the sticky is wrong : too much protein

1g per lbs of body weight
1.5 if cutting?!
wtf
the science says that 0.8g per lbs is more than enough. stop spreading bs misinfo
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  1. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    OP is gigavaxxed btw

  2. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    just fricking bad advice and wasting peoples money during this cost of living crisis.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >during this cost of living crisis.
      kek

      Are you aware that this is a permanent decrease in Western economics and that the high standards of living we enjoyed is never coming back and its only gonna get worse?

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's been downhill for a long time, but yeah it's gonna speed up. One minute people will complain soup is 5 dollars a can, then violent gangs will roam the streets, next there will be planes falling out of the sky, and... shit, it's happening!

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          in 2 more weeks, right?

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            >in 2 more weeks, ri-ACK!
            >boeing plane engine lands on anons house

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's been downhill for a long time, but yeah it's gonna speed up. One minute people will complain soup is 5 dollars a can, then violent gangs will roam the streets, next there will be planes falling out of the sky, and... shit, it's happening!

        What's the point of posts like this?

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          What do you mean? In the first post anon made a statement about the current situation, the second post the anon told the other anon that it was not a temporary situation but actually the beginning of a long term situation. He corrected the first anons factual mistake. Not sure what the third post was. What was the point of your post?

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            Just really feminine and whiny, like this site and you zoomers in general.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              maybe take it easy on your toxic masculinity?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      According to this if I go on a cut I have to drink 7 protein shakes a day leaving me with only 280 calories left for real food.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Pro tip: you can get protein from sources other than shakes.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          shakes are the most protein-dense food there is.
          i am currently cutting, my tdee is 2300. i am consuming around 1800 cal daily at around 80 kg bw (180 lb more or less). if i followed this stupid sticky i would need to consume 270 grams of protein each day. this is 3 lbs of chicken breast, 2 kg of skyr or protein shakes. 300 cal is: 75 g of carbs, which is the bare minimum to function and have energy throughout the day OR 35 g of fat, NECESSARY for HORMONE PRODUCTION. i also would need to eat UNSEASONED, BAKED chicken breast or down 2 kg of skyr each day. this info is just stupid

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Not once they are mixed with liquid, no they arent, and nobody eats dry shake mix, so you are incorrect

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              mixing shake mix with water does not influence the calories/protein amount so it is you who is incorrect

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                You referred to the protein density of "shakes". Density is a measurement of volume. Seeing as shake mix is intended to be made into a shake, added liquid is assumed in the definition of "shake", which is what you said, not "shake mix" - since clearly nobody eats dry protein powder. Its not the most protein dense food.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                oh
                i meant density as in grams of protein per kcal

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Either way it's still incorrect most of the time.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            >35 g of fat, NECESSARY for HORMONE PRODUCTION.
            Show me the figures from the reputsble studies that say you need at least 35 grams for hormone production. You can't because you made it up
            >i also would need to eat UNSEASONED, BAKED chicken breast
            No, you wouldn't "need" to do that

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              >No, you wouldn't "need" to do that
              seasoning adds calories. 10 g of dried herbs are around 30-40 cal. add a bit of oil for cooking/baking, a bit of sauce here and there and you got the 100-300 non-protein-kcals the sticky graciously allowed you to have.
              and thr studies you asked for concerning minimal fat intake:

              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10365984/
              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22591906/
              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK234930/
              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31147674/
              i would still like to point out that you made no effort to argue with the fact that the sticky allows you to have 300 cal not from protein which kind of proves that the sticky is in fact useless.
              >verification not required

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Youve disproven nothing I said. Salt, pepper, onion and garlic powder, hot sauces and other things can be used to season thing sliberally and not even break 10 added calories. Sorry you are wrong

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                None of the studies show what youve said which is that it is NECESSARY to consume at least 35 grams of fat a day for PROPER hormone production. Dont make definitive statements if you have no evidence. Thanks.

  3. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I get like .5 lbs per body weight and it's never been an issue

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Same, i usually eat around 80-100 grams at most per day and i weigh 90kg.
      Some days i eat as little as 50 grams and i've never had problems with growth or recovery.
      I can OHP 100kg for 3 clean reps, do Pull ups with 50kg added for 3x5 and squat 190x5
      Taking 200 grams of protein a day if you are natty is unnecessary. I really think supplement companies paid people to repeat this nonsense just to increase sales and profits.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        I get like .5 lbs per body weight and it's never been an issue

        post body

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      post body

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        post body

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Incredible, you don't have an argument AND you're a DYEL so your advice is also meaningless

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            He could be on roids and jacked as hell, it wouldn't matter because the seething black pillers on this board won't concede anything. They'll call him fat, dyel, roidtroon or some combination of all 3. Then they'll start yapping about his hairline, height or some other inane thing. If one of them gets extra upset, he'll make threads multiple times a day for the next 6 months. There's no upside to posting body in a 4chins argument.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              people shut up when someone with a good physique posts body
              people who don't post body don't have a good physique, ergo their advice isn't good.
              you sound like a coping lardass and should post body to prove otherwise, otherwise I'll safely ignore your opinion too.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why would you write an entire post that just makes you look like a b***h? Please answer seriously it makes no sense to me

                post body

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                So I can safely discard your opinion? Got it.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >So I can safely discard your opinion? Got it
                looks like you played yourself lmfao

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              Why would you write an entire post that just makes you look like a b***h? Please answer seriously it makes no sense to me

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >why would you make a post explaining something to a board filled with 85IQ mutts
                you are right, doesn't make sense

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              It doesn’t matter how people respond. If you aren’t dyel, skellington or lardass it proves that you’re not larping as a futness guru and that you at least have ACTUAL experience and not some bullshit you read on a clickbait article. I post body and invariably I’m mocked for something (most recently overdeveloped hip flexors and obliques which is actually true unfortunately) but suddenly no one is disputing my opinion any more. Anyway, post body or stop posting pussy.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >people must maintain the same body for years on end or they have no lifting experience
                >people must take a good picture with a pump and good lighting or they have no lifting experience
                have a nice day you gay homosexual

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          why does big wojak look so sleep deprived

  4. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    0.8g/pound is moronic for two reasons.
    1. It mixes the metric system and United States Customary Units. Pick one.
    2. It is not enough protein. 0.8g/pound was made up by idiots who try to push the plant based agenda. If they were honest with how much protein the human body needs the vegan diet would be dead from the start. But there is a lot of money to be fleeced from morons by pushing the vegan diet, so they push the bad science and lies that the vegan diet is based on.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >It mixes the metric system and United States Customary Units. Pick one
      Just do 2g per kg bodyweight

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >It is not enough protein. 0.8g/pound was made up by idiots who try to push the plant based agenda.
      You fricking brainrotted-boogeyman-idiot.
      It's not from the "plant based agenda" (holy frick you're beyond saving). This number is taken LITERALLY from the diets of olympic athletes. Looking at the ones that have made their training programs public (and are good athletes that won medals), the all consistently have roughly 0.8g/lb of bodyweight in protein consumption per day.

      This also lines up with studies that show that you peak you usage at around 0.72g/lb of protein. 0.8 is a safe number.

      Stop making this a culture war and touch grass, loser.

  5. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I weigh 66kg, bulking up to 75kg. I eat at least 90g of protein from complete sources (don't count non complete protonz). Is this an ok amount of protein ?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      1.5g/kg is probably better.

  6. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    My mom is a dietitian and says >1g/lb of protein is too much, it isn't important as your overall diet.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      your mom needs to fill her diet with my dick if you know what I am saying

  7. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >science says
    The science says .5g/lb is enough newbie, we just say .75g/lb because people unironically would have shit macro spread and not eat enough diverse amino acids with .5g to sustain life.

  8. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    isn't his name literally israelite israel?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Clown world gives many hints.

  9. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    it depends. The sticky is wrong in two ways, but its not really a bad suggestion either. 1g/lb body weight is too much.

    Ideally its 0.71g/lb of lean body mass for true optimal protein, with .85~ being the safer number to go to to account for digestion loss and whatnot.

    All that being said for someone whos casually getting into lifting and fitness, they dont really need optimal results, just good enough and the .71/.8 is for optimal. Also rather than telling people to do math, just 1g per lb is easy enough to remember and will cover all their bases. For the bulkers, 1.5g might help them get the extra calories in. For cutting it should really talk about doing the calc for lean body mass though.

    In the end the info is all out there, if you're relying on the IST sticky and cant be assed to do your own research thats on you. The sticky is fine as a starting place. Sure, its a bit dated but perfectly acceptable for beginners. By the time someone outgrows the sticky they'll already know everything thats wrong with it.

  10. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    The sticky is also like a decade old back when it used to be called health and fitness, I feel sorry for people actually following that shit, wait no I don't it's still funny watching people spin their wheels for a couple years

  11. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I uh... I don't care bout protein, I don't lift (yet)... I'm learning how to walk

  12. 4 days ago
    SwedishBrorsan

    > you eat too much brotein
    > picture of israelite.png

  13. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >1g per lbs of body weight
    >the science says that 0.8g per lbs is more than enough

    Do you honestly believe that 0.2g per lbs is going to make a monumental difference?

  14. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, even 1g of protein per pound is too much. Why the frick would you eat more protein on a cut is beyond me.

  15. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    >bodyweight in imperial
    >protein in metric
    Are mutts really that moronic?

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >AIIIEEEE TWO DIFFERENT MEASURING SYSTEMS!!!! SAVE ME!!!
      The power of the yooropoor mind

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >According to the 1959 International Yard and Pound agreement imperial measurements are defined in metric.
        You mutts are a walking embodiment of cuckoldry. You claim that your system is superior yet you use metric regulary. Grow up and embrace the perfection that is the one true system.
        >muh 9x19mm, 5.56x45mm, 120mm M829A4
        >muh 0.8g of protein
        Point at them an laugh.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Hola señor

  16. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the science says
    The science told you to eat at least 1100 calores of bread a day

  17. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    i just do what the examine protein calculator tells me to do.
    i'm a fatso, so 1.2 to 1.5 g/kg

  18. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    qtddtot

    I eat approximately 1500kcal/100g protein a day and lift 3x/cardio 2x week and am already plateau'd after losing 6lb despite being 30lb above my normal body weight. What do I do? I'm mostly sedentary in a remote job. Am I sabotaging my weight loss by being too low below maintenance calories? I legit do not understand how it's possible to be hungry nearly all the time and not lose weight after a week.

  19. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a can of skipjack tuna compared with a popular protein powder if you scale the tuna to the same calories as the protein powder (a third of a can more), you have 26 grams of protein in the tuna verses 24 in the protein powder. You are wrong.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      man I wish I didn't hate canned tuna. Tuna steak is delicious but so expensive. Canned tuna just tastes foul to me. I'll just chickenmaxx. 2 big chicken breasts is like 125g protein anyway.

  20. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day FRICKING israelite

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