not at all. you could remove your stomach and colon and have the same weight loss effect. for normal people there is a linear relationship of how much you put in your face and how much calories you consume. of course you can make all sorts of fringe cases as described above.
Isn't the safety profile of this completely fucked? DNP seems safer
it just makes you eat less you absolute malinformed or lie spreading moron
not at all. you could remove your stomach and colon and have the same weight loss effect. for normal people there is a linear relationship of how much you put in your face and how much calories you consume. of course you can make all sorts of fringe cases as described above.
Yes, but CICO cultists will always change what they preach when presented evidence only to sink back to the usual retardation when they're proselytizing new victims. CICO cultists are just pre-vegans
Its weird how emotionally invested they are in this, i figure its to do with the idea that their weight is all due to their "willpower" which automatically puts them above the entire obese population
Your weight is due to your willpower. 99% of people that are fat or obese are that way because they carelessly overeat and live a sedentary lifestyle. Most people could easily reach a healthy bmi simply by not drinking their calories anymore through alcohol, soda, and sugary coffee
>What applies to me must also apply to everyone else.
Do you have 'insulin resistance'? If not, what would you know about the willpower required to simply restrict calories?
Sure, but restricting calories won't fix it. This is why people always rebound even when they manage to drop significant amounts of weight. People are bags of hormones. You have no idea how little control you have over your own body. The answer is to reverse the diabetes by restricting either fat or carbs from the diet.
CICO ceases to be a valid tool when neither CI nor CO can be accurately measured, and they are not consistent values, and different inputs of CI affect the value of CO.
I eat more than I ever used and am losing weight in the process. As I said CO is variable and will be increased based on nutritional inputs.
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Anonymous
>I eat more than I ever used and am losing weight
lies
tdee is a variable and is aproximate depends on height weight age physical activity etc.
food intake is variable, proteins have a lower real caloric value carbs from fruit and veg are slow release as opposed to refined sugar and more food =/= more calories
when you get down to brass tax anything that works for weightloss is effectively CICO
you can't eat more calories and have them dissappear they are going somewhere, either burned, stored as fat or pissed out if diabetic
it is literally impossible to eat above your tdee and lose weight
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nutrition affects your tdee. Your issue is assuming tdee can be calculated and is consistent based on simple metrics.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>assuming tdee can be calculated and is consistent
I'm literally saying it's not, it's a variable you can never have it perfectly you can only estimate and approximate
CICO doesn't mean I can eat X cheeseburgers and I'll be bellow tdee and therefore lose weight
you have retards for all diets I know ketolards who start the day with a whole pack of bacon dipped in mayo
the idea is being aware of nutrition and calorie intake
but even if you don't know the exact numbers for CI and CO there is no denying that more CI = weight gain and more CO = weight loss
simple as
>CUCO btfo
protein is complex and requires additional calorie expenditure to break down the nitrogen so you're technically only absorbing 70% of all calorie intake from protein as opposed to 99% from fats and carbs
when you eat tdee on majority protein diet you're actually eating well bellow your tdee
I know the concept of CICO is complex for brainlets because neither CI nor CO is a fixed number and varies
GIGO (goyslop in, goyslop out) retards are so annoying.
They are now trying to link diseases like diabetes with CICO. Diabetes is not caused because of excess calories. It is caused due to high carb and sugar diets even if your weight stays the same, yes obese people are at a higher risk but you dont have to be obese or overweight to get diabetes.
The amount of mental gymnastics CICO-tards try to pull is hilarious.
They don't though, you're just too retarded to realize that.
Idiot
not at all. you could remove your stomach and colon and have the same weight loss effect. for normal people there is a linear relationship of how much you put in your face and how much calories you consume. of course you can make all sorts of fringe cases as described above.
Isn't the safety profile of this completely fucked? DNP seems safer
Question toward DNP populatiry, is Metformin legal in the US?
DNP will cook you inside out, get the wrong dose and you dead
GLP-1 agonists will give you nausea and vomiting, very rare cases of pancreatitis
it just makes you eat less you absolute malinformed or lie spreading moron
ligmaglutide
>fixes your CO
Yes, but CICO cultists will always change what they preach when presented evidence only to sink back to the usual retardation when they're proselytizing new victims. CICO cultists are just pre-vegans
present evidence
Its weird how emotionally invested they are in this, i figure its to do with the idea that their weight is all due to their "willpower" which automatically puts them above the entire obese population
Your weight is due to your willpower. 99% of people that are fat or obese are that way because they carelessly overeat and live a sedentary lifestyle. Most people could easily reach a healthy bmi simply by not drinking their calories anymore through alcohol, soda, and sugary coffee
>What applies to me must also apply to everyone else.
Do you have 'insulin resistance'? If not, what would you know about the willpower required to simply restrict calories?
If you have insulin resistance its a consequence of your lack of willpower
Sure, but restricting calories won't fix it. This is why people always rebound even when they manage to drop significant amounts of weight. People are bags of hormones. You have no idea how little control you have over your own body. The answer is to reverse the diabetes by restricting either fat or carbs from the diet.
ASTRONOMICAL cope lmao
CICO ceases to be a valid tool when neither CI nor CO can be accurately measured, and they are not consistent values, and different inputs of CI affect the value of CO.
>eat more get fat
>eat less get slim
you don't need to have every calorie down to a T retard
I eat more than I ever used and am losing weight in the process. As I said CO is variable and will be increased based on nutritional inputs.
>I eat more than I ever used and am losing weight
lies
tdee is a variable and is aproximate depends on height weight age physical activity etc.
food intake is variable, proteins have a lower real caloric value carbs from fruit and veg are slow release as opposed to refined sugar and more food =/= more calories
when you get down to brass tax anything that works for weightloss is effectively CICO
you can't eat more calories and have them dissappear they are going somewhere, either burned, stored as fat or pissed out if diabetic
it is literally impossible to eat above your tdee and lose weight
Nutrition affects your tdee. Your issue is assuming tdee can be calculated and is consistent based on simple metrics.
>assuming tdee can be calculated and is consistent
I'm literally saying it's not, it's a variable you can never have it perfectly you can only estimate and approximate
CICO doesn't mean I can eat X cheeseburgers and I'll be bellow tdee and therefore lose weight
you have retards for all diets I know ketolards who start the day with a whole pack of bacon dipped in mayo
the idea is being aware of nutrition and calorie intake
but even if you don't know the exact numbers for CI and CO there is no denying that more CI = weight gain and more CO = weight loss
simple as
>their weight is all due to their "willpower" which automatically puts them above the entire obese population
It does. Obese are subhuman scum.
Keep your maintenence calories the same but adjust your protein macro up while lowering fat and carb intake.
You will lose bodyfat. CICO btfo.
>Keep your maintenence calories the same but do these things that reduce intake through increased satiation
BTFO indeed.
>CUCO btfo
protein is complex and requires additional calorie expenditure to break down the nitrogen so you're technically only absorbing 70% of all calorie intake from protein as opposed to 99% from fats and carbs
when you eat tdee on majority protein diet you're actually eating well bellow your tdee
I know the concept of CICO is complex for brainlets because neither CI nor CO is a fixed number and varies
picrel
As if fatties are any different from any other addict. Would you say the same thing to alcoholics and methheads?
Yes. Please die now.,
No they dont. GLP1 agonists help with weight loss by suppressing hunger, basically
GIGO (goyslop in, goyslop out) retards are so annoying.
They are now trying to link diseases like diabetes with CICO. Diabetes is not caused because of excess calories. It is caused due to high carb and sugar diets even if your weight stays the same, yes obese people are at a higher risk but you dont have to be obese or overweight to get diabetes.
The amount of mental gymnastics CICO-tards try to pull is hilarious.