The fitness of optimal longevity

1, Low protein. Mostly plant protein can stop and even reverse aging in some tissues.
2. Daily moderate calisthenics that touch every muscle, in order to prevent muscle loss and keep healthy hormonal levels.
3. Daily extreme cold/hot temperature exposure.
4. Low level cardio like brisk walking, for heart health.
5. Minimum carbs and one meal a day (two at most and not too separated).
6. Organic plants, specially those that have been exposed to some kind of stress (like a plague) provide us with molecules that trigger the sirtuins (anti-aging genes).
7. Isothiocyanates in plants like Broccoli have cancer preventing properties.
8. Micromanaging certain micronutrients might also be a good policy.
9. If you wanna go through the pharma route: NMN + Metformin (I'll explain if someone asks)

Am I missing something? I am learning as well, so if you can provide any further insights it'll be appreciated.
Regarding metabolism, I'm still not sure what's the optimal amount and kind of exercise. Optimal meaning the sweet spot between keeping good muscle mass, cognition enhancedment, etc, but without going into the useless territory, which will only accelerate aging speed. I'm not against doing mostly stretching exercise (like yoga).

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Am I missing something?
    Yeah, anticipating the austic gymcels who will seethe at this thread.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Oh I'm aware. I'll just ignore them.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >low protein
    >minimum carbs
    >mostly plants
    >omad
    what the frick are you planning to eat?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      minimum carbs within reason, I never said "go keto"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this thread is obvious bait and morons will fall for it.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Mostly correct but few things you need to change:
    First off reduce protein to an absolute minimum, that means you can't also reduce carbs since increased fat intake is linked with a lot of diseases
    Add intermittent fasting
    Experts recommend HIIT over low level
    Stuff like broccoli/organic plants whatever are good for you but won't really change much your aging mechanism

    >t. Just binged a bunch of prof. Sinclair (a lead scientist in anti aging) and read about a bunch of angry people in the field shitting on him for his work not being peer reviewed or whatever.

    This entire field could just be a front for selling NMN supps though so don't really take it to heart

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >increased fat intake is linked with a lot of diseases
      useless correlation
      doesn't have into account amount of carbs consumed in relation to fat
      >add intermittent fasting
      yeah, it's on the post
      >HIIT
      yep, forgot about that. HIIT once a week can be very beneficial, if you don't take it to an extreme in which you break too much muscle
      >Stuff like broccoli/organic plants whatever are good for you but won't really change much your aging mechanism
      Not true
      >This entire field could just be a front for selling NMN supps though so don't really take it to heart
      He doesn't even sponsor any particular brand of NMN, he just says he takes it. Wherever you go you're always gonna find angry people shitting on someone else, that's not grounds to dismiss all info.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Alright, you're welcome morons. Thanks for nothing. I'm out.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the real rundown:
    1. Coffee
    2. Mediterranean diet
    3. Avoid alcohol
    4. Sleep well
    5. Do some cardio and some strength training
    6. Don't be fat

    Your list is generally questionable and isn't well supported by studies.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1. dog
    2. walk your dog
    3. gf
    4. get your balls drained by your gf
    5. ?
    6. profit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this is not a coomer thread

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Few problems
    >2. Daily moderate calisthenics that touch every muscle, in order to prevent muscle loss and keep healthy hormonal levels.
    Not the full story. Most to least important
    1. HIIT. Twice a week. Making one session every 1-2 weeks with 100% effort bouts. Need that effort for cardiovascular health and sirt’s. You’d know this if you even read the book that I assume you are taking 90% of your info from.
    2. High daily general activity (high step count) ideally with longer walks of 30-60 minutes or more.
    3. Strength training with reps in the 80-95% of max range. Need to maintain fast twitch fibres which are otherwise lost first.

    >NMN
    NMN without extra taking extra methylation co-factors or methylated B’s may frick shit up longer term like 60% of the population. (Same thing with NAC which has been popular here lately).

    You also fell too much for the plants only meme. There’s people who go to extremes and are permanently calorically restricted, will live slightly longer but in poorer physical condition, less energy, lower mental capacity... Is that worth it? Up to you. Similar story with removing all animal products (especially organs, collagen, fish oil, etc are good to eat for health and well-being).

    You also missed the drugs being brought out soon, plasma transfusions, and getting young stem cell therapies (all about 10-100k per year)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I never said "plants only". I said "plants mostly". I also eat eggs and fish. Red meat on the HIIT days.
      >live slightly longer
      There's not enough data to determine what's the lifespan extension in humans, it's too obvious you're trying hard to sound objective but you're clearly biased for animal products. We may not know how it pans out long term, but we know and have established most of the causality on the short term. Plants contribute to longevity and overall health. You will enjoy life like you're a child for most of your life if your diet consists of mostly plants.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Actually red meat should be avoided, probably.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I mostly have an issue with people saying eat more plants, but not what exactly. Like they’re pushing for a “plant based” diet which might just be lots of grains and fruit. I’m biased far those animal products in particular because we can usually be much healthier with high nutrient density (ignoring fda guidlines) such as you get in egg yolks and organ meats. Just saying “plants” or “animals” is a poor term.
        I do eat mostly plants if you look at volume of diet though. Some plants in particular can be hugely beneficial, like ones you listed to start, also look up Sulfurophane in broccoli sprouts if you didn’t see that before.

        >You will enjoy life like you're a child for most of your life if your diet consists of mostly plants.
        Don’t really know what you mean by this. I’ve been happier after eating more liver/brain, eggs, and epa/dha , didn’t get the same effect with eating more plants...

        Personally I’ve scaled back on fish, sometimes freshwater trout from cleaner rivers. But seeing the pharmaceuticals and plastics build up in fish concerned me too much. I might try a heavy metals test at some point to see how that is too, as I used to eat more. Sad because I love mussels especially.

        >will live slightly longer
        16-18% longer doesn't sound trivial to me. You seem to be coping.

        Not trivial but idk if there’s good research to disentangle caloric restriction, nutrient quality, and other factors like lifestyle from diet in the blue zones if that’s what you’re taking about.

        What book?

        Lifespan put out a lot of info but there’s more since and the field has grown

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >will live slightly longer
      16-18% longer doesn't sound trivial to me. You seem to be coping.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What book?

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >low protein
    >minimal carbs
    >low animal derivates
    OK then, from now on my diet will be grass and a glass of olive oil. That sounds like a healthy plan!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Noted, little sarcastic b***h.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What about CoQ10 and NAC, OP ?

    I take this daily: https://www.nutriting.com/nu-shop/nupower-multivitamines/
    What do u think of it?

    Is NMN a meme?

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That's a great idea if your plan is to live like a beta pussy cuck for 100 years

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sex should be avoided for longevity. It's a pointless expense of resources and it's a signalling that accelerates aging.
      Why would your cells care about witholding division when you've already accomplished your biological mission?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What's the point in living just to stave off death?
        It sounds like an incredibly boring, pointless and unfulfilling life considering that death will come anyway.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on what you enjoy of life. If it's only sex, I pity you. You will only enjoy like 10-20 years of your life, optimistically.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not talking about sex specifically, I'm talking about the human experience in a more general sense.
            Living life with the sole purpose of living as long as possible just seems like a waste.
            Surely you'd rather be the flame that burns twice as bright?

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Am I missing something?
    3-7 day fasts every so often for deep autophagy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >every so often
      you mean like once or twice a year at most. That shit depletes micros like you wouldn't believe

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like a lot of effort to avoid the real work of meditation

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You need to get really lucky most of all.

    The current record holder was a lifelong smoker. Anecdotal evidence is bad, sure, but the inverse of that is expecting general trends to apply anecdotally.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Low calorie intake
    >Movement
    >Low cortisol
    >Nonsmoker
    All you really need.

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