The big Fap lie?

I searched on Google if masterbation lowers testosterone and every result said no.

What the frick?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, who could have thought?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My guess is it lowers your test if you’re a pathetic skinny/obese porn addict. If you go to the gym watch your diet and have high T, if you don’t jack off you’d be nutting in your sleep at least 2x a week.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jacking off to men is the only thing keeping me from having sex with them, thank god im not gay.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I lowled.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        but you do have sex with men (yourself)
        you're technically a homosexual for touching yourself (a man) with a guy's hand

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Now search if it downregulates androgen receptor density

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It was never about test. It’s about your soul power. You need a sturdy temple to hold such magnificence.

    • 1 month ago
      I ignore women

      If masturbation has no effect on anything then why does coomers get ass mad over nofap? If there is not effect who cares right?

      /thread

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >then why does coomers get ass mad over nofap
        Kek nice

    • 1 month ago
      Sage

      >it’s about your soul power
      >you need a sturdy temple
      >posts anime coombait
      Pottery

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ok pagan
      we should keep genociding your kind

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        1 Corinthians 6:19 dummy

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so true bro, lets retentionmaxx like true chads

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are we too deep in the rabbit hole? This was my first thought also. Also if you coom, use your imagination only.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Literally me whenever i see some loser in this board thinking not touching his pp means anything.
      Don't act like this nofap nonsense wasn't suggested by some studies.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like when i jerk my wiener women can smell it or subconsciously know. I get so much more positive reactions when i go out and i haven’t jerked off that day or another. Where as if i crank it before hand broads give me standoffish vibes and are unpleasant. No differences i can find aside from making myself cum. Or maybe it’s all in my head and I’m a paranoid schizophrenic

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're moronic. You just act differently around girls because you're no longer horny and then reinforce standoffish behaviour by convincing yourself of schizo delusions.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but I have had the same experience, could be Im delusional too but I dont think so.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes and so did I, which is why I call it a delusion. At its core it is no different than seeing food when you're hungry or satiated respectively, people just convince themselves that there is more to it.
          If you fap a lot you have no reason to be as outgoing, sociable and interested in girls because your sexual need is already fulfilled. There is a reason why nofap started as an advice for pickup artists.

      • 1 month ago
        I ignore women

        Hmmm almost like jerking off has a psychological effect that is reflected in your behavior.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Black person I can smell when a woman is ovulating.
        I would imagine foids can smell my jizzms too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The moron is you.
        If your theory was correct then women would be standoffish after I'd fricked my wife when in reality they're twice as keen on me.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You're a moron on multiple levels here anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well the ultimate point, which you prove with your post, is that jerking off affects your ability to pick up women. Whether it's physiological or psychological, the end result is the same.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I can smell jerk offs + boys who have sex smell different imo at least when I frick my bf he smells sweeter afterwards def different from when ik hes been going at it lol
      Like a hint of disappointment in the air

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ywnbaw and roleplaying online won't change that

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I mean anonymity aside I guess ur right I cant prove but neither can u loool

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        biggest bullshit in the whole thread. Only a woman can be that stupid and pretentious.

        ywnbaw and roleplaying online won't change that

        Yeah I hesitated too but I go for the A answer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Your 100% correct, I experienced the same but fell off, time to start again and act on it anon !
      >verification not required

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not in your head. It's real.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's real but only if you're an addict

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Frick. I'm on day three, and the qt chubby cashier has been giving me pretty obvious frick me eyes today, now that I think about it. This never happened before. What the shit, its real?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The horniness is probably on your end brother

        But man

        It sure feels real

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, maybe. But if it works, it works, right?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    fapping is only a problem if it affects your time management imo. when i gooned for hours instead of lifting (wasting my pre) or during work hours, I realized I had a problem

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the only problem with fapping is that if you fap before you go out you have no motivation to get laid because you already satisfied yourself. it's fine to fap if you are fricking at least on a weekly basis but if you are a typical guy who gets 0 pussy you need to starve the beast to build up the balls to get girls

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >fap is bad because you don't simp
      Nofap logic. FAPMAXX is the path to liberation from the yoke of the veganal israelite.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >having sex is now a israeli psyop

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It is for non-chads. I ain't simping for an orgasm. Got better things to do.

          Ur just a porn adicct in denial every porn company is israelite owned

          I jerk off to imagination.

          Quite the opposite, fapping makes you more susceptible to the vegana israelite. Nofap has a difficulty curve in the beginning but then gets easiers after 30 days or so

          Yeah, because your test goes to hell after 30 days as your body accepts that you're a eunuch.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ur just a porn adicct in denial every porn company is israelite owned

      • 1 month ago
        I ignore women

        Quite the opposite, fapping makes you more susceptible to the vegana israelite. Nofap has a difficulty curve in the beginning but then gets easiers after 30 days or so

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >google

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cooming makes you weak tho. i have so much more motivation and energy to work out whenever i go nofap for a bit

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe you could, you know, post the study instead of a screencap of a google search. I ain't saying you're lying. I'm saying post the source so others can verify your claim.
    >inb4
    you won't
    Also "expert opinions" are the lowest tier of evidence and holds the same weight as anecdotal evidence.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well, I don't mind to buy there were so many.

      All I did was type "does masterbation cause testosterone to drop?" into google. You should get the same results.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Gets asked to post study
        >Does not post study
        Everytime, like fricking clockwork. If you can bother to screencap your google search you can click on and post a fricking link containing your source.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who would you rather believe, IST or some egghead scientist?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How about neither?
      Eggheads are morons that make bulkshit claims based on shit methodology.
      The average ISTizen will intentionally give bad advice for lulz.
      >t. bad advice giver

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >over the long run
    Of course not. Cum levels are replenished and bring T back to normal. But short term T most absolutey does drop.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >taking google as fact
    Well then I hues abortion isnt murder and trans women are real women and orange man bad

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Excellent point.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you gays, when i jerk off i just think of all the things i've done with different girls, that turns me on. people used to have sex all day everyday in the past. how can frequently nutting be bad for you? i bet it's better for the body to constantly produce fresh sperm
    also i don't want to be horny 24/7, if i were, my judgement would be clouded

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >people used to have sex all day everyday in the past
      Lol u ok

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        im talking more than 500 years ago, what the frick else were they doing?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes yes, 500 years ago people were having sex all day every day. Its not like there was any kind of civilization or society that reqired building roads or farming or policing or or anything in 1500 AD

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so? work was always work fool. back then, the only sort of fun as a man was to go get drunk and have sex. the guys that couldn't get it the easy way just raped women. there were no consequences either (not counting stds)

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You clearly are like 15 and have zero concept of human society or interactions or history and are trying to sound intelligent. I'm not going to respond to you anymore

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                not a real argument, do you think people just worked all day and didn't have fun? ok
                you clearly don't understand the human

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not going to respond to you anymore

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >people used to have sex all day everyday in the past. how can frequently nutting be bad for you?
      People will make up any objectively untrue falsehoods to not stop abusing themselves

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >There is no difference between jacking off to my phone and nutting in my woman.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nofap only benefits guys that goon for hours on end.

  17. 1 month ago
    I ignore women
  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've tried to cut down on jerking off cause I don't like my apartment or myself smelling like cum all the time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't like my apartment or myself smelling like cum all the time
      Do you guys cum on yourselves or some shit? How is something like this even possible?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yyyyeah my cum towels do not stink up my apartment. you can't smell cum more than like an inch away

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >cum towels
          Why dont you do it into a tissue and just throw it away? yall save cum?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't want any of it leaking through to my belly

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    NoFap day 3. I'm doing well but someone posted Rhonda Patrick and I started thinking about licking her butthole again

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ctrl+F prolactin
    >0 results

    This is how I know you homosexuals don't know what you're talking about.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      okay, explain

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes keep jerking off
    Yes keep rewiring your brain's pleasure response
    Yess....YES... YEEEEESSSSS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      post body
      note: any response that is not a picture of YOUR body is void and will result in your loss

      • 1 month ago
        I ignore women
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Jewgle curates results for most things. When you ask something on israelitegle you're basically asking "what does the CIA" want me to think?

    Of course they are going to tell you fapping is good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This anon is right

      Source: went to grad school at a school with a ‘counter terrorism’ program, classmates often talked about their methods of ‘reducing online extremism’ and collaborations with federal agencies, NGOs, and social media sites
      Google changing their name to Alphabet and dropping the ‘don’t be evil’ motto was the writing on the wall, now they’re just a bunch of silly billies who want to use their monopoly to manufacture consent for particular policies
      Very lame!

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Masturbation fricks with ur libido, that's why coomers have no incentive to talk with women, plus it's a bad habit

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's not true. they only did the studies short term. Andrew Huberman spoke about it on his podcast.

    It decreases your T temporarily, but it also heavily increases prolactin which makes you feel content and unmotivated, the levels stay high for hours which practically make your entire day unproductive.

    if you jerk off everyday/even multiple times a day you'll have large swathes of said day where you're being lazy and unmotivated.

    This will decrease T levels long term.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cont.

      Not to mention that porn addiction is crazy fricking bad for your brain, it makes you unattracted to real women, and it makes your sexual desires more and more depraved.

      You know the feeling, where you start off with normal porn and progressively get into weirder and weirder and more degenerate shit just to orgasm.

      It fries your dopamine recpetors, makes everything feel dull.

      There's a reason every single person who does nofap has nothing but praise for it. No one has every come out and said noFap has made them weaker or gave them low T symptoms.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's not true. they only did the studies short term. Andrew Huberman spoke about it on his podcast.

        It decreases your T temporarily, but it also heavily increases prolactin which makes you feel content and unmotivated, the levels stay high for hours which practically make your entire day unproductive.

        if you jerk off everyday/even multiple times a day you'll have large swathes of said day where you're being lazy and unmotivated.

        This will decrease T levels long term.

        I have made the exact opposite experience but thanks for your many paragraphs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it makes you unattracted to real women, and it makes your sexual desires more and more depraved.
        I've seen the obese things you nofap guys try to pipe, so I think the opposite of this is true.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >. Andrew Huberman spoke about it on his podcast.
      Yeah he talked about that poorly done chinese study that IST has talked about every day for 10 years.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are you really trusting a fricking google search for anything it is literally common sense it decreases t

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it decreases it BUT to the level you had before intercourse, thats where the confusion lies

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its not even hard any more not to beat off. Porn has gone to shit. OF absolutely ruined it. There used to be 100,000 hot women posting amateur shit on reddit daily for validation or because horny, and now they're all pros spouting off fake shit and poorly acted fake scenarios.
    Even the fricking cucks on /gif/ are just reposting the same shit from 10 years ago because every amateur cuck couple has gone monetized and fake.
    Pro porn aslo just straight up gave up. Its all step-Xer crap or le BBC!!!!! gay stuff.
    It's all streamlined and one note with ppl chasing fricking data analytics.
    It's industrialized and fake as frick and boring.

    • 1 month ago
      I ignore women

      If there’s any reason to give up masturbation, it’s to not be like this guy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Its not even about jerking off its abt porn
        Just stop watching porn ur just forcing urself to get horny

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But fapping in the shower is healthy then, right? No external stimulation, only imagination.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He

        Its not even about jerking off its abt porn
        Just stop watching porn ur just forcing urself to get horny

        is right. Porn has gotten shitty in the way that movies and IST have gotten shitty. You are memeing yourself into liking it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So true. But at least the PMV's, split screens, goon edits, the fap heroes and all that interactive stuff is pretty good.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's also shit an tiresome. If you gay just be gay.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no not the gay shit.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares what it does to testosterone. Fapping fricks with your dopamine rewards system and makes a degenerate addict with no motivation to do anything productive. Having normal testosterone doesn't mean shit if you don't feel like doing anything because you're already satisfied from cumming.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how about fapping and dick sensitivity? when I frick a girl I can't feel anything until I'm a few seconds from cuming.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that is because you are circumcised

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        but I'm not

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It does increase prolactin levels. If you jerk off enough all the prolactin will turn you into a b***h.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      also increases oxytocin levels.
      while none of these things directly influence testosterone, they interfere with healthy activity that could promote BETTER testosterone levels.

      >jerk off, have sex too much, cuddle
      >become lazy
      >no longer lift
      >testosterone drops
      there is a direct relation to leaving a relationship and suddenly testosterone increasing. proven by studies of thousands of men before and after relationships.

      So tell me
      If being in a relationship can do this to you just by holding someone's hand.
      How would masturbation which raises the exact same hormones not lower testosterone (or prevent your natural level of testosterone).

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have not jerk offd since the evening of March 30th.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      do you have a girlfriend yet?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Broke up with her before that actually

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Disregarding testosterone, saying that masturbation doesn't affect desire is so untrue that you can't believe that source at all. If I cap twice a day I barely get hard for bar bawds, but if I haven't jacked off in a week I'm ready to rape every 7/10 I see.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to jerk off because i cant control my body
    >let me check in with google search scienceTM to see if it aligns with my biases
    >checkmate nofap movement

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The israelites are responsible

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >verywellhealth.com

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    IM going for a 30 day no not streak, wish me luck boys and girls.. Think Im on day 5

    • 1 month ago
      I ignore women

      Goodluck, brother, you’ll reach 30 days before you know it

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it lowers the sensitivity of your hormone receptors involving T. I read this in a study that was linked in an internet article about how masturbation doesnt lower T. of course the israelites running the website left that part out and just wanted everyone to know it doesnt affected blood serum levels of T much if at all.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Typical masturbation addicted people

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i havent coomed in 5 days and I feel a lot more energetic and happy

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What if you only jerk off like once or twice a week, is it worth it to reduce it further?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It has been shown that it takes on average 7 days to recover lost test due to an orgasm. So if you do it once or twice a week you're fine. I only do it on weekends when I frick my gf or jack off when she isn't around. And the workdays I'm sober from any lustful knob polishing.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You got past my nofap filter, so here's your prize

    • 1 month ago
      I ignore women

      Pay attention this had already been deboonked

      https://i.imgur.com/CKxWA2v.jpeg

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yeah this is true, I did nofap once and my cum turned yellowish (I did 4 weeks and then fapped)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah I got that too

      first coom in a long time will be watery

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Guys I'm on day 4. Killed my sperm in the hot tub last night and now I want to "clean the pipes" but nah. Am I never gonna /tub/ or /sauna/ on a long streak? Of course I will. And even without that the sperm are gonna degrade, die, get reabsorbed. So I just need to power through. Already feeling more emotionally stable and mentally clear. This seems like a more dignified way to live.

    (Once I start talking about NoFap it's probably relapse day. But I've done year+ before, it's possible.)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why don't you just frick instead? NoFap is fine and dandy but you need to squirt that boypussy of yours every now and then.

      it's fapping and porn that fricks your brain, not sex

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >why don't you just frick instead?
        NEET, old

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Seriously though. Why can't nofappers ever post body?
    It would be a trump card if anything you say is legitimate.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because they're weirdo cultists who don't understand how their hormones work
      it's like arguing with vegans or carnivores, they think everything bad stems from whatever food they try to avoid

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love the clear mind and strong will I get from continence. I'll NoFap til death.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I realized that nofap was a meme when I kept getting wet dreams after only 7 days. The dreams were nice but cleaning was too annoying so I just went back to fapping every other day.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Literally me whenever i see some loser in this board thinking not touching his pp means anything.
      Don't act like this nofap nonsense wasn't suggested by some studies.

      because they're weirdo cultists who don't understand how their hormones work
      it's like arguing with vegans or carnivores, they think everything bad stems from whatever food they try to avoid

      Seriously though. Why can't nofappers ever post body?
      It would be a trump card if anything you say is legitimate.

      weird why do you zesty guys like touching your dicks so much

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Listen... If you're replying anything but your body it's not helping your cause.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          got it u gay homie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I did 537 days and never had a wet dream

      Good gym gainz so not low test or anything

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP here.

    Fellers, the thing is that sometimes a sex isnt always practical.

    Come home from work dead tired but need to relief; I don't have the energy or time for a full bang.

    Wife is sick for instance.
    Or monthlies.

    Would a fab be harmful to the test?

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just tired of being horny, man. The only superpower I want is not to be horny.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, but the problem is, the horniness is deeply intertwined with our motivation, discipline, drive, everything that makes us do cool shit with our life. If I could get rid of horniness while retaining the other stuff, I'd go for that in a heartbeat. But its not how it works.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're right. I coomed. I have to pursue women. I can't give up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gooning especially really kills your motivation if it's just due to withdrawal of dopamine and similar chemicals or something more the longer and more often you fap the worse it is

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My enemies want me to goon. That's all I need to know, really.

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