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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    And I'm one of them. I don't drink calories except melk

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Milk has sugar in it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lactose is different than sucrose

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The ending "-ose" signifies that it is part of a group called "sugars"
          >lactose
          >sucrose
          >glucose
          >fructose
          >maltose
          >dextrose
          >galactose

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      A glass of orange juice has as much sugar as a can of Pepsi. Really only good for growing children, people recovering from sickness/eating disorders/scurvy/etc, and Kripparian.
      I'm with

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Really only good for growing children, people recovering from sickness/eating disorders/scurvy/etc, and Kripparian.
        So 99% of IST then.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont like the flavor + i am type juan diabeetus

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're telling me that if you just eat fruit or drink juice alone, not combined with other foods in a whole meals, you get an insulin spike and want to fall asleep?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        ??? what
        no
        insulin is what i need to prevent a blood glucose spike

        what are they teaching you people in schools these days

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Whatever, just ignore the scientific part and answer the question. Do you become sleepy after eating fruit or drinking juice on it's own?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            no?
            where are you coming from with these questions im genuinely curious
            i mean if i take way too much insulin i'll get "sleepy" (comatose)

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm trying to understand your original comment. How is a type 1 diabetic affected by juice?
              I am not talking about what happens in the body with hormones and stuff but what you actually feel.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh okay
                If I take the proper amount of insulin then I won't feel anything
                if I dont take any and leave it unchecked after a while i'll start feeling symptoms of high blood glucose
                For me, those symptoms usually are being thirsty, having to piss a lot, weird taste in my mouth, and/or a weird swelling/tightness in my chest (Idk how to describe it and no one else with T1D seems to have this symptom either)
                The last symptom is the one i feel first even when I dont have terribly high blood glucose

                Now that doesn't mean OJ (and other sugary drinks) is entirely evil
                If I take too much insulin or do physical exercise I get low blood glucose, which can be fixed by drinking or eating something
                I prefer drinks just because the body absorbs it faster

                I know you specifically didnt ask for it but for further clarification it basically goes
                OJ has carbohydrates > the body breaks carbs down into glucose (used by the body as energy) > glucose enters blood stream > insulin lets glucose into the body's cells
                the problem arises when the body doesn't produce insulin and thus can't absorb glucose, so it just floats around in the blood stream tearing up shit (blood vessels, kidneys, nerves, eyes, etc.)

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh okay thank you.
                As far the carbs part, I've read a lot of stuff of Ray Peat and his idea is that basically the fructose part of sucrose that's found in fruit and juices helps metabolise the glucose without the need for an insulin spike.
                So for you, would you take the same amount of insulin before a starchy meal and before snacking on fruit (if you do that) ?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >So for you, would you take the same amount of insulin before a starchy meal and before snacking on fruit (if you do that) ?
                Most of the time, no
                A baked potato and a helping of pasta, for example, are each like 30-40g of carbs, so a meal consisting of stuff like that can easily be at or over 100g of carbs, which then requires more insulin to prevent high blood glucose (usually taken 15 or so minutes before a meal)
                Fruits like apples and bananas don't have as much, I usually treat them as having 20g of carbs each
                Meats barely affect blood glucose, if at all, which is nice
                The body can still make glucose from meats (or my body if i dont eat, as it breaks itself down to fuel itself) but its far less than carbs can provide
                Vegetables tend to be lower in carbs than fruits
                Every food is different

                If you're wondering why i know so much, its partly due to me be genuinely curious about my curse but its mostly because I hate the stigma (most of which doesnt even apply to us) type 2 diabetics give us

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                So you adjust the insulin dose based on the amount of carbs, without necessarily differentiating between starches and sugars.
                I'm just saying because even though I'm not diabetic, I remember back when my diet was high starch I would feel sleepy a bit after eating a big serving of pasta even when it was served with cheese.
                Like, in terms of feeling good, for me it's fruit>rice>other starches.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, more or less
                Starches release carbs slower into the blood than sugars so how I need to take insulin can vary
                Pizza is notorious because it is not only very starchy but also has cheese, so thats a lot of carbs over a long time
                No idea why you felt tired though
                One of the symptoms of blood sugar dropping quickly or being low is a feeling of weakness/drowsiness, so I guess your body reacting to all those carbs could have done that

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Orange just makes me feel sick and does something to my stomach that causes some kind of issue.

    I would rather just eat oranges, which I do, everyday

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Indeed, it makes more sense to just eat fruits. That way you at least have some fiber to slow down sugar absorption. I prefer vegetable juices anyway.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I drink a large glass every morning with 2x 200mg caffeine pills. Lots of pulp, very nice.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i start the day with a fresh oj because i follow the teachings of the prophet ray peat

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mmmm i want to eat those ice cubes so bad

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm on OMAD, I eat or drink anything, I don't give a fuck unless it's vegetable oil or toxic metal poisoning.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Of course not, I am peatpilled

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a good bridge for getting off of soda, it's not terrible for you so much as it is inessential
    Lol lmao in advance at the retards who are going to argue that it's just as bad

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