>there is no difference between training to failure and stopping a couple of reps before failure

>there is no difference between training to failure and stopping a couple of reps before failure

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When you are roiding it doesn't even matter what you do, you'll grow either way.
    Natties listening to roiding grifters and lifting more than 3 times a week only to end up DYELs always gives me a chuckle.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      His advice is for natties. My best gains came from doing high volume PPL.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >roidtroony in charge of telling natties how to work out
        lol

        >lifting more than 3 times a week only to end up DYELs
        t. starting strength fatty

        t. not pushing himself enough

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Push the fork away enough, fatty

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Failure is failure.

        Let's see those gains.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >PPL
        Lmao post body

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Suggest a superior routine so I can laugh

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Brosplit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >lifting more than 3 times a week only to end up DYELs
      t. starting strength fatty

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >roided grifter
      His entire job that he has a PhD for does not make him a grifter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I have a piece of paper stating that I know these things so that means I'm 100% right

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No you’re right. Next time you need surgery I’ll just hire a bum off the street. It’s all the same right?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The surgeon doesn't roid doe

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I mean the bum has probably killed less people. If you teach him surgery first and he's not on drugs then it's cool with me.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Next time you need surgery I’ll just hire a bum off the street. It’s all the same right?
            Would you hire a surgeon or some moron with an academic phd?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            why would I need a surgery? I ain't gonna cut off my penis like you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Exercise science is a joke. Nowhere near as reputable as medical science

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >roidtroony in charge of telling natties how to work out
      lol

      [...]
      t. not pushing himself enough

      lets see your physique lardo

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You should print this post in a peace of wood and shove it in the ass of every natty menzergay, maybe they will understand like this

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mentzer specifically said that his approach was ideal for natties since they don't have the recovery ability of roiders. But you're too lazy to read from the source and prefer to base your opinion on tik tok videos

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >they don't have the recovery ability of roiders
          I train six days a week (seventh day is dedicated cardio), and the key for natty is lift to failure, eat a lot, and sleep a lot.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He has a phD in his field, teaches it professionally, and is openly on steroids and even talks about their use and tailors advice depending on whether or not you are natty.
      It's honestly hard to imagine a way he could possibly be less of a grifter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        phD from where?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol no. I started doing myo reps (getting to failure or close to it, resting 5-10 seconds and pumping another 5-8 reps) made my gains blow up like crazy.
      Also, 5x day Arnie split

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >my gains blow up like crazy.
        I started doing Y and my shit just blew up

        lmao, never do they post any before and after

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah myo reps are a great addition

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Watching a manlet roidtroony "doctor" with a degree from a Black person school

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This LITERALLY isn't RP's stance

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is their stance?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Training to failure nets you slightly more gains at an unreasonable cost to fatigue, injury, and recovery.

        Also, RP programs have you training to failure on the last week of the training cycle before a deload.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          that's not "his stance" either. It's him repeating the results of a study. Too bad Sam Sulek broke the study by doing reps PAST failure and now keeping 1 or 2 reps in reserve is fricking meaningless! Who cares if it's almost equal to training to failure? We partial maxing past failure! Even Mike Mentzer trained his clients for one set PAST failure.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Who cares what people running grams of gear do?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah bro, your little 175 lb scrawny twink DYEL ass who benches 190 lb should adopt practices by a gymcel who permablasts 1g+ of tren nonstop

            You’re so fricking stupid. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE when you’re a natty cuckold who benches 190 lb????? Talk about a waste of fricking time

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Continuing on this: 95% of the DYEL natty homosexuals are talking about shit that literally means nothing for them

              >uhh bro volume???
              > no bro go to failure!!!
              >the pump is a meme!!!

              If you bench less than 225 for 10 reps NONE OF THIS MATTERS. Dudes Fo 8 sets a week then try to talk about minmaxing LOL.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Training to failure nets you slightly more gains at an unreasonable cost to fatigue, injury, and recovery.
          See I just don’t get it. When I train any muscle I do 4 exercises, each with 4 sets. Each and every single rep to failure, and beyond within partials, and with each last failure ISO hold for 10 seconds. Always modifying the weight so I can do around 8-16 reps the whole way down.
          I get nice and sore the next day, but never the day after that, so no matter what I can always train that muscle again after 48 hours, which my program doesn’t even call for.
          I don’t understand how anyone who has been lifting for more than just a couple months can be so sore that it impacts their training frequency.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No one is expecting it to happen every time and immediately. Just like muscle growth, proneness to injury happens gradually.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ah see most anons here haven't trained at all or with very low intensity. They don't understand that you can adapt to failure like everything else. I take every set to failure and the only time I've had troubke with recovery was when I was on a cut or slept like shit.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I do not believe you. I've trained to near failure with several sets, I've trained so light that it only nets one effective rep per set and then did upwards of 20 sets like that, and I've trained to failure with few sets. No matter what, if it ended up being enough stimulus to hypertrophy, and in all three cases it can, I got sore. And that soreness lasts longer the stronger you get. It was 48 hours when I started. It lasts around a week now.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Something is wrong buddy, DOMS do not last a week. Anything past day 4 shows you have overtrained and recovery is impeding your gains

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Something is wrong
                Yeah, you. If it were possible to do that and recover in 48 hours we'd all be freaks progressing our lifts 700 times a year.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did 10 sets of biceps on 12/28 including past failure slow eccentrics and I still have DOMS and most likely will still have some soreness tomorrow. My chest is still sore from 7 sets on the pec deck machine from 12/29. PLEASE tell me I’m a noob lifter or “SoMeThInG iS wRoNg” while I lift 2/3/4/5 and also am on 240m test a week.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Some people just have shitty recovery genetics, it’s really not so much of a bad thing though, not unless you train the same muscle 3-4 times a week. If you’re just training each muscle twice a week, it’s perfectly okay if it takes your body multiple days to recover from doms

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is for most people trying to stop 2-3 reps away from failure is actually more like 6-8 reps away from failure nectar they can't judge intensity. Going to literal failure is difficult for most exercises at moderate or higher reps.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm doing one of his routines and I enjoy it a lot. I don't really mind if it's suboptimal.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but when you train to failure you know for sure it was a good workout.
    If you train with 3 reps in reserve, chances are there was more reps in reserve than you think

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      so true. trying to keep 2 reps in reserve progress was slow. said frick it put 10% more on bar and did as many reps but last rep was grinder. trhis explains why guys like Arnie or Nubret trained with frickton of volume. so much volme that they often pased mid training to eat a meal.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is a difference but who gives a shit? Hypertrophy is the same thing no matter how you achieve it. The actual problem with Isratel is his wildly imprecise effective volume grift and having people who aren't playing sports use periodization.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How would you do it without periodisation?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You just get the amount of volume your muscle needs to undergo hypertrophy and then rest it until you can do it again.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Intensity is the main driver of hypertrophy, not volume

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What causes hypertrophy is muscular tension and it needs to be of a certain intensity and volume.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >certain intensity
              Max
              >and volume
              1 set

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure if it's with like 3 different lifts for said muscle.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure if it's with like 3 different lifts for said muscle.

                Although that's not really the full picture. It could be 1 lift 1 set if you're not too big yet or it could be a lot more if you're a roided mass monster. Like Mike said though your recovery takes longer as you get stronger. It's because it takes more to induce hypertrophy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >your recovery takes longer as you get stronger
                You can adapt to recovery. If this was actually true then newbie DOMS would only get worse and worse as you become more trained, but that's clearly not true.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your recovery ability stops adapting long before you reach your potential strength.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              ...which is different from person to person (=genetics)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not really, no.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cutler
                Yates
                Coleman

                You lost

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I watched a video recently where Ronnie Coleman said he ate 600gs of protein every day and he shit 5-6 times a day.

                Being a roid troony seems so fricking gay. Like literally homosexual. Like you enjoy things constantly coming out of your ass and touching your butthole all day.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >volume
              You're referring to time under tension, which doesn't matter. The magnitude of the tension is the only thing that matters.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you robbed someone at gunpoint and he gave you all his money, shooting him afterwards wouldn't net you more money.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    hey mike israelite u dropped something

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's a israelite, that's all you need to know

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sick of this current volume fad. does not work good. literal 5x5 cheat curls with slow eccentric are better than 4×12 pumpshit with mind muscle connection. most efficient way is one set of heavy weight for 6-12 reps and then you might include low effort pumper set if reps were under 8 on hard set.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Youd better be atleast stage ready 220+ lean single digits bf or shut the frick up

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dr mike @nuke gaza@ Iraetel

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's right, what matters is stimulation.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The roids really hit him hard.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine taking advice from (doctor) israelite "moronation tampon" Israel.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    At this point I'm just going to keep doing 1-2 sets per exercise going to failure then doing some partials. Much more fun, & brief, than this Mike Israetel stuff

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based on an average 10-12 rep per set
    First set = warm up
    Second set = challenge your muscle
    Third set = failure
    __________________________________
    > after this line u're not getting anymore gains and require more time to recover
    ----------------------------------------------------
    Fourth set = if u're smart u do a dropset, otherwise u start ego lifting with bad technique
    Sixth = imitating ur fav fraudertuber
    Seven = at this point u're looking for injury
    Anything beyond= muscle is completely depleted from glycogen and catabolizing itself for energy

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >did a massive wet shit
    >really want to wipe my arse
    >realise i never read a study which concluded it's good to wipe a shitty arse (P>0.05)
    >trust the science, pull up my draws and leave

    sometimes it's hard to be a science-based practitioner

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's juicing his credentials for views and program sales. Roid and/or train hard, that's literally it. Ooooooptimizing with a gorillion studies won't give natties roider gains. Notice how his videos are "exercise basedenbreasts critiques random famous guy's exercise, IT'S LE BAD!".

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Idk I just can't trust someone with literally the word Israel in their name

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    that statement is based on a study that compared training to failure (zero reps left in the tank) with training to 1-3 reps left in the tank- The outcome was no noticable differences.
    My critique on that study is that 1-3 reps is close enough to failure and there is also a big difference between 1, 2 and 3 left in the tank. So imo the braket is not chosen well.
    When people say you need to train to failure its usually aimed at your typical gym goer who fell into complacency and hasnt challenged himself in years, doing the same stuff over and over again with no progress, or its guys who tried high volume but it didnt work. In these cases try till failure and see if it gets you back on track.
    This isnt a ideological struggle, anons. you can train till failure or not as long as it works its fine

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    saw him on a podcast high af. He is such a weird and unhappy guy, just like many of his...fellows.
    Neurotic, intelligent, but ultimately incredibly stupid in countless ways, especially spiritually.
    Reason why metaphorical evil favores this personality type so much

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >blast grams of gear
    >look like hideous creature
    >heal at supernatural rates (foreskins and gear)
    >it doesnt really matter what you do if you blast like me

    science based lifting

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