>Only fatties can do it
I was aboutta reply all angrily to this thread, but you got me on that. I was benching 3pl8 when I weighed 215 lbs (so 97.5 kg). I was a Morbiusly obese 17-year-old at the time. Loved lifting, hated putting the fork down. Still don't even know where I would get roids.
I'm 6ft tall (have been since I was 13) so that meant that by BMI I wasn't obese which is why I disagree with BMI. It is WAY too nice to fatties. BMI 23 is unironically borderline obese.
Natty 4pl8 bencher here. Bench and upper body does well with more volume/frequency than lower. Eat more, lift more, get sleep.
This. I was doing 10x10 of 185 lbs on bench 4 days a week in the month and a half leading up to me getting 3pl8.
>I know everyone on the internet has a 4 plate bench
The people that are most likely to be very strong are likely to frequent online lifting forums. The outliers are the ones that are most likely to post their massive lifts. Everyone else stays silent. The survivorship bias shows that most or many people can get 3pl8 bench, but it's simply not true.
>If you’re capable of benching 315 you’re stronger than around 99.96% of all men in the USA >If you’re capable of benching 315 you’re stronger than around 98.50% of all male weightlifters in the gyms in the USA, which makes you the top 1.5% (at least, assuming VERY liberal demographic data) >About 1-3 in 100 male gym goers in America are capable of bench pressing 2 plates. (1 in 1000 globally) >About 1 in 3000 male gym goers are capable of benching 3 plates
I'll second this. I was one of 2 guys at my high school with a 3pl8 bench that I knew of. Other one had played football all 4 years (I didn't play it at all) and weighed somewhere in the ballpark of 265 lbs.
Is this sort of relationship still obtainable in the current year? This is literally all I want. I want to fall in love with a woman, get married, and then basically check out for the rest of my days, happy to live alongside her until I die. I feel like women have become brainwashed into thinking too highly of themselves for this to ever be possible again.
>2 years lifting >2 years on juice >2 years to hit 3pl8 bench
The power of steroids I guess. Those are some absolute trash lifting genetics you got my man. I'd do steroids if I was in your position too. Do you lie to normies and say that you do wii fit and zumba to get yoked?
huge cope tho. I know everyone on the internet has a 4 plate bench, but irl it's rare to see people hitting 2 plates fo reps. 3plates is almost elite at my bw.
and yes, of course I claim fake natty. I just say I take creatine and vits and go to the gym 3x a week
Why? Seriously what motivates people like you to be such dishonest fucks? Why intentionally demoralize everyone around you instead of trying to uplift others? Is it deep insecurity? Daddy issues?
Im not that guy but Im a "fake natty" as well. Its really like a first rule of fight club thing. To most of the population roids are super taboo, and if they dont know anything about fitness theyll believe Jay Cutler is natty if someone told them he was. For people who go to the gym and dont roid, it just gets them butthurt a lot of the time when they find out you juice and they get all passive aggressive and weird. So its like if they even need to ask they dont understand how roids work lol. Nobody natty could look like me so if you believe it when I say it its your fault. Also I genuinely wouldnt recommend its a self destructive lifestyle but I 100% want to do it and accept the risks. Then theres shit like my grandma doesnt need to know i take tren lmao
My friend who's been exercising for years and is huge thinks Chris Hemsworth is achievable natty. My friend is a fucking doctor and a smart guy otherwise. If he thinks Hemsworth is achievable natty, it's understandable regular Joe on the street thinks you can become a World of Warcraft character if you just pick very heavy things from the ground enough times.
Hollywood has to make up fairytales too for some reason. I got 65 lbs of muscle in 8 weeks because I put on electrodes to stim my muscles and ate brocoli with chicken a lot you guys. Yeah right. What Hemsworth or the Rock achieved is still impressive even with them roiding. But they have to make believe about their top secret training regimen that is definitely not injecting huge amounts of hormones.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Chris Hemsworth is achievable natty
His physique is achievable natty. Did Chris do it natty? Not a chance
I mean I wouldnt bring it up but if someone asked me I think I would be honest about it. Although I dont roid to be fair so I dont know what its like.
you're deep in the cope zone my friend. I'm not a massmonster freak btw, I juice mostly for strength. I have never seen a natty with impressive delts
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idgaf about others. they tried to pull me down as well. ( "you're going to the gym too much" " you look too muscular" "stop fretting about your diet" yada yada) do I owe honesty to such people? I'm honest to my lifting bro tho
You dont owe them anything but behavior like that should make you feel superior because people only behave like that out of jealousy.
Im not that guy but Im a "fake natty" as well. Its really like a first rule of fight club thing. To most of the population roids are super taboo, and if they dont know anything about fitness theyll believe Jay Cutler is natty if someone told them he was. For people who go to the gym and dont roid, it just gets them butthurt a lot of the time when they find out you juice and they get all passive aggressive and weird. So its like if they even need to ask they dont understand how roids work lol. Nobody natty could look like me so if you believe it when I say it its your fault. Also I genuinely wouldnt recommend its a self destructive lifestyle but I 100% want to do it and accept the risks. Then theres shit like my grandma doesnt need to know i take tren lmao
Honestly this is fair but just goes to show how people are fucking stupid because I would get way more mad seeing someone looking like Jay Cutler or even Chris Hemsworth level claim natty. Its very easy to see when someones body isnt naturally attainable if you have any fitness knowledge.
Right? It just makes the insecure betas even more insecure. I put on 60lbs natty in 3 years of lifting, including Olympic lifting. Now I run simple cycles of Sust and Dbol, and I'm a fucking monster in the strength department. I also don't look like a massfreak either. People who talk shit have never really pushed thier limits, and have no idea how steroids work. >You take a magic shot and magic pills and just automatically get muh muscles der der der
Kek, if you understood the work that goes into it you would stfu. I kill myself in the gym. The test just makes it so I can train longer/harder and recover faster.
Also I love how most people think "bench" is the end all be all to how strong you are. Tell me what you clean, dead lift, or push press if you wanna be strong
you're deep in the cope zone my friend. I'm not a massmonster freak btw, I juice mostly for strength. I have never seen a natty with impressive delts
https://i.imgur.com/MM76ytO.jpg
Why? Seriously what motivates people like you to be such dishonest fucks? Why intentionally demoralize everyone around you instead of trying to uplift others? Is it deep insecurity? Daddy issues?
idgaf about others. they tried to pull me down as well. ( "you're going to the gym too much" " you look too muscular" "stop fretting about your diet" yada yada) do I owe honesty to such people? I'm honest to my lifting bro tho
>I know everyone on the internet has a 4 plate bench
The people that are most likely to be very strong are likely to frequent online lifting forums. The outliers are the ones that are most likely to post their massive lifts. Everyone else stays silent. The survivorship bias shows that most or many people can get 3pl8 bench, but it's simply not true.
>If you’re capable of benching 315 you’re stronger than around 99.96% of all men in the USA >If you’re capable of benching 315 you’re stronger than around 98.50% of all male weightlifters in the gyms in the USA, which makes you the top 1.5% (at least, assuming VERY liberal demographic data) >About 1-3 in 100 male gym goers in America are capable of bench pressing 2 plates. (1 in 1000 globally) >About 1 in 3000 male gym goers are capable of benching 3 plates
Probably. Even with roids a lot of people wouldn't reach 3pl8. You might not be the world's strongest man, but you could be up there in terms of your capability to be strong
she grew harsh, distant, and cold because you are a beta bitch with no self respect. She was also certainly fucking someone else that had a better mentality
>he doesnt know thats how women work
If a chick goes cold or gets mean out of nowhere shes either fucking someone else or mentally preparing to fuck someone else
I’m sorry to hear about your experience with disloyal women cheating on their husbands. Please don’t take this as a black pill and assume that most women are like this and that you’ll never find a woman who reciprocates your love.
I wish you well brother — Salam
Don't know where you're from, but around HALF of MARRIED women cheat on their husbands. The numbers are likely a lot higher in the non-married population. Western women are scum.
Its ok I got myself a great NOT AMERICAN gf now and its great and I never had any doubt of her faithfulness. White American women are mentally fucked 100% of them
>or gets mean out of nowhere
When I let my gf go to the gym she got thin and hot but she started shit talking to me when we have an argument and she won’t shut the fuck up. She will even make fun of me and told me that my physique is not that great and I should put more work in. She showed me some pics of guys in her it with more better physique than me (I mogged them tho) so I don’t know if she did it on purpose. The other day we were taking a walk and she was saying ‘I love my small man’
I was like Wtf, she wants to have kids with me tho
Idk
I’m nta but I’m letting you know i suspect it’s a low quality bot or troll by a low iq person. I feel like it could be bait if it was a bit more believable.
That's not a cuck fantasy. That's simply how women operate. They don't break up with someone just so they can be alone (MOST of the time), as this will make them look like a ruthless cold whore. They will stay with someone and then meet someone that they think is superior. Then they will start hanging out with that new guy and they may or may not be fucking him (extremely likely that this is happening). Then they will treat their official boyfriend like shit so that he will WANT to leave her.
If this goes on long enough then she will find a way to get rid of him (generally) rather than having to break it off herself (to maintain a social image and also to give her boyfriend an opportunity to redeem his honor and status), because they want to feel like a good person, but in order to feel like a good person they can't just straight up abandon someone. So all of the little tiny things that she can find to belittle her boyfriend that she no longer thinks is manly or good enough for her, she will begin to use as ammunition in order to cut him down. Then she might try to cleverly play social scenarios in order to make him look like an absolute piece of shit, try to case him up, try to make other people fight him, etc.
They do all of this in an effort to preserve their image and their own false sense of integrity. Anyone that has been around the block a time or two can vouch for this. They've either been the guy that this happens to or the guy that's fucking the chick while watching this play out.
I was the guy that was treated like trash and put into retarded situations like that because my gf at the time met dudes she thought was better. She really started whoring out when we moved closer to a bigger city. More males and hornier males = more competition and thus more of an incentive to whore around. The increased amount of male attention from absolute dogs made her start treating me like trash for hypergamy's sake. She would constantly fuck with me and insult me. Toward the end of things, she was literally a non-stop bitch for weeks on end. I could only take so much. Smacked the fuck out of her. Got to watch her laying on the ground, crying like a bitch. Went to jail for it and got kicked out of ~~*our apartment*~~ Never again will I share space with a woman unless I can tell her to gtfo at any time. It was very satisfying and I would 100% do it again if I ever saw her again. If the bitch is here reading this, I'll cut your fucking head off if I ever see you again.
Now I realize just how awful women are in general. Many of them are like this due to western social pressures and the availability of dick at the drop of a hat in addition to the fact that it's illegal to attempt to prevent this from happening in any way. I treat them like trash and they think I'm a top pick, because of the dark triad personality traits. Cruelty and competence are correlated, as you can't be a bastard, at least not for very long without also being competent, which is a good genetic pick. Went full red pill on the whole thing. I've fucked married women that treat their husbands the same way I was treated. I've seen every part of the equation and seen how it plays out from beginning to end. It's pretty bleak. The muslims are right. The progressive western ideologies are destroying the potential for the stable family unit
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Smacked the fuck out of her. Got to watch her laying on the ground, crying like a bitch >It was very satisfying and I would 100% do it again
She was right. You are a weak man who cannot control his monster. Pathetic display of strength.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Why did God make us stronger than women, if he did not want us to smack them when they get outta line.
2 months ago
Anonymous
To protect them from the harms of the world, including ourselves. Someone in life has to bear the burden of reality. Women should not know the ills of the world so they can stay naive and playful for us and our future children.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Women should not know the ills of the world so they can stay naive and playful for us and our future children.
Well, they are that now.
It's never been easier to be a Women, and look at this hellscape they have made on the world.
2 months ago
Anonymous
If you need to assert physical dominance, it's easy to do without actually hurting her. Get creative. Or just wrestle her to the ground. You don't need to beat her. That's like slapping a child around.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It's still domestic violence if she says it is, you get arrested either way and you're guilty until proven innocent because a woman made the accusation.
Only winning move is not to play. Or move to a 3rd world country.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Bitch had it coming
It's still domestic violence if she says it is, you get arrested either way and you're guilty until proven innocent because a woman made the accusation.
Only winning move is not to play. Or move to a 3rd world country.
>Only winning move is not to play
100% this. I'm not playing the game again until I can play it on my own terms, which is essentially having 100% capability to kick a bitch out or ghost her at the drop of a hat if this shit starts to happen.
I was the guy that was treated like trash and put into retarded situations like that because my gf at the time met dudes she thought was better. She really started whoring out when we moved closer to a bigger city. More males and hornier males = more competition and thus more of an incentive to whore around. The increased amount of male attention from absolute dogs made her start treating me like trash for hypergamy's sake. She would constantly fuck with me and insult me. Toward the end of things, she was literally a non-stop bitch for weeks on end. I could only take so much. Smacked the fuck out of her. Got to watch her laying on the ground, crying like a bitch. Went to jail for it and got kicked out of ~~*our apartment*~~ Never again will I share space with a woman unless I can tell her to gtfo at any time. It was very satisfying and I would 100% do it again if I ever saw her again. If the bitch is here reading this, I'll cut your fucking head off if I ever see you again.
Now I realize just how awful women are in general. Many of them are like this due to western social pressures and the availability of dick at the drop of a hat in addition to the fact that it's illegal to attempt to prevent this from happening in any way. I treat them like trash and they think I'm a top pick, because of the dark triad personality traits. Cruelty and competence are correlated, as you can't be a bastard, at least not for very long without also being competent, which is a good genetic pick. Went full red pill on the whole thing. I've fucked married women that treat their husbands the same way I was treated. I've seen every part of the equation and seen how it plays out from beginning to end. It's pretty bleak. The muslims are right. The progressive western ideologies are destroying the potential for the stable family unit
>She really started whoring out when we moved closer to a bigger city
i don't understand this, how are you not a cuck if you knew this was happening and did nothing over it? you could have broken up when you found out she was cheating, but instead you raged out because you were getting verbally owned on the daily?
i feel like it's likely you were overly paranoid about that idea (with no proof of actual cheating). she was probably badgering you to improve yourself/your mindset but nothing was working because you settled with yourself happily before the new environment. in such a situation, telling you about attention from guys would probably have been a way to light a fire under your ass through jealousy. it sounds like she didn't give up on you for as long as possible and then you beat the shit out of her when she asked you to do something while you were playing your nintendo switch for hours again.
maybe that's not true at all and you really did have an ice cold psycho bpd cheating gf. but either way, if you don't want your gf/wife to nag you like your mother then don't put her in that position by letting yourself go to shit in whatever irresponsible ways
I did break it off with her in the end, I had no problem just letting it slide. The problem was that we lived together and she would still fuck with me even after we were done because even though we technically weren't together she still wanted me wrapped around her finger and she hated that I could just dismiss her and be completely fine with it as if she never existed. She claimed she never was fucking other dudes, but I strongly believe she was just lying. She was going off with a bunch of dudes all the time and was hanging off of them, basically groping them constantly. Neighbors and friends reported this. Saw it first hand on her bday when she wanted to go to the bar with one of her cocks. She was sitting on him and feeling him up. I crawled her ass about it later and she pulled the whole, "I didn't know lol" bullshit.
I didn't play video games. I wasn't lazy. I went to work, saved my money, came home, cooked food, cleaned my house, and essentially went to sleep. She didn't even want to entertain the idea of how we could work together to get out of some shitty ass hole in the wall apartment. She blew her money on fucking bullshit like vapid entertainment and drugs I'm assuming. I know she at least was smoking a fuck ton of weed with her loser ass friends. We never saw each other because I worked second and she worked first. We were more like estranged roommates than partners. She had no desire to make it work. None whatsoever.
Pretty sure she just got bored is all. She got bored and wanted to be with other people that were comfortable blowing all of their money on whatever shiny object consoomerist bullshit they were into at the time and then fuck her.
I guess the crux of it was that I wanted a life partner that would grow with me and wanted to actually create a family and do something productive. She only wanted to ride the carousel and amuse herself with whatever meaningless bullshit she wanted at any given time.
2 months ago
Anonymous
so you were beating your sense of maturity into her? i dunno, man. doesn't sound like you really committed to breaking up at any point since you were still at each other like that while being roommates. obviously the lease wasn't the thing stopping you since you probably went to jail for the duration of it. perhaps a good lesson in reading the writing on the wall and getting out at whatever costs instead of hurting yourself/others in various ways.
2 months ago
Anonymous
This was like 5-6 years ago. I've cooled off a lot since then. I would probably go out of my way to avoid her forever if I knew where she was today. The whole thing was a shitshow. I was locked out of my own house and had to climb in to get my stuff when I got out of jail, which I later found out was illegal (even if it was my own house), which could have landed me in prison if anyone saw and reported it. There was a temporary restraining order placed on me immediately so I was effectively banned from my own house and job. We worked at the same place, but on different shifts. Even if she wasn't there I still wasn't allowed to go in because that's technically her place of employment. Got fired, lost the right to be at the apartment, went to jail, was on probation for a year.
If my own car was working at the time I would have just left, but I was saving up some money to get it worked on or to get the parts to do it myself. Even so, it would have been better and smarter to just move in with one of my family members and get a job somewhere else and leave it all behind.
It all culminated in the dumbest pettiest most retarded way too. She had given me a cover because she purchased a new set for herself. I came in one day to see her using it and said, "I didn't say you could use my cover". So she just got up and tossed the fucker in the dumpster. I go out to grab it. She then rushes back to the door to try to lock me out, but I get there just in time to stop the door from closing. Then she just starts going through the house destroying my shit. When I saw her doing that I just lost it and smacked the fuck out of her like 6 times, until she fell to the ground crying. I told her to shut the fuck up and started getting ready to go to jail since I knew that's where I was going anyway. Saw her in court once more after that and never again. Life has been so peaceful since that cunt went on her way. I hope she has nightmares and PTSD. I don't regret it at all.
>They've either been the guy that this happens to or the guy that's fucking the chick while watching this play out.
I have been on both sides (mostly the cucked side) because im an LTR dude ngl here. I was always the guy who had 3 years relationships without cheating and being loyal etc. Now im 30 and i low key regret that i don't ahve kids or got married yet becuase i wasted a lot of time with these hoes.
I will tell you one thing.. a woman is NEVER NEVER NEVER single. Literally Never. You either steal her from someone else or you take her from the talking stage of like 10 dudes. A woman can never be alone, its in their nature. Even my bpd ex who still stalks me to this day I'm sure she fucked somebody else. So if your ex is calling you right now, just be sure she had another dick in her before you take her back. Take the blackpill brahs
i was the one to break it off cuck. she is at my door twice a day begging me to take her back. Loving her doesn't mean i have to be tolerant with her actions. fuc off now
never ever i felt sad about a breakup because i have a huge ego so when she grows cold i lose interest...
>i have a huge ego so when she grows cold i lose interest...
same but i loved her, she doesn't know tho im cold af
something about BBC
get on no fap....NOW
Anyway bros i just cebrated my dads bday with a burger and fries and tommorow my cut starts. i will be insane
Lmao I've never been broken up with, always the one breaking up. I even divorced my ex a few years back. I've broken up with my current fiance like five times but she fights to get me back which I respect so I'm marrying her
...Huh? Natty here. I can rep 250... I can probably ORM close to 3pl8, and I've only been training for about a year straight. It's definitely going to happen eventually, and I've even had injuries before.
Dude I can do that without even trying, but then doing a pushup for me is like repping 200 lbs. I really don't got to the gym, but I did 100 pushups a day challenge a couple of times when I was up to 270. Currently down to 230, kept my strength. Just do weighted pushups and do the 100 pushup a day challenge and fucking eat good, retard
I got a 3pl8 bench natty at age 32, but I also weighed probably 220 when I did it. Most roiders aren’t hittin BP or the other compound lifts that often. I did this by benching every 4-5 days while doing accessory exercises like weighted pulls ups.
It actually is an instance of genetics of getting a 3pl8 bench or more.
I've seen guys who lift for year but never even hit 2 pl8s.
If they modified their training and technique they probably could eventually.
Anyways, some people can do it natty with hard work but it will take many years.
There is zero possibility you can do it with less than 5 years of lifting.
I believe the roiders, but natty 3pl8 is insane and close to peak human strength. I mean it's possible, there are some strong autists on here, but yeah the chanes aren't very good
He's been training for around a decade, and doing it nearly 100% correctly for around 50-75% of the time. When people talk about the "natty limit" of 3-5 years, they mean 3-5 years of nearly 100% correct training, which nearly nobody does
guy is old as shit, looks like a foot in the grave
natties be like >hurr durr I hit 315 after 20 years of lifting
I hit 4 pl8s on my first year of tren
completely depends on your starting point
if you're starting at 5'7 with 130lbs of lean body mass, yeah, it's basically fucking impossible, it will literally take 20+ years of training
if starting at 6'2 with 190lbs of lean body mass, it's very achievable
I started in november with 70kg as max, now my max is 105 kg. pplpplx program with two weeks deload with 4x. upB lowB. even did a week fasted after xmas. still 85 kilo BW
Eh, I hit it, 330x3x3 at my very best, weighing around 195 at 28, a not slim 5'9". I've got a good build for benching, did twice a week undulating periodization. Liftime natty. On the other hand I've never even squatted that, partially to due to back and knee injuries and spending more time on jiu-jitsu.
Is this one of those left wing memes I've heard so much about?
Wouldn't it be easier to just write out an explanatory paragraph rather than trying to force a complex explanation into a comic style format that doesn't actually assist it?
*if you're below 90kg
Forgot that
I benched over 150 at 85
i recently hit 3 pl8 1 rep max at 200 pounds.
I've done it, 325 lb at 6'2" and 195 pounds. My secret, t-rex arms, 6'0.5" wingspan.
Why? I was a thrower (discus, shot put, etc.).
>Only fatties can do it
I was aboutta reply all angrily to this thread, but you got me on that. I was benching 3pl8 when I weighed 215 lbs (so 97.5 kg). I was a Morbiusly obese 17-year-old at the time. Loved lifting, hated putting the fork down. Still don't even know where I would get roids.
I'm 6ft tall (have been since I was 13) so that meant that by BMI I wasn't obese which is why I disagree with BMI. It is WAY too nice to fatties. BMI 23 is unironically borderline obese.
This. I was doing 10x10 of 185 lbs on bench 4 days a week in the month and a half leading up to me getting 3pl8.
I'll second this. I was one of 2 guys at my high school with a 3pl8 bench that I knew of. Other one had played football all 4 years (I didn't play it at all) and weighed somewhere in the ballpark of 265 lbs.
Genetics
I'm currently at 130kg weighing 90 without any specific powerlifting routine lmao git gud scrub
Lmao I'm at 305 lbs bench weighing 170 lbs. Sorry about your poor genetics friend
Post body
Ok zoomer its not that hard
Is this sort of relationship still obtainable in the current year? This is literally all I want. I want to fall in love with a woman, get married, and then basically check out for the rest of my days, happy to live alongside her until I die. I feel like women have become brainwashed into thinking too highly of themselves for this to ever be possible again.
women actually have lower expectations now than boomer women did materially, they just have no capability of long term loyalty after a couple bodies
you spend too much time on internet if this is your impression. need to interact with females in real life situations.
this is the right mindset and how you keep women invested in you
I convinced my ex that I was autistic and that was the reason I couldn’t listen to her bitch about emotions for more than 10 minutes at a time
As a 5,10 manlet seeing 3 different girls right now, it’s literally this simple
How the fuck have you nigs not figured it out
Female currency = attention and validation
Bad behavior = withdraw attention and validation
Literally me in on the right
Then they get divorced and the boomer gives up half of his assets and cusdody of the kids.
Then be a boomer without the marrying part,Problem solved
You're training like a pussy. Soon I'm going to rep 3pl8 to make it my bitch while weighting around 85kg and all you can do is watch
I'm almost two years into lifting and just hit 3 pl8 bench
granted I jumped on the juice before even touching a dumbell
>2 years lifting
>2 years on juice
>2 years to hit 3pl8 bench
The power of steroids I guess. Those are some absolute trash lifting genetics you got my man. I'd do steroids if I was in your position too. Do you lie to normies and say that you do wii fit and zumba to get yoked?
huge cope tho. I know everyone on the internet has a 4 plate bench, but irl it's rare to see people hitting 2 plates fo reps. 3plates is almost elite at my bw.
and yes, of course I claim fake natty. I just say I take creatine and vits and go to the gym 3x a week
Why? Seriously what motivates people like you to be such dishonest fucks? Why intentionally demoralize everyone around you instead of trying to uplift others? Is it deep insecurity? Daddy issues?
Im not that guy but Im a "fake natty" as well. Its really like a first rule of fight club thing. To most of the population roids are super taboo, and if they dont know anything about fitness theyll believe Jay Cutler is natty if someone told them he was. For people who go to the gym and dont roid, it just gets them butthurt a lot of the time when they find out you juice and they get all passive aggressive and weird. So its like if they even need to ask they dont understand how roids work lol. Nobody natty could look like me so if you believe it when I say it its your fault. Also I genuinely wouldnt recommend its a self destructive lifestyle but I 100% want to do it and accept the risks. Then theres shit like my grandma doesnt need to know i take tren lmao
My friend who's been exercising for years and is huge thinks Chris Hemsworth is achievable natty. My friend is a fucking doctor and a smart guy otherwise. If he thinks Hemsworth is achievable natty, it's understandable regular Joe on the street thinks you can become a World of Warcraft character if you just pick very heavy things from the ground enough times.
Hollywood has to make up fairytales too for some reason. I got 65 lbs of muscle in 8 weeks because I put on electrodes to stim my muscles and ate brocoli with chicken a lot you guys. Yeah right. What Hemsworth or the Rock achieved is still impressive even with them roiding. But they have to make believe about their top secret training regimen that is definitely not injecting huge amounts of hormones.
>Chris Hemsworth is achievable natty
His physique is achievable natty. Did Chris do it natty? Not a chance
There’s nothing to be gained from telling people you’re juicing. If i ever roided i would never ever tell anybody. Why the fuck would you?
I mean I wouldnt bring it up but if someone asked me I think I would be honest about it. Although I dont roid to be fair so I dont know what its like.
You dont owe them anything but behavior like that should make you feel superior because people only behave like that out of jealousy.
Honestly this is fair but just goes to show how people are fucking stupid because I would get way more mad seeing someone looking like Jay Cutler or even Chris Hemsworth level claim natty. Its very easy to see when someones body isnt naturally attainable if you have any fitness knowledge.
Right? It just makes the insecure betas even more insecure. I put on 60lbs natty in 3 years of lifting, including Olympic lifting. Now I run simple cycles of Sust and Dbol, and I'm a fucking monster in the strength department. I also don't look like a massfreak either. People who talk shit have never really pushed thier limits, and have no idea how steroids work.
>You take a magic shot and magic pills and just automatically get muh muscles der der der
Kek, if you understood the work that goes into it you would stfu. I kill myself in the gym. The test just makes it so I can train longer/harder and recover faster.
Also I love how most people think "bench" is the end all be all to how strong you are. Tell me what you clean, dead lift, or push press if you wanna be strong
roidchud i look better than you 100%
you're deep in the cope zone my friend. I'm not a massmonster freak btw, I juice mostly for strength. I have never seen a natty with impressive delts
idgaf about others. they tried to pull me down as well. ( "you're going to the gym too much" " you look too muscular" "stop fretting about your diet" yada yada) do I owe honesty to such people? I'm honest to my lifting bro tho
>I know everyone on the internet has a 4 plate bench
The people that are most likely to be very strong are likely to frequent online lifting forums. The outliers are the ones that are most likely to post their massive lifts. Everyone else stays silent. The survivorship bias shows that most or many people can get 3pl8 bench, but it's simply not true.
>If you’re capable of benching 315 you’re stronger than around 99.96% of all men in the USA
>If you’re capable of benching 315 you’re stronger than around 98.50% of all male weightlifters in the gyms in the USA, which makes you the top 1.5% (at least, assuming VERY liberal demographic data)
>About 1-3 in 100 male gym goers in America are capable of bench pressing 2 plates. (1 in 1000 globally)
>About 1 in 3000 male gym goers are capable of benching 3 plates
good post. 3plate bench is really rare, even as a roider to be fair. as a natty it's close to absolute peak human performance
Or you're genetically perfect for it. Knew a guy in college who didn't lift much too much, could do 3pl8 because he was like 5'6 220lbs
So what, does that mean I'm genetically blessed for strength sports?
I've been training for 13 months now, and in month 9 I did a 3pl8 bench at around 225 lbs bw
Probably. Even with roids a lot of people wouldn't reach 3pl8. You might not be the world's strongest man, but you could be up there in terms of your capability to be strong
>irl it's rare to see people hitting 2 plates fo reps
half a dozen boomers of various sizes do 2pl8 for reps at my gym.
Just get father fag.
Also i can bench that for reps thanks to roids
Reality denier.
I do 140kgx5
fuck i lost my gf and this killed me tonight
she grew harsh, distant, and cold because you are a beta bitch with no self respect. She was also certainly fucking someone else that had a better mentality
>She was also certainly fucking someone else
What is it with this place and cuck fantasies?
>he doesnt know thats how women work
If a chick goes cold or gets mean out of nowhere shes either fucking someone else or mentally preparing to fuck someone else
I’m sorry to hear about your experience with disloyal women cheating on their husbands. Please don’t take this as a black pill and assume that most women are like this and that you’ll never find a woman who reciprocates your love.
I wish you well brother — Salam
Don't know where you're from, but around HALF of MARRIED women cheat on their husbands. The numbers are likely a lot higher in the non-married population. Western women are scum.
Its ok I got myself a great NOT AMERICAN gf now and its great and I never had any doubt of her faithfulness. White American women are mentally fucked 100% of them
>or gets mean out of nowhere
When I let my gf go to the gym she got thin and hot but she started shit talking to me when we have an argument and she won’t shut the fuck up. She will even make fun of me and told me that my physique is not that great and I should put more work in. She showed me some pics of guys in her it with more better physique than me (I mogged them tho) so I don’t know if she did it on purpose. The other day we were taking a walk and she was saying ‘I love my small man’
I was like Wtf, she wants to have kids with me tho
And what you should have said is: "If you say something like that again, you'll be looking for another man".
Idk
I’m nta but I’m letting you know i suspect it’s a low quality bot or troll by a low iq person. I feel like it could be bait if it was a bit more believable.
That's not a cuck fantasy. That's simply how women operate. They don't break up with someone just so they can be alone (MOST of the time), as this will make them look like a ruthless cold whore. They will stay with someone and then meet someone that they think is superior. Then they will start hanging out with that new guy and they may or may not be fucking him (extremely likely that this is happening). Then they will treat their official boyfriend like shit so that he will WANT to leave her.
If this goes on long enough then she will find a way to get rid of him (generally) rather than having to break it off herself (to maintain a social image and also to give her boyfriend an opportunity to redeem his honor and status), because they want to feel like a good person, but in order to feel like a good person they can't just straight up abandon someone. So all of the little tiny things that she can find to belittle her boyfriend that she no longer thinks is manly or good enough for her, she will begin to use as ammunition in order to cut him down. Then she might try to cleverly play social scenarios in order to make him look like an absolute piece of shit, try to case him up, try to make other people fight him, etc.
They do all of this in an effort to preserve their image and their own false sense of integrity. Anyone that has been around the block a time or two can vouch for this. They've either been the guy that this happens to or the guy that's fucking the chick while watching this play out.
How did you learn this?
I was the guy that was treated like trash and put into retarded situations like that because my gf at the time met dudes she thought was better. She really started whoring out when we moved closer to a bigger city. More males and hornier males = more competition and thus more of an incentive to whore around. The increased amount of male attention from absolute dogs made her start treating me like trash for hypergamy's sake. She would constantly fuck with me and insult me. Toward the end of things, she was literally a non-stop bitch for weeks on end. I could only take so much. Smacked the fuck out of her. Got to watch her laying on the ground, crying like a bitch. Went to jail for it and got kicked out of ~~*our apartment*~~ Never again will I share space with a woman unless I can tell her to gtfo at any time. It was very satisfying and I would 100% do it again if I ever saw her again. If the bitch is here reading this, I'll cut your fucking head off if I ever see you again.
Now I realize just how awful women are in general. Many of them are like this due to western social pressures and the availability of dick at the drop of a hat in addition to the fact that it's illegal to attempt to prevent this from happening in any way. I treat them like trash and they think I'm a top pick, because of the dark triad personality traits. Cruelty and competence are correlated, as you can't be a bastard, at least not for very long without also being competent, which is a good genetic pick. Went full red pill on the whole thing. I've fucked married women that treat their husbands the same way I was treated. I've seen every part of the equation and seen how it plays out from beginning to end. It's pretty bleak. The muslims are right. The progressive western ideologies are destroying the potential for the stable family unit
>Smacked the fuck out of her. Got to watch her laying on the ground, crying like a bitch
>It was very satisfying and I would 100% do it again
She was right. You are a weak man who cannot control his monster. Pathetic display of strength.
Why did God make us stronger than women, if he did not want us to smack them when they get outta line.
To protect them from the harms of the world, including ourselves. Someone in life has to bear the burden of reality. Women should not know the ills of the world so they can stay naive and playful for us and our future children.
>Women should not know the ills of the world so they can stay naive and playful for us and our future children.
Well, they are that now.
It's never been easier to be a Women, and look at this hellscape they have made on the world.
If you need to assert physical dominance, it's easy to do without actually hurting her. Get creative. Or just wrestle her to the ground. You don't need to beat her. That's like slapping a child around.
It's still domestic violence if she says it is, you get arrested either way and you're guilty until proven innocent because a woman made the accusation.
Only winning move is not to play. Or move to a 3rd world country.
Bitch had it coming
>Only winning move is not to play
100% this. I'm not playing the game again until I can play it on my own terms, which is essentially having 100% capability to kick a bitch out or ghost her at the drop of a hat if this shit starts to happen.
The power of feminism lmao
>b-b-but the patriarchy!
A bit of sociopathy and warped sense of reality. Don't listen to "redpilled" retards on IST because you become a woman-hating moron.
Lmao yeah the dude dates an obviously insane girl and then beats her up and goes to jail. Great guy to take advice from kek
>She really started whoring out when we moved closer to a bigger city
i don't understand this, how are you not a cuck if you knew this was happening and did nothing over it? you could have broken up when you found out she was cheating, but instead you raged out because you were getting verbally owned on the daily?
i feel like it's likely you were overly paranoid about that idea (with no proof of actual cheating). she was probably badgering you to improve yourself/your mindset but nothing was working because you settled with yourself happily before the new environment. in such a situation, telling you about attention from guys would probably have been a way to light a fire under your ass through jealousy. it sounds like she didn't give up on you for as long as possible and then you beat the shit out of her when she asked you to do something while you were playing your nintendo switch for hours again.
maybe that's not true at all and you really did have an ice cold psycho bpd cheating gf. but either way, if you don't want your gf/wife to nag you like your mother then don't put her in that position by letting yourself go to shit in whatever irresponsible ways
I did break it off with her in the end, I had no problem just letting it slide. The problem was that we lived together and she would still fuck with me even after we were done because even though we technically weren't together she still wanted me wrapped around her finger and she hated that I could just dismiss her and be completely fine with it as if she never existed. She claimed she never was fucking other dudes, but I strongly believe she was just lying. She was going off with a bunch of dudes all the time and was hanging off of them, basically groping them constantly. Neighbors and friends reported this. Saw it first hand on her bday when she wanted to go to the bar with one of her cocks. She was sitting on him and feeling him up. I crawled her ass about it later and she pulled the whole, "I didn't know lol" bullshit.
I didn't play video games. I wasn't lazy. I went to work, saved my money, came home, cooked food, cleaned my house, and essentially went to sleep. She didn't even want to entertain the idea of how we could work together to get out of some shitty ass hole in the wall apartment. She blew her money on fucking bullshit like vapid entertainment and drugs I'm assuming. I know she at least was smoking a fuck ton of weed with her loser ass friends. We never saw each other because I worked second and she worked first. We were more like estranged roommates than partners. She had no desire to make it work. None whatsoever.
Pretty sure she just got bored is all. She got bored and wanted to be with other people that were comfortable blowing all of their money on whatever shiny object consoomerist bullshit they were into at the time and then fuck her.
I guess the crux of it was that I wanted a life partner that would grow with me and wanted to actually create a family and do something productive. She only wanted to ride the carousel and amuse herself with whatever meaningless bullshit she wanted at any given time.
so you were beating your sense of maturity into her? i dunno, man. doesn't sound like you really committed to breaking up at any point since you were still at each other like that while being roommates. obviously the lease wasn't the thing stopping you since you probably went to jail for the duration of it. perhaps a good lesson in reading the writing on the wall and getting out at whatever costs instead of hurting yourself/others in various ways.
This was like 5-6 years ago. I've cooled off a lot since then. I would probably go out of my way to avoid her forever if I knew where she was today. The whole thing was a shitshow. I was locked out of my own house and had to climb in to get my stuff when I got out of jail, which I later found out was illegal (even if it was my own house), which could have landed me in prison if anyone saw and reported it. There was a temporary restraining order placed on me immediately so I was effectively banned from my own house and job. We worked at the same place, but on different shifts. Even if she wasn't there I still wasn't allowed to go in because that's technically her place of employment. Got fired, lost the right to be at the apartment, went to jail, was on probation for a year.
If my own car was working at the time I would have just left, but I was saving up some money to get it worked on or to get the parts to do it myself. Even so, it would have been better and smarter to just move in with one of my family members and get a job somewhere else and leave it all behind.
It all culminated in the dumbest pettiest most retarded way too. She had given me a cover because she purchased a new set for herself. I came in one day to see her using it and said, "I didn't say you could use my cover". So she just got up and tossed the fucker in the dumpster. I go out to grab it. She then rushes back to the door to try to lock me out, but I get there just in time to stop the door from closing. Then she just starts going through the house destroying my shit. When I saw her doing that I just lost it and smacked the fuck out of her like 6 times, until she fell to the ground crying. I told her to shut the fuck up and started getting ready to go to jail since I knew that's where I was going anyway. Saw her in court once more after that and never again. Life has been so peaceful since that cunt went on her way. I hope she has nightmares and PTSD. I don't regret it at all.
How old are you?
old enough to know how retarded all of it was
God damn dude. You are completely clueless.
>They've either been the guy that this happens to or the guy that's fucking the chick while watching this play out.
I have been on both sides (mostly the cucked side) because im an LTR dude ngl here. I was always the guy who had 3 years relationships without cheating and being loyal etc. Now im 30 and i low key regret that i don't ahve kids or got married yet becuase i wasted a lot of time with these hoes.
I will tell you one thing.. a woman is NEVER NEVER NEVER single. Literally Never. You either steal her from someone else or you take her from the talking stage of like 10 dudes. A woman can never be alone, its in their nature. Even my bpd ex who still stalks me to this day I'm sure she fucked somebody else. So if your ex is calling you right now, just be sure she had another dick in her before you take her back. Take the blackpill brahs
Quality post and accurate af
i was the one to break it off cuck. she is at my door twice a day begging me to take her back. Loving her doesn't mean i have to be tolerant with her actions. fuc off now
>i have a huge ego so when she grows cold i lose interest...
same but i loved her, she doesn't know tho im cold af
get on no fap....NOW
Anyway bros i just cebrated my dads bday with a burger and fries and tommorow my cut starts. i will be insane
never ever i felt sad about a breakup because i have a huge ego so when she grows cold i lose interest...
Lmao I've never been broken up with, always the one breaking up. I even divorced my ex a few years back. I've broken up with my current fiance like five times but she fights to get me back which I respect so I'm marrying her
Cope. Even pimps with hundreds of partners have unexpected flaking.
>t. average peen
something about BBC
>this killed me tonight
Mate, just to be clear, that last part is a fantasy. Its a cycle, not a happy ending
A monthly cycle
...Huh? Natty here. I can rep 250... I can probably ORM close to 3pl8, and I've only been training for about a year straight. It's definitely going to happen eventually, and I've even had injuries before.
i got to 315 for a single at about 185lbs natty and it took quite awhile. not worth pinning if you aren't looking to compete though imo
I've done it @ around 93kg bodyweight
>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
shut the FUCK up
I'm 108 kg and I'm repping 3pl8 after 13 months of training
Natty 4pl8 bencher here. Bench and upper body does well with more volume/frequency than lower. Eat more, lift more, get sleep.
This is fucking retarded.
Anyways you should never show vulnerability around women.
They do not give a shit and will even cheat you on for it.
the guy that made the OP pic has never been in a relationship
Dude I can do that without even trying, but then doing a pushup for me is like repping 200 lbs. I really don't got to the gym, but I did 100 pushups a day challenge a couple of times when I was up to 270. Currently down to 230, kept my strength. Just do weighted pushups and do the 100 pushup a day challenge and fucking eat good, retard
I got a 3pl8 bench natty at age 32, but I also weighed probably 220 when I did it. Most roiders aren’t hittin BP or the other compound lifts that often. I did this by benching every 4-5 days while doing accessory exercises like weighted pulls ups.
It actually is an instance of genetics of getting a 3pl8 bench or more.
I've seen guys who lift for year but never even hit 2 pl8s.
If they modified their training and technique they probably could eventually.
Anyways, some people can do it natty with hard work but it will take many years.
There is zero possibility you can do it with less than 5 years of lifting.
No one at my gym benches 3 plates yet on IST it's suddenly really common lol
I believe the roiders, but natty 3pl8 is insane and close to peak human strength. I mean it's possible, there are some strong autists on here, but yeah the chanes aren't very good
I don't know how Bald Omni Man does it.
He's been training for around a decade, and doing it nearly 100% correctly for around 50-75% of the time. When people talk about the "natty limit" of 3-5 years, they mean 3-5 years of nearly 100% correct training, which nearly nobody does
guy is old as shit, looks like a foot in the grave
natties be like
>hurr durr I hit 315 after 20 years of lifting
I hit 4 pl8s on my first year of tren
He's still in his 20s I believe...
lmao looks aged as fuck
what creatine does to mf...
>bald
KEK
idk dude, he looks 27-28 to me
>Creatine is s-ACK
creashit not even once
i was literally a dyel when i hit 3pl8s for the first time
5x5
I bench 170kg @ 93kg natty lol
Try actually lifting friend
I benched 315 at 15. Admittedly, I am an obese Samoan but it's definitely possible naturally.
what the fuck is up with samoans and lifting. half of them at my gym can bench 4pl8
completely depends on your starting point
if you're starting at 5'7 with 130lbs of lean body mass, yeah, it's basically fucking impossible, it will literally take 20+ years of training
if starting at 6'2 with 190lbs of lean body mass, it's very achievable
I started in november with 70kg as max, now my max is 105 kg. pplpplx program with two weeks deload with 4x. upB lowB. even did a week fasted after xmas. still 85 kilo BW
3pl8 natty bench is perfectly doable even at low bodyweights. The guys competing in ipf bench around 4-5 pl8 and many of those never took roids.
getting there, going to attempt 130 in the next few weeks at 85. Bench is my worst of the big 3 too.
>women
This guy is 270 and proud of his 315 bench.
>Get fat
>Get big ol muscles
>Cut the fat off
>profit
Easy to say. Hard to do
what makes it hard to do
The hard part
what's the hard part
Eh, I hit it, 330x3x3 at my very best, weighing around 195 at 28, a not slim 5'9". I've got a good build for benching, did twice a week undulating periodization. Liftime natty. On the other hand I've never even squatted that, partially to due to back and knee injuries and spending more time on jiu-jitsu.
moron
Is this one of those left wing memes I've heard so much about?
Wouldn't it be easier to just write out an explanatory paragraph rather than trying to force a complex explanation into a comic style format that doesn't actually assist it?
You never ever talk about your feelings to women.