Come take a seat. Have a drink, on the house. How's your weekend going? Break any PRs at the gym? She left you on read again? Tell me about it.
Stop procrastinating and begin your healthy life today!
Come take a seat. Have a drink, on the house. How's your weekend going? Break any PRs at the gym? She left you on read again? Tell me about it.
I'm fine. I bought a UFC ab roller on amazon for $5.88 (they still have some they're 60% off rn) and my right bicep is still sore and i want tacos
how you get a sore bicep from an ab roller? you might not be using it right.
i didn't say i got the bicep thing from the ab roller. i said i bought an ab roller and my bicep was also sore from a bicep curl i wasn't ready for
My 4 year relationship is over. I feel devastated. I wonder how long it will take to feel good again
Around 4 or 5 months. Let yourself wallow in the grief and feel the sadness, then snap yourself out of it.
Why yes, I do spend a significant portion of each day thinking about all the things I regret and how I should have done them differently.
It depends on a lot of things
you have to let yourself grieve with time
but also please don't end up one of those cucks that still miss their ex years after they're gone, put work into yourself and also into actuaqlly challenging the depressed thoughts that comes after
Have a positive sexual experience with a new women
the worst thing you can do is to still have them in your life whether that's by following her on IG/snapchat/tiktok or whatever faggy social media you use. Cut her out completely, never ever see her again (at least for a good year) and be open to meeting new women. Having a oneitis turns a man into a pathetic beta cuck and being dumped by a girl is a perfect recipe for developing a oneitis.
Ended a 3 year relationship myself yesterday.
>Up to 2 days ago every fucking second spent with her was filled with agony and resentment.
>finally (after months) muster up the balls to break up with her
>instantly feel like she's the most beautiful woman in the world and my one true love
why am I such a gay?
Did you try talking to her and figuring out what you were feeling like that?
We often talked but I couldn't say my main gripe without instantly torpedoing the entire relationship (which was me not finding her attractive anymore).
I felt like she was suffocating me and I didn't like the language barrier but I mostly just passive-aggressively manipulated the relationship (by pissing her off on purpose in small ways many times) until I've built up so much resentment that I couldn't bear it anymore.
She was like "ugh finally" which was like a stab in my heart.
In the end I ended up with the feeling that it was me who ruined the relationship which kind of makes it worse and is probably the reason why I want her back now.
But if you don't find her attractive anymore, why try to get back with her? When you think about all the good from the relationship, does it outweigh the bad? Anon, I've fucked up A LOT in past relationships and can resonate with what you're saying. It never bothered me until this last one. I think you need to write down everything you're feeling and everything you want to say, then reach out to her. Apologize for your behavior and explain that you want to get back with her and make things right. Be prepared she might say no, but that's the consequences of your actions. You have to decide if this is what you truly want, I knew it was what I wanted when I was physically pained from thinking of how I lost my ex due to being an asshole. I hope you find your answer anon, I truly do
>But if you don't find her attractive anymore, why try to get back with her?
Because I do again now which is... byeond retarded but idk why my brain works like that.
>I think you need to write down everything you're feeling and everything you want to say, then reach out to her. Apologize for your behavior and explain that you want to get back with her and make things right.
Thanks, you are probably right, I should do that. We didn't go no contact, in fact she was the first one to write me after the breakup (to tell me she left a shampoo bottle at my place and if I could bring it over at some point).
I will wait 1-2 weeks before reaching out to make sure it's not just some stupid post-breakup short-circuit reaction. We genuinely did have a lot of incompatibilities and I feel like I'm ignoring all of them currently.
>Be prepared she might say no, but that's the consequences of your actions.
Yeah, it truly is. In a way it finally feels "right" because I shouldn't have been getting away with what I was doing for that long in the first place
>I knew it was what I wanted when I was physically pained from thinking of how I lost my ex due to being an asshole
How did it end up for you?
Sounds like you have a good plan to follow. As for me, I poured my heart out which is something I never do, and apologized saying that I realize now how fucked up my actions were. I asked for another chance and she simply replied, "No, just no, but thanks" and walked away. Not a day goes by that I don't think of her and what could have been, as lame as that sounds, but I got my answer and the pain went away. I promised myself to become a better man after experiencing what I've put others through and I'd say it's working. I didn't mean to type out a lot of shit. Anon, even if you decide not to get back with her, at least your acknowledged your bad behavior. You've grown a little more as a person and I'm happy for you. YGMI
Thanks bro. Might sound gay but you genuinely made my day today. YGMI
I find it so crazy, I guess comical, that 10 years ago I was such a desperate low self esteem and insecure KHV that I’d have taken any girl who gave me chance. And now, I’m the complete opposite. I’ll have girls into me, throw themselves at me sometimes, or even girls who share my autistic interest that very few women are into, and if I don’t like her I don’t even give them the time of day.
Example I have a girl on bumble into the same shit I am, but she’s bird faced so I won’t respond to her.
My ex has been blowing me up, but I won’t even acknowledge it because she’s never apologized for the reason we broke up and I don’t wanna welcome that toxic shit back in my life. She’s the hottest women I’ve been with, and I’ve been celibate since I left her, I’m over it. But purely because of this principle I won’t entertain it and I’d rather remain celibate while I work on myself.
Idk what changed, I guess experience and I’ve gained wisdom and pussy no longer has that power over me. But I guess I’m happy.
I’m still slacking at school but I’ve studied more in the past two weeks and am putting in more effort. I really need to quit coming to this site incessantly though when I should be working.
My lifts and body are improving. It’s a good feeling when you know you’ve blown past the original level of muscle you were going for (Brad in fight club). I’ll need to cut in 2024, but before then, it’s just a climb up to 180 or so and doing lots of isolation work for the best rounded physique I can.
How did you got out of ur situation in the past, anon?
You’re not gonna like it but the following helped me
>age 17 start getting health in order, lose all the fat more than 100lbs
>18 start lifting first semester of college
Just being real, I grew to be 6’2” from 17-18 and I was skinny now. I had tons of girls at college always giving me eyes and a few in classes trying to talk with me or straight up hit on me. But due to chronically low self esteem from having been the fat kid for 17 years I didn’t think I was somehow attractive, I thought I was so ugly they just had to stare or were flirting for laughs. So I couldn’t capitalize on it.
Made a mantra. Any insecure or negative thought I’d back myself up with a positive. “Fuck that shit I’m a pimp I’m the shit.” Until I started cutting the negative off immediately to think a positive instead. This helped me gain confidence
>19-20 started forcing myself to socialize
Joined a club, found some people hanging on campus who seemed cool and I tried to join them and by chance they had all just met that day and were barely na established circle.
>Here comes the memery
I had a circle now, had girls in my classes hitting on even straight up hugging on my arm, but whenever I actually tried to date or hang out with one, I sperged super hard out of nervousness. I wasn’t doing the right things either I was just super nice thinking I had to offer a Disney tier delusion. I began
>red red pill shit
>found a guide
The guide was on Boyd building forums dot com. You’ll find it by searching things like “juiceheads guide for getting laid” “juiceheads text game guide” it’s priceless. But its not good for long term growth. Just for going from desperate inexperienced virgin to getting laid asap. Not good for a real long lasting relationship. Although there’s carry over.
>age 20 got laid
She was a whore, daddy issue BPD thot with all kinds of issues. But I did it within a day of meeting her. After that it got easier to meet other girls.
Thanks for the read, anon. I'm trying to "un-NEETfy" myself but it's been rough, I also did the same meme stuff you pointed, NoFap, reading Book of Pook which is probably almost the same PUA bs you read aswell or just common sense/basic stuff men should know.
Unfortunately for me, I wasn't born as tall as you and even though I've stopped caring about that (it was worse in my teenage years) I do believe life would've been easier dating wise if I had a few more inches, maybe I'm coping, I'm from South America and see plenty of successful manlets, there's no point grieving about things I can't choose, I just have to deal with the cards I've been given to and at the very minimum be a fit dude. Been only lifting for 5 months.
I hope you can find peace and happiness, we're 2 different sides of a coin, living in two different parts of the world but yet we meet here in a lonely Sat night of IST feelsbar.
We're all gonna make it.
>from South America and see plenty of successful manlets, there's no point grieving about things I can't choose, I just have to deal with the cards I've been given to and at the very minimum be a fit dude
You simply understanding this puts you leaps ahead of most. When I was learning back then I befriended several men who were getting laid constantly. One was 5’7”, another 5’6”, and one guy was even 5’. They were way better at getting pussy than even I am today. They simply didn’t give a fuck. What one explained to me is it’s fine to get rejected, and that he “gets rejected daily.” He was successful because he didn’t give a fuck and just kept trying. That doesn’t mean run around trying to fuck every woman in your vision, but just to not dwell on rejection and keep moving forward and even learn to laugh it off.
I didn’t include that to out you down or demoralize you btw, just pointing out I’m a massive shy autist and it’s absolutely the only reason why I was able to make progress as fast as I personally did.
Forgot to mention & ran out of space to add it anyways:
I was good looking once lean, but nothing crazy. The height helped me here. Being super skinny I think I had some Pete Davidson look to me and idk why young women like that. But without that I’d have still done the same tactics, just throwing it out there it 100% was the reason I had multiple women staring at me wherever I went.
Also on the meme shit I did
>lift, cold showers, nofap
We’re what I did. Having a life structure helped to I believe. Wake up at 4am, cold shower, gym, cold shower, classes, hang on campus alone/with friends after making them, go home around 3pm
Forgot this too, I had to stop caring about pussy. Which is where nofap helped. I “gained control” if you know what I mean. It gave me confidence. I also consciously chose to stop worrying about getting laid and decided everyone male or female would just be another person to me. All I cared for was to meet two daily goals, being 1.) be productive somehow and 2.) to have fun at some point or laugh/smile at least once. If I did that then I was happy and satisfied. I believe this helped, 100%.
And lastly pro tip: strongly consider befriending women first. Even if you use juice heads guide and fuck one quick, try to just remain FWB for at least 3/4 months. And try to meet other women too. Don’t stick your dick in crazy. And if you do, don’t date crazy.
> Just stop caring
This honestly works the best for lifting out of it. Quitting pornography is vital as well. Especially when it comes to talking to girls, not caring is the best method. If you sit there thinking of the right thing to say, you're just going to make yourself a nervous mess. If you just roll with the moment and say whatever flies into your head, you're chances improve significantly.
i want to kill myself
things will never be well emough, i eventually hate almost everything i do or make
Or, and hear me out, you don't have a nice day
just got banned from wow for asking what gender an npc was in the general chat, i will make it to the gym an extra time this week so i can continue to be stronger than these cretins, if they wanna declare war against me for being straight then its only fair i declare war on them for being gays. sadly this is the world we live in.
Glad to see more people are waking up.
A S C E N D
31 years old and I do nothing. I have no skills, no abilities, few interests. I have no friends, no relationships, and barely speak to people during the day. I have no ambition, no motivation, and I don't care about anything or anyone. I am the most incomprehensibly miserable person you can fathom. The only "accomplishment" I reach each day is getting through an entire day without committing suicide, which I am desperate to do but I'm too afraid to attempt.
Do you go to the gym or work out? Because that's an interest and ability right there, even if you don't think of it that way.
Yeah I said few interests. Gym/working out is an interest but it means nothing.
When you say you have “no interests” what exactly do you mean? When you have spare time away from work/responsibilities/daily tasks and chores, etc how do you spend it?
relax, bro. Life is amazing, life is beautiful. Take control of your life one small step at a time. Stop being a moron. Take control and relax
I've got horrible DOMS and I think I've developed a crush within a week of talking to someone and sometimes it seems like they feel the same way and other times it seems like I'm being bro-zoned. I didn't know I could fall for someone that hard and fast, it's disturbing to me. Even my family noticed.
Is there any way to actually stop being a low status male? I’ve never really fit in with people, I try being social but literally nobody reciprocates, I’m like a human repellent and I don’t know why. I’m not loud or over opinionated, I’m not rude or anything. People just say that I’m boring or too quiet. Am I just ugly or something? I’m 5’7, age 20. People say I’m average face. I’ve never dated or had sex, I can’t even really make friends and struggle to get along with coworkers and stuff. I’m not sure why but it seems I’m just universally disliked. How do you even fix this? I’m clinically diagnosed Asperger’s
It's the aspergers.
>Go to climbing outdoor
>People working on trail cleaning sides of wall but not middle
> I ask if it's cool if I climb in the middle
>They said sure they weren't working there
>Tie off anchor
>Yell rope down middle and give it a five count
>Kick rope off to not hit anyone on trail
>Everybody started yelling I just hit someone
>Guy comes up pissed and looks like he wants to swing on me
>I asked him if he heard when I yelled rope
>He said yes
>Not even mad
>Everybody else seething
>Park ranger asks me to leave until they're done with the trail
Maybe the guy wasn't a climber and he didn't know what rope meant
Still kind of shitty they told you they were not working on the middle section and then had someone over there
Went to this cool rooftop techno bar/club alone last night. I haven’t drank this year and I was kind of anxious going solo but I forced myself to go instead of playing BF2042. It was pretty fun even though I didn’t talk to any girls. Just vibed to the music. I’m proud of myself for not pussying out. Gonna go to another club in the upcoming weeks solo again
It's good you showed you can do it alone but I did the bar scene by myself for a little and it just gets boring
Imo if you get a hobby which has you interact with people that's more fun and you meet better people that way
Thanks. I do rock climbing too. It’s easy to meet acquaintances, but I haven’t made many actual friends yet.
Yeah, I can see how the bar scene could be boring solo unless you’re very extroverted. I’d only go to a bar if I was meeting a friend or date. But the places I’m talking about are more so clubs/raves with DJs and techno music so it’s fun to just go alone and listen to music and dance.
>haven’t made many actual friends yet
making actual friends is tough m8
Im glad people are nice enough at the gym
never done one of those solo myself but did a few over the years with friends
Also aside from getting bored at bars it did become a money soak also
love you for that anon. I did the same yesterday. I thought I've never done this, so it's time. And you know what it was fun as hell. I even got a booty call out of it
suicide is the adult version of a temper tantrum
she's positively reinforcing your choices because she wants them to continue
ex was kinda uggo but fantisized about taking me to the club and me rejecting other women for her. ive never been to one. saw some of the reels from this place. i'd be one of if not the most attractive dude there. friends 7/10 guy friend gets swarmed by girls around close. tempted to go there and see how i can do, i just dont really care much.
its possible its in your head too. i have bad days where i feel awful, any neutral look from someone feels like a scowl. but its not real, its just a bad day. if you're an aspie, work on how you talk. if you have a fairly abrupt way of speaking that sounds a bit cold people won't like it as much, even if you mean the opposite.
i went from being a 33 year old khv to routinely fucking 19 year olds, having people enjoy my presence, networking, generally being the life of the party sometimes. you can do it too, you will need to work on it.
do not do it solely for puss. do it for yourself and your sense of wellbeing.
Takes balls. I wouldn’t do that
Recently I have been telling my parents that I am going to kill myself. They show no real concern or care about it besides platitudes. My father only cares about me moving out of the house because I am 30 and a pathetic loser. I told him my plan of leaving the house is killing myself and that he shouldn't worry because then I'll be permanently out of the house. I'm not trying to be edgy to them or anything, but it was truthful. Then he tries to go into how I have so much to live for, why do i want to kill myself, etc. A lifetime of social isolation, no friends, no relationships, living with my parents, pathetic job. Yeah, why am I so depressed? Why on earth would I want to kill myself?
I want it all to be over. Please end this.
Your dad knows your threats are emotional manipulation so he doesn’t take it seriously. If you’re going to do it then do it.
Why talk about it? Waiting for someone to fix your life for you?
You got any tea? Earl Grey if you got it, green otherwise.
Bros, what the fuck is happening? I've been dieting for two weeks and I started lifting two days ago. I've lost five pounds, but haven't really made any gains otherwise. I did some yardwork with my wife yesterday, and she kept complimenting and fucking flirting with me. Saying shit like "you'd look extra hot with an arm tattoo" and finding any excuse to touch my chest. I know it sounds obvious, like of course a wife would act that way with her husband, but you don't understand, this isn't the type of person she is. Like, in general - she has never in all the years I've known her actively swooned or mired ANYONE with a muscular body, even guys who have actively hit on her. In her own words, she doesn't give a shit about muscles so much as personality (which is how a fat nerd like me managed to score her as a wife in the first place). She's seen me naked pretty much daily, she KNOWS what I look like and has never said she thinks I'm hot, so this kind of behavior is new. I'm trying very hard to temper my excitement because I very well might just be overthinking it, especially since I haven't made any significant gains, but is the fact that I am actively working towards being fit making her more attracted to me? Because if so, that is a fucking shot of lightning to an already amazing feedback loop.
I'm really not trying to brag or anything, this is literally something I've never experienced before and I want some insight into it.
All sane women like fit guys. Even the ones who say they don't, being muscular or even just working towards it increases your attractiveness to women exponentially. And if you she already finds your personality attractive, by getting fit you are essentially becoming her dream guy. Keep it up, anon!
>In her own words, she doesn't give a shit about muscles so much as personality (which is how a fat nerd like me managed to score her as a wife in the first place).
She's either coping because she loves you enough for it not to matter, or lying to keep you from feeling insecure. Now that she has the opportunity to have a muscular guy (who is also you), she's jumping at it
Just some water for now. Do you anons ever think of how your life might be in other universes? Like in one universe where things worked out with an ex that you lost in this one or you got the job you wanted that you didn't get in this one? I like to think about it sometimes and congratulate my other versions for achieving those things. It doesn't stop me from achieving my goals, but it is nice to think about every now and then, knowing the other versions of me are happy and are also making it. Probably some cope in there but it's cool to think about.
Life as a nonsperg is incomprehensible to me
I graduated with my associates today at 27yo after pulling myself out of years of self-destructive stagnation and alcoholism. It doesnt feel like anything
Thank you brehs, I wish you luck on your own academic journeys
>people seriously overhype events like these and i'd argue most people say it to fit in. felt fucking hollow to me.
Exactly my feelings on it. I chose to walk so I could bring my folks up so they could attend the grad ceremony they've been wanting to for years. The way some people get fixated on the idea of a degree is so strange to me. It's great for me to have but they act like it's the answer to all life's problems.
My life goals mostly revolve around helping to conserve what we can of the environment in the face of rampant pollution and excessive urbanization. A degree helps but a degree wasn't really a life goal of mine, per se. There's much work yet to do
it will in time. grad felt like nothing to me too. it wont be a specific moment, more like things coming together and you realize you're more content with life.
people seriously overhype events like these and i'd argue most people say it to fit in. felt fucking hollow to me.
Same, however it means I'm one step closer to achieving my goals. Good job graduating anon
Good work anon, even if it isn't Harvard tier academia gayry, the credentials can help you get to where you want. I stumbled ass backwards through my 2 year, am finishing up a 4 year (albeit I'm slacking like crazy and need to focus) and started filling out the application for grad school. I'm hoping that applying will also force me to wake up and start taking my current school more seriously.
what are your life goals and why did this not fufill any of them
congratulations, sir. hope and faith abound.
i'll take some heavily carbonated water, thanks.
been on the carnivore diet for 30 days now and had amazing results and i feel incredible.
but i really really want to go on a good old fashioned eating spree like i used to do which made me fat in the first place.
while i do feel really incredible, i had to give up the only thing that made my life kinda worth living.
plus my weightloss has stalled for like a week now, where i was losing weight daily in the weeks before that which really makes me want to do it even more.
i won't do it though. this shit has basically taken everything from me, i don't have a career, or money, or a family or anything.
old habbits die hard though.
i currently have two girls who are interested in me. one coworker and one at the gym.
the coworker straight up started massaging my shoulders and squeezed my bicep saying my arms are big. the gym girl spills spaghetti and asked for my snapchat
i should be happy, they are both a solid 7/10 but in a relationship. these hoes ain’t loyal man goddamn it i just want to find my wife
I think I'm falling in love with a girl a close friend just started seeing.I will never undermine my bro, so I think none of them can ever know. What lift for this feel, bros?
she isn't worth your bro m8, dont go for her
there will be others for you for sure
I know, and I won't. It just feels like shit bro.
The forest fire smoke is blocking the sun again
That's fucking rough, man. Is anyone at any level of government even pretending to care?
t. BC boy
Electron this month so just a bunch of larping that they will do something. It’s snowing ash too.
Is Smith getting back in? The CBC and CTV news assure me that bro the NDP is poised to take over but didn't they only win 2015 because the Wildrose party crossed the aisle en masse and offended the entire province?
Granted I think Smith had something to do with that but my understanding was the UCP was pretty much untouchable and liberal media looks at Edmonton like Alberta will have an orange wave any day now.
I honestly have no idea who will win. My bumfuck nowhere town is mostly blue but I see some NDP signs. A lot of people tend to muddy provincial parties with federal ones, so they would vote UCP because they hate Trudy. It is going to fucking hilarious if Notley gets in and is blamed for the fires again lmao.
Since this is IST I ain’t doing any cardio outside lol, our air quality is currently the worst possible rating (11).
>been lifting since 16
>graduated with a MSc in engineering
>gained a high level good job with high responsibility, including other's safety at the workplace due to explosiveness of the products
>great guitarist and can speak four languages fluently
>Visible Abs and fit, reached 1/2/3 on ohp/bench/squat, dont do deadlifts
>all my friends have moved away or gotten into relationships and dont have time for anything
>coworkers loves me but they are all 40+ men, been invited to their weekly sauna and attended so i have that at least
Still 24 years old, no gf or friends left or anything, starting to feel hopeless. Was always told to just focus on my studies and myself and everything would work out later in my life and would have no trouble getting popular or girls. Looking back, I skipped all parties and never even had alcohol until I was 23 and dont even drink since i see no point, or feel anything from it. Sometimes some girls said "want to come to my place and study" but living with overprotective parents out in the countryside, i was scared to not be home directly after school until i moved out a year ago, so i just said "no i cant, i dont even need to study for that test". Some girls were shoved into me by their friends in the corridors but i was too stupid to understand. One time, one girl came and hugged me from nowhere, I felt so happy until i heard her friends laugh and say it was just a dare. I've tried dating apps but they are just depressing, and when I do match with a 5/10 but cute girl, they never respond or just unmatch quickly. It is not my messages since a female friend helped me setup the profile as well as how i should write. I've been reading and practicing stoicism for about three years now but even if it works i just feel so empty. Anyway, not sure what the point is by writing this.
I think your problem is exposed in the way you opened your post. Before you even got into what you actually wanted to say you listed all the things about how successful and desirable you are before complaining you get no pussy.
Your problem is you're a sperg who can't talk to women, and no amount of lifting, workplace success or skills will fix that. Of course you could get rich and bag some thot but why would you ever want that. There's basically no fix to it either.
Join a club or a sports team to meet other guys in their early to mid 20s. Even asking a bro for a spot and striking up a conversation could be a start.
Not drinking is fine, just don't make a deal of it. Order something with no alcohol if you're going out.
Once you're hanging out with guys your age you'll get opportunities to meet women, assuming you're not hanging out with other IST users. Hanging out with the bros is also excellent practice at socializing in general so you can act more normal.
loves me but they are all 40+ men, been invited to their weekly sauna and attended so i have that at least
Network. See if any of them have a single daughter.
Also seconding that you just need more socialization. Hang out with peers. I'd honestly recommend drinking. It does a lot to help with social anxiety.
Go to church. It really is that simple. And if you currently go to church, get more involved in it.
You saying no doesn’t change anything about your situation, and you will remain unhappy.
what a loser
Was having a great day and I was going to a guitar lesson, but of course I immediately get stuck behind the two slowest drivers I’ve ever seen, really, on the one road to the damn lesson. They made the whole drive take an extra 15 minutes such that by the time I got there I would have been 10 minutes late for a 45 minute lesson. I road raged majorly, was thrashing in my car and honking and screaming, rolled the windows down and screamed at them to die and get out of my way when they finally arrived at their destination and got the fuck off the road. By the time I’d have gotten there I was so late and so worked up and pissed that I just called the guy and told him I was in traffic and was so angry that I wouldn’t be able to do the lesson today. So I paid for nothing and had an extreme outburst of anger that has now left me feeling low disappointed and frustrated
I fucking hate slow drivers, sorry it ruined your day
I posted this in the last thread just before it went to archive, I hope it's okay if I post it again.
Been reading through Pete Walker's "CPTSD: From Surviving to Thriving".
Came to the realization recently that I've had this image of myself since I was a child that I'm retarded and unlovable and any affection I get is purely patronizing and people want me to go away.
Worse than that, I'm realizing that a lot of my behavior over the years was me, on some level, trying to force people to think of me this way. I've lost some treasured friendships because of this.
The few times in my life I was able to snap out of this way of thinking for more than an hour, I actually have perfectly functional social skills. I know intellectually that I'm not retarded or ugly. I just feel an overwhelming compulsion to sabotage myself, to the point where I stopped noticing that I was feeling it until I started reading the aforementioned book.
I'm no redditor, I understand that it's my responsibility to fix this and while I can forgive myself for my past toxic behavior, it doesn't mean other people have to forgive me.
I'm 26 now and it gets really hard not to feel like I figured this out too late and even if I do learn to form healthy relationships that there aren't any more out there for me to form. It gets really hard not to feel crushed by how much better my life could have been by now.
I just needed to share my feelings. Thank you for reading.
Better late than never, don't dwell on the "what if" take the time to improve your life now that you read the book.
We're having elections in Greece tomorrow. I have no faith in the parties and the fairness of the process but I will go vote anyway. I fear that if I stop voting then I will have lost all my will to want to have a say in my life. Much of my flame has gone out over the years already.
Is Golden Dawn running or were they banned or something?
Nah, all their leadership is in prison
They very recently passed a new law that a party isn't eligible if it's leadership and top staff have a criminal record.
Banned. New Democracy, the big right party, goes after far right parties because they'd cost it voters.
Thanks, I'll have a marijuana cigarette dipped in PCP.
Life's just not working out right now.
Im worried about cancer bros. It's all so retarded. Does red meat cause it in some parts? How's onions recommended as an anti cancer stuff? How do you prevent DNA damage?
Ugh... I can't imagine doing all this and then 1 day it all crashes coz I ate something wrong.
This may sound like doomer spiel but most everything in life can and/or will fuck you up somehow at some point. Make the best of life while it's good, a lot of people don't even get that privilege.
On a long enough timeline everybody gets cancer.
Red meat is fine in moderation, eat plenty of vegetables, eat everything local and avoid anything with hormones or pesticides. Exercise regularly, do cardio, keep a healthy immune system.
Don't smoke or drink alcohol (any amount of alcohol increases your risk).
Basically the sort of stuff you would think of if someone asked you "how do I live healthy". You can autistically healthmaxx to truly minimize cancer risk but that's up to you.
Dont worry, even Stress can elevate your chances for cancer. There are millions of mutations Happening in a few hours in your cells, but your Body Just repairs all the damage. Just eat more of the good stuff which elevates your repair capacities and boosts your immune system in general.
I'll have a water please, driving a Bro 500 km to buy a Car tomorrow morning. Else Life is good, started a new Routine, didnt workout for a year. Feeling great all the time. Life is Just good, No GF at the Moment, but still very content with my Life right now. Wagmi
>hit it off with a coworker
>she's in her mid- to late- 30s, divorced, with kids
>she's clearly into me
>can turn it into a steamy office romance
>she starts sending me pictures of her children
Man I think I went to far with this stuff.
Should give keep fucking my ex wife?? She wants to get back but I'm not about that. The sex is too good not to partake in though if she's offering. Before anyone asks I fuck other women as well, so it's not a desperate situation.
She's out of your life, brother. Don't invite her back in. It will only cause trouble.
You've got to ask yourself if you can keep it strictly sexual. The answer for most people is no.
I get being sad about broken relationships and lost time. But you're 26 dude. There's still plenty of time to turn stuff around.
... you want the same woman to cuck you with alimony twice?
>Try to get big and strong
>Really hard to put on upper body muscle
>Two years of hard lifting
>Find a thing online that tells you muscle potential from body measurements
>10 percentile for men
>Start measuring other things
>Hands, wrists, ankles 30 percentile for women
>Hips 50 percentile for women
>Shoulders 40 percentile for women
>Get T checked
Well I guess this explains the chud thoughts I've had since I was a kid. My mom must've been drinking so much government tap water when she was pregnant. I think I might actually chud out holy fuck it's so over
Stay strong, bro. Get off the internet every now and then, it's not real life.
I'd try trt before chuding out. That's like next level desperation.
I'm committing suicide this week and hopefully I can reach a 3 pl8 bench before that happens
Why are you becoming an hero?
Okay, or here's an idea, you reach 3pl8 then train for 4pl8 no spotter. If you get it amazing, if you don't then you die. It's a win-win
If all my sisters are objectively attractive and have literal hundreds of orbiters, why am I a 29 year old incel when people say we look alike and I'm 6'. Now I'm even a fake natty with daily mires.
Yes I was a shut in from 16-22 and ruined my social life, and no I don't talk to women. Other than that.
Personality is a big factor. If your opinion of yourself boils down to "incel" it doesn't make me think you're a very nice person to be around, anon.
I don't think of myself like that I just used it literally. I go drinking with work friends when they invite me so it's can't be intolerable. Guess I should have just said where can I try my luck with wifeable women in the suburbs in 2023 at 29.
Us bonelets need to try harder just to be as good as thick wristed untrained guys. I'm on T and it's going well so far.
Bars and clubs? You want a whore? I don't understand the bar thing anyway. I've been to 100 work happy hours and I don't remember seeing even once anybody come alone.
Well, it might just be because you never try. You said you get daily mires but you never talk to women. I think you gotta put yourself out there.
>Bars and clubs? You want a whore?
What if I wanted a whore for a ONS? or as a fuckbuddy? Also all women are whores my friend. Only very few of them are truly chaste and it's not like I want to marry the virgin Mary, I don't care about that stuff.
You just got to learn how to socialize bro. Start going out to bars and being awkward as fuck in public.
I'm going out again to the pubs and clubs alone for some exposure therapy + battling my crippling fear and anxiety to talk to pretty women, stemming from years of bullying and humiliation in school (by girls, girls know how to shatter your psyche to pieces). Wish me luck
Good luck anon
Came back from the pubs alive and well. Got rejected by 1 chick, spilled my spaghetti and pussied out on two other attempts with two different girls in big groups.
How did you approach?
For the first girl, she looked extremely lost at that bar. I simply made some small talk for like 30 seconds. Asked if she was new to this place, and she said yeah she's very new. She then said she was waiting for an order of nachos for her and her boyfriend. I cut the convo from there and parted ways since she gave me all the info I needed and my phobia was starting to kick in, even after downing half a bottle of scotch. The other two I tried to approach from the front but again I got a piercing feeling in my chest and I started feeling very anxious, so I just creepily backed off like a bitch. Sucks to be mentally ill..
Better than what I did, I just stayed in playing xbox
25 and haven't been laid in 6 years. women just don't seem to find me fuckable - they say i'm good fun and good looking, but no one actually wants to date me or go out. i like powerlifting and am strong enough but am cutting down as a last resort to be attractive. had tinder but got no matches on it.
On to 30 + days of NoFap. Not one of those Indian Redditors who thinks it gives you superpowers but definitely noticed increased female attention. The other week I was at a restaurant with my family and the waitress was clearly into me. A really cute girl at work was walking across the office today while I was helping some old boomer lady with her computer and she made eye contact with me and smiled for a good three or four seconds. Also passed my driving test this week and have an interview next week for a promotion and I’m going to ask out a girl from my work this week. I think I love her even though I don’t know her that well and I think she’s into me too. I mentioned it to another girl we work with who had previously mentioned that she wanted to set her up with me, and she gave me her Instagram but I want to talk to her in person. Wish me luck bros. Good luck with whatever you guys need it for too.
my dad told me he regrets divorcing my mom and wouldn’t have done it had he known what impact it had on me. i used to be very active, cheerful and always happy/upbeat. then the divorce happened at age 12 and i have been depressed since. i don’t know why or how it fucked me up so much the way it did.
feel like a burden. i’m a neet at 23 meanwhile both my parents are incredibly supportive and always there for me. they would support me if i wanted to be homeless smoking crack and yet i can’t achieve anything. love you mom and dad.
You're 23, anon. You have plenty of time to turn things around. Your dad obviously cares about you, ask him for help getting your shit together. You've got a shitton of potential, my man, don't let it go to waste.
much love anon
Hey anon, your parents sound like mine in that they would support me no matter what. Unfortunately, sometimes we need a bit of tough love and if our parents are too nice to give that to us then we have to give it to ourselves. I too was NEET until 24 and the existential dread was getting worse by the day until it was unbearable. The thought of being 30 and completely reliant on parents like a child sucking from a tit filled me with complete shame and suicidal thoughts. It became: act then or live the rest of my days with shame and regret..
You need to start taking steps anon. The sooner you start the sooner you'll thank yourself
it fucked you up because I’m sure your mom got primary custody and she coddled and shielded you instead of pushing you and letting you make mistakes. this is why fathers are important and fatherlessness is the biggest cause of our current societal rot
>both my parents are incredibly supportive and always there for me
no wonder the divorce fucked you up. typical divorced parent syndrome where they will try to one up each other with love instead of the stability and discipline and tough love you would get in a healthy intact family setting. Your dad (or whoever initiated the divorce) fucked up massively. But don't hold it against him. Learn from it so your children won't face the same thing. You're only 23. Turn your fucking life around gay. Take a routine, workout, have a nice career, invest, find a girl and tell your gay parents to stop coddling you like you're some soft lispy gay. Your life is ahead of you, you're young. It's up to you to carve out your path. Godspeed.
>My parents love me and I lived a comfortable, safe life but I'm so #damaged
Get a job
Give me a fucking coffee, I need to fucking stay awake.
I'm having consistent fucking nightmares and I don't want to sleep. Past four fucking nights I haven't had a good nights sleep because I keep having horrible dreams, I know what caused them but I can't do anything about it except ride it out and FUCK I need it to be over with
debating over seeking out t therapy, I'm already fit but feel like i'm slowing down and loosing ground
fuck it, pint of beer. been binging now anyway. good workout but washed it all down to forget shit. tired of the same old same old. i wish there was someone out there for me, but it feels so lonely bruhs... we're all gonna make it, right?
> we're all gonna make it, right?
Got a temp job lined up in a month, but broke until then. I feel like an abject failure. I've been out of the gym for over 6 months, I turn 31 in three weeks and feel like shit. I've started barely doing some exercises again this week, but my eating habits are still awful, I'm broke, and I live at home. I want to do do so much, but I end up doing fucking nothing because I'm broke.
As for her, there hasn't been a her in 5-6, or is it 7 years now? I want someone who seems interested in me, not someone who'll settle for me. Being a lard-ass (360 lbs) I'm not getting any interest, and haven't for years. I have no option other than tinder to meet women in my area. I understand that I'm not owed not any pussy, but I'd like to at least feel like women aren't repelled by me. Decades of being told "it's what on inside" that counts and they all feel like liars now.
I'm this close to taking a fucking callcenter job because I'm desperate for both money and getting a job that doesn't just show me in a dark corner and doesn't pretend that I exist until I fuck up.
I just want to meet someone who is genuinely interested in me. I'm not begging to get my dick wet or a kiss, I just want someone who wants to know me for me.
As for my other ambitions, I want to help people and be part of the world. I just get met with more and more bullshit hurdles. I can't get even the government gibs me dat money for being unemployed despite having been gainfully employed and paid into the system. I also tried getting a recommendation for a therapist, and my doctor literally told me to just get some bitches on my dick and stop being sad.
Gonna go to take a fat shit now, then sleep, then do some volunteering tomorrow and hope I can muster the motivation to keep going. Even before totk came out, my fitness goal was aligned with something like how Link is physically. So tomorrow is gonna be scorching hot day in the sun, and plenty of water is the plan so far.
For the first time in my life i believe i genuinely have stopped caring about women. I've always pretended like i did, but in the back of my mind i was always thinking about "no gf" or when i saw friends and family with their families i would feel sad.
I don't know how but the only thing i care about is getting my body in the perfect condition because i more concerned with the body i'm going to take into the afterlife. I don't even eyefuck sexy sluts at the gym anymore, and i don't even have to try to avoid eye contact.
I really feel like i've ascended past this worlds bullshit problems, feels good bros 🙂
>think finally over obsessing with women
>someone unique comes along
>fall in love with her
>get heart broken
I'm starting to think that there's nobody out there for me.
I automatically assume any cute white girl i meet now has been with blacks, and i'm instantly not interested anymore. Its a fucked up way to stop caring, but theres probably a half truth to it anyway
Dude, check the statistics for your country, stop watching porn, and stop going on IST.
On track to make ~$120k this year, made ~$45 last year.
Starting to get real pressure to have kids.
Kinda just want to take the extra money and buy a cabin somewhere.
Writing this much is kind of killing the love for me.
Do you work as a writer? What do you write?
Mostly freelance writing for large businesses looking to scale. I handle online copy and charge ~30c/word.
Occasionally I'll work with a publishing house to ghost write something.
Curious.. do you use GPT4 at all? If not, have you experimented with it?
I use it to generate briefs. The writing is technically/grammatically correct, but dogshit outside of content-mill-level pieces.
Also, you have to put it through the wringer anyway to evade AI detectors. Can sometimes take as much time as just writing it yourself.
Also gpt4 struggles to provide a decent content score. Not to mention the complete lack of character in the writing means conversion is shit.
I am at peace.
I feel like I'm on the biggest crossroads of my life up to now. I'm starting my first real job in two weeks, and I got it despite not being qualified at all. It pays well and the benefits are nice. They even gave me an apartment for half a year. In december, I plan to move in with my gf.
BUT I feel like I'll fail because of my lack of technical skills and then my whole life will crash and burn forever. There's no way I'm getting another job if this one falls through. As a result, I'm super scared 24/7. I hope this feeling goes away over time.
I was in a similar situation myself, anon. I lucked into my dream job despite being woefully underqualified, only finding out several months later that it was on account of the company desperately needing to fill the role. I was anxious about it for quite a while, fearing that I would be canned any day. Hell, I was in charge of several people, each and every one more qualified than me. Two of them are almost twice my age, as well. Steadily though, I got into the groove of things by doing the job itself. People are generally pretty patient with new employees, so do stress out about it too much.
>finishing up internship
>boss's boss asks if I like it here and if I wouldn't mind taking a job there
>say sure, I like my coworkers and I enjoy the variety of work
>he says great, he'll draw up the paperwork
>gets back to me yesterday night and says they can't find a spot for me on the team, so sorry but it won't work out after all
I don't even really feel bad about it. I didn't think it was going to turn into a full job anyway, it was just nice to be offered the chance. I fully expected to just pack my stuff and disappear and never think about it again.
Is this what all jobs are like, bros? Just quietly filling out and re-filling out different kinds of spreadsheets, waiting for feedback on deliverables, making small talk at lunch and just waiting for the day to end? Compared to the shit I did in college this just feels like sleepwalking.
There are tons of different jobs out there but the "waiting for the day to end" part is pretty spot on everywhere you go.
>Is this what all jobs are like, bros?
yes, its pretty much being one link in a chain and pulling things from others to get shit done but then again im a project leader. Its like "hey whats up man, yeah what did you do during the weekend? okay sounds fun. I'd like you to do X when you got some time over, okay? No hurry man". It works 9/10 times and my boss is super happy while i dont really do anything myself but get more paid than them. It is important to praise the others when you get results such as "yeah we did that and resulted in X, big thanks to....". I studied a shit ton of calculus but this is what I do all day.
Not all jobs are like that. I had a similar experience though.
>Work as a software engineer for a company
>Bust my ass there for virtually no pay at all
>Managers keep baiting me by using the old carrot on the stick method, whenever I ask for a raise or a promotion
>fast forward to 2 weeks ago, I get a job offer at another place which pays roughly +90% more + title promotion than what I currently earn
>I put my notice on Friday to my bosses boss, since my boss was on vacation
>My bosses boss tells me to give them until Monday so that he can discuss the possibility of a counter offer with upper management
>I know exactly where this is going. I accept but deep down I know what's going to happen, so I still deliver my notice
>ffw to Monday bosses boss writes me at 3pm saying "sorry the difference in pay is too big, we will have to let you go kthxbye"
Never take anything for granted, especially if they put you in the back burner for so long like in my case. If they really want you in the team, they will do absolutely everything in their power to extend you an offer within the next 12 hours, otherwise they're just wasting your time. Thankfully I'm now about to start this new job in ~2 weeks time. Always put yourselves first lads, companies truly don't give a shit about you.
>Always put yourselves first lads, companies truly don't give a shit about you.
The truth. I graduated last year, engineer. Went in with 300% effort from day one despite being in the lowest tier of the salary statistics for my masters. Ffw to salary negotiations, my boss suggested an increase of 100 USD/month or an alterantive salary where the increase was 300 USD but I had to have a lower salary for a while and would break even after 12 months. I told them I needed time to think, then after a week said i will not have that 300 usd model but want more than 100. They called back a week later and said "150, not more". It hurts but the company nor your boss cares about you or your performance. After that I've gone full Costanza and i am currently searching for other jobs, got one offer but that is 2 hours of commute away.
I will finally be able to pay for my second citizenship next year.
Is starting a undergrad degree at 25~26 years old to late? I feel literally like trash for doing this shit so late in life, that's straight up humiliating.
What's your plan to complete it, just taking a few classes per semester for five or six years? It's too late to Go To College, sure, but completing a degree is reasonable if it advances your career and doesn't fuck up your life on the outside.
I would like to use my degree to apply in civil service job or try to use it to a officer candidate academy.
I don't have much of a life in my home country, so I have decided that after obtaining my second citizenship, I will start from scratch in another place.
I also just realized my mental health is declining pretty hard. I think I might got suicidal thoughts once a while. I am also struggling to eat in time and to sleep.
Currently I am unemployed and waiting to assume a position in a civil service here, so I don't have money to therapy. I don't know how to deal with this situation.
Don't worry about it. The social situation will be wierd but you'll be glad you did it. I did that and ended up in a wayyyy better situation than was previously possible with regards to career shit
Got broken up with last week. What pisses me off though is how it has happened before in the exact same way. Where the woman wants to somehow secure the promise of a financially secure future with me once she's done with her hoe phase and her youth has evaporated. That pisses me off so fucking much and it's happened so many times. I tried using tinder to get over her but I feel like there's something wrong with most people on there. Physiognomy is real.
Sorry you got broken up with anon
Drink on the house? I'll have a Col EH Taylor single barrel bourbon, double, neat.
I got promoted at work but I'm worried. I was a software engineer on a development team but got hand picked by the higher ups to be promoted to software architect and now report directly to vice president of engineering. I'm now expected to produce software architecture designs that will be followed by more than 50 software engineers. Like if I fuck up and they waste time doing shit that doesn't work out that will cost over $500k/month lost productivity and make everybody mad. The part im worried about is being able to focus on my work, which is now very important. When I was doing software development I would usually not do anything the first half of the day, take a 2 hour lunch and have a few drinks, and then only doing at most 2 hours of work at the end of the day. That was fine because the work my team did fit my precise skill niche so I could appear and sound busy while getting more done than my team members even in those 2 hours. I'm worried I won't be able to do that anymore and instead might end up making some mistake or big mess at work, unlike before where I could get by with minimal effort.
My wagie job is burning me out but I got no back up options. I dont earn enough for what I do and most days are just soul draining. Unreal to think this could be potentiality it for us for life
you were not born to pay bills and die, anon. I wish I had a solution to it, but I've been in the same boat as you at my last two jobs. I hope you and all the other troubled anons in here find a path to a better and more rewarding tomorrow, friends.
>water, as always.
i need adivice bros.
>told her that i want to date her and ask her for her number
>she says yes with a smile and gives me her number
>fastforward a couple of days i go to see her in my way to collegue to confirm the date
>she doesnt confirm. She says "we will see"
>that night i send her a message saying that she needs to confirm me
>she doesnt respond
> i went to see her today
> "i didnt see your message"
> of course dont believe her. Tell her lets go eat ice cream tomorrow
> i dont have time
> fuck it, i directily told her that she needs to tell me if im losing my time so i move on.
> she smiles but doesnt say anything for a few moments.
> "i really dont have time"
> i think about it and ended up telling her that i will be back.
> she smiles when she hears that
The fuck is happening bros?
my red pilled self is saying that she probably has other guys lining up (she is a solid 8), Might be fucking one of them, but im good enough to keep baited so she doesnt want to give me a direct answer, isnt it?
Another option a little bit more optimistic, she likes me but no enough to give me a straight "fuck yes" so she is playing hard to get because every woman wants to be chased by an atractive enough guy.
What is her deal bros? Should i keep playing this game of asking her out or should i move on?
How can you even ask if you should move on after you were turned down N solid times? Also women hate it when a random guy says "you need to do X".
she was the one who gave signals first and she initially said yes and gave me her phone.
yeap. im still overweight so starting today im gonna hard swallow the lean pill. Im already muscular and manly and girls notice me.
i cant wait to see how it will be when i become lean and ripped.
You're not her #1 option. Move on
Never talk to her or acknowledge her existence again. If she has a friend, try to fuck her friend.
You are a king. You wait for nobody. She has proven herself to be below you. Start hitting on 9 and 10's in front of her with the confidence that you were slumming it by talking to her
You already know the answer. Ghost her and move the fuck along because shes playing stupid games.
You're a beta and she's playing you cause she likes easy attention
I got super fat and drank last night.
Woke up with a hangover for the first time in like a year
Still, i went to the gym and got back on my diet today
my grandma who i loved very dearly died this week a year ago. it has been a hard week, i've been very irritable, i've hardly trained. i managed to do get a new pr with weighted pullups at 32.5 kg for 9 on monday tho. i still feel like i failed her with how i've been living, with how i keep sabotaging myself, with how i just can't progress in life. i've wanted to watch that one movie we'd always watch together and drink a bottle of whisky in like three months but i didn't even manage to do that. at least i've been there for my mom, i guess. i feel shit tho
Your grandma knows you love her anon. Keep making her proud.
Hispaniced rum and ginger beer, please. No ice; I used to work in a bar, I know how filthy those ice machines get. If you cut me a fresh slice of lime, there's a good tip in it for you.
I'm doing okay. Finally into a consistent gym routine, 3-4 times a week. Doing the Stronglifts 5x5 routine, with a mile or so of treadmill running afterwards. Been at it for a few months now. I already look and feel much better. Wanna keep it going, though, see how fit I can get.
Any advice on when to ditch 5x5, or when to incorporate other exercises into the routine?
>nofap streak longest in months
>took college entrance exam
>no clue if i passed or failed
>already dropped out twice
>may have a date next week
idk anons. it feels like progress but also has an equal chance of blowing up. except nofap, i can at least control that.
This past week has been one of the best weeks of my life. I am nearing the end of my last semester of school, and awhile ago I came to the realization that I will never see 80% of my classmates again. This has helped me not care about what other people think (something I struggle with), and I've been doing my own thing with my friends. Last night we camped out on the roof of one of the school buildings. Next week, we're grilling in the parking lot. This shit is awesome. We're just screwing around and having a good time. I finally feel like I've actually made some good friends, ones that I really enjoy being around and who enjoy being around me. I've never felt mentally clearer, happier, or better than I do now. Having friends and people to talk to helps a lot. I even got the confidence to start talking to this girl I've liked for awhile - turns out she's taken, but that doesn't really matter, there's plenty of other cute girls to talk to. For the first time in a long time, I am actually looking forward to summer break, I'll actually have people to spend it with. For once, I'm excited for the future.
Do your friends invite you frequently to hangout? My "friends" never invited me to hangout not anything...
Your friends shouldn't invite you frequently. You can burn the friendship that way. It's almost like dating, you should see your friend(s) once or twice a week, and manage your own life apart from that. The sign of a good friendship is somebody who gives as much as they take. You give invites (generally to social "things", not to "hang out") and you get them. Most people just take, so you can delete them from your phone.
Yeah, that's clearly not happening with my "friends". I give way more (invites, social activities) than I get (I barely see them like once every 6 months).
>You give invites (generally to social "things", not to "hang out")
not that anon but I realized I want to be more of a host and bring people together. I have this group of acquaintances from a university club I want to invite to a small house party shindig, but I'm not quite sure what. Namely, I realized this place I'm renting which I'm not gonna be living in soon has a great common area for that and I figure I should use it while I can. I want to involve some evening drinking since that is fun.
Do you have any advice for structuring this evening? I already set up a group chat
Doesn't need a structure, you invite people and if they can't enjoy themselves, it's not your problem. Provide music, ask people to bring a bottle and a shareable food. Don't get over-invested in making it "the night". Unless it's a closed thing, I'd prefer to invite people from different social groups / activities, people enjoy mixing groups. Also be generous and open with invitations, "over-invite" because some will bail. As for hosting, smile, introduce and shake hands with guys you don't know, make them feel welcome, don't gravitate to your mates or the attractive people (women), bring in the outsiders. There's really nothing to it.
NTA but another useful thing is have something like ping-pong or a game console with something like smash or mario kart. Something that people can play and others can watch.
Obviously nobody wants to watch some autist play Dark Souls II but I've made plenty of friends just by joining in on Mario Kart and banting for a couple races.
I wouldn't have it at my party, on the basis that nobody wants to watch anybody else doing anything, but each to there own. I probably wouldn't go to that party either.
I'll take a Jack and Coke. Just need to vent real quick. This loneliness is fucking killer and it's hitting hard this weekend. All my friends are out of the country and I've been ghosted once again. I'm getting real tired of it, but what else is there to do besides keep moving on? Thanks for lending me your ear.
it took me a long time to get through that. all my friends and family have girlfriends and kids to do stuff with on the weekend and i'm sitting here alone. when im lonely everyone is busy, but no the other way around. A friend who only wanted to do stuff when and what he wanted to do texted me the other day. I didnt even respond, nor do i care too. everyone wanted to leave me all alone and now i don't need anyone people want to suddenly talk to me? Nah haha i'm alright thanks
I’ve decided I’m not going to fuck my mother in law. I know that I could if I wanted to, but I’m not going to. I was distant from my mother since adolescence as a result of an abusive father, which I think makes me crave the intimacy with my MIL now. If we’re alone together in a room, we’re touching in same way or another. And we’re frequently alone together. But I’ve decided im not going to do anything I don’t want known publicly. I can be physically intimate (I.e. long hugs) with her in a platonic way, just as a really close but normal MIL-SIL relationship.
Ex texted me. Feeling down. I want so bad to believe she’s worthwhile and that she’s stayed single since I left her, and to believe she’s texting me because she misses me and she loves me. But I don’t.
Don't give in anon. Part of me wishes my ex would text me but I know it's in my best interest for that not to happen. Stay strong brother
I know man. She added me on snap and I accepted it. Then over the last two days she’s unadded me, added me back, and so on. Today she seems to have stopped. I’m upset man. I had just gotten focused and felt over it and I had my head down trying to work on myself. Completely fell off my horse since she texted me. Smoked weed, fucked off diet, haven’t exercised, haven’t done shit but distract myself. Oh well, back to it tmrw. Idk why she thinks she can just hmu and never even address the issue that lead me leaving. I blame her family, they spoiled her rotten and she’s just entitled and has this can never do bad princess mindset.
I'm right there with you. I thought I was over my ex and then I saw her. I got butterflies and all these feelings I thought were dealt with came flooding back. But I told myself it didn't work out for a reason, I fucked up and she didn't want to try again. It's okay to take a day off and confront your feelings, don't bottle them up. Block her anon, it's hard but it'll be worth it not having her play games with you. You've got this anon, I believe in you
Thank you anon. Wagmi
I haven't passed a single practice test and my exam is on Tuesday. I've been studying since November and I feel so discouraged.
It might not do much, but I'll pray for you anon
thanks, friend. I want to be confident, but I'm losing faith
I'm really suspecting I might need meds but I don't want to do pills.
>able to get women horny for me and take them to bed
>years of porn abuse make it impossible to get it up
>still can't quit
at this point I'm actively ghosting women cause if that shit happens agains I might kms unironically tbh senpai
Rational Recovery by Jack Trimpey cured me. I recommend you read the entire book but I'll give you the QRD on AVRT:
1. Reject the disease model of addiction in favor of the structural model:
VERY ROUGHLY, your brain can be divided into the neocortex and the midbrain. The neocortex is you. It controls memory recall, voluntary motor actions, inhibitiion, concept of time, etc.
The midbrain is the lizard part of your brain. It controls appetites. It's what tells you that you're hungry and need to eat. Think about times you've been hungry but voluntarily delayed eating because you had something to do. That's an example of the neocortex triumphing over the midbrain.
Your midbrain thinks porn is necessary the way food is necessary. It's doing its job, just demanding the wrong thing. It has absolutely no concept of time or consequences.
2. Make the commitment to quit porn.
Having understood the structural model, decide, in your capacity as a rational agent, to quit porn and never indulge it again. This is your choice. But use the word never. "I will NEVER watch porn again, and I will NEVER change my mind."
3. Now understand that LITERALLY EVERY THOUGHT OR FEELING that you have which contradicts that commitment is just your midbrain whining. That whining is the addictive voice, the SOLE cause of your addiction.
Once you learn to isolate and otherize the addictive voice (VERY IMPORTANT: learn to rob it of its ability to use the pronoun "I" ("I want to watch porn" becomes "IT wants to watch porn") and DO NOT attempt to argue or reason with it. You may as well go find a dog licking its balls and give it a lecture on nofap.)
Simply quit, then apply AVRT. I highly recommend reading the entire book.
Found out my gf used to lift but stopped because college made it harder to work out.
I am now consumed with the prospect of getting her back into the gym and in shape.
Month 18 (at least) of tendinitis in my quad. Feel like I'm further away from making it than at any point in my life.
Any advice on how to heal ridiculously persistent overuse injuries?
I guess I'll have a chocolate milk, because a man needs his nutrients.
Keep using it at lower weight. That's the only way my shoulder got better after dealing with tendinitis for a year.
I've heard eccentrics are the move, problem is my shit's been hurting so much and for so long I'm afraid it's seriously degrading.
Do you think my white gf fucks her dog
I'll have a screwdriver please.
Today was my brother's birthday, but around October he was being a massive cunt and so I made a conscious decision to not allow him to be a part of my life anymore since I don't really have to. If he wasn't my brother I would have never been friends with him. He's on his way to getting a small house by year's end so he'll be gone and it'll be a lot easier to keep doing what I'm doing. Conversely he hasn't spoken to me at all either so if/when my parents ever try to confront me on it I've got that in my back pocket I guess. He made things a living hell in my formative years, to the point where I'm afraid of confrontation and making eye contact, can't really talk to women, and have this overwhelming lack of confidence under the hood that the gym just hasn't fixed. When I get in trouble at work I'm always fighting back tears even over the most miniscule shit. Parents have never done anything to reprimand him despite bullying me mentally, physically and especially emotionally nearly every day from around me being 4 up to about 15. No spankings, never took anything away from him, nothing. Just let him kick my ass for free. Therapist told me to try and talk through it with them, but nobody is willing to acknowledge anything they've done as wrong or they just deny it flat out. They tell me I'm being a crybaby, snowflake, etc etc. All I ever wanted was an apology, from any of them, and for somebody to mean it. My friends are calling me immature, giving me the "family is family" spiel, but I don't buy that crap. If nobody is willing to show me respect, I won't stick around for the disrespect.
But anyways, the birthday thing. Today was his, or I guess yesterday now. They didn't wait for me to be present to sing happy birthday and blow out the candles. I think they're finally getting it. And I didn't feel bad or guilty for not joining either. I'm really letting go. It's a mixed feeling.
Sorry for the blog. Just feeling a bit lost tonight.
Your family are cunts and it sounds like they traumatized you. The sad truth is they are most likely never going to apologize or even acknowledge that they did anything wrong. I've heard of people confronting their parents over sexual abuse and being mocked to their face the way redditors mock people who disagree with them.
Your brother destroyed your confidence. Importantly, he and your parents broke your ability to be healthily angry. It is possible to get it back. I can speak from experience that it will take work but you are genuinely capable of putting the pain behind you. Whether this means never speaking to your family again is your choice.
You absolutely deserved better than you got. You absolutely do not have to feel sorry for being mad at your brother for being a piece of shit.
I'm the guy who mentioned Pete Walker's CPTSD: From Surviving to Thriving earlier. I recommend that book, it has techniques not just for addressing the fact that you were traumatized, but for processing the anger you weren't allowed to feel and dealing with "emotional flashbacks" such as when your boss gets mad at you and your brain remembers your brother tormenting you. Walker's parents beat the shit out of him and gaslit him for his whole childhood, he's written from experience.
One exercise I recommend is what he called "time machine rescue operation". I literally imagine getting in a time machine and going back to a moment when I was being abused. Then, while beating the shit out of a couch cushion in real life, I imagine beating the shit out of the person who abused me and telling them off. Then most importantly, once they're down for the count and bleeding, I turn to past me, hug him, and comfort him the way I needed to be comforted back then, and impart some lessons that I should have learned back then. It may sound autistic but it's remarkable how it can help your confidence by reminding you that you've got a IST adult body now and can fight back.
NTA but based post and I gotta try that pillow punching exercise. I have a few memories of vivid moments like that, where I was bullied when I was a weak skinny kid, 25 years later. That shit made me an introvert.
Glad I could help.
I hit the character limit but I should also mention a huge revelation from that book:
your ability to be healthily angry is deeply linked to your ability to self-motivate. Many traumatized people lose their ability to envision an optimistic future. or, if they can still do that, lose their ability to commit to plans to bring an optimistic future about. Many trauma survivors thus become directionless and stagnant.
Pete Walker describes "grieving" and "angering". Mourn for the innocence and opportunities lost, rage against the injustice that those losses occurred at all.
In his other book, "The Tao of Fully Feeling", he discusses how both are necessary to heal: rage without grieving makes you an angry person who never finds relief because his pain is never actually resolved, and grief without rage makes you a defeated person who stays mired (in the bad sense of the word).
Rum, leave the bottle. And a gallon of water.
I made decent progress early last year and got interrupted by changing careers and moving, but kept the gains due to the new job being mostly physical (union construction, industrial scale projects). Problem is, I had a pretty bad mental breakdown after hearing good news from an ex I'm on good terms with, ended up with me landing in legit therapy. Six months of sessions and dissecting an assload of childhood trauma later, and it seems at the very least what I should have been leaning into since I was in highschool is the lean femboy body I had up until I became a depressed skinnyfat fuck in college (who I've been trying to purge for the past few years, mostly successfully.) Not a fag, not a chud, but severe body dysphoria at the least. Now I can either continue on the path of getting into great stereotypical male shape, despite my mind screaming at me something's wrong, or start the process of tearing it all down and rebuilding it the way I should have over a decade ago. Thankfully I've kept the fat off mostly so I don't have to cut for too much time.
This post made me realize how linked the therapy industry is with the rise of LGBT. I wonder if there is any research on how correlated they are.
The LGB population isn't growing you schizo. The T population is.
I got one of the good ones that's not pushing any of that shit, not even garden variety pharma, they got to the nitty gritty of it being a very large disconnect with who I remember being and who I am currently. While I can't go back and change any of the events, a possibility for alleviating a lot of this disconnect would be to change workout focus to build an extrapolation of what I looked like back then. Ultimately its my choice, and I have to figure out if I'm ok with pressing F6 on this body.
I was on a online speed dating show and got rejected rather fast, what did I do wrong? (I'm at 1:06:15)
Why would you call in to talk to two bitchy sheeboons? Oh wait you're a moron. At least you correctly called out her tombstone sized teeth.
Busted my back again, seems to happen every year once I start getting to squat PRs. Just a bulging disc, they take 2-4 days to heal, but they set my numbers back a lot. How the fuck do I avoid bulging discs? Every time it happens I'm forced to make a concession. No more deadlifts, no going above 225lbs squat without a belt, stopping if I even feel any sort of pain. But this time it just fucking happened. I felt strong, was having no trouble with the set, zero pain, and POP goes the spinal tissue. Idk what to do at this point other than give up squats. Does stretching to the point of being a contortionist help? Should I invest in a super stiff belt? Mine is nylon and not that stiff.
i was binge drinking withe boys all weekend OP. if i have another drink i don’t know what will happen. got 2 girl’s numbers without even trying though
I got drunk yesterday and when I got home I was full of rage. Ended up punching the shit out of my arm in a retarded rampage. There’s a massive bruise on my bicep. How could I casually explain it away to my coworkers when I’m wearing short sleeves this week?
Just tell them some lunatic attacked you on the weekend when you went out drinking. No need to lie
talking to a girl i havent spoken to in 8 months, she posted an insta story of her and messaged her and now shes sending me paragraphs of text. good feels man.
still can't get over the fact that youtube banned my 350 subs channel with my tf2 spy frag vids with like 1k views each
sucks man, i made a new one and reuploaded some of my vids but the most one got is 250
other than that, been hitting pull ups a lot lately because i want to be able to do a muscle up
went from barely being able to do 4 to doing 4 in clean, good form reps
i bet if i went from 70kg to 60kg i'd be able to do 8 or something now, back when i was 60kg i remember my record being 6 or 7
this girl i went to 2 dates on is now my supervisor. she got transferred here and i had no clue she even worked for the same company. she won’t look me in the eyes and is incredibly awkward, avoiding me when she can. meanwhile she was the one to play me and tried to string me along. atleast it’s better than her being a giant bitch i guess
If you play your cards right, she’ll sit on your face in her office
>still live at home with parents despite working because Europoor
>both parents smoke,spending around 100/200€ a month on cigs
>it's the 20th and my mother says she's ran out of money kek
>mother asks me for 50€
>"50?!" I reply?
>"your such a cheapskate"
My main goal is to buy a house, even if it takes me 10years to save up. I won't be inheriting anything anytime soon(aside from the house we currently live in which was my grandparents,(split with my sister.)
Not gonna let these bros leech of me to compromise my future
Good luck dude.
At 28 you should at least cover your bills and food, you fucking leech piece of shit europoor gay. Your parents were probably a lot younger than that when they unfortunately spawned you out but you didn't hear them complaining about having to bring up an ungrateful little gay such as yourself.
part of me agrees with you, but I live very frugally and save most of my money so I can improve my situation and be finally independent. My parents don't understand this because they had it easy,were given a house and jobs.They don't sacrifice and don't understand such a concept. Stop smoking ciggies if you want my help. I had to endure that dog shit throughout my life even though I had asma and we were poor. They kept smoking.
I'm now paying 10K for dental because I should've used braces as a kid and ended up losing a few teeth because my mother took me to this handy "dentist" who didn't charge anything but ended up removing my teeth. For many Xmas I saw my cousins open their presents and me and my sister had nothing. Not even a chocolate bar. I would've appreciated a gesture. But to give your children nothing is insane to me. and this bro purchased power tools and lawnmowers as a hobby. Fuck you.Yeah I'm stingy with my money, because when I was a teen and my gf asked me to go spend the weekend with her I had to tell her no because I didn't have 40€.
I'm not too inclined to sacrifice part of my future for people who honestly didn't sacrifice their life for me.
sorry for the rant anon, it's not @ you.
I would move out/ away. To be honest. You might be saving money, but I can't imagine hanging out with these people is doing anything for your mental health.
kys chud freak, seriously.
stop playing nintendo switch games and get a job, yo humongous gay. Your parents want to see you out of the house.
>Also when I get there and I’m moved out, do you have advice for being a full time student while working full time?
I think it's doable but very hard, depends on what you study and what grades you want. But you won't have much of a social life in that period, which is ok if it sets you on the right track career wise.
>boohoo I have asthma stop smoking!
kys and reroll better genes. Preferably together with the chud freak I quoted above. subhuman europoor
Hey I’m nta but could you offer some advice? I’m 27 I’ve never left the nest. I can write paragraphs making excuses and explaining why that is but it’s neither here nor there, I’m trying to change it right now. I have a plan in mind to better my life. It starts with me grabbing any job I can get and either switching to a better paying job or saving and then moving out.
Here’s where I need advice. I’ve run my budget a hundred times over and worked it out, I’ve been looking at rents near me, and I discovered I can be fully independent on as little as $15/hr with full time hours. It will not be comfortable by any means, financially, but its doable.
I’m having trouble getting hired even at a fucking retail job. I genuinely don’t know what to do, I’ve been applying to jobs daily for months and no one gets back to me.
What do I do??
Should I lie on my resume, land a job, then use that job as real more recent experience? I have had jobs but I’ve been unemployed for over a year.
Simply put, I need to move out. It’s not fair to my parents, it’s not fair to myself. I hate not being 100% self sufficient it makes me feel like a child.
My last job was like 1.5 years during Covid where I didn’t have a single day off. I was on my way to moving out and then got in a car wreck and the aftermath bled my savings dry.
Also when I get there and I’m moved out, do you have advice for being a full time student while working full time?
If you can afford a cheap ass car that has passed techical inspection, go for one.
Get an insurance on it and just deliver food, companies like doordash are pretty much always hiring. Whilst the hourly rate isn't all that good, it's very time flexible and the hours you work aren't limited so you can actually make decent bux.
Start out at home maybe and work your way up by saving money and be on the lookout for suitable jobs and apartments to rent. Keep at it and ygmi.
I have a pretty good used car already, and I’ve considered doing that as a starting point. But everyone I’ve mentioned the idea to dissuades me heavily. Friends and family. Too much ware and tear on my car, and I fucking hate driving anyways.
I’ve also read that the pay simply doesn’t justify it. I could see myself doing it for 10-15 hours a week in my free time once I’m moved out just to supplement my pay a bit for when I’m in classes should I ever need to take days off for finals so I have that money saved. But I’m really unsure if it’s worth doing at all.
I’ve seen shit claiming $7 is the average across most apps, with about 2-3 orders per hour. Which is ass IMHO.
Then there’s gas. My car is fuel efficient which helps, but all that driving might only serve to cover my gas expenses every week.
>Not gonna let these bros leech of me to compromise my future
>Nearly 30 and still living in mommies basement while spending 200 a month on fags
Bros should i just get back with my ex gf?
I broke up with her around Oct 22 because she had some major redflags, time have passed and i went on one date only since then and nothing really happened with the other girl.
Fast forward to today it's been like what, 7 months? and still haven't managed to get a new gf. I had some girls that gave me the green light but my standards got up for some reason.
So my ex gf, is literally begging me to get back with her but im feeling im running out of time that she will find someone new. She is my only option and i realized i loved her a lot.
>and i realized i loved her a lot.
well, then do it
you can fix her, right?
>you can fix her, right?
Of course, it's just been a lot of months and i miss what we had, the fact that she wants me tho is the only thing that wants me to get back
>Do you love her, or the idea of her
A combination for both i guess, when i talk to new chicks i don't find them as interesting although they are fuckable. She accepted me as i was, i live in a shitty aparment and she never said anything. It was just that she had a lot of male friends and kept contact with her beta ex (they didn't fuck ofc) but some of this things made me gtfo back then but i thought i would easily replace her but i was wrong. you think is the lack of options that are fucking me up?
Lack of options and rose tinted glasses are not helping you at all. However, that doesn't mean you don't actually love her. You just need to take into account what sucked before and if you're willing to work through that. I'm a hopeless romantic anon and I love a good romance tragedy. Do I think it's a dumb idea to get back with your ex? Yes, but I think it would be an even dumber idea not to listen to your heart. Go for it brother and take things slow, start off trying to woo her all over again. This time remember how easily things can end so that you never take the time spent with her for granted, that's my biggest regret and the one mistake I want others to learn from.
You're retarded anon. Why would it work this time? Do you love her, or the idea of her? It's your life so go for it and see what happens. Remember all the things you wish you would've done and do them now. It'll either work out or it won't, only one way to find out.
A Moscow Mule for me please.
How do you anons get over someone who was emotionally and emotionally abusive to you? No matter how bad things were at the time and how bad she was to me, she is still the only thing I want in the world.
i have been dealing with a shoulder surgery i sustained a year ago. it still gives me discomfort and the surgery possibly damaged my nerves. ive been going on and off to physical therapy which has been progressing very slowly/plateaud and they just kinda kicked me out.. even when running it still gives me discomfort, and ive been using running so much as stress relieve as opposed to more self destructive methods like drinking and vidya, but i have done this up to the point ive been developing shin splints. cycling has been a hobby i rediscovered but my affected arm just goes numb after 1 hour. how can i stay fit with these things holding me back? practically every load bearing activity just hurts me and sucks the joy out of it.. ive been holding myself busy with self study college credits (CLEP) but i want to get into some kind of physical shape again. maybe i should pick up surfing for the summer???? thx for reading my blogpost :I
I have very clear goals in life
1) Get as physically strong as I can possibly get
2) Have a job in something I am good and interested in (I am close to this but there are some obstacles)
3) Have a lovely wife and children
4) A good house of my own
Now the first two, especially the first feel easy for me because it feels like everything I put into myself, I get a good equal result out of it. But the last two are so difficult. My country is becoming an overpopulated staglated brown shithole with a retarded housing market. A lot of good women are already taken, and the ones who are single are not. How can I find a way to motivate myself to work so I can still achieve the latter two things?
Try not to have externally dependent goals. Your first 2 goals are easily because you are 100% in control. For the third goal, you can do everything right, but it requires other people to actualize. Instead set a goal of “meet like-minded women” or something like that and go from there.
Went blading had a blast my town had garage sale day didn't get anything expect for this song stuck in my head :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ7E40Ec
Little kid pointed and and said look what he can do and then pointed saying look to a friend the second time I passed being a example of the /fit lifestyle kids get exited about wasn't something I expected to happen when I strapped those things to my feat again after 20 years byt it feels great
I've been getting in great shape lately and really taking care of myself. I'd probably rate as slightly above average in attractiveness. I am so goddamn lonely. I haven't even spoken to a girl in about a year, except minor interactions like with a cashier, barista, or waitress.
Yesterday I was sitting at a cafe near my place on the deck, which is pretty large, just listening to music and drinking coffee. I spotted a gorgeous redhead walk by and go in. I pretty much stared and checked her out because I don't care anymore. But she actually came and sat right beside me after getting her drink, despite there being lots of other places to sit. I could feel her glancing at me every now and then, but I just kept my headphones on and drank my coffee, watching people go by.
I think it's all in my head because whenever women do this, and I think they are giving me 'signals', they end up rejecting me pretty harshly if I do try to speak to them or ask them out. In any case, my asocialization has gotten so bad that I would have had no idea what to say to her or how to keep a conversation going. I'm just glad I started working again so I can go to an escort.
Bruh, today I woke up thinking
>How many days am I gonna wake up struggling to make ends meet, working the same dead end job, and watching as my beautiful co-worker moves on with her life while I'm left alone.
It's like I'm slowly being buried, but I feel like I can get out if I get off my ass and move.
Mexican cola w/ key of lime pls
Life’s been better since I’ve cut off a few toxic church friends which gave me burn out from there, the church has a strong community but it wasn’t for me anymore.
Been actively lifting more and getting way better physically.
I’ve attempted to have a chat with this girl but she may be an autist as well, no progress
I've not gone to the gym in about a year and not sure I ever will again. I started at 17 and kept going consistently until about 25. Then last year when I realised, after almost a decade, my numbers were still dog shit, I still had no gf, and I didn't look that good. All my fault probably because of bad programming / diet.
Now it's difficult to find the motivation. How can I spend hours working out every week when I get nothing out of it? My only remaining motivation really is to keep myself from being totally weak and just to fill the time. Anyone been through this?
Which program did you do and how was your diet, anon?
Also, did you get your T levels checked?
I'll have your finest orange juice blended with prawns.
>Go to faggy art meet
>there's some women there that I speak most to
>the main one being a bit of a airheaded soft spoke woman.
>The other I get along with really well, but she's engaged and draws erotic photos for money
>with airheaded chick, there's been a history of me being forward with getting along with her most in the group.
>A few weeks back, she told me she wouldn't pay $300 to sleep with me during a chat we had about prostitution.
>We're generally really touchy
>it's almost we don't have boundaries in a way
>Today she asked me to do her lip outline makeup
>I had my hand on the back of her head and my hand on her cheek while applying her lip pencilling
>I had her lips point blank that close to mine
>Her skin was really soft
I miss female contact so much.
I wanted to kiss her really fuckin bad, dudes.
I'm so sigma and redpilled that if a girl asked me to apply make up I would tell her" make up is a blatant lie, I don't think women should wear it at all, so no, I'm not going to help you hide your true face."
That's not sigma behaviour, that's simp behaviour. You should tell her "I'm happy to help, you really need it!".
This would give her the ick, you'd forever be a beta orbiter in her eyes
this would maybe get you laid if she laughed it off and didn't have a meltdown
Yeah it's crazy but that's just how women work.
>Woman says she wouldn't fuck you for money
>You do her makeup for her
Hail to the king of simps
Might have genital herpes boys. Going to get tested tomorrow. On top some other shit going on right now this kind of sucks.
>20 years ago dad got drunk and put his hands around my sisters neck, she had bad bruises
>never saw him after that, or his side of the family
>suffered a lot of challenges growing up with a poor single mother
>NEET of 5 years
>somehow turned it all around and have a respectable job and I'm succeeding, even had sex
>try to reach out to my favorite Aunt on his side on FB, she sent me letters when I was a kid but I was a shitty little kid of course I'm not gonna write a fucking letter back but I feel bad about that
>reached out to my dad too
>imagining all the things I never got to do that we can now; fishing on my dads little boat drinking beers talking about life and catching up, getting back on dirt bikes and riding, visiting my super rich Aunt in Annapolis and having dinner parties, and just making them proud of me
>....they both block me
I swear I don't want anything... I just want a normal family to love me ffs.
Sorry you're going through such a shitty situation anon, it hurts me when people have bad relationships with their family. I didn't have the best family life growing up, I even hated my parents a lot of the time. I might not have any good advice, but perhaps you can try being the man you needed/wanted that you never had as a child. That way the world can be a little better for the people around you. I hope you feel better soon
>realized I projected my own insecurities on the woman I had been getting to know over the course of 5 weeks earlier this year
She told me I make her feel safe, she has enjoyed getting to know me, but she was dealing with personal stuff and felt now wasn't the right time for a relationship, so she'd like to be friends. I became convinced this was code for "I don't find you attractive to commit", didn't respond to her last message, got on a dating app, met another woman who is clearly into me, we have sex and she is nice enough, but now I don't want anything serious with her because I think I could do better. I feel like I have to do better because wtf am I lifting and doing all this shit for to end up with an overweight gf. I know it's not a healthy mindset, but that is where I'm at now
tbh you were probably right about the first girl. that’s not necessarily insecurity, just awareness
i'm turning 36 soon, and even tho i'm at the peak of my fitness, success, and all the other shit, feels like my dating pool is super small and getting smaller by the day.
i had a great run from my late 20s to early 30s, massive success with women. then i got in a couple of long term relationships which ended and now here i am, single and about to turn 36. who the fuck am i supposed to date?
most women in their early to mid 20s don't want to date a guy who is 36. yes some of them will, but they usually have issues. not to mention that most people meet on apps nowadays, especially younger people, and 36 rarely passes the age filter.
women in their late 20s are ok, but most of the good ones are already taken by then. if they happen to be single and valuable, then they're desperately trying to beat the clock, and all they see in you is a ring and a baby. feels like you're just a tool in their eyes.
women over 30 who are still single either look like shit or have something very wrong with them. either way they carry a lot of baggage by then.
i had a gf who was a decade younger than me until a few months ago, we were together for over 2 years and she loved the fuck outta me, and she was great in many ways, but she drove me INSANE because she was so damn clingy and emotional, it got completely exhausting to deal with her and my life became hell. but now i'm thinking i may have fucked up, and that was my last chance to find someone good.
it fucking sucks bro. i'm a handsome dude, i lift hard, i regularly go out with my buddies (few who are still single) and try to mingle, i work hard and make a fuck load of money, yet it seems like starting a family gets further and further away from me. my worst nightmare is settling for someone i'm not attracted to or don't respect just so that i can get it over with, then spend the rest of my life wondering what could have been.
>women over 30 who are still single either look like shit or have something very wrong with them. either way they carry a lot of baggage by then.
yes, and you the single 36 year old definitely dont
wow no shit
>be top 5% of men
>be single for just a few months
>it must be literally over
Just date someone under 20 dumbass
Had a busy week and was forced to skip one gym day and a run due to time constraints. Have 3 interviews lined up next week. Gonna start cutting a bit more again, wanna lose st least 25 pounds until October as a gift to myself this year. Spent today discgolfing with bros for 3 hours and had a nice swim and chill afterwards.
I have high hopes and good vibes for once again. Gonna try and make every day count next week.
When you eat dirt for so long you kind of forget how good it feels to just be able to work on whats important. Make the best of your life, anons. Every day counts.
Idk what the appropriate description of how I feel is but I guess it’s flat or dull. I still have my motivation, yet I also feel a little demoralized. I was doing great, quit weed, eating helathy, exercising daily. Then the ex texted and I got high two days in a row, fucked off diet today and yesterday.
And now I guess I just feel like I’ve made no real progress and I’m stuck in the same spot, with a rough idea of what I need to do, but not really knowing what I even want out of life.
The only thing I can think of as some form of motivation is getting my own place so I can get a dog. But I can’t help but feeling once I get there, after maybe a year or two I’ll be feeling crappy again wondering “what’s the point of it all?”
And I genuinely don’t know how to fix that. Yeah I guess I’m depressed and I finally gave therapy a chance, while it’s helping a bit mostly for accountability purposes, he doesn’t really do much in the way of how to manage or fix this. I realize I can’t feel happy all of the time, but I shouldn’t feel “what’s even the point” this much of the time… I guess if I had a dog the point would be busting my ass to care for it in return for the love and companionship it gives me.
Block your ex fool
A raspberry & strawberry tea, bartender, cheers.
I can't sleep long enough lately. For the past couple of weeks I woke up at 7am unable to sleep anymore leaving me tired for the whole day. It's been a stressfull period - moving away from living my long time friend (6yrs, housemates since uni) and instead getting a place with my gf of two years. She had doubts about us moving too quickly, wanted to cut it off, I snapped and almost broke up with her from the sadness, eventually she came around and is excited about it. Only concern is that it's a long term rental (3 years). Work hasn't helped either, was on morning support (full week of starting at 7:30) which has really made my sleeping issues worse. I've been stressed about finding a nice place, stressed about whether I'm making the right choice in advancing the relationship in such a big way, stressed about my job and what would happen if I got fired now that I am signing into a 3yr rental contract, stressed about my lack of sleep.
We are moving in at the end of June. I just want this god damn remaining month to end, to see myself in the new place with everything taken care of.
I feel like I have a brain inside my brain that makes me retarded sometimes to save my own life
>dated girl for a couple months
>we'd have nice normal days
>see a bunch of messages on my phone from her
>"you really hurt me today"
>"you injured me really badly, I'm in so much pain"
>was always confused and checked in and she'd just say it was my tone or attitude or dismissal or something
>was recently reading through our texts after a breakup and the stuff she sent made me seem abusive, I wonder if she was trying to create a record of some kind of alleged beating or something?
>it also seemed like she'd be trying to provoke some kind of reaction that would confirm everything, but I'd usually be pathetic enough just to check in and tell her to use her words properly
>maybe she wanted money? My family is wealthy and she has student loans
closest I've ever dodged a bullet
I dated a girl that did what you suggested your ex may have been after, but she went about it differently. Classic BPD girl. She would start fights and arguments via text and just be a bitch until I lost patience and snapped at her, then she’d go and send those texts to mutual friends, to her own friends, and to some of my friends claiming I was abusive and shit. Some of these people bought into it. Idk the purpose of her telling her own friends this, but she got sympathy from her own friends who hated me and wanted her to leave me too.
If I was hanging out with my friends for a change once in a blue moon rather than giving my free time to be with her, she would start these fights and do this or threaten suicide and shit.
The bitch drove me nuts, and after I snapped and left her she went on to post fake “abuse survivor” stories and try to slander me on social media.
I had to unleash my autism to its fullest extent to quiet her. Basically ruined her life by sending her a simple “Im sorry we didn’t work out and how things went, I’ve been trying really hard to grow and be better and I wanted to reach out to lyk I wish you the best in life.” After that she responded exactly how I predicted, cheated on her new man, and I sent him the proof and he dumped her. She went off the rails shaved her head and has gone into isolation blocked me everywhere, and deleted her social media afaik. Then I found her new address, made Craigslist posting under her name number and same zip code, something she knows only I would do as a prank or harassment. I made it so she’s legitimately afraid of me and wants to stay far away. Turning the other cheek didn’t work, while with her and after leaving her, she just tried to slander me for years claiming I was racist and abusive, so I went for the throat and showed her what I’m capable of doing. It sounds autistic but I made this girl believe I’m a stand user who can manipulate reality or something (which I am).
I've always been wondering why not most guys go scorched earth when women try to ruin their life. Should be pretty easy, like you showed, for most anons here to channel their autism and make these women afraid of ever interacting with you
I mean I think for most guys it’s genuinely not worth it. I acted out of fear. It wasn’t enough for this hoe to spread lies about me and turn people who I thought were great and true friends against me, all while she was the one emotionally, verbally, and at times physically abusing me, she just had to virtue signal and shit at my expense. I realized years after leaving her she was still doing this at the peak of cancel culture, and I was genuinely afraid.
I even still wish she could have not done that so I could be her friend today. I’m over the bullshit that happened between us and she sucks a great dick.
In fact the only reason I did it was that I was previously pursuing a career in a field where that shit would have prevented me working.
Gonna get in trouble tomorrow at work cause some equipment I was using last week stopped working and it still isn't repaired. So I am gonna be stuck doing nothing all day most likely. Shit sucks cause I cant do anything about it now so I just hope its not too brutal
>coworker i'm into friendzones me
>decide to pursue other girls in and outside of my job and stop making time for her
>she suddenly starts showering me with more attention than ever before and starts texting me again (although i never respond)
i fucking hate this bitch so much its unreal
But if advice, pretend she no longer exists. Don’t reply to her texts. Don’t give her the time of day. You either lose nothing, or if you or her leaves this job, you can then begin giving her one word responses and eventually fuck her. Investment pussy is always nice, and easier/lower effort. What this does, from what I’ve seen doing this myself, is it destroys her ego the more you reject her. When you begin bread crumbing one or two word responses after some time, it justifies the investment she’s made by continually trying to text you or give you attention despite you cold shouldering her, until finally she’s so deep in this that you giving in and agreeing to hang out feels like a win to her.
Don’t do this if you don’t care for pointless hookups though.
once one of us leaves the job i really don't want anything to do with her. hooking up would only make me hate her even more than i already do
from her actions i think it's pretty clear she viewed our relationship as nothing more than a friendship. plus she would sometimes refer herself as my friend
Then this is really simple, you lost nothing. Why should you hate someone who’s brought you no value or taken value from your life? She doesn’t matter dude.
Was she supposed to call you her BF without you even asking her to be your GF?
Friend zoned or did you fail the game of her playing hard to get?
Don't give in, anon.
Keep it casual at work, but stonewall her on your phone.
If she brings it up at work, just imply she's being a stalker in front of others, she'll knock it off.
Sounds like she was using you for free attention and validation, and now that you turned it off she's trying to restart it. Don't get hooked in though
>hating her (you are here)
>she tries to get onto your radar
>you think about her more (still hate)
>you want to reject her right back and may even think about how you'd word it for max damage
>she turns it off again and you realise you were hoping she was into you this time so you could reject her
>she blanks you at work
>now you want her attention, but you don't get it
>this feeling dies down and you go on just hating her
>IST, decently attractive
>too autistic to cold approach chicks
>stem major full of guys
>go to huge gym where nobody ever interacts with others
>once in a while I meet a chick at parties or clubs but shit always fizzles out because making out/fucking while shitfaced is not really a good way to start dating
>have 0 good photos and am extremely unphotogenic so online dating doesn't seem viable to meet a decent woman
What do I do here? I don't really have the money or time to join random clubs. Literally the only place I can imagine talking to a chick is at my climbing gym, but the cute ones always either show up with boyfriends or are in groups
If you’re in uni for STEM, honestly just wait until you graduate and get a career going to find your wife
have a nice day. fucking disgusting sex haver
i have not slept since wednesday. i lay in bed all night long with my eyes closed and i cannot fall asleep. i think i might be getting some micro sleeps during that time but nothing deep, i cant do anything like this. constant brain fog is like being like a zombie. ive tried melatonin, zzquil, cbd, none of it works
I am blocking off IST's /s/, /gif/ and all the other porn sites today. I've been struggling with keeping hard and it has affected my relationship. My gf is very understanding but she fears it's because I don't find her attractive anymore which is not the case, it's just my stupid lizard braing that's become addicted to girls that are not there in the real world.
>Used dating apps a few years ago, no problem getting matches then, even though I only had one pic of myself.
>Reinstall last week.
>Nothing, none. Despite total weight the same (more muscle though), and now having a fancy sounding job title instead of being a student.
Digged around and apparently if you're on a VPN when registerong you get handed a shadowban. And if you're shadow banned your account will "fail to delete, try again later".
Still hate dating apps for the same reason I stopped using them, souless places where you ghost and get ghosted without feeling a thing.
Only came crawling back cause "hang at parties and hope you click with someone else attentind" feels like I'm not doing enough actively, and I don't go to parties often enough for it to be reliable.
Relationship annons, how did you meet them? I've grown tired of not taking action.
No clue, however I'm back on dating apps and it's noticeably rougher using them now compared to a couple years ago. My profile is objectively better and so are my pictures and yet I get ghosted pretty often. I don't have a good enough social life so I'm kind of screwed unless life throws a chick my way randomly like it's a fucking romcom.
Delete them. You will only find needy cunts and desperate women. The rest are whores with a laundry list od requirements.
I can't believe I have a gym crush after years of laughing and dissing anons on IST.
The sad thing is that I never had contact with her, so my """love""" for her is platonic as fuck, but she his the first girl that made me feel this. Love is a weird ass thing. I was never in love in my life.
Take your shot or live in regret.
I officially started dating my friend who I’ve had a crush on for 4 years now. Asked her yesterday about how she felt with us seeing each other recently and she said “I don’t wanna talk to anyone else”
She’s my first gf.
We’re all going to make it my friends.
Am going to flunk out of uni the 2nd semester for several reasons.
Poorfag because of years of vidya+neet and working a shitty food delivery job at 27 fucking yrs old.
Business administration certification feels literally like toilet paper because I have a very scarce CV.
5'8 but at least like a 6.5/10 builtfat body and could catch plenty of pussy if I had any reason to have confidence in myself.
Funny thing is that whilst I acknowledge that I'm trash, I still feel entitled for a work that doesn't completely leech away at the little that is left of my soul.
Can't or won't commit to anything because I feel like I lack the perseverance to see it through...
Doc is pushing anti-depressants on me but aside lacking the balls for that, I really don't think my misery just boils down to brain chemistry.
Just feel so fucking empty and lost.
It feels like all that's missing rn, is money, and lots of it - the only possible vehicle to acquiring it would ironically be business but I lack any kind of drive to make shit happen.
Sorry for this dose of schizodoomerism.
I felt like cancelling the post but I still hold some hope that somebody can provide a kick in the ass to restart my thinking, because whilst meditating on my shitty life is what I'm supposed to be doing, I don't really come up with anything smart by myself...
I'd like to get out of my head and work my way out instead of trying to think my way out of this mess.
So I guess the question is - what would you guys devote yourselves to in my situation?
Anon few things. I’m your age and I’m trying to unfuck my life with similar feelings but I’m just plain neet not working not in school. I plan to be soon. And I know I can easily fuck my grades up if I don’t get everything right.
First, if you smoke weed, quit. Maybe save it for after finals.
Second, consider stopping vidya. Find more productive hobbies. Invest in a cheap fishing set up and learn to fish. Even if you suck and catch nothing, it will be good for your mental health to be outside in the sun chilling in nature.
Try to make it a point to sit in the sun for 10 minutes every morning if you can.
If you drink coffee or use caffeine, wean down try to quit. But most importantly wait 1 hour after waking to have any. This reduces the crash.
And this is what I’ve recognized I need to get in order to pull it off, but try to get a remote WFH job. I’m too bent out of shape and mentally fried to do anything after most normal types of jobs, the commute to and from are probably the worst part of it and I cannot imagine driving around for 8 hours because I personally hate to drive just because of how traffic in my area is. Even if it would suck sitting down at your desk taking calls from asswipes all day who feel comfortable being a sick over the phone, at least you’re in your house and can grab food or hit the bathroom or stretch your legs whenever you want.
I want a WFH job because it’s the only possible way I’ll be able to go back to school. Both because I’ll have 3 whole hours built into my day saved from not having to drive, and also because I know I’ll always have time on the clock to chip away at assignments or review flash cards.
The pay is either gonna be the same or better than your delivery job.
That being said I’ve had no luck getting even an interview for one. I heard CVS has great WFH opportunities.
Do you live on your own or at home with parents? I could use advice on how to get moved out if you don’t mind
I ran out of room, but consider starting your own business. Even an online shop, Amazon even. Worst case, you lose maybe $500 investment. Best case, it supplements your monthly earnings by anything at all either a couple thousand or just a couple hundred.
If it works at all, I’m sure you can add it to your resume for a business job.
Another thing is if you can get hired in a startup, that's the holy grail. Get in as one of the very first employees, you can then use that experience and fluff your role a bit to claim a lot of its success was due to you.
I understand this feeling well. All I can say is try to think about what’s on the other side and why that’s important whether it’s happiness or you think it will get you laid or what. I’m at a spot nothing brings me joy like it used to when I was younger. I have to drive myself with the reward on the other side of things.
This is also where my recommendation to quit vidya comes into play. I swear it saps some of us of all drive and motivation and makes it hard to commit to goals. Because why would one work hard IRL when they can level up their Nord and max out it’s stats and be the strongest being in Skyrim? I know that sounds like some faggy reddit tier sentence but it’s true.
I recently matched with a girl and we've been on three dates so far. Can't wait to see her again next week. Life is fucking good, bros.
Happy for you anon. I hope you both bring each other great joy
I haven't spoken to another human being in a year. I've never had a real friend and I really struggle to understand why. I always meet people who just want to "use me" as a friend. We'll spend hours talking about their life, I'll ask questions, let them vent, give advice... but they have zero interest in me or anything I care about. Zero repricocity. It just feels like the entire world hates me. Men don't want to be friends with me, women won't give me a chance no matter how fit I am. Short, balding, tiny dicked loser. If MAD were an option, at this point I'd take it. Started fitness coping 5 years ago at 19, and it's just not enough.
Am I justified in being annoyed and mad over this?
>recent gf lives a state away, visit her often
>rent air bnb make plans
>has to drive her mom to and from work, puts dent in my plans so we just end up fucking (not complaining) then she bitches I’m not taking her to do anything
>she isn’t able to give me exact times of her moms work because I guess the lady gets her schedule per day (sketchy)
>also can’t stay the night at the place I rented because her parents are strict (she’s 24)
>make rigid plans, tell her the times and everything
>next day she lets me know when she has to drop her mom off early, that time rolls around and she takes triple the time she did all previous days, texts me a heads up, finally arrives, places I wanted to go to closed by now
So I kicked her out and chose to watch anime and jack off and fish from the dock instead. I was annoyed and it was already upsetting she wasn’t spending the nights and that she had to drop everything to drive her mom and it seemed like she was playing with my time. I tried to be understanding at first but on that last one she ended up confirming she was just fucking around and blowing time after she dropped her mom off. Otherwise I wouldn’t care if she’s just helping her family and being responsible, because you can’t really be too upset about that. We ended up breaking up later on but this has stuck in my head.
With a different ex from almost a decade ago when I was 20:
>go on vacation with mom, sister, gf
>while at beach some mid 30s father with a beer gut is with his wife and kid
>not an ugly dude but just looks like an average guy who was maybe once in shape in college and now is fat
>mom and sister check him out say he has a dad bod
>Gf joins them in miring him
>mom and sister don’t even bat an eye to my gf checking another man out and expressing attraction verbally in front of my face
>genuinely feel mad at all 3 of them
>spend day in foul mood
Was I wrong? I felt betrayed.
>ended up confirming she was just fucking around and blowing time after she dropped her mom off.
Doing what exactly? And why?
>mom and sister don’t even bat an eye to my gf checking another man out and expressing attraction verbally in front of my face
Just mire some bitch infront of her verbally so she can get a taste of her own medicine.
>doing what exactly and why?
She said she went home showered and that was it. Her house and moms work were both around the corner, 15 minutes away at most. It doesn’t explain the other 2.5 hours. Her vocal tonality was like this forced nonchalantness. I don’t think she was seeing another dude same day she saw me, but it basically confirmed she was just wasting time. I only cared because she was upset we weren’t doing anything which made me feel bad and I tried, I did my part.
>more bitch in front of her
Dude it’s 3 women. The way my mom was she’d have called me a pig. That whole “women are never wrong and idc if she’s stabbing you you can’t even call a woman a bitch” attitude. The way that psycho ex was she’d have thrown a fit. In fact later after that happened I did check out another girl in front of her (accidental male gaze just registering a fat ass) and it was the end of the world and I was a monster.
Yeah it’s the past but I was made to feel childish about feeling how I did about it. I’m actually not even comfortable around my own mother anymore and left to live with my dad a couple years after that.
yea then she was in the wrong and you were justified.
>n fact later after that happened I did check out another girl in front of her (accidental male gaze just registering a fat ass) and it was the end of the world and I was a monster.
Fuck em. Whats good for the goose is good for the hen.
First one your definitely justified, she’s wasting your time and money because of horrible communication skills. Just ask her straight up why she’s acting the way she’s acting and if she can’t explain it then drop her.
Second one you definitely sound like a moron. If you look better than that guy then why would you even care and if it bothers you that much just start talking about any hot girl that catches your eye and that would’ve shut them up right away.
You seem like a pretty sensitive soul anon, I can see your pov on both of these.
The first one, I dunno it sounds like you made the right choice overall. It was hardly an ideal scenario and if she wasn't doing half the work to keep it going, you were right to end it.
It wasn't working but you wanted it to, and maybe that's why you're ruminating on it now- if you'd done this instead, or if she'd just done that.. but no new info to go on, so you're kinda stuck in a loop.
The second one, yeah it's kinda disrespectful of her to do that, wouldn't be okay the other way around.
You and your brother and your dad lusting after some mommy milkers at the pier, in earshot of your gf?
Lmao yeah no way dude, she's in the wrong here.
>you're ruminating on it now- if you'd done this instead, or if she'd just done that.. but no new info to go on, so you're kinda stuck in a loop.
Fuck bro you’re right.
And for the record I do understand neither of these instances matter anymore both being things that happened with different exes I have no intent to get back with. But I guess it popped in my head today and I wanted clarity for future reference should similar things occur again. Thank you, oddly enough the clarity I gained from you and the other anon have motivated me to work harder. I want to level up even more.
Hey fitender long time no see. Just a coffee for me
Been a long time. It has been almost five years since my wife died and over three since rehab. Those years kind of sucked. Alcholism, shattered my leg on the job, and thought about An heroing. But now I am back. In the last 17 months I got accepted to a top 15 business school for an executive MBA, just got a director position in a startup, trying to get back to running but still not as much in shape as I was in my Army days. But its getting better. Still have some issues dating because I keep comparing them to her but time is making it easier. Buy a round for the guy going through something. It sucks but it gets better.
You're a beast man, wishing you the best.
It just takes time and small improvements. I forgot that for a while once I thought I made it.
Damn bro. I thought I had it rough. Thank you for persevering man. I need to work harder I don’t got much to bitch about. Good luck dude.
Dude I'm blessed. Even with the shitty stuff that happens my life is comfortable but can improve.
>trying to start eating healthier
>wife shoots down any and all cooking ideas I have for dinner
>keep eating slop, eating BWW currently
>I do 100% of cleaning, home maintenance, chores, etc
>make just under 70k so we survive well enough in the current phase but can't really move up
>release she doesn't support me in really anything other than advancing my career
>having second thoughts about kids because I know I'll be doing all of the crawling out of bed 7 times a night by myself
>sit on toilet/take longer and longer showers just to reflect
>just texted me to tell me to go get something for her from store
>objectively life is great but mentally and physically I am in tatters
just needed to vent before hopping in the car, see you guys around
You deserve better. You'd be better off alone.
I know it's not what you want to hear anon but you need to leave her. If she's not supportive of you trying to better yourself with something as little as dinner, but shows interest in your career goals, you married a gold digger. You can make an attempt to talk with her about it, which might work, but statistically people like her don't ever think they're wrong and are unwilling to change.
If you do try to talk it out instead of just letting go, things will probably go badly because she clearly doesn't want any responsibility, especially since you've let things get this bad already. You've let her become conditioned to the idea that you exist in her life as a servant and a walking wallet but if she won't even agree to eating better, even in the most vague sense, she won't budge on anything beyond that either. They never think about their man, they only think about themselves and how to reach higher and higher no matter who they have to step on to do it. Look out for yourself.
Shes dead weight from the sound of it. Move on.
At this point it really feels like which do you want to put up with
>fat wife who drags you down and cares seemingly only about herself
>you steal little bits of time for yourself where you can
>just getting by, settling, maybe you've convinced yourself life is fine, but then why do you feel this way?
>the emotional and bureaucratic and emotional turmoil of a quick divorce
My advice is to look for somewhere else to live, even just an hour every week.
One, because one of you'll need a new place if you're splitting
Two, because every time you view one, you have to picture yourself there. Picture a life of your own, where you can move in there, build a gym there, keep it clean and neat, live as minimally as you want.
And you can start to think about the kind of woman you might want to share it with you, to start a family with you.
Because Lord knows it's not her anon.
It's been 4 months since we broke up and I still want to be single. Is that normal?
Gotta go see about a girl
There's a girl like that i work with, can't tell if she has a crush on me or it it's just because I'm her boss, but she seems to put a lot of effort into being liked by me.
It's flattering. She's always talking about diet hacks and exercising at home, as if she does it every day.
I'm guessing she just wants my approval, because even months later I just... I'm not seeing it.
I don't know how much longer I can keep smiling when she talks about it.
There comes a time when even using supportive language makes me feel like a sucker.
She's a nice girl, a very practical, sensible thing, and looking at her social media she actually used to be stunning a few years ago.
It's just a bit sad. She's about 27 now, and AFAIK not dating. She'd be such a catch if she'd just do half of what she says she is.
I dunno bros. Sometimes I feel like I have some feelings toward her but I think they are mostly those of a big brother, who wants to know she is gonna make it.
Maybe a Japanese big brother though, because every so often I notice she has a cracking pair lmao
I should add, though context makes it fairly clear- she's a bit fat.
The kind of fat you could probably fix in 6 to 8 months if you got serious and actually asked for help from your 12% boss bro instead of just running out the clock on your 30 minutes a week developmeny meetings together pretending to live the same lifestyle as him
I realized today that it's been over a month since I last jerked off. I noticed my balls have been hurting a lot recently too. Even though I didn't really feel like it, I decided to go jerk off just to make sure it still works. I didn't get my dick up all the way and when I came it was super watery and there wasn't very much, and it started flowing before it normal would and didn't shoot or anything. Orgasm felt weird and I experienced zero post nut clarity. I should probably see the doctor.
Anyway, singles and I go do HIIT cardio and an hour of chores, dubs and I go fall asleep on the couch without even brushing my teeth.