There is no need to ever read anything other than self improvement books. Everything else is a waste of time.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    'Need' got nothing to do with it.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Beyond good and evil being here is crazy tbh. when I want a break from super heavy stuff I'll crack it open here and again, and I'll read an essay, and realize Nietzche is *the* heaviest stuff.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No the moronic OP is right on that. Nietzsche is just self-help.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this isn't true, though, why do you think this

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't want to waste any more time on this. if you want to know go there:

          [...]

          and read the entire thread.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            terrible thread, it's the same dogshit surface level engagements with nietzche by malding christshitters and low IQ mystics.
            if that's where your criticism lies, then just stop reading. go play CoD

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There's nothing deep in Nietzsche. It's all surface level and without substance. Much like your post.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nietzche
                >surface level
                you see in him what you see in yourself

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes. Very deep 'no u'-type rebuttal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                homie said "Much like your post" and thinks he can talk about corny rebuttals, you're one step away from "erm ackshually" cringey frick

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're free to elaborate on how your post was 'ackshually' very deep.

                But of course you won't be able to.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but of course you won't be able to
                Come on dude you're begging to have a wiener up your ass with this kind of pseudopedantry.

                Have you even read nietzche? If you've read him, and think you understand anything that he has to say, then you've already been filtered. he wrote with misinterpretation in mind, making any thematic investigation of his work close to impossible. common themes obviously arise, but his discourse is like heraclitean fire. The first essay in BGE servers as a perfect example for the infinite form, fractalic structure of his work.

                you just haven't read him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he wrote with misinterpretation in mind, making any thematic investigation of his work close to impossible. common themes obviously arise, but his discourse is like heraclitean fire. The first essay in BGE servers as a perfect example for the infinite form, fractalic structure of his work.

                You just keep proving my point don't you. All you Nietzschtroons can come up with is stylistic bullshit. Yes I admitted already his prose is good. He had a brilliant manic style (due to his brain being eaten by syphilis). But so what? Unless you are a moron who can't tell style from substance that doesn't make him a great thinker or philosopher. Noone of you can present a single original and non-trivial philosophical achievement of his.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wasn't talking about his prose or style at all lol, it's telling you interpreted what I was saying that way though.

                as for achievements
                >Critique of modernism that holds true to this day
                >grandfather of Postmodernism
                >inspiration of countless literary masterpieces
                >dismantled logical positivism in it's infancy
                >prophetic predictions that hold true (last man, Nihilism insurgence etc)
                >epistemology, metaphysics (dont care that he claimed to be an anti metaphysician, see heidegger), ontology, truth theory, and ethical assertions are all par excellence

                this is just a rough sketch. not even that well we'll versed in Nietzche, but everything you've said is just uninformed. again, have you read nietzche? if so, what? I know it's a lot to ask a litizen to read, but come on dude, you've offered no substantial criticism that i haven't seen the rest of the uneducated lit horde regurgitate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I wasn't talking about his prose or style at all lol, it's telling you interpreted what I was saying that way though.
                Yes you were. The fact he is a homosexual with 'misinterpretation in mind', 'like heraclitean fire' and the structure of his works 'a perfect example of infinite form, fractalic structure' are all bullshit meta-level features which do not count as the substance of a text. The same would be of a novelist who explores different perspectives or whatnot. I legitimately call that style. You are just being pedantic.

                of modernism that holds true to this day
                So he whined about modern society? Big fricking deal. Clearly a genuine philosopher.
                of Postmodernism
                its shit so dont care
                of countless literary masterpieces
                WHO. GIVES. A. SHIT. (not philosophical achievement)
                logical positivism in it's infancy
                Already done by Kant.
                predictions that hold true (last man, Nihilism insurgence etc)
                KEK 'Prophecy' about societal shit doesn't make someone a philosopher. (those were not too hard to see at any rate; Schopenhauer had similar essays and those don't contribute on his being an actual philosopher). It's like saying Jules Vernes was a philosopher because he predicted technology or whatever. Full moron.
                , metaphysics (dont care that he claimed to be an anti metaphysician, see heidegger), ontology, truth theory, and ethical assertions are all par excellence
                those are philosophical fields. try again. it's like saying he had great philosophical achievements because he was great at philosophy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ah, so you haven't read him. read him, come back, and then make your arguments.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No argument I see.

                I accept your concession.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok let's put this that way.

                I've read enough to know he's worthless.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there's literally no point in arguing with you if you don't even know (nor have had time to think about thoroughly) the textual instances I'm citing. pigeons and chessboards. I'm serious though, if you just read him and are willing to point shit out specifically you hate, I'm willing to discuss. reading him enough to know that he's worthless just means you didn't find what you're looking for, not that it's of no value.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Alright I read Standford Encyclopedia summaries plus some parts of Genealogy and such and found nothing of value in them. But every single time I read a philosopher's encyclopedia entry and fail to find anything of value in it, and then read the actual philosopher I don't find anything more of substance. Examples are Aquinas, Wittgenstein and so on. Conversely you can tell the actually great philosophers just by their encyclopedia entries. You'd think if he had something of substance to say, it could be summarized, no? The rest being stylistic shit I don't care about.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sure, if you think testing the waters with your toe is the same as diving all the way in.

                Alternatively, you can read an incredibly written summary for a shit book, and find an incredible book with an uninviting summary.

                you have to remember, these entries are categorical simplifications (a lot like how a label loses the nuance of the thought it attempts to contain) that go through editors and include the biases of the writers. if you're genuinely interested in making a substantial criticism of nietzche, or just being intimate with his thought, then (as with literally all philosophy) you *have* to go to the source. secondary sources are useful for further elucidation or help with comprehension, but they're heuristical, they more likely than not fail to capture the breadth of thought.

                if you're going to read nietzche just to criticize him, I'd say you're limiting yourself greatly. but that goes for every philosopher. do what you will

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                At this point from what I gathered it seems to me that the main attraction of Nietzsche is some sort of manic energy that diffuses to the reader through intoxication by his prose and non-linear structure of his books. This is what the people defending him are pointing to (the meta-level level stylistic aspects rather then substantial ones). Those might be interesting to some but they aren't the features I care and the actual ideas as I read them in the summaries seem vulgar and shallow to me. It's hard to imagine how a serious academic could fail to include truly outstanding ideas but focus solely on the trite ones. I suppose I might be wrong but I doubt it as prior experience with encyclopedias tends to go against that possibility.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                again, this only what you've gathered from an encyclopedia and lit interactions. when I was intent on reading him, the prose was a secondary feature that I came back to after a second or third reading. the density of his thought is contained in short and oftentimes aphoristic essays, but that's not to say that his thought isn't immense. I can read a single passage of BGE and be spellbound in trying to tackle the essay for days.

                you are correct though. some of nietzche is incredibly easy to read, and most people who think they "philosophize" are drawn to the "easy" texts, because who the frick is going to read a dense, technical system of neologisms and idiosyncrasies, when they're reading shit like Harry potter on the side. But that's exactly where the danger is. that's why he's so easy to misinterpret, misunderstand, and appropriate. that's why it takes so much understanding to actually engage with his thought thoroughly.

                again, if you're interested in genuine philosophy, PRIMARY SOURCES FIRST, SECONDARY MATERIAL SECOND. if you don't think you're interested in nietzche, don't read him. life is short, strength is temporary. but then you lose the ability to speak meaningfully about him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll add to that, I know that it's not strictly the 'style' but also the semantic structure, connotations that can be intoxicating and I think this is due to N being not completely sane so as to not have linear, restricted mental processes. I actually experimented similar things in the past myself. But then again I'm not convicted there's a point in deciphering the ramblings of a half-madman no matter how brilliant. Especially when his known ideas appear rather vulgar at face-value.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My favourite Nietzschean life hack is to create an hyper-aristocratic warrior class through eugenics, then enslave the whole of mankind so that I can enjoy better art.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So is Plato.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      after reading Beyond Good and Evil, I have finally mastered the skill of philosophy

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spoken like a true corpo slave.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm always amazed by the amount of psychopatic drones reading shit like The Prince, Rich Dad Poor Dad, 48 Laws of Power and random "productivity" books instead of getting shit done. Females are the biggest offenders when it comes to this shit btw.
    Isn't it insane that anyone is putting on a mask and change if often according to who they are speaking with, because they follow some stupid advice? Always worrying about how to be even more productive (for whom?) and making their lifes revolve only around that purpose which obvisouly translates into materialism and individualism to fuel the rat race?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Always worrying about how to be even more productive (for whom?) and making their lifes revolve only around that purpose which obvisouly translates into materialism and individualism to fuel the rat race?
      I'm interested in books that explore this (awful) mindset, but the only one that vaugley comes to mind is The Protestant Ethic. Anyone have any recs for the subject?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        American psycho unironically

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It probably isn't a coincidence that lots of the books in the picture have a subtle off-white color, and tasteful thickness.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Essential subhuman literature

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >waste of time
    Time is worthless

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YOUR time is limited, and desirable. All limited and desirable things are valuable

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get off the trip happiness is just a myth

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To waste your life is the best use you can make of it, for you pay for it with something that does not exist: happyness

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is the superlative cope. I'm sorry your life sucks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Reading self-help book ain't gonna improve it, that's for sure

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I 100% agree. But to say happiness doesn't exist is just a cope borne from your jealousy of others' happiness.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Happiness is growth in mood. Can't have endless growth. To grow again, your mood must first decline. Its all zero sum, at best. AT BEST. Because despair can in fact be endless.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your moronation is endless

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, especially when they're by israelites who want to sabotage your life!

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kek I feel sad for whoever read all that unironically
    Hope life gets better for them, but they're probably a smelly pajeet

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lol that philosophy section

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. I know this is a bait thread but do people honestly read all that shlop?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Then why are you improving your self if not to enjoy more of life?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ok I'll bite the bullet because a mob has formed in this thread. Self help books are great and more helpful than philosophy. 48 Laws of Power works, it has made my decision making better. Can't Hurt Me saved my life and pulled me out of my depression, jt is basically Nietzche but irl. The entire personal finance section has absolutely amazing business advice and the philosophy section is stuff which would help you find meaning in life. Thinking fast and slow was also helpful to me in game design and marketing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are of course loads of mediocre self help stuff which is just babbling needlessly, but the good stuff stands out and will do more for man's happiness than Plato or Kant could even aim for.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Skills are things like using Windows Excel, translating into Latin, making porcelain plates and carving boxwood

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's funny, because I'll read anything but self help books.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Books on power dynamics should be titled "How People Are Stupid".

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For normies. Let the autists enjoy the canon. It’s made by autists for the autists.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The lessons learned from fiction are more helpful and felt more deeply than any self help shlock

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only a handful of self improvement books are actually helpful. Most of the books you find that are recommended by influencers and whatnot are mostly fluff with only a paragraph or so of actual content. You might as well just be reading a list of random words.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Self-improvement books are WAY too padded with filler instead of getting to the point.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is interesting, only because, when you put so many of these trash books in one place, you really get a sense of how the victims are victimizing themselves, and the rubes are grifting themselves. It is a fascinating peek into the hell we create for ourselves.

    The only thing missing is a category for books on religion.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I must be "productive" at all times!!!!1
    Listen, buddy. Some of us are born into wealth and don't need to work a shitty job or be generally considered successful and ambitious in this boring, soulless, and materialist society. You stick to your self-help slop with no literary value while you wage slave yourself to death, I'll continue reading the classics for aesthetic pleasure and to enrichen my inner world.

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