Morons on here always claim it is dangerous because their 2d brains can't understand the concept of using reasonable weight and rep ranges for different exercises.
>Morons on here always claim it is dangerous because their 2d brains can't understand the concept of using reasonable weight and rep ranges for different exercises.
There's more than 200lbs on that bar in the OP. I understand that Klolov is an Olympian but it that's a lot of weight regardless and it looks like he's push-pressing it.
Presses can be used to great effect at all angles, including this one, if you know what you're doing with your lift selection. This one does use the rear delts more than than any other but not near enough to call it a rear delt lift.
>Morons on here always claim it is dangerous because their 2d brains can't understand the concept of using reasonable weight and rep ranges for different exercises.
Literally everyone I see doing this push-presses it which seems antithetical to the "reasonable weight" part of your statement. Hell, the OP pic is of a push-press even.
Been doing these for a month, 2ice a week and yeah my rear delts feel on fire every time. I think they work all three heads better than regular OHP and they force you to have a neutral spine, so no chance of turning it into a standing incline curl.
the lateral delt does work a lot more on behind the neck presses but the problem is that it still sucks for hypertrophy compared to a regular lateral raise, and the rear delts are basically doing nothing on any form of pressing, pullups work the rear delts about 9x more according to EMG readings
you may be correct, i'm just going by how the muscle feels, and i do feel them more on behin neck that regular ohp. Good thing i still do pull ups like 4 tiems a week.
Am I supposed to be "pulling the bar appart" while doing ohp / behind the neck ohp? I just had this realization that I think my form sucks and it's the reason my elbows are flaring.
That's not how the rear delt is oriented or contracts. As a pain specialist I would say tear it up but I don't need any more clients right now.
Stick to rear delt flys, parallel rows, face pulls and static holds.
If you lock out like a snatch then yes, your rear delts are activated.
IMO, I have had rear delts hit like nothing else doing the klokov press (subjective) but it only happens when you lock out like you have done a snatch.
Armpits out - facing forward, head forward through the arms
You use the rear delts to pull your arms back behind your neck. Really puts the behind the neck in the behind the neck press.
I am not saying that it's gonna induce much hypertrophy in them though. Maybe with a preexhaust.
Literally all they're doing is holding the shoulder joint in place in a BTN press. Do you do bench for your lats too, because it's the exact same concept.
Your rear delt does not attach in a way that any form of overhead pressing activates it in any significant way. It hyperextension the shoulder beyond the midline of the body and transverse abducts the shoulder. It's basically the opposite of the pecs.
>rear delt
LMAO, tell me you're new to working out without telling me you're new to working out. Maybe you should have basic understanding of what each exercise does before posting stupid shit like you know what you're talking about
Yep.
Morons on here always claim it is dangerous because their 2d brains can't understand the concept of using reasonable weight and rep ranges for different exercises.
>Morons on here always claim it is dangerous because their 2d brains can't understand the concept of using reasonable weight and rep ranges for different exercises.
There's more than 200lbs on that bar in the OP. I understand that Klolov is an Olympian but it that's a lot of weight regardless and it looks like he's push-pressing it.
125 kg strict press behind neck for 4 reps. no push.
Inb4 some idiot tears something in their shoulder
>rear delt
Presses can be used to great effect at all angles, including this one, if you know what you're doing with your lift selection. This one does use the rear delts more than than any other but not near enough to call it a rear delt lift.
Black person dont know his muscle groups, the thread
>rear delt
If a muscle gets longer during the concentric portion of a lift then it is not an effective exercise for that muscle
>dies
>Morons on here always claim it is dangerous because their 2d brains can't understand the concept of using reasonable weight and rep ranges for different exercises.
Literally everyone I see doing this push-presses it which seems antithetical to the "reasonable weight" part of your statement. Hell, the OP pic is of a push-press even.
Been doing these for a month, 2ice a week and yeah my rear delts feel on fire every time. I think they work all three heads better than regular OHP and they force you to have a neutral spine, so no chance of turning it into a standing incline curl.
the lateral delt does work a lot more on behind the neck presses but the problem is that it still sucks for hypertrophy compared to a regular lateral raise, and the rear delts are basically doing nothing on any form of pressing, pullups work the rear delts about 9x more according to EMG readings
you may be correct, i'm just going by how the muscle feels, and i do feel them more on behin neck that regular ohp. Good thing i still do pull ups like 4 tiems a week.
Am I supposed to be "pulling the bar appart" while doing ohp / behind the neck ohp? I just had this realization that I think my form sucks and it's the reason my elbows are flaring.
>behind the neck press is not danger- ACK!
>-rous
Damn this guy must be pretty strong to pull that off
ty fir finally posting the complete vid
That's not how the rear delt is oriented or contracts. As a pain specialist I would say tear it up but I don't need any more clients right now.
Stick to rear delt flys, parallel rows, face pulls and static holds.
>as a pain specialist i am hugely educated in the wrong information and i do my duty and nocebo people in to chronic pain trough all the time!
how about behind the neck pulldowns
behind the neck is my fetish
If not being a rear delt exercise means it's underrated as one then good thread, OP.
If you lock out like a snatch then yes, your rear delts are activated.
IMO, I have had rear delts hit like nothing else doing the klokov press (subjective) but it only happens when you lock out like you have done a snatch.
Armpits out - facing forward, head forward through the arms
>shoulder fully flexed, not extended
>muh rear delts are working
learn anatomy
You use the rear delts to pull your arms back behind your neck. Really puts the behind the neck in the behind the neck press.
I am not saying that it's gonna induce much hypertrophy in them though. Maybe with a preexhaust.
Literally all they're doing is holding the shoulder joint in place in a BTN press. Do you do bench for your lats too, because it's the exact same concept.
>he doesnt do Meadow's rows
ngmi
Wide grip doesn't frick your shoulders as a narrower would.
Your rear delt does not attach in a way that any form of overhead pressing activates it in any significant way. It hyperextension the shoulder beyond the midline of the body and transverse abducts the shoulder. It's basically the opposite of the pecs.
>rear delt
LMAO, tell me you're new to working out without telling me you're new to working out. Maybe you should have basic understanding of what each exercise does before posting stupid shit like you know what you're talking about