yes, in Mesopotamian and PIE worship as well. Comparative mythology is so underrated it's criminal.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Start with The Greeks and Greek Civilization by Jacob Bruckhardt. Bruckhardt was a philologist and mentor to Nietzche. The book explains why Ancient Greece was the high point of human history and everything afterwards is a vague shadow of them. After that download some pdfs of Greek plays as reference material and read Nietzche's Birth of Tragedy

        Plato is worth reading but also to be taken with many grains of salt

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Chaoskampf (sky guy of kingship and civilisation punches water snake of lawlessness and nature) is such a fundamental part of Eurasian mythology and cultural foundation, but one rarely if ever see it mentioned in pop-mythology.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Depends, there are many aspects to ancient Greek literature both from contemporary research and ancient literature. What interests you brother, religion and mythology, history, philosophy or anthropology? I can share some of my favorite books if you are keen.
      [...]
      Yes, in Mesopotamian and PIE worship as well. Comparative mythology is so underrated it's criminal.

      do you lift scholar?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hello BAP, cheesed to meet you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I find more fascinating that the Titan Pantheon of defeated gods have pre-PIE names and the Hellenic Pantheon have IE names. Almost as if they were the gods of the defeated pre-pie peoples

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Checked. I'm absolutely certain that this is the case for at least one PIE civilization but I don't remember which one. Patricide and replacement in general is essential to Greek mythos. After Christianity took over Europe the word daemon that was used to describe deities in ancient Greece and had a positive connotation suddenly was twisted to mean an evil spirit, in an anti pagan effort by the christians.

        Why does this Greek seem different from other ancient greek? seems simpler/more retarded

        For once it's a simple inscription on a rock and not an official oration speech or piece of literature, kind of like graffiti.

        ΥΠΕΡΒΑΛΕΤΟ can be translated as thrown-over

        It does, which it's strange cause throwing it would need even more explosive power than lifting it, especially over his head. If he did throw it "over the head" my best bet would be a ball backward throw using momentum.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >giving με 3 (You)s in 1 reply
          Zooey mama

          >I'm absolutely certain that this is the case for at least one PIE civilization
          Kronos for example is still the name for Time in greek as you must know. But Even ancient greeks were not 100% sure that the titan and the concept of time werethe same. they shared the name as Kronos (time) had degenerated into Χρονος pronounces K-H-ronos. Moreover, Kronos (the titan) holds a scythe and could represent the passage of time by seasons like the Harvest aligning him further with the concept of time.

          >For once it's a simple inscription on a rock and not an official oration speech or piece of literature, kind of like graffiti.
          makes sense, i think we tend to forget how the commoner rarely appears exact in history

          >ball backward throw
          I was thinking exactly the same, which for me makes it perhaps easier, since the arm would be more of a tensile device rather than the lifting force

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >με
            Μπάστιντ ;^)
            >i think we tend to forget how the commoner rarely appears exact in history
            Check out the graffiti of Pompey if you want a good laugh.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Check out the graffiti of Pompey if you want a good laugh.
              I member when they were first posted here. I love them.
              >for me, it's "i fucked the barmaid"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Shitter, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place
                Comradery among shitposters transcends time it seems

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >My lusty son, with how many women have you had sexual relations?
                Are ya winnin son?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I like the graffiti art of the Crucifixion with Jesus as a cow. Arguably the first meme

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Donkey

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which of the Titans don't have PIE derived names?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I read an interesting theory that suggested the Trojans were actually Hittites, or at least an Anatolian people with a close connection. Hittite records mention a city to the west called Wilusa (Illium) foreign enemies known as the Akkihaya (Acheans,) while that famous Egyptian peace treaty mentions a Hittite ally known as Drdny (Dardans)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ha I was reading the same thing today
          Hittites were more to the east, Trojans were probably Luwians or Lydians (or Lycians?)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        they weren't though, we know this
        also most greek gods are near eastern in origin, their names do not correspond with their nature (see zeus)
        Not to mention Mycenaeans descend from Minoans and we have no proof of anyone in the balkans in Early/Middle bronze age having gods similar to Greek gods

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not sure i understand you. Zeus has a very typical IE skyfather role.

          >Mycenaeans descend from Minoans
          More likely to be the same descent rather than one coming from the other

          >we have no proof of anyone in the balkans in Early/Middle bronze age having gods similar to Greek gods
          contrast to your first point?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >*Dyēus was the Sky or Day conceived as a divine entity, and thus the dwelling of the gods, the Heaven.[7] As the gateway to the deities and the father of both the Divine Twins and the goddess of the Dawn (*H2éwsōs), *Dyēus was a prominent deity in the Proto-Indo-European pantheon.[17][18] He was however likely not their ruler or the holder of the supreme power like Zeus and Jupiter.[7]
            Apollo is the equivalent of the sky/day god, not zeus. zeus is a thunder god much more similar to canaanite/middle eastern gods
            you got filtered

            >More likely to be the same descent rather than one coming from the other
            already two studies proving they are homogeneous. Lazaridis 2017 and Clemente 2021. And there's a new study coming from Reich soon that will include Mycenaeans

            So why are there such clear cognates in all of the indo-European civilisations? Are you one of these Mark Brahmin types?

            >name is the same therefore the god is the same despite being literally different
            are you retarded?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I got filtered when you are the one who thinks near-east thunder gods spread to every IE civilization?
              Apollo is associated with the sun and day, not the sky.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you want to literally talk about the sky god, that would be Ouranos (Ουρανός) which literally translates to "Sky"
                pleb

                >near-east thunder gods spread to every IE civilization?
                IE civilization is a nomadic culture without written language an no advanced technology or even weaponry. Anything more than that, especially non-nomadic, is not IE civilization
                it's as much IE as much as Sahel is French because they speak French

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ouranos is not a IE word, "pleb"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                retard I'm talking about the god himself
                how low is our IQ?
                what's next, saying DPKR is a democracy because they have "democratic" in their name? fucktard

                I don't think you'll get a lot out of BAM, but it's good for dumb dumbs like me that is also an expansion to Beyond Good and Evil.

                BAM is retarded, does not expand on anything nietzschean and doesn't even name the garden gnome. Its writer (costin alamariu) has a gnomish mentor and his brother is a banker

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                your arrogance is blinding you. I'm done here

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                thread hit bump limit brah, aint much to do anyway lol

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lycians

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      really joggles the noggin

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t know what’s more fascinating, that cultures have evolved the same myths through convergence, or that there’s a very real possibility of a Palaeolithic proto-culture from which every society descends.
      Either way, it gives me faith in the universal brotherhood of man

  15. 2 months ago
    Fuck the Globohomo

    >he fell for the leftist propaganda
    aspire for beauty, anon

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they're pedos

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alexander the Great outdid Dionysus. We lift to out do the gods.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Greek heroes weren't real
    And you are.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely laconic response.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    testicles, distant cousin of hercules is real
    he's my hero

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >American education

    Aside from Achiles and Hercules (which is debated), all other Greek warriors were real. Leonidas, Themistocles, Alexander the Great, you name it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think he was talking about Herakles, Perseus, Theseus, Bellerophon, Jason and the like

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fucking shit, have a nice day, retard.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the ancient Greek heroes weren't real

    no shit? wtf lmao. did you really think people ran into battle in the front lines and managed to live?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >did you really think people ran into battle in the front lines and managed to live?
      You don't?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >did you really think people ran into battle in the front lines and managed to live?

      Υοu clearly haven't read about Greek history then. I suggest you read about Kolokotronis, a modern Greek hero who charged headfirst in the battle and fucked turks in the ass

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >name is literally Ass-Boulder
        What did he mean by this?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          kek

          >Greeks used the word cuckold as an insult 200 years ago

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Alexander did that

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      actual retard, the literal front lines on an engagement has nothing to do with actual skill. most of them are literally crashed to death or asphyxiated IF they are not killed by flailing weapons. Life is not a fucking movie you retard. Most heroes who participated in battles knew when to enter the battle to ensure the maximum chance of surviving and it was NEVER in the front lines. They always entered the battle near the middle or end of an engagement. I highly suggest you look into legit historical, reenactments of battles and you'll understand.

      Alexander did that

      If you really think ANYONE could battle in the front lines of a phalanx and literally live you are retarded. Alexander entered the battle on cavalry once enemy formations were broken. The "heroes" understood how to survive battles.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Where you there? It's not like they were fighting in a chaos, it's well documented that they had tactics and a lot of combat experience. Their role may be later exaggerated but they were famous at the time for a reason.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ah yes, because all ancient battles had a perfect 100% death rate for all the frontline troops

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      actual retard, the literal front lines on an engagement has nothing to do with actual skill. most of them are literally crashed to death or asphyxiated IF they are not killed by flailing weapons. Life is not a fucking movie you retard. Most heroes who participated in battles knew when to enter the battle to ensure the maximum chance of surviving and it was NEVER in the front lines. They always entered the battle near the middle or end of an engagement. I highly suggest you look into legit historical, reenactments of battles and you'll understand.

      [...]
      If you really think ANYONE could battle in the front lines of a phalanx and literally live you are retarded. Alexander entered the battle on cavalry once enemy formations were broken. The "heroes" understood how to survive battles.

      This is a level of retardation I didn't even know existed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      t.weakling

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were, you just feel for demoralization. What a waste of dubs on you

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    for ancient roman heroes

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A large portion of Greek history and written records talk about Hercules sons waging war with different Mycenaean kings.

    I honestly think most Greek heroes were based on real people and just exaggerated a bit.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nice full house post number, too bad wasted on this cringe :/

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Soulless

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine any modern politician heading a companion cavalry charge. No shield, just spear and sword.

    Suck my right nut, every myth is real. The Odyssey and Iliad 100% happend as written, which written version depends on our moods lads, lesgoo.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No heroes are real heroes. That's what a hero is, an idealization of something that cannot be real. There are just different degrees of idealization, some heroes are more real than others but none is 100% real

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw I found out that anything I think of is true as long as I want it to be and use threat of physical violence against deniers

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's a complete waste of time. There will be a day that you won't have enough force or willingness to enforce your truth upon others, and you would most likely die and learnt nothing from life.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you lived the life you wanted to live in the world you wanted to see, was it a waste of time? It sounds like the most effective and efficient use of time. Particularly if you don't care what the world looks like when you're gone.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You will never see the world you want to see unless you stop desiring things. The world will never accomodate your wants and needs, not even if you force everyone to follow you, there will always be something that will bother you because the problem lies within yourself, your constant feel of always wanting something else to be your way will be your cross your entire life until you learn to let things go and focus on being free from desire.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >mfw the desire of being free of desire is a desire in it of itself

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >mfw have never heard the sound of one hand clapping

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              buddha pilled

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw conquered gened gay is trying to tell a conquering something
        kneel before you right your next post, weakling bitch

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          get your t levels checked you fucking loser lmao

          Step aside bitch, you are blocking my sunlight.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        get your t levels checked you fucking loser lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw conquered gened gay is trying to tell a conquering something
        kneel before you right your next post, weakling bitch

        Both post body now or be forever known as larpers and dyels

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Then be the hero for others to aspire to

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fellow "Papa's Rod" Enthusiast

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      whys his lazor firing backwards

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because those tales were inspired by someone, at some point someone was so strong fit and handsome that they thought he must have been son of zeus and as a result they made myths about that one giga chad that was super fit.
    Why even lift? To be so fit that people think that you must be the son of a god.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw I found out that the ancient Greek gods are real
    About to kill this workout for the god of coomers, Zeus.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Dionysus tempting me to ruin my protein synthesis
      bros....

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ancient Greek haetos don't exi..........
    >A short inscription from Olympia records of Bybon. The son of a man named Phola, Bybon was a weightlifter of remarkable capability. The inscriptionon a block of granite with two deep notches carved out of it, forming a handle so that the stone could be used as a free weight; weighing 143.5 kilograms (316 lb), the stone's carved inscription reads Bybon son of Phola has lifted me over his head

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot the part that mentions that he did it with ONE FUCKING ARM (ΤΕΤΕΡΕΙ ΧΕΡΙ)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No it doesnt

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    But they are real OP, just look in the mirror.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      bro....

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone referring to the indo european mythology (anachronistic reconstruction, ie fairy tales) and comparing it to greek (given to us in written form by the people of its time) is a literal brainlet. It's like referring to game of thrones.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's anachronistic to group the PIE tribes together in terms of shared cultural/ethnic identity. Nobody goes around thinking that the PIEs where one large group of people worshipping the same deities, just that unbeknownst to them they shared some common religious attributes, which we now realise carried well into the Iron Age.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Founding an art piece with a woman with a shield and making shit up how that is connected with Athena, or a woman with 4 hands and making other shit up how that is connected to some indian deity, is all at best just a theory.
        When you see a woman with all of Athena's symbols in Greece you can say for sure, that is Athena because there is the written proof from people at the time with all the stories along side. Going back in time and saying this woman with a shield in modern day ukraine or something, is the indo european Athena and has the characterists of Athena is bullshit until proven otherwise. Think this about the indo european mythology, in what language is there proof about their stories? There are only references in languages invented way later, at least 1000 years later.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I agree with you on modern scholars stretching a myth thin just for the purpose of distinguishing vague similarities. But there are still deities and stories that can be seen throughout different tribes of the PIEs such as Dyeus, the slaying of a serpent god etc. Then again you could make the argument that some myths stretch far beyond the geographical limits of the PIE tribes.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they were real
    literally no proof they weren't
    they're about as real as the empire of Kush

  36. 2 months ago
    Fuck the Globohomo

    I like how the demotivaton gays get crushed by arete chads itt

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were real and they were white. Do not be demoralized by rewritten fake history.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are real. They live in every rep you perform.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be me growing up enthralled by ancient greek history
    >filled with wonder over how advanced they must have been in their time
    >amazed by the culture and art considering the world around them
    >feel driven in life by their values and human pursuit
    >finally get to a point as an adult where I can visit greece
    >arrive in athens
    >instantly discover its an absolute shithole that shouldnt even count as europe (much closer to a middle eastern/north african country)
    >the people are repugnant, dirty, rude, and out of shape
    >look into modern greek history/politics (there must have been many afflictions to get them to this point)
    >nope its literally all on the people and their shitty ways
    >b-b-but it must be due to the muslims invading they must be vastly different on an ethnic level
    >nope its the same people as before

    Fuck greece and fuck the western world for memeing their shit on a pedistal

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >visits downtown Athens
      >is amazed it's a shithole
      Next time visit downtown NY and be shocked that stabbings and shootings happens retard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you the reincarnation of that dumbass who got disappointed when the local greek people living in poverty weren't looking like the greek statues and then went on to write some fantasy about how he thought that greeks were extinct, or that ancient greeks were a different race or something retarded like that?
      >>look into modern greek history/politics (there must have been many afflictions to get them to this point)
      You didn't look into shit lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Achilles and his bros aren't the forefathers of modern kebab standowners, even if they name their sons Ajax and Diomedes

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t.turkroach living in germany

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          lmao no, its just that the genetic quality has shifted and moved away from Greece in the last 2500 years. I don't see Greeks with hair that is coloured like fire amongst their populace. Although, Ajax's bloodline seems to have passed down to the Bloatlord.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No it hasn't and the "fire" (lol) hair is you being a dumbass. The word is "fair" as is commonly translated or bright in the sense that which catches your attention as is the greek word.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Greek mutt cope

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Read descriptions of Alexander by his contemporaries and stay mad.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically looks like a friend of mine and I'm Greek. Every Greek blond person I've met has that same "honey" color to his hair, not the Scandinavian blond.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >heterochromia
                Literal anime protag god damn

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                there are no descriptions of him by his contemporaries. However we have a painting of his from his father's grave
                and an ivory statues of his from the same grave, Philip's (he has a beak nose lmao)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                there are no descriptions of him by his contemporaries. However we have a painting of his from his father's grave
                and an ivory statues of his from the same grave, Philip's (he has a beak nose lmao)

                and his contemporary bust. Also, his parent's faces AND his father's face reconstruction from his skull

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've visited the museum at Vergina, it's one of the best and most well preserved museums in my opinion. If you get the chance to admire the tomb's facade (from which the fresco in

                there are no descriptions of him by his contemporaries. However we have a painting of his from his father's grave
                and an ivory statues of his from the same grave, Philip's (he has a beak nose lmao)

                is depicted) alone and in silence it really is a sublime experience.

                I read an interesting theory that suggested the Trojans were actually Hittites, or at least an Anatolian people with a close connection. Hittite records mention a city to the west called Wilusa (Illium) foreign enemies known as the Akkihaya (Acheans,) while that famous Egyptian peace treaty mentions a Hittite ally known as Drdny (Dardans)

                Ha I was reading the same thing today
                Hittites were more to the east, Trojans were probably Luwians or Lydians (or Lycians?)

                I've read this theory too but another theory is that Trojans were a Greek colony that for one reason or another had a breaking out with the mainland Achaeans. It was then recorded by
                the historians at the time because it was a considered a great sin for a colony city to oppose it's mother city. Look further into Greek migrations during the Bronze Age and the matter of "stenochoria".

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                most accurate depiction right there.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                hair/eye color still wrong

                there are no descriptions of him by his contemporaries. However we have a painting of his from his father's grave
                and an ivory statues of his from the same grave, Philip's (he has a beak nose lmao)

                not coping, but experience of being natty - I think a lot of ancient hellenes were in fantastic aesthetic shape, but not QUITE as good as our expectations of statues - almost all images of statues not only reflect light like statue material does, not flesh and skin, and they are almost always in favourable lighting to favour that view ofc.
                TLDR; ancient hellenes would look aesthetic af in some lighting but for the most part look quite regular, basically pic related. aesthetic af in this lighting, but sure to look quite normal in bad lighting.

                the insertions on their statues are great, but their muscle mass is natty attainable. They're just very low bodyfat especially in the abdomen area
                go check out the Doryphoros statue
                or Zeus/Poseidon as he's about to throw a bolt/trident

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ancient greeks were slavs
                Based

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      demoralization poster, fuck off

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can blame Christianity and garden gnomes for this. They ruined our country and our culture, like they have ruined every beauty Europe had.

      Some of us still honour our ancestors and try to work our body and mind, lately plenty of Greek youth is discovering the feats of our forefathers

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    t. persian

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the statues are though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do you know?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        seen them on webms and jpgs

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          prove it, post a single jpg

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.galleriaborghese.net/portfolio-items/rape-of-persephone/

            How about you find me a contemporary sculptor alive today that can match the anatomic accuracy, the play of surfaces, the movement and emotion that this sculpture possesses.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why even lift?
    Because you should strive to be your own hero instead of admiring some gay fake heroes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >gay fake heroes
      Cmon now

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the ancient greeks also knew they weren't real. they still tried to be like them. whenever they had too much work to handle, they remembered Hercules, who had to literally carry the world and did so willingly. it inspired them to be better. you can do the same with people like Arnold or zyzz, or anyone else that inspires you.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because you're missing the whole fucking point. Regardless if they were real or not, mythology, stories, and religion teach ideals to strife for. You've heard the phrase "it's about the journey, not the destination" - it's exactly that. Routines and rituals. Struggle and heroism. Resolve in the face of failure.

    And if the discipline to achieve higher isn't enough: then let fear remind me what happens when you DON'T have an ideal: Look at the masses of weed smokers, obese pigs who steal our precious oxygen, the parasites who criticize those who work out in the modern age. You wanna be like them? You wanna fry your brain on social media? Or would you prefer striving towards an ideal? Stand in front of the mirror naked and ask yourself that question. Don't hide from who you are: accept reality and push forward. The suffering and pain will become bearable and worth it.

    When I got out of the Army back in 2019, I came to my home city out of nostalgia despite falling in love living in the rural mountains. I regret it. All my friends I once knew were but a hollow shell(or were they always like that and I didn't notice?) Drinking right before the Monday workday, weed because 'anxiety', not being able to hold a job, over 300 Lbs+. I won't be surprised if I find out my friend is dead in ~10 years from 'covid'.

    Working out forces you to realize the truth overtime: you need to sleep, eat correctly, drink water, not over-consume, not do drugs, have routines, take care of yourself and those you love. Besides, if you're not improving yourself, you're not living. You're already dead. As someone who had to overcome PTSD over the years from my 2019 Afghanistan deployment, depression, and my ADHD which I got medically diagnosed with 2 years ago from doing a sleep study with a brain scan: That's no way to live life.You have to keep going - one foot in front of the other. And bear the pain and watching others fail. Welcome to being human.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Quality post.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's some inspirational shit.Good job brother.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kek fucking zogbot aww did killing kids fuck you up? Worse than a moron

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        post body

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So here's the (You) you wanted so bad. Children get the paintball gun while they try to steal your pencils from your sleeve. Women were generally kept out of sight and dug canals for their bean farms. Men who point AK-47's at you get the 50 caliber. Your lack of morality, empathy for another human, and instant self-defense is textbook projection that it's not even funny - just sad. Regardless, you'll think back to that half-assed comment one day and realize the mistake you made and feel terrible. Let it be a learning experience. Or maybe you won't. That'll be the real hell: never becoming self conscious of your own actions and suffering in confusion until your dying breath. I borderline fucking pity you man. :

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kek you are one retarded zogbot trying to preach. Worse than a moron

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Kek fucking zogbot aww did killing kids fuck you up? Worse than a moron

            You're a pathetic wastrel that enjoys your quality of life solely because we do what we do around the globe. Assuming you're either an insipid, retarded west coast gay or a fucking hungolian "european" eurotrash mutt (no difference, really) you are fortunate to have lived in the pax Americana. Thanks to us, European self-slaugtering chimpouts are down by 95%!

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You can't lump every war and war effort in the same box. You can be grateful for burgers underwriting european security while condemning the Iraq and Afghanistan wars for example. you can't pretend it's one necessary monolith

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              retarded mutt i want to fire off a firework near your house and watch you shit yourself (lliterally)

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      reductionist yet accurate

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were real. Some of them were even half-gods. The Greek gods were also real, but they have forsaken us.

  47. 2 months ago
    Fuck the Globohomo

    Fuck off, the gods are real. Christ is real.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bump so it doesn't get buried under porn spam

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good thread

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's been more than a year since that thread
      damn

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    how many of you bros started lifting to look like a greek/roman statue?

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >coping about faith turns into /fitlit/ discussion about religious philosophy and the strive for greatness
    POSTING IN BASED THREAD, WAGMI

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fitlit truly is the best combination

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because you clearly aren´t capable of working with your brain?

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was all real though. Even if it weren't the battle of Marathon or Thermoplyae were heroic enough.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The men and women who modeled for all those sculptures were real. The bodies depicted are real.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      he's prob talking about the stories

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How did they make those statues if they didn't have bodies like that then gay?

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I lift so i can be one day tje milf slayer that i always wanted to be

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    well do you want the body of a god or the body of a man?

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People tend to have an idealized view of ancient Greeks during the Homeric Age, but they were not at all what we imagine them to have been like. They were a tribalistic honor culture, basically a slightly more sophisticated version of ghetto blacks or the Pashtuns in contemporary Afghanistan.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bugman

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Neither is maho but I still lift for her

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lots of ancient greeks looked like the statues. You can see them in the paintings.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      not coping, but experience of being natty - I think a lot of ancient hellenes were in fantastic aesthetic shape, but not QUITE as good as our expectations of statues - almost all images of statues not only reflect light like statue material does, not flesh and skin, and they are almost always in favourable lighting to favour that view ofc.
      TLDR; ancient hellenes would look aesthetic af in some lighting but for the most part look quite regular, basically pic related. aesthetic af in this lighting, but sure to look quite normal in bad lighting.

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It appears that the Mycenaean religion was the mother of the Greek religion[80] and its pantheon already included many divinities that can be found in classical Greece.[81] However, Greek mythology is generally seen as having heavy influence of Pre-Greek and Near Eastern cultures, and as such contains few important elements for the reconstruction of the Proto-Indo-European religion.[82] Consequently, Greek mythology received minimal scholarly attention in the context of Indo-European comparative mythology until the mid 2000s.[83]

    there's a reason IE archeologists never talk about Grecoroman myths

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The epics are retellings of retellings (about 40 times over). A lot of heroes of myth were either real or based on real people.
    The nemean lion was probably a lion with thick skin that learned how to fight men, hell it could have been a guy with pelts on top.
    It was probably daid Achiles was invincible because the mofo was just THAT good.
    Most of the Godly interventions were likely events that either couldn't be explained or the victims of retelling.
    Like: the plague that assailed the Acheonians while marching to Troy struck so hard it must have been sent by Apollo himself!
    Turned into: Apollo, ever favoring the fair peoples of Troy sent a plague to stall the Acheonians!
    This is a very common phenomenon in human history,because it sounds awesome and playwrights had to sell their craft

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Goodbye everyone, this was a great thread. Looking forward to posting with you anonymously.

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