Few people seem to know that the glycogen found in the liver of animals is surprisingly similar to plant starch... Glycogen is also known as “animal starch” because, in plants, sugar or glucose is stored as starch—just like animals store their glucose in glycogen
...within seconds after death, the liver begins to unravel its glycogen stores. Over the next few hours, the glycogen turns into sugars, which then gets converted into lactic acid. In muscle meat, virtually all the glycogen converts to lactic acid within 24 hours and the color of the meat turns from purple to bright red or
pink.
…We cannot get quite as much carbohydrate from eating animal foods…because carbohydrates and proteins degrade soon after the animal dies, releasing glucose, which cells consume through anaerobic metabolism. This process removes carbohydrates from meat.
https://www.tumblr.com/johntropea/140746237751/who-says-the-inuits-didnt-eat-carbs?redirect_to=%2Fjohntropea%2F140746237751%2Fwho-says-the-inuits-didnt-eat-carbs
Dumb post. An average human liver stores about 100 grams of carbs in the form of glycogen, and the entirety of the human skeletal muscle stores 500 grams. Skeletal muscle is about 35% the weight of a human body, so on a 160lb animal we might have ~50lbs of muscle and a 4lb liver.
Nobody eats 4lbs of liver, so we can assume a person has ~8oz of liver. 12.5 grams of carbs from liver then.
They may also eat a lot of meat, maybe 3lbs. 10 grams of carbs per pound means 30 grams of carbs.
40 grams of carbs about, which would still leave them in ketosis assuming they exerted themselves a lot to get their kill.
how to you explain this then ?
"I have three different studies here (one from 1928, one from 1936 and one from 1972) and in each case, they were no ketones in any of the Inuits’ blood. None. Zip nada."
wouldnt really be possible to get high glycogen from meat.
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No it decays into lactic acid quickly post mortem. Even the freezing temps of the Arctic aren't cold enough. You would need to put it on liquid nitrogen to preserve much of the glycogen
Dumb post. An average human liver stores about 100 grams of carbs in the form of glycogen, and the entirety of the human skeletal muscle stores 500 grams. Skeletal muscle is about 35% the weight of a human body, so on a 160lb animal we might have ~50lbs of muscle and a 4lb liver.
Nobody eats 4lbs of liver, so we can assume a person has ~8oz of liver. 12.5 grams of carbs from liver then.
They may also eat a lot of meat, maybe 3lbs. 10 grams of carbs per pound means 30 grams of carbs.
40 grams of carbs about, which would still leave them in ketosis assuming they exerted themselves a lot to get their kill.
Humans have always eaten and valued carbs. Even bears which have far more carnivorous traits then us will gorge on berries and honey given the opportunity. Carnivore cultists are oblivious to this and don't realise that's why paleoithic humans prized the liver of animals and would eat it immediately still warm from the kill.
bears build up fat stores and hibernate the winter with no food other than body fat.
Yes, eating fruit, honey, berries to build body fat for that is advantageous to bears.
Heres the rub though, you aren't a bear, you don't hybernate the winter with no food, you have ample food through out the year and don't need to induce obesity with carbs.
Why are you being an asshole when you're wrong?
A single avocado has 4 grams of pufa(that is to say the max you should have in a day) and the rest of the fat is mufa which is neutral at best
when I was getting fat, I eat everything, especially carbs. when I stopped eating carbs and replaced those calories with meat, I got fitted, care to explain?
not that guy but
Lower glycemic index + hasn't been heated + doesn't have all the random junk they put into coke
being a nutrition reductionist is not a goof look btw
>Why is sugar from a fruit fine, but sugar from a coke is not?
not him but
it isn't. Fructose from one source or another is the same and makes you feel like shit the same.
I don't eat bananas for the same reason I don't eat sugar. a
Moxyte we all know you're a... challenged individual, but you have to do better photoshop for Pete's sake.
It's a mess, you can't center properly, the images aren't properly cut, they're not even centered.
Do better, we're used to your shit by now but you're not progressing in any way!
all these anti-keto or plant based threads are made by mostly a single mentally ill redditor named moxyte that spams fit about muh keto bad day and night.
He is obese, never posts body or lifts, because even he knows he is disgusting and weak.
Yet this person will simultaneously tell You how to eat day and night like a broken propaganda tape.
Its all so ridiculous.
He will continue to post images of other people and strawman to cope, but the fact is his mental insanity can exist only on the internet.
In real life everytime he would open his mouth people would laugh at him and tell him to shut the fuck up as he struggles for breath.
He gets banned for flooding, but it's only 72 hours. He just keep coming back.
It’s only you mentally ill ketoschizos who have been screeching about that gay for three years straight every fucking thread nonstop as if he personally hurt you, raped your mother, and killed your dog
>thousands upon thousands of images spammed > I DIDNT DO ANYTHING >people get fed up with your spaming and make a picture to mock your mental illness >hahah rent free obsessed, screeching
his numbers are likely hitting 50 000 spam posts by this point, if not more.
do other IST people actually give a shit about the debate with carbs? i'm stronger than 90% of this board and i eat carbs ,but I don't bother with arguing on this website. people will never want to admit when they are wrong over the internet so there is no point talking about it
carbs make me sick and unhealthy and my body certainly doesnt crave them. should i still eat carbs
Lietrally impossible UNLESS you are not human (ie amerimutt).
Wrong. Anytime I eat carbs I do get sick, they make my joints hurt and give me a stuffy nose.
>carbs make me sick
Mental illness.
>ignore the fat ketolards
I'm trying to, but you keep making posts about them.
SPBP
but it's also hilarious watching anti-keto retards fail to understand keto is for weight loss lol
Few people seem to know that the glycogen found in the liver of animals is surprisingly similar to plant starch... Glycogen is also known as “animal starch” because, in plants, sugar or glucose is stored as starch—just like animals store their glucose in glycogen
...within seconds after death, the liver begins to unravel its glycogen stores. Over the next few hours, the glycogen turns into sugars, which then gets converted into lactic acid. In muscle meat, virtually all the glycogen converts to lactic acid within 24 hours and the color of the meat turns from purple to bright red or
pink.
…We cannot get quite as much carbohydrate from eating animal foods…because carbohydrates and proteins degrade soon after the animal dies, releasing glucose, which cells consume through anaerobic metabolism. This process removes carbohydrates from meat.
https://www.tumblr.com/johntropea/140746237751/who-says-the-inuits-didnt-eat-carbs?redirect_to=%2Fjohntropea%2F140746237751%2Fwho-says-the-inuits-didnt-eat-carbs
Dumb post. An average human liver stores about 100 grams of carbs in the form of glycogen, and the entirety of the human skeletal muscle stores 500 grams. Skeletal muscle is about 35% the weight of a human body, so on a 160lb animal we might have ~50lbs of muscle and a 4lb liver.
Nobody eats 4lbs of liver, so we can assume a person has ~8oz of liver. 12.5 grams of carbs from liver then.
They may also eat a lot of meat, maybe 3lbs. 10 grams of carbs per pound means 30 grams of carbs.
40 grams of carbs about, which would still leave them in ketosis assuming they exerted themselves a lot to get their kill.
how to you explain this then ?
"I have three different studies here (one from 1928, one from 1936 and one from 1972) and in each case, they were no ketones in any of the Inuits’ blood. None. Zip nada."
got no clue i dont give a fuck about inuits
just saying they would not get high carbs from glycogen
well they did apparenlty if you read the tumblr link,
>i dont give a fuck about inuits
people who lived on fresh/frozen meat.. ok.
wouldnt really be possible to get high glycogen from meat.
No it decays into lactic acid quickly post mortem. Even the freezing temps of the Arctic aren't cold enough. You would need to put it on liquid nitrogen to preserve much of the glycogen
Humans have always eaten and valued carbs. Even bears which have far more carnivorous traits then us will gorge on berries and honey given the opportunity. Carnivore cultists are oblivious to this and don't realise that's why paleoithic humans prized the liver of animals and would eat it immediately still warm from the kill.
bears build up fat stores and hibernate the winter with no food other than body fat.
Yes, eating fruit, honey, berries to build body fat for that is advantageous to bears.
Heres the rub though, you aren't a bear, you don't hybernate the winter with no food, you have ample food through out the year and don't need to induce obesity with carbs.
mogs your carbs
As a ketolard, this stuff is far worse than an equivalent amount of carbs. Just a pufa bomb
Aren't avocados mostly mufa? Either way they're plant oils and inferior to more nutritious animal fats
>avocado
>pufa
falseflag or just retarded?
Why are you being an asshole when you're wrong?
A single avocado has 4 grams of pufa(that is to say the max you should have in a day) and the rest of the fat is mufa which is neutral at best
https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/171705/nutrients
when I was getting fat, I eat everything, especially carbs. when I stopped eating carbs and replaced those calories with meat, I got fitted, care to explain?
You’re lying. Simple as. You ketoschizos have been rampaging on this board so long without ever posting body nobody believes a thing you say
>You’re lying
I'm not. stay away from coke and any sugar added, fruits are fine just don't eat durian with alcohol
>fruits are fine
Why is sugar from a fruit fine, but sugar from a coke is not?
not that guy but
Lower glycemic index + hasn't been heated + doesn't have all the random junk they put into coke
being a nutrition reductionist is not a goof look btw
So it's... less bad because it's not processed?
>Why is sugar from a fruit fine, but sugar from a coke is not?
not him but
it isn't. Fructose from one source or another is the same and makes you feel like shit the same.
I don't eat bananas for the same reason I don't eat sugar. a
What are carbs? yes I'm this dumb, I do calisthenics.
Kys Moxyte.
Moxyte we all know you're a... challenged individual, but you have to do better photoshop for Pete's sake.
It's a mess, you can't center properly, the images aren't properly cut, they're not even centered.
Do better, we're used to your shit by now but you're not progressing in any way!
He's still not wrong though. Carbs are live.
Honestly if schizos like him are pro carbs that much, there must be something wrong with it.
I recommend a complete shutdown of any carbs entering your body until we can understand what is going on.
How to deal with strength loss on zero carb?
Can't say I noticed strength loss on zero carb.
I do nocarbs and haven't witnessed any strength difference. I bench the same amount.
all these anti-keto or plant based threads are made by mostly a single mentally ill redditor named moxyte that spams fit about muh keto bad day and night.
He is obese, never posts body or lifts, because even he knows he is disgusting and weak.
Yet this person will simultaneously tell You how to eat day and night like a broken propaganda tape.
Its all so ridiculous.
He will continue to post images of other people and strawman to cope, but the fact is his mental insanity can exist only on the internet.
In real life everytime he would open his mouth people would laugh at him and tell him to shut the fuck up as he struggles for breath.
projection much?
You’re somehow over coming your rapist by shilling anti keto on IST to a bunch of people that aren’t keto
I hope he finds you and rapes you again, gay
Keto is just retarded.
honestly moxyte been at it for 3 years now, how have the mods not banned him by this point?
He gets banned for flooding, but it's only 72 hours. He just keep coming back.
It’s only you mentally ill ketoschizos who have been screeching about that gay for three years straight every fucking thread nonstop as if he personally hurt you, raped your mother, and killed your dog
>spam and shit up IST daily, hourly, for literally 3 years straight
>uh uh uh its your fault for noticing!
You’re the only one doing that screeching about your Reddit nemesis ffs nonstop three years straight every thread se
>thousands upon thousands of images spammed
> I DIDNT DO ANYTHING
>people get fed up with your spaming and make a picture to mock your mental illness
>hahah rent free obsessed, screeching
his numbers are likely hitting 50 000 spam posts by this point, if not more.
i don't really get you all. if you want to cut just put more emphasis on protein but don't be so anal about other nutrients.
this post was made by cico gang
it’s just one schizo making the same thread. No here is even keto
do other IST people actually give a shit about the debate with carbs? i'm stronger than 90% of this board and i eat carbs ,but I don't bother with arguing on this website. people will never want to admit when they are wrong over the internet so there is no point talking about it