There is no reason not to roid as long you are responsible. 99% of natties are just cowards.
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There is no reason not to roid as long you are responsible. 99% of natties are just cowards.
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I like women tho
That's undesireable though
Test levels on average are hilariously low compared to a century ago. pinning test should be mandatory. it turns the tables on this feminized af society. just don't be a moron and pin grams of gear unless you're a pro athlete or bb
100 years ago we barely knew what testosterone WAS. it wasn't even isolated as a compound until 1935. We have no idea what testosterone levels were like prior to the invention of blood tests to measure it.
https://www.rickcollins.com/blog/2010/november/testosterone-cavemen-had-the-edge/
Even just logically thinking about it. We evolved from monkeys who have much higher test than us. It has been declining ever since.
>doesn't know the difference between monkeys and apes
Sure am gonna believe you moron lol
He's right tho. Test levels in our current generation are very low
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17062768/
apes are monkeys in modern taxonomy (cladistics)
go back to fricking school, humans are still classified as fish as well.
Higher finger length is a sign of testosterone exposure in the womb, which is a sign that WOMEN had higher testosterone levels -- not that men did.
Also, for christ sake, you didn't even put an article, you put a trumped up ad for dick pills posted by some homosexual two-bit lawyer. A lawyer shilling dick pills. Is this you posting, Rick?
If so, you should be fricking disbarred.
this is completely wrong. Everything I've ever read says that higher testosterone in the womb leads to a shorter pointer finger.
i am bottom left and i can attest every one of those is correct for me, try to avoid alchohol but always do it if its social. always aggressive and competitive as kid but learned to keep it under control because id lose friends over it.
>face not masculine more "cute" as girls say.
>always super good at sports,
>made 120k off crypto in 2021
>solid 7, 8 at best
only had 3 sex partners though because my family memed me into monogamy because they look down on me if i can't hold a girl. all i wanna do is frick every sloot i see tho.
we didnt evolve from monkies
Interpolation brainlet
Because people on average these days are behind a computer and eating like shit. Pinning test won't do anything but make you a drug addict, moron
its amazing how few people understand this. "muh test leves are getting lower!!!!" and how do people think that this statistic is measured? by people who fricking get their test levels checked
people with average, high and normal test levels dont get their levels tested, simple as. these levels dont show up anywhere on the statistics. it's only the 25-30% bf incels that have virtually 0 muscle mass, sleep 5-6 hours a day, jerk off to troony porn 2 times a day, are depressed, eat goysl0p and then after a 72hr gaming session with 0 sleep they get their levels checked and it shows 300-400 and then they go "OOHHH ITS LOW!!! THE AVERAGE IS DROPPING". WELL NO FRICKING SHIT ITS DROPPING WHEN ONLY GENETIC FRICKING DEAD ENDS KEEP TANKING THE NUMBER DOWN.
Ok. Anon, you are low IQ. Assuming that guys with normal test levels don't have them checked is wrong. Its a plain moronic take. Millions of blood tests are done every day, running hormone panel is not uncommon at all. MOST people who check their levels are in the normal range, not low, so this reflects in the test ranges. You are simply wrong.
nope
Great reply anon, nice arguments..
It will give you the best gains of your life bar none.
A century ago we were eating led paint and asbestos sandwiches in between smoke breaks you twat
Alright, fine. Let's say I got some disposable income. Who do I talk to first? I don't have a physician.
i have high t and i'm a total fricking loser
testosterone is just a hormone, it doesn't magically turns you into an aryan gigachad and solves your life
>i have high t
but do you have free t?
Does injecting testosterone ever increase your levels to where you can cycle off and keep the gains or do you have to permanently inject yourself?
You keep some gains, not all, if you go back to natty. But your muscle cells are permanently enhanced.
>I gotta take test to become manly!!
>has natural test levels nuked and turns into a troony
uh huh
Roiders would be the first to perish if the world broke down
*troonys
Then roidtroonys
I simply don't care about the gym that much. I still like pushing myself in the gym but roiding just complicates it
why would I wanna look like that? just be muscular for no reason?
Roidgays simply cannot comprehend not having body dysmorphia
Don't pretend you aren't neurotically obsessed with your appearance. You just prefer to look feminine rather than masculine. The only thing that separates you from a "roidtroony" is the autogynephilia, ISTggot
Boibussy
Post glutes
You're literally proving my point, you cannot even fathom not having body dysmorphia and so you project it on everyone else
Post glutes
Touch grass
Show me your feet
I kinda like having nuts that work bro.
> can never ever stop roiding because the balls have permanently stopped producing natural test
I have no reason to roid
Why are roidtrannies constantly trying to get people to follow their moronation? They're like the homosexuals that took the vaxxx and wanted to force others to do the same.
Just enjoy your needles and transition already and leave the rest of us be.
>natties are cowards
Actually, I'm just to moronic to figure out how and where to start
Kek, this. Too moronic to know where to start but not moronic enough to Ingest the shit some faceless moron on fit tells me I should take.
>99% of roidtrannies are insecure trying to impress strangers
You shouldn't be proud of your accomplishments unless you do them naturally druggie
If I could do so with doctor supervision I would. Instead I'd have to ask around the gym locker room for some shit.
let these nattys believe their own bullshit.
The less people on roids the more impressive I look.
I'm thinking about jumping on the bandwagon with all these "roidtroony" posters.
I like being one the biggest guys in the gym.
If you do one cycle of chinese bathtub research chemicals your have a little dick and be covered with acne scars for life. Roiding for this lmao
Enjoy your sleep apnea, calcified coronary arthery and degenerative brain diseases in your 30s. When healthy natties won't ever get any of that
enjoy not seeing your endless void of insecurity for the rest of your short life
my wife likes my big fertile nuts
she rubs my back, that's acne-free
My nuts are probably still bigger than yours (shrank maybe 30%) and no acne but also 220 lbs at 5'9" (no I'm not fat dyel)
tell me that guys actual age and that alone is reason enough not to roid
I want to see myself grow to my full natural potential. I don't do any drugs whatsoever.
I started a cycle and 4 weeks later I was sucking wiener in a hotel room
Test is fricking powerful m80
> posts a cpt upper body who only has gains due to trading in decades of his life
> responsible
It is moronic.
Man, I knew there was going to be salt. But I did not expect this much.
Waste of money.
This is always my first thought. I have no idea how much all this gear costs or even where to find it.
>injecting roids to the point your body stops producing the hormone itself is totally reasonable
You are a moron.
Lmao what is responsible roiding? 200 mg a week? Or you can just be bigger han 99.9% of the population and impress 100% of normies by working out for 2 years without being dependent on a weekly injection for the rest of your life
>99% of natties are just cowards
Correct. It's why "sarms" and "oral only" cycles are so popular. They're all literally too scared to pin
It's more complicated, more annoying but needed for good results. Dbol sought to eliminate the need for pinning but introduced other garbage. SARMs do show a lot of promise but needs much more research and financing before it becomes good. The problem with regular test, dht is that it affexts everything in the body. The eggexts being concentrated to certain tissues could be a massive improvement and make these substances a lot safer (that's what sarms tried to do but failed so far)
Roiding doesn’t solve anything though. You still have body dysmorphia or you wouldn’t do it. But now you have body dysmorphia, a hole in your wallet and health conditions. You’re still going to lift as long as you’re alive (so early 30s) it’s completely meaningless, you took a cab to the finish line and now you’re sprinting in place instead of just jogging through the entire track and earning the finish. makes you look pathetic because it is. And the rest of your body hasn’t caught up to the rapid muscle growth so you’re prone to tearing shit up.
Not to mention the correlation between roiders and livestock.
>There is no reason not to roid
Will it make me healthier, wealthier, or wise? No. It will make me sicker, poorer, and moronic.
>Will it make me healthier, wealthier, or wise?
He said, while posting on anime pedo image board.
moronicer*
enjoy your raisin balls, laddo
no, there's no way to fix it after it happens either, you're permafricked
hcg keeps the nuts healthy and functioning. enough tales of pros impregnating their wife on grams of gear
problem with roids is that it's a crapshoot. as in, if you're a hyper-responder they're awesome. no acne, thinning or gyno, no or a trivial BP increase, while gaining lots of lbm
other people turn into a water buffaloo, get wrecked by acne and turn bald, while gaining only slighly above a natty rate
Roiding has no benefits and so many fricking downsides. Why would I medicalize myself? You are relying on big pharma to slowly have a nice day.
And then when you want to inevitably want to get off you rely on big pharma to transition back to a normal human, less healthy than if you had just never taken them.
Roider's are just as deluded and insecure as the fat activist types you cannot convince me otherwise.
roids shud be legal. we can all benefit from a cycle.
this is retarted, there are plenty of reasons not to roid that's not to say there is no reason to do it but for most people wouldn't get anything out of it. belive it or not just taking gear and not training wont help you build muscle and taking gear while you eat tendies fried in need oils and corn syrup won't help you loose fat. There isn't any point in juicing until your at least 3-5 years into training, even then you should get a full physical to make sure you don't have any health problems you don't know about. Just because your doing it responsibly doesn't mean your totally safe, you could have used hcg the whole time you were on gear but for whatever reason, it didn't keep your fertility intact, you could have had a heart,liver, or kidney problem you didn't know about until after you already cut 15 years off your life.
TLDR if your playing with fire you shouldn't be surprised when you get burnt
Inb4 post body
Yes the response is specific to individual. If you go to popular forums you sometimes come across people who needed years to fix their hormonal levels from a simple 12 -16 week 500mg test e cycle. It's playing with fire, you can do everything "correct" and still end up fricking yourself.
>no reason not to roid
don't tempt the norwood reaper boyos
That's not fair, Cavill looks great in both.
Would low dose anavar (like 15 mg a day) give a boost without shutting me down? 6'2" 200 14ish% bf
No. DHT will spike and this signals your body to start producing less. Extremely low dosages have been shown to be counter productive as well in research. As in it gets you lower levels and shuts you down.
nah, i was raised right. Men should have integrity, its what makes you a good man. roiding to me is cheating, and i want to do this on my own merit. Also every roider ive ever known has been a manchild. That shit is beneath me.
it's not cheating unless you compete in a natty competition
it is though. you think you could lift that weight, while being that bulky at a low body fat on your own, naturally? frick no. Make whatever excuses you want for yourselves, but dont pretend it isnt cheating, thats just cope.
Do you think your computer would exist to type these messages naturally? Do you think you could treat cancer naturally? Do you think that you could eat botulinum toxin and survive because it is natural? What the hell are you even talking about? Sure. Modern medicine and things that push us beyond our natural limits are cheating. We should be slaves to our biology. In fact, we should abolish laws because they force us to act contrary to instinct sometimes.
The mental gymnastics you go through to justify your dumb opinion lol. Dont get hot and bothered that you cheated, just call it what it is. Meanwhile i can look great and be proud that i did it on my own merit. I dont care that you roid, but it is beneath me because i am a man.
Training in a nice modern gym with air conditioning is cheating. Go outside and lift rocks and hunt all your own food.
What? Even the ancients had gymnasiums, which were also full of rocks. They just had holes in the rocks for picking them up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halteres_(ancient_Greece)
Same thing
He wasn’t talking about cancer or modern medicine, dumbass lol. Apples to oranges. But i guess critical thinking isn’t a roiders strong suit anyway.
AAS are literally modern medicine. And the point stands. It's a naturalistic fallacy. If he wants to do it naturally, that is great. But that doesn't make the opposite cheating. It isn't a competition and his standard for results isn't universal.
What gymnastics? I was just pointing out how faulty your reasoning was. I didn't give an opinion. It is objectively not cheating unless you are using them for a competitive advantage or lying about the use for financial advantage. That isn't an opinion. It is a definition of the word. If someone wants to push their body beyond physiological norms, there is no other ways to do that aside from drugs and surgery. So if you are saying that doing the only possible thing is cheating, I don't know what to say to you. It is beyond reason.
would roid but I saw a handsome gymbro legit 8/10 no homosexual turn into a bulldog start shedding hair and age 15 years no thanks...
Lots of debate among the full blown roiders and the Natties here
What if I wanna look something like pic related? Notice the full, wet look to their bodies? That shit is cash. And they didn’t use tren, hgh, insulin etc and all these other horrible things. And a lot of them are still alive and some even look good to this day!
I don’t think this should be frowned upon. It’s called the golden era of bodybuilding for a reason. The guys were handsome too, op pic is ugly as frick and is quite literally flexing his face off.
they are alive because they're famous and have the best healthcare they can afford. you're coming out here with that survivor's bias for them
Arnold had 3 heart valve surgeries. He'd be dead without modern medicine and he did roid.
test, deca, primo, anavar, dbol
all you need
damn, I haven't heard from him since the days where he was big on misc, lookism and ukmuscle
I have actually cycled multiple times, each time i come to self realisation its not the 'real' me and I stop. You dont need steroids and pretending youre something youre not is pathetic really
What about semorelin, hgh, and other inject peptides?
Said no medical professional (physician, researcher, therapist, or otherwise) ever. You roid trannies are worse than potheads with your whole "my vice is the safe one" nonsense. Taking exogenous hormones beyond therapeutic necessity is one of the most dangerous things you can do to your body. Just admit that you're killing yourself and that you think it's worth it.
MD here
>dilatative heart disease
>hypertrophy of left ventricle leading to hypoxia / pain / arrythmias in the long run
>thick blood, more E, higher mean blood pressure -> intracranial bleeding, chronic heart faliure, kidney damage, retina damage
>the shutdown of your endogenous test production -> ball shrinkage, deficient spermiogenesis -> sterile if done too much
not to mention the shit oily skin, mood swings, etc. just to impress a bunch of people that dont even care about you
Straight out of the text book and everyone is the same, well done "doc"
>There is no reason not to cocaine as long you are responsible. 99% of natties are just cowards.
Roids are basically cheating as they increase your muscle growth and recovery. Without them you'd be a DYEL.
I condone each and every roidtroony, Arnold included.
I don't think you know what condone means.
By using the term "cheating" you are showing how juvenile you are by viewing roidChads as direct competition. In reality you are in different leagues with no reason to compare. Your insecurity is showing.
I simply do not trust that medical science understands a "safe" way to frick with my hormones. We do not understand how our bodies work at the level of detail necessary for me to actively frick with it. I don't buy it.
I also don't want to look like a monster. I am not far from my goal body on my own already, I don't mind patiently waiting on it for another year or so while I watch myself steadily improve.
I don't want kids so it's great I have lots of unprotected sex and have came in this one chick i live with 2-4x a day for months "trying for a baby" kek it's a win-win for me
How do you go on vacations?
Do you pct before them?
Kek is that DLTBB?
yep, post prison time
I just don't feel like roiding
These are drug dealer lines
>responsible roiding
no such thing unless you're on prescription TRT from a doctor, roidtroony
I unironically fantasize about sleeping with gym bros like this. It makes me have to discreetly hide boners quite often, especially on leg day.
Would roiding make it easier to attract them?
I find roid-shoulders extremely unappealing and ruin your overall physique.
I agree with this. The most aesthetic part of a fit body are the shoulders for me and roids deform them.
It's the opposite effect for me. The size/fullness makes me want to roughly grope them tbh
If I'm a coward because I don't inject black market chemicals, then call me Marcus Antonius
Troons.
As soon as you do enough of them to notice the results, you are already being irresponsible. I have to reject your premise.
Where can I buy it in Norway?
Fulmen
There is nothing more respectable then getting big as a natty, suck my dick from the back OP.
>Big
>Natty
Pick one, unless you mean bloatmaxing
I'm straight and I'm not trans
Okeedokee
A couple years back a guy in my town killed his gf and her 2 kids. He's saying and it's been kind of confirmed that it was roid rage. Guess I'm OK with just doing my best and living a normal life
>theres no reason not to put these Chinese chemicals in your body! 99 percent of the unvaxxed are just cowards!
now where have i heard that before....oops time for your booster OP!
>90 posts later
>Natties still seething
Lol