The Most Gamma Sport

>motivates not avoiding takedowns
>motivates no athleticism
>motivates pure trickery to subdue someone
>motivates remaining on the ground and on your back after getting taken down
>emphasizes the least important aspect of self-defense - submitting someone
>Very easily fucks your joints
The heart of bjj is learning the "tricks" to get someone to submit. In reality, bjj teaches very weak take down skill and contains very little athleticism when compared to nearly every other sport, both being key components to self-defense. The whole art is built around the idea that submitting someone in self-defense is badass and a smart idea, neither being true. The actual ground control is also very weak.

None of this would be a problem if bjj wasn't absolutely everywhere, in demand by every retard trying to learn to "fight". Wrestling, for example, is a far superior sport, and yet wrestling clubs are not as common. Just try finding a wrestling gym in your area; it is very difficult. Judo is in the same boat. The key reason why bjj is so common is that it requires little athleticism, all with the promise of learning "superior self-defense" and "to subdue people of greater size"; this is all false of course. You cannot dissociate athleticism and self-defense. The arrogance of bjj people is astounding.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do MMA fighters talk so much

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yapping the mouth is part of provoking fights of course

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No I mean type so much. Every MMA post is just a long rant about why one fighting style is better than the other for X amount of reasons that they pretend will once be needed in real life
        It's a sport, pick the sport you like

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pick the sport you like
          There is a market demand for bjj because of the Gamma mentality. That is, learning the tricks to hurt people without any athleticism or character. It is a sport that draws on the weakness of people with big promises of self defense. In reality, this means other better sports, such as wrestling or judo, become harder to find because every gym turns into a bjj gym, and every MMA gym emphasizes bjj the most. The point is its hard to find other options. Former wrestlers are forced to partake in this shit sport because they can't go anywhere else

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah dude just get a life long back injury because you wrestled some roided loser who was bullied in highschool. Its a sport for retards and larpers

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >some dork going on a page long rant because someone told somebody to do 10 reps instead of 5 because doing 10 reps is "bodybuilding" and will totally fuck you over
      >check profile
      >0:0 135lbs

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When weapons are an option, and where in most of the "civilised" world you end up worse off in the long run if you get caught defending yourself; martial arts are just that; arts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree they are just arts. Bjj however is absolutely everywhere, and yet its one of the dumbest sports to learn self-defense. Its the first one people think of nowadays when 'learning how to defend yourself'. Judo and wrestling are better options

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Judo is decently available around London, but you are right there is a massive saturation with BJJ.
        Personally I think the self defense aspect you learn from each art is to avoid the modality you train in. In terms of self defense;
        >Judo teaches you how to avoid being thrown
        >BJJ teaches you how to get back off the ground and avoid a pin
        >Striking arts teach you to avoid a concussion

        There is value in learning BJJ, but probably after becoming proficient in other areas.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm american, so judo is a lot less common than in europe or UK. Bjj is literally the only grappling alternative to wrestling. American wrestling, which is a great sport, doesn't exist outside of high school and college. Sometimes i go to an MMA gym nearby and they do some wrestling, but that's only like 1 session a week. And I mean real wrestling where you avoid getting pinned. These gyms are expensive too. And frankly, bjj is just plain boring. I go for a takedown and the guy just falls over to get me in his guard.
          >Bjj teaches you how to get back off the ground and avoid the pin
          Yes it teaches it, but the sport itself doesn't motivate this, which is why the activity itself is so stale compared to wrestling, where you actually LOSE if you get pinned.

          I think knowing bjj is valuable, but its everywhere like an invasive species.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a judoka from cuckanada and have been to 10 different tournaments in the states. Judo isn't an attention whore like bjj and doesn't get advertised as much because judo academies are the furthest thing from a mcdojo and you can't pay your way to a blackbelt. You actually have to earn it. We have ground work as well and everytime a judoka rolls with a bjjfag 8/10× the judoka submits the bjjfag especially if he has good sambo skills as well.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              No one in America really knew about judo since it was never mainstream like boxing, but UFC came along and bjj is the only thing that is seen as a real life superpower even though all it is, is just the Brazilian STYLE of judo that was given a different name so the gracies could advertise it to markets that weren’t familiar with it. Everything was already in judo that is in bjj, but they focused on the ground like kosen judo did (before bjj). Which is the fault of kano for not making kodokan judo like kosen from the beginning. Bjj in my opinion is its own sport, but the martial art is judo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >pick the sport you like
        There is a market demand for bjj because of the Gamma mentality. That is, learning the tricks to hurt people without any athleticism or character. It is a sport that draws on the weakness of people with big promises of self defense. In reality, this means other better sports, such as wrestling or judo, become harder to find because every gym turns into a bjj gym, and every MMA gym emphasizes bjj the most. The point is its hard to find other options. Former wrestlers are forced to partake in this shit sport because they can't go anywhere else

        Bjj is everywhere because its a fun sport
        nobody actually trains "for self-defense"
        only inbred neet incel retarded shit flinging morons discuss street fighting
        youre one so kys

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >butt-scooting
          >fall on your back take-down defense
          >fun-sport
          kys

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            lmao you know actually nothing about bjj. go strawman somewhere else and kys

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Volleyball or lifting doesn't teach takedown defense neither but people will still do it in evenings with mates while you sit in your moms fucking basement and jerk off you wannabe warrior moron cunt

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          agreed, best self defense is 2A, BJJ like wrestling is a fun sport.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you know what art means?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do both judo and bjj, judo mogs tbh. But BJJ is still enough to beat an untrained person lol

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >boxing/ muay thai for striking defense and offense
    >judo/ wrestling for takedown defense and offense
    >BJJ for ground fighting and submissions

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If only there was someone to mix martial arts

      Oh well

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Almost like I just described mma. Wow

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >using 5 lines to describe a 3 letter acronym unnecessarily

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    more like blow job-jitsu heh

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bjj

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand why BJJ guys can't into wrestling and stand up. You don't see wrestlers struggle to learn submissions and BJJ game so how come it's never the other way around

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just the way it is trained, the bjj schools my friends went to vs the ones I’ve seen all have one thing in common, one person almost always stays the round butt scooting

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because it attracts Gammas - i.e. loser's. Standup is fatiguing, so requires athleticism. The whole sport is built on the framework of beating people up without being athletic. Wrestling, on the other hand, is a total grind. This is because taking down people is a total grind. Of course, grinding and pain are aversions to the gamma, who simply wants the 'secret code' to winning.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        We have wrestling classes in my gym and coaches who used to wrestle, and sometimes have sparring after class where we can't pull guard.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >posting a fat white belt as an example of BJJ

      Kys, you've never even gotten a stripe on a white belt lol

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP what sports did you invent?

    Why can't you just let people enjoy things?

    What do you get out of this?

    Concerned about you

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I agree guard players are gay but nothing is stopping you from incorporating wrestling into your style and becoming a top control/wrestling heavy player. In fact just about every relevant top tier competitors preach about the importance of wrestling in grappling

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    didn't read

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some of the toughest and scariest men I know are super into BJJ, even if they understand that ground game is only a part of physical confrontation and in real combat there are no referees awarding points.
    Sounds like OP is buttmad his flavor of fighting sport isn't in the spotlight

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ?t=797
    idk man. maybe your dojos are just bad. You're from the US I presume?
    BJJ rolling is comfy, shouldn't that suffice?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"to subdue people of greater size"
    This is the most bizarre aspect about all these martial arts, why would you want to be and look weak yet be able to hurt people?
    Why would you want to be a low status man by looking weak and being unhealthy but then surprise people by being a violent retard who learned some autism-jutsu bullshit for years just to be able to hurt people? This will never make you bad ass, you will just go from "weak autist" to "dangerous retard" in people's head which is even lower status.
    Just do a sport for the beauty of the sport and to stay in shape or don't bother.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This stems from judo's origin story. Jigoro Kano was a tiny frail man but the judo he founded was beating every other outdated martial arts

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        In the context of sport it is pretty based to beat someone who is bigger and stronger I guess. Still I can't help but cringe when I see or hear about those "self defense" obsessed incels who are training for tens of years in the hope that chad goes mad at some point so they can beat him and impress their high school crush from 15 years ago like they're the karate kid or something.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cope, i'll look like a manlet and i'll beat your ass

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        why would you want to beat random people? How did you become such an aggressive retard? Did your dad beat you?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            lmao enjoy being even more of an outcast, retard. Real life is not some gay 80's action movie.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              fear me, weakling and seethe and tremble at the sight of any manlet

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'll just keep mogging the shit out of you and you'll either do nothing (look like a pussy) or act overly aggressive (look like a retard). 😀

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can use your body if I want 🙂

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fundamentally any technique or weapon is supposed to enable you to prevent someone simply stronger than you from physically coercing you, not just BJJ.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lanklet in FEAR

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Training MMA is the most alpha activity/sport you can do.
    >Exclusively training BJJ is gay, and wearing the Gi is retarded
    I would recommend boxing, muay thai, wrestling, and nogi bjj all mixed together

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    goddamn i dont have the time or money to go to mma classes. i just lift everyday at the homegym for around 2 hours.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    one more

    ?t=175

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the bjj guy threw more kicks than the muay thai guy

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't it weird how it's alway the other sports that come and bash BJJ but people who do BJJ never post something like this. And probably because they are training and having fun and not being self-conscious about if their sport is better than x or y in z situation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bjjers are absorbed in the bubble of the sport. Everyone else who haven't bought into it have to deal with its ubiquitous dojos and fans, all while struggling to find better, cheaper alternatives.

      Bjjer's in this thread aren't getting the full context. Bjj, from the perspective of OTHER grappling sports (wrestling, judo, etc.) is a subpar sport. It lacks real athleticism and intensity. It is boring. Anyone who's wrestled knows bjj is not really a replacement, but that's what we're stuck with since wrestling doesn't exist outside high school and college. Judo is also less common in the US. However, when trying to wrestle a bjjer, their objectives are retarded because the sport is retarded. It does not reward aggression. So the bjjer just tumbles over, or you roll on the ground fishing for submissions, which is not very exciting. Its not as deep as bjjer's think. And most importantly, it is NOT fun. Taking down people is fun because it is INTENSE. Bjj is not intense. It is for people who sucked at wrestling but still want to fell bad-ass.

      None of this would be a problem if bjj was just here and there, and there were more wrestling gyms or grappling gyms that aren't bjj. But no. Everywhere you go, every MMA gym, emphasizes bjj above everything else. This is because it is in more demand and it is EASIER than learning standup. Ideally 90% of the training should be towards takedowns since that is more fun, more intense and more important. The rest should be ground game. But no, bjj gays love how good they are at submissions. So we have to waste our time laying on our backs. It really is a shit sport for anyone who wants something exciting

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I thought this thread was just another one of those mindless "XD bjj is gay", but you're actually spot on. The reason people hate on bjj is because it's everywhere, it's expensive, and it's overrated by normies. I do bjj bc I like grappling and there's no alternatives that's within an hour of me. My mma gym has bjj taught and filled with ufc fighters amongst fighters in other major mma organizations. And it's so stereotypically bjj it sucks. Takedowns are rarely taught and even more rarely practiced because EVERYONE is afraid of getting hurt falling. If I ever hear a Judo, Sambo, or wrestling club opening nearby, I'm definitely going to drop bjj.
        To compare, when I did Judo, my athleticism and coordination improved a lot. Class was balanced between stand up and ground work. Maybe a jiujitero might say Judo ground work sucks, but it's contextually different. Judo ground work starts with turtle typically (you might get thrown or fail a throw in which case turtle is the most common defensive position). In Judo, you have a few seconds to do something or else the ref will stand you up, so it's less pussy footing around like bjj ground game (where you can sit in a position for minutes and do barely anything with no qualm). Judo also has pins, so sitting with your back on the ground (other than guard/half guard) means you lose. Overall, fuck I miss Judo, I like grappling, and I think bjj is mediocre (no gi bjj is the only good thing to come out of the mass popularity of bjj).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        bro what kind of BJJ school you going to takedowns and takedown defense along with top control are literally a cornerstone of the sport.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The average bjj school has a 5 minute warmup, drills a takedown or defense for 2 minutes, then starts live from guard or the majority are buttscooting for the rest of the hour or so long class

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The pure cope of this post. If you really feel like that go apply to a submission only grappling match, without doing any bjj, and win with your superior grappling. You seething fag.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've actually done this back in college. it is a joke that you can win a submission grappling tournament by just taking down then standing up

          bro what kind of BJJ school you going to takedowns and takedown defense along with top control are literally a cornerstone of the sport.

          I went a bjj only school for a few years. Then now stick to an MMA gym. There's takedowns and takedown defense, but not to the same level of basic high school wrestling. Its just weak in comparison

          the problem is that wrestling is a bit gay if you do it as a young man, but it becomes very gay if you do it as a grown up hairy man

          true lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally the opposite, bjjtrannies are the most narcissistic tryhardfags i met in all combat sports.
      >Oh you do judo? i would just take your back when you go for your throws *gets slammed*
      >Oh you do wrestling? I would just submit you from the bottom, you guys have no subs *gets manhandled*
      >Oh you do striking? i would just submit you lol *gets ko'd*
      >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY HECKING UFC *bjj specialist get submitted and ko'd left and right by non bjj specialist in ufc*

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        MY HECKING UFC *bjj specialist get submitted and ko'd left and right by non bjj specialist in ufc*
        post 1

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the guy in red is literally the first bjj black belt of his country, so literally an expert on the matter

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ah yes, literally learned bjj in his mma gym, truly the peak of bjj mastery.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >bjj black belt ko'ed by another bjj black belt
                that's the pic you posted, sorry, Anon

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes all it takes to beat bjj experts is the grappling you learn from mma.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ryan Hall started grappling with MMA. He was never a top tier pure BJJ practitioner

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This isn’t true. He literally makes bjj dvd’s.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone and their mother makes and can make instructionals. Doesn't guarantee that they're actually good. Look up his BJJ competition records. His peak was when he was handed 3rd place at ADCC in more than 10 years ago when it shouldve went to Leo Vieira. I do like Ryan Hall because he does funny shits but he's an absolute nobody in competitive grappling.

                t. casual

                t. Ryan Hall

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                t. casual

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >meme sport jiu jitsu practitioner that throws spinny shit when he isn't trying to imanari roll
            >a good representation of BJJ in actual combat

            yeah, go look at Charles Oliviera or Glover Teixeria, Nate Diaz or Tony Ferguson

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Charles is the only good one there and he wins by first knocking people on their ass.
              Glover literally got submitted by a weeb larping that literally said he never did jiujitsu.
              >Tony and Nate
              Fucking kek, you trannies are desperate.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, no striker has ever been knocked out and no wrestler has ever been submitted in the UFC

        Jesus christ this cunt it retarded

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s not that he is entirely wrong, he is just being hyperbolic about everything. At the end of the day it’s up to the individual but smug bjj guys do say those things more than not

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >in a thread filled with smug, delusional bjj haters
            >"yeah those smug bjj guys..."
            Now this is projecting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The cope, bjj purists are insufferable and talk so much shit, almost all other types of fighters have respect for other sports. I’m a boxer and respect the hell out of wrestlers, judo, and muai thai.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    huh?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The sport doesn't give this build. Weight lifting does. All bjj gives is fucked up ears, which again, bjjer's think is a badge of honor. It is not.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        couliflower ears is a mark of wrestling and if athleticism wasn't required in bjj, why those guys, some of the best to do it, look like that?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes wrestlers get cauliflower ear. That is why headgear exists to prevent it. Every coach knows that shits retarded to get and causes pain, and headgear is promoted for a reason. Nothing to be proud about. And as to athleticism if these bjjers...
          >some of the best to do it, look like that?
          Average and decent wrestlers look like that. It is nothing remarkable. Bjj does not build this body-type. Your typical bjjer does not even compare.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            and? mma doesn't build this either, weights does, same in boxing and on and on, your complaint is retarded

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You are trying to make an argument by showing guys with big builds. I'm pointing out that has nothing to do with your typical bjjer. However, wrestling WILL give you a very athletic build due to the very nature of the sport, NOT due to weightlifting. Youre chimp-posting IQ is showing right now

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >OP mentioned about the lack of athleticism
                >proven wrong
                >REEEEEE IT'S NOT BJJ IT'S WEIGHTS
                >er... like almost the rest of the sports?
                >REEEEEEEEEEEE YOU LOW IQ REEEEE ME WRESTLER AND STRONKKK
                ok

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Posts exceptional bjjers as what a typical bjjer looks like.
                >proven wrong
                >Claims every sport is requires weight lifting to get athletic
                >proven wrong again
                You are a chimp

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sambo Is goat.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People that shit on bjj usually have done multiple things and figured that bjj is shit, people that like bjj usually have only done bjj.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How about you train something useful like weapon skills or first aid instead of playing fantasy grabass with men?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Firearms is a different sport. I go shooting regularly and have hunted all my life. Now, lets use your post to make a comparison so we can understand this problem better. Just imagine if 99% of the gun ranges you visited, you could only shoot hand-guns. No rifles. Nothing. Just handguns. This is because everyone thinks that shooting a rifle is pointless, since the government banned them, their "too big and clunky", and other bogus reasons. So you are forced to never get to shoot your preferred gun. This is how bjj is and operates. It is everywhere. We are all compelled to do it or do nothing at all. Of course, unlike a hand-gun compared to a rifle, bjj is notably lamer than other grappling sports

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're kidding. Are you really in a place where you can find multiple BJJ gyms and not boxing gyms? Are you sure your problem isn't poverty?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Boxing I can find and MMA gyms as well. But pure wrestling does not exist and pure judo is miles away. But I’m more into grappling than striking, so boxing isn’t really an option. This is related to the price, since mma gyms are expensive but only for a little wrestling, so not worth it. I’m paying for all this other stuff I don’t care about

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >HE'S TALKING ALL THIS BIG SHIT AND HE DOESN'T EVEN STRIKE

            DON'T EVER LISTEN TO /FIT HOLY SHIT

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you do it well enough then you'll eventually compete against other athletes

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine a martial art that's based on dropping to the ground, rolling on your back and presenting your genitals to your opponent. Gay stuff for sure.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tfw no turkish oily men to wrassle with on weekends here in USA

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm available if we can arrange a gay marriage for green card. No homo.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bjj
    Shamefur dispray

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      VGH... so fvcking zased. fvck Blowjobjob

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >be south Brazillian
    >bjj gym in every corner of the city
    >every bjj gym is owned and coached by IBJJ world champions or retired UFC fighters

    Ok, should I try it? Right now I'm not in my best shape.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck you for not taking advantage of this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I live in Australia and there are a few BJJ gyms around where I live, considering to try it out eventually.
      Used to train in wrestling when I was a kid so that gave me a bit of an insight in grappling.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another thread from someone who went to a bjj class and got fucked up by a 125lb woman and now talks shit about it

    You're a pussy OP, I'm a blue belt and will fight MMA within the next year

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My ear keeps hurting and if I get cauliflower ear I'm gonna kms.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    not all schools emphasize not having athletic ability / having size power, etc..
    A good academy will promote a strength program and lump together judo techniques / wrestling/ BJJ and make it submission grappling, that's what Jiu Jitsu really is at its heart. unfortunately since it is everywhere the majority of academies tend to soften it up and their programs to make it palatable for the average normie. it's a shame. It is arrogant to throw the whole art out the window when it is proven effective.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wrestling is equally retarded in a fight. If you go for a wrestling takedown irl you can easily bang you head/neck and end up paraplegic or retarded.
    BJJ has great concepts, Judo and Wrestling have great concepts.
    Muay Thai and Sambo are the apex of real world fighting.
    I've tried a little bit of all of them and a lot if Muay Thai/Boxing, you need all of the pieces to complete the puzzle.
    It's like rock paper scissors. If you only possess one you're vulnerable to the others. BJJ has flaws, so do all fighting sports.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ is simulated sex

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    pretty much this
    if you wanna learn to fight just pick up striking
    boxing is god tier but if you wanna know some leg work too get on muay thair or kick box
    EVERYTHING else is pure LARP and a cope and a meme
    redditfags will seethe

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based berserk poster

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bjj is a meme

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No. Outside of Japan and maybe Russia, Judo is mostly for children. If you're not near a major city, you pretty shit out of luck.
    Here in Poland for example, I live in a major city with almost 20 gyms that offer Judo. None of them I know of have Judo for adult programs. You can pay a high price for private lessons though.
    Try looking Sambo, Wrestling, shoot fighting, or Sanda/Sanshou if you want stand up grappling with mat elements.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Try looking Sambo, Wrestling, shoot fighting, or Sanda/Sanshou if you want stand up grappling with mat elements.
      based thanks, i thought Sambo was a meme outside of russia and maybe even inside of russia, is it really extended and easy to find good gyms?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on where you are, mate. Sambo is no joke. Fedor and Khabib are two of the greatest fighters ever. In my personal opinion, Khabib is the greatest hand to hand fighter in history that we have evidence of.
        Sambo is a blend of BJJ, Wrestling, Judo, and Kickboxing. If anything it is probably the most complete martial art because their grappling is in the context of fights where someone can strike you and their striking is in the context of of a fight where someone can takedown or submit you.
        Just Google your location + Sambo. Hopefully you have a gym nearby. I have one legit one and one mcdojo one but the good one only has 2 classes a week that conflict with my schedule so I train Wrestling, MMA, and BJJ for my grappling.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Where do you live?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on where you are, mate. Sambo is no joke. Fedor and Khabib are two of the greatest fighters ever. In my personal opinion, Khabib is the greatest hand to hand fighter in history that we have evidence of.
      Sambo is a blend of BJJ, Wrestling, Judo, and Kickboxing. If anything it is probably the most complete martial art because their grappling is in the context of fights where someone can strike you and their striking is in the context of of a fight where someone can takedown or submit you.
      Just Google your location + Sambo. Hopefully you have a gym nearby. I have one legit one and one mcdojo one but the good one only has 2 classes a week that conflict with my schedule so I train Wrestling, MMA, and BJJ for my grappling.

      spain, don't know much about the martial arts world, but from what i've seen here it's mostly karate and judo for kids, and then there's boxing or kickboxing for adults, but may be wrong about that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        if you are in a big city or in Galicia, you might find wrestling, if not, look for a judo club which practice newaza (aka bjj) along with standing game

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I see a bunch of judo clubs in Spain with adult classes.

          will check, thanks, enjoy lifting but feel like trying something that requires more skill and competition

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I see a bunch of judo clubs in Spain with adult classes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on where you are, mate. Sambo is no joke. Fedor and Khabib are two of the greatest fighters ever. In my personal opinion, Khabib is the greatest hand to hand fighter in history that we have evidence of.
      Sambo is a blend of BJJ, Wrestling, Judo, and Kickboxing. If anything it is probably the most complete martial art because their grappling is in the context of fights where someone can strike you and their striking is in the context of of a fight where someone can takedown or submit you.
      Just Google your location + Sambo. Hopefully you have a gym nearby. I have one legit one and one mcdojo one but the good one only has 2 classes a week that conflict with my schedule so I train Wrestling, MMA, and BJJ for my grappling.

      [...]
      spain, don't know much about the martial arts world, but from what i've seen here it's mostly karate and judo for kids, and then there's boxing or kickboxing for adults, but may be wrong about that

      and aikido for people who like Steven Seagal films, but usually the instructors look like a meme so doesn't seem like a good idea

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aikido is bullshit. There is one move that kinda works and they teach you to fall properly. Other than that it's trash.

        [...]
        spain, don't know much about the martial arts world, but from what i've seen here it's mostly karate and judo for kids, and then there's boxing or kickboxing for adults, but may be wrong about that

        Sambo is the real deal. Wrestling, Judo, BJJ, MMA, Boxing, and Muay Thai are all legit but have pluses and minuses. At the very least your should have an mma gym nearby. It is not going to make you the next UFC champ but in a few years you'd fuck up 95% of the guys you see in daily life.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bjj is a sport, not self defense. What a shit retard post

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You mad a Lil old lady got you to tap out again?

      Missing the whole point of the post. I know bjj. I'm very familiar with it, having done it for about 4 years now on and off. I simply don't care for it, like a hookup. Interestingly enough, this joke of 'muh but a girl beat you up that's why yur so critical' is in fact a component of the OP. bjjers are so wrapped up in the 'but you can beat anyone with bjj', that their own rhetoric can't escape it. They think everyone gives a shit about losing by submission in bjj. But who cares1 In real self-defense, getting submitted is the least of your problems, second to (a) getting shot, (b) getting knocked out, and (c) getting taken down and your head kicked in. Then the same bjjers say 'but bro its not about self-defense, its just a sport', all while saying 'lol he got beat by a girl'. So which is it? Clearly it is the latter. bjjers do it to feel tough and 'like fighters'. But the sport itself DOES NOT build toughness or athleticism, at least not compared to other grappling sports.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I simply don't care for it
        >I'm very familiar with it, having done it for about 4 years now on and off
        If you don't care for it why are you spending 4 years of your life doing it on and off?

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You mad a Lil old lady got you to tap out again?

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    In America it is so hard to find judo, I moved recently and the closest strictly judo gym is 2 hours away, I still go once a week because that is where I used to train all the time and judo is my main martial art way. Bjj is around every other street corner nowadays and according to robert drysdale and rhadi ferguson, two renowned people in the community who dont get enough attention, bjj is judo, at least the martial art, the sport is a separate thing now but it is all just a style of judo. If you’re in europe it should be significantly easier to find a judo gym

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some more context. If you didn't wrestle in the US you won't get this immediately. So in the US, you learn wrestling for basically free. You do it practically every day, training at an extreme intensity, for barely nothing. Pennies. So you do this for about 8 years, and then you get into the real world and start working, so wrestling becomes a thing of the past. However, eventually it would be 'nice' to re-experience the sport in some shape or form. So what are the options? Well, you shop around and find there are a couple: (a) teach at your old high school or in college; (b) do MMA, or (c) do bjj. Only option (a) is the cheapest, but you're not wrestling adults so its kinda weird. There are expectations you need to be super good and keep up with the kids, which is difficult due to age. Option (b) and (c) cost a fuck-ton. When you compare the price to the basically free intense training you had as a kid, it is very disappointing. Paying $200 for some wrestling, maybe twice a week? Nah, I'll pass. So we are left with changing our interests all together.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the problem is that wrestling is a bit gay if you do it as a young man, but it becomes very gay if you do it as a grown up hairy man

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: a bunch of dudes at the top of the Dunning Kruger curve giving antecdotal evidence on martial arts from their crumbs of experience. Find a combat sport gym, go train, compete when you can so you know your shit objectively works. BJJ/Judo/Wrestling all have pros and cons, BJJ is just accessible to the average person. People think Wrestling is a superior art, but that's usually because wrestlers they see have been training and competing in the school system since they were kids. BJJ BTFO out of Wrestling for the first couple UFCs. Then the fucking monsters from the NCAA learned some submission defense and started winning. Shocker.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >: a bunch of dudes at the top of the Dunning Kruger curve...
      The top of the Dunning Kurger chart are the people with high confidence, and high results. Contrary to what plebbit might tell you, the people who know less tend to be less confident, not more. You just exposed yourself as someone who talks about shit he doesn't understand.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    And once the wrestlers learned some submission defence the BJJ guys got on gear, started better
    Strength & conditioning routines and cross trained some takedowns at a wrestling club. No decent UFC fighter is a one trick pony anymore. They all train everything, and if they're not well rounded someone who is will come along and stop them eventually, looking at you Conor McGregor. If you're looking for something to start? Go to a BJJ club, train a bit, and try to visit other gyms as much as you can to make sure you're not at a McDojo.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pure Wrestling is better, bjj has too much downtime

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wanna do kendo because full contact sparring is the tits
    >only dojo in my area does bujikan and aikido

    Bros...
    I just want to whack people in the head with a hefty stick. Is that much to ask?

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As someone that has trained mma, wrestling, judo and jiujitsu, bjj is the inferior grappling art because of the lack of pinning techniques and the lack of strength and conditioning.
    Bjj revolves around the use of position to get a submission and most places focus more on submissions from your back and although bjj does have top control and submissions from the top, all the bjj does in the top position is the mount.
    Wrestling although it doesn't have submission is all about getting to top control and combined with the strength training it mogs the shit out of bjj groundwork because you actually need to break a pinning technique before you are able to counter attack, if you don't know the proper techniques, you simply can't do a submission, sweep, reversal and what not if you are being pinned.
    Judo ground work also revolves around getting pinning techniques before getting a submission when it goes to the ground and even if bjj seemingly has more variety of subs (except for leg locks it really doesn't have more subs than judo, everything else is the same)
    Bjj revolves around controlling a position to get a submission, however it doesn't have pinning techniques (wich is what you want to use to control a position) so it fails when going against someone that does wrestling or judo.
    Mma already teaches the same type of grappling as bjj + wrestling takedowns and pins.

    Bjj is obsolete and gets mogged by every other grappling style by having better technique and infinitely better strength training.
    If you want to do bjj go ahead, you might get good at bjj but if you want to learn to fight there is better options out there.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >As someone that has trained mma, wrestling, judo and jiujitsu,
      You never did any of those things you larping piece of shit

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t.doesn't even know what a pin is.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Found the sperg.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    funny how being just ridiculously stronger than your opponent negates their little tricks

    t. purple

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, funny video to watch is zack telander going against a world champion bjj lad, holds his own the entire time with very little precious experience just cause he is tall and strong

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