The Hype is Over?

What's were wrong? Also all supplements are meme?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Proper diet, exercise, and sleep have always vastly outweighed any supplementation.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There's plenty of supplements with hard science in humans behind them showing their benefit.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All legal supplements are a meme. Yes, even creatine.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why would they be a meme when randomized, placebo-controlled studies in humans have shown their benefit? Especially creatine.
      Or do you not believe in science?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You're being troll be a fraud.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        it's common knowledge that creatine is an anabolic steroid that causes hair loss

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Creatine is about the only one that has real evidence to have any benefit at all and that benefit is just a microscopic increase in immediate performance. You might do one more rep a workout but that hasn't been shown to increase long term muscle or strength gains.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong. Dr. Brad Stanfield has a youtube series covering many different supplements and their provided benefit according to rpc studies.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >DYEL
            >Link to buy my supplements in the description
            Opinion discarded

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              He's an actual doctor so more credible than you at least. And he's not directly selling anything. Now why won't you try to address the hard scientific data he raised in his videos instead?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Actual doctors have a little bar under their videos telling you they're licensed doctors. He's a shill.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Actual doctors have a little bar under their videos telling you they're licensed doctors.
                "FAQ
                #1 Are you really a medical doctor?
                Yes, here's my registration: https://www.mcnz.org.nz/registration/register-of-doctors/doctor/stanfield-bradley-desmond"

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >It's YOUR job to go through these dozens of videos and explain to me why each point raised in every one is a supplement shill to sell you useless witchdoctor herbs at 15% off with my code

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I provided evidence to support my claim that certain supplements are beneficial to humans. You didn't address any of that evidence and instead argued that Dr. Brad Stanfield was not a real doctor, which I debunked here

                >Actual doctors have a little bar under their videos telling you they're licensed doctors.
                "FAQ
                #1 Are you really a medical doctor?
                Yes, here's my registration: https://www.mcnz.org.nz/registration/register-of-doctors/doctor/stanfield-bradley-desmond"

                .

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Actually that was a different anon, whether or not he's a doctor is irrelevant because all you're using that for is an appeal to authority. An obviously biased authority.

                Keep watching though, you too can buy health and fitness in a bottle (the FDA has not verified these claims)

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >because all you're using that for is an appeal to authority.
                He clearly has a higher authority on the subject than some anon on IST. Regardless of that, the actual human studies he mentions in his videos are solid proof of the benefit supplements provide.
                >Keep watching though, you too can buy health and fitness in a bottle
                You criticized my logical fallacity and are now using one yourself? Hypocrite.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Oh no you're not wrong because you're an idiot. You're wrong because you haven't read any real studies. I'm not wasting my time watching your shill doctor's commercials but a quick look at examine shows no studies for creatine for long term muscle or strength growth, only for short term strength output in the 3-5% range which is what I originally said.

                Any other supplements you'd like me to debunk? Because creatine is the closest thing to a real one.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You're wrong because you haven't read any real studies.
                Which real studies are you refering to? Dr. Brad Stanfield has linked all his supplement rpc studies in his videos.
                >But a quick look at examine shows no studies for creatine for long term muscle or strength growth
                "The primary benefit of creatine is an improvement in strength and power output during resistance exercise. Creatine is well researched for this purpose, and the effects are quite notable for a supplement. When used in conjunction with resistance exercise, creatine may modestly increase lean mass. It has also been tested for effects on anaerobic running capacity in many studies, the results of which are rather mixed but generally suggest a small improvement in performance."
                https://examine.com/supplements/creatine/
                >only for short term strength output in the 3-5% range which is what I originally said.
                Where does it say that on examine?
                >Any other supplements you'd like me to debunk?
                But you haven't debunked anything. Examine directly supports my claim that creatine is beneficial for increasing lean mass.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >YouTube Doctor
            Nope

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Follow the money. If anyone is selling something then you can probably disregard them entirely.

        See this israelite.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I found that it's good for relieving stress

        He's an actual doctor so more credible than you at least. And he's not directly selling anything. Now why won't you try to address the hard scientific data he raised in his videos instead?

        doctors are only as good as the system allows them to be

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    creatine, d3 and zma are the best ones
    maybe boron too

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Young people do not (should not) need adaptogens.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      "Young" anon should not spend his time shitposting on IST.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We are not rats or mouses, mostly all supplement are meme

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The thing is I doubt these studies would even work in a study where the rats had good, natural diets. Instead these studies are always like
      >control rats are fed a diet of 100% soi and corn derivatives
      >treatment rats are given half their body weight a day in X random herb instead of soi and corn
      >Look at all these benefits from X herb! Huge T boost!
      >reality is that eating anything other than pure goyslop gives you a T boost like that fricking onion juice

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >What's were wrong? Also all supplements are meme?
    this is a new level of ESL
    what the frick

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Third worlders don't want white men on IST to succeed, hence the constant demoralization posts.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still going to keep taking my suppies. I trust triple-blind studies more than some random morons on the internet.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Care to share your stack?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        600mg Ashwagandha, 2000mg L Arginine, 20mg Zinc, Fish oil (I don't remember the dosage)

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What brand of Ashwagandha do you use?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I buy it raw from an Indian dude at my local public market

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Anything made to increase T is a fricking meme. Get your vitamins (do not go overboard), go out in the sun, work out. If you want more try doing shit the manly men you know do. Oh, and yeah, science is a complete meme, placebo studies are gay and I don't trust it. I would rather take testo injections or ostarine than spend a fortune on meaningless creatine let alone bullshit magic herbs.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Oh, and yeah, science is a complete meme
      t. uneducated, low-skilled worker

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah man I'm sure your epic science-priests of the church of progress only care about what's true and not about who gives them fat cash payments

        >doing shit manly men do
        People overlook this shit here ALOT. Competitive sports, competition with other men, combat sports, motorcycling, smoking, operating a chain saw or chopping wood with an axe are all shown to increase testosterone size body hair and musculature.

        Yeah do martial arts and kill two birds with one stone

        Ashwaghanda does have some human research regarding decreased stress levels.

        So does anti depressants, the difference is one is a chemical formula designed for it and the other is some bullshit herb that might work according to some studies.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Yeah man I'm sure your epic science-priests of the church of progress only care about what's true and not about who gives them fat cash payments
          Sciencists get money because what they are inventing produces beneficial results in humans who will buy those products.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah bro and politicians get paid because they make policies according to the will of the people and not their lobbyists. Trust science only when it can clearly and impactfully be witnessed, otherwise just remain skeptical

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Yeah bro and politicians get paid because they make policies according to the will of the people and not their lobbyists
              They have to please both their voters and the lobbyists.
              >Trust science only when it can clearly and impactfully be witnessed,
              Randomized, placebo-controlled human studies do just that.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If you can't see my point on your post idk what to say

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                How about you just keep your uneducated opinion to yourself?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Remain a moron and keep paying out your ass, that's up to you, others shouldn't have to

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >doing shit manly men do
      People overlook this shit here ALOT. Competitive sports, competition with other men, combat sports, motorcycling, smoking, operating a chain saw or chopping wood with an axe are all shown to increase testosterone size body hair and musculature.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Resistance training increases muscle mass. Creatine on top of resistance training increases muscle mass even more.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >go out in the sun
      that anon is right, you are uneducated
      uvb is not a universal occurrence that happens 100% of the time
      if you actually knew what you're talking about you'd know "just go outside" with no further elaborating is a shitty misleading advice

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It really isn't, go outside and get a tan it will do you good

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Shit that’s been taken for thousands of years in Ayurvedic, Chinese, and other medicines almost always at least does something. The catch is those little chinks and brown people were ripping the roots and mushrooms out of the ground drying and eating them to make their peepee hard, you’re buying pills and powders from israelites and hoping they’re legit. If you’ve got the money to blow and don’t mind it, why not I guess? Upto you.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    vitamin supplements are good
    herbal supplements are scam
    that's all there is to it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ashwaghanda does have some human research regarding decreased stress levels.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Dude just look up those studies, they were all done by pajeets or Arabs.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Only huwaito pepor are allowed to do studies.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    whenever you take t boosters you need aromatase inhibitors or you'll grow breasts, like zinc, but too much zinc and you become schizo paranoid and wake up in the night in panic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      is this true for Boron?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Are you the anon that was trying to push Borax a couple of years ago?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          kek
          meme tier: boron, iodine
          possibly good but should just eat food tier: magnesium, k2, d3, zinc

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            all of these are good, it is not a "possibly" case
            good luck getting a large and beneficial amount of these micros without turning into a bloat lord though
            that's the point of supplements

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Also all supplements are meme?
    yes

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i bought some for stress not t raising memes
    probably placebo but it was only 15 dollars

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    this shit works for me better than some anxiety meds I've taken. everyone's different.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I've never taken anxiety meds but ash worked incredibly well for me too

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Enough whining, post your stack

    Mine is:
    >pregnant woman and baby gummies i stole
    >bath salts
    >diatomacious earth
    >20 other pills
    Thats not even mentioning my powder suppliment mixture that is an 11 herbs and spices mix of all my powders (ashwaghanda, black pepper, fenugreek, diatomacious earth,tumeric etc) blended with alcohol vinegar and olive oil then gently cooked.

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