This is a S-tier back exercise and I'm tired of pretending it isn't just because some grifting youtuber says otherwise

This is a S-tier back exercise and I'm tired of pretending it isn't just because some grifting youtuber says otherwise

  1. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's nice but I prefer using DBs. Neither BB or curl BB feels right on the wrists.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yep, it's goat.
      Entire trap and shoulder complex get a massive pump, no pain at all either.

      My upper back has exploded since I incorporated these

      Ok look , I will give this exercise a try. But how wide should I grip to hit the traps and side delts?
      What is the best grip?

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        cheers, I'll give them a go

        I like Bald Omni-man's tutorial

        ?t=275

        Traps will be hit no matter how hold it. For side delts I find that focusing on a good squeeze at the top maximizes side delt activation, but you'll have to experiment with grip width and find the one that feels the best for you.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous
  2. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    My shoulders feel very funny when I'm doing it so I don't risk it

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Use a wider snatch grip and only pull to right above your nipples.

  3. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yep, it's goat.
    Entire trap and shoulder complex get a massive pump, no pain at all either.

    My upper back has exploded since I incorporated these

  4. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >G-G-GONNA... IMPINGE

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      > do facepulls instead!!!!
      > * is literally impingement: the movement *

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      > do facepulls instead!!!!
      > * is literally impingement: the movement *

      Nobody can even tell me what a shoulder impingement is. It's something made up by PTs to scam you out of money.

      these aren't any better than anything else that works the same muscles

      They're time efficient, you train all the heads of the shoulder, the traps, your grip and to some extent even your biceps

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        are they really not dangerous or is still an elaborate troll? I've never done them. they hit all the heads of the delts and the lats?

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          They are not dangerous if you avoid egolifting
          Way more people hurt themselves on bench press and squats and whatever, yet everyone still does them.

          Yes they work all heads of the deltoids if you do them properly, I'm not saying they work them BETTER than any specific isolation exercise just that they work all of them at the same time. They don't work lats that much, it's primarily an trap and shoulders exercise

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            cheers, I'll give them a go

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          >are they really not dangerous or is still an elaborate troll?
          There are no exercises that are dangerous if they are done with the appropriate volume and intensity. That these are regarded as dangerous is not an elaborate troll, its a misconception. Its a myth. Its a meme. AthleanX said they where bad, and everyone believed him, and thus it became to be regarded a a truth.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        jake kaminski actually does a pretty good description within his own discipline. I looked into it some more to try and fine a compromise between old chinese draw and modern, no dice.
        Elbow does not go above chest at specific rotations, that's just it. Same as doing skull crushers wrong.

  5. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    these aren't any better than anything else that works the same muscles

  6. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    everyone that gets fucked doing them is because they go heavy and swing the weight instead of doing light weight slow movement

  7. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Dont make me tap the sign

  8. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    It sucks. Worse trap pump than shrugs. Worse side delt pump than lat raises.

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