>the compound with the barbell at your shins is somehow worse for the spine than the one with all the weight loaded directly on top of your spine

>the compound with the barbell at your shins is somehow worse for the spine than the one with all the weight loaded directly on top of your spine
Squats for some reason are impervious to criticism so all the damage they do just gets blamed on deadlifts. I blame a combination of Rippetoe and Tom Platz.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't do good mornings

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I blame your parents for letting you brush your hair for too long and it turned you gay

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >blaming tom platz
    huh? he squats totally different from rippetoe.
    I blame morons progressing too fast on deadlift with bad form causing a "stigma".

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >huh? he squats totally different from rippetoe
      Yes, but they both have a huge cult of personality surrounding them and they both love the squat and kinda cast aside the deadlift.
      Tom Platz didn't deadlift period and outright said they're a bad movement.
      Rippetoe says to only do one set of deadlift per week and when he was a powerlifter he was one of those squat specialist guys who had a squat PR higher than his deadlift PR.
      To be clear, I'm not blaming injuries on them, I'm saying the culture where criticizing the squat is unacceptable but criticizing deadlift is common is probably inspired by them.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well morons blame movements. Squats will be shit on in a couple years I bet. For a while it was arm day/bros, now it's deadlifts, next it might be squats.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Next, it will be working out as a whole.
          Pic related: Sv3rige (aka Goatis) is already preaching this shit to his followers as a new grift to get everyone to praise his weird ass. Mind you, he used to work out before, but has suddenly changed his mind over the years to get more suckers to pay him Bitcoin.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s almost like… the problem is beginners trying to progress the weight on the bar as fast as possible…

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        So it's Ripplebreasts' fault then. Same with the abomination that is the low-bar squat.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          whats wrong with low-bar?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing, it saves your knees and also grows your low back.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah sometimes I wish my dumbass didn't get on a 5x5 and add 5lbs every session, but that came with pros and cons, and being 2010 and 15years old I had no idea wtf I was doing.
        Alas, a product of our environment. At least my legs and ass are big.................

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          eh not a fan of rippetoe but to play devils advocate did you get a major injury? if not i dont see the issue, the problem is when grown men with stiff bodies try to do it
          a 15 year old can get away with it, thats basically the perfect age to train this way

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            nah. I ended up stop lifting, then back at 21 did it again and had a solid pop in my low back+walking like an old man for a month, then another 3 months of back pain.

            Sad thing is it was only 275lbs, but I was stupid enough to think "ah this isn't heavy" even though my body was fricked and I felt like absolute shit.

            Still, without lifting I might have been a school shooter or just incelmaxxed.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    squats are orders of magnitude more dangerous than deadlifts

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're a little bit more likely to injure your lower back with deadlifts than squats due to the absolute amount of weight being a bit higher on a deadlift.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    true

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >weight on squat too heavy
    >just bail on it
    >weight too heavy on deadlift
    >just let go of it
    >weight on bench too heavy
    >ACK!
    If anything bench should be stigmatised

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think Dan John is spot on about this. Most people will gravitate towards either squatting or pulling depending on things like anthropometry and hip geometry and whatnot.

      agreed. I've never heard of someone dying squatting or pulling, but it happens every so often when someone misses a heavy bench

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because squats compress but deadlifts shear, you moron

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      sure, if you keep your back 100% vertical
      most people cant even on air squats

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is RIppetoe IST?

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    When you were a cave man you had till you were like 35 and you would die of whatever reason.

    You have to go and hunt and you might get ran over by a mammoth or killed by a cave bear. You have to fight off other males who want to kill you and breed with your cave lady and probably your daughter too. You had to be some kind of strong badass to be valuable to the tribe you were in and that meant doing something that might frick you up and injure you for life, which was a short life anyway since your teeth were gonna fall out in a few years. That's what you expected.

    Nothing has changed at all. lifting heavy weights might frick you up somehow. If you don't lift weights, you're not going to reproduce and you're going to be a sad old miserable fricking loser until you die.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >having 400lb pulling your spine from in front of you is not worse than having 400lbs perfectly balanced on your body's natural kinetic chain
    Dyel "expert"

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