Thoughts on YouTube Fitness Personalities?

>Greg Doucette
Started out pretty good, giving simple, practical advice because you don't need to get into technical research lit if you're a beginner, you just have to "go harder than last time." Called out bullshit. However, he seemed overly hostile to other people who do like getting into the technical science shit. Spent too much time on drama, but admitted he did that for views to draw people to his more informative videos. Over time, he became the very kind of money-grubbing, misinfo-spreading shill he hates, shilling shitty products and giving bad advice.

>Athlean X
I'd trust him when it comes to prehab/rehab anatomy shit. Not when it comes to strength or hypertrophy. Releases new stupid workouts just for the sake of putting out content. There's no reason to have 15 "ultimate ab routine" workout videos. Also, fake weights.

>Jeremy Ethier
Doesn't even have that good of a physique. He's just lean. A mix of good science-based info and overgeneralizing from some single underpowered PubMed study for the sake of putting out content and looking smart.

>Mike Israetel
Actually understands the science he cites and how applicable it is. However, most of us probably don't really need to watch a 20-minute video about which bicep curl produces slightly more hypertrophy than the rest. He knows what he's talking about, but it's kinda in the weeds and maybe only people actually competing should care.

>Scott Herman
I do not for a second believe that is his real accent. However, he does good exercise demos. A lot of his later content became picking on people who give dumb advice on TikTok because that's easy to do, but hey, you can only do so many videos on exercise form. Also, he has a great physique that looks most like what a normal person would aspire to, because most people don't want to look like Doucette or Israetel.

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Jeff Nippard
    He's got the personality of oatmeal and always fails when he tries to be funny, but his info is pretty good. Not as deep as Israetel, but he has a much better claim to being "science-based" than Ethier.

    >AlphaDestiny
    I don't remember what his content is actually like. I just remember he has funny mannerisms and speech that make him seem genuine and likeable.

    >RevivalFitness
    Did a much needed dressing down of Doucette, but I don't get why he thinks consistently going close to failure is dumb ego lifting. If you've got the safety measures to do it, it's a great way to progress.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Buff Dudes
      Pretty good for form checks

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Alan thrall
        Distills down the good parts of starting strength into non autistic videos. Natty, outlifts rippletits, and recently got fucking shredded

        The only two channels that matter as far as I’m concerned. Scott Herman is good too but I can’t take him seriously when he looks and sounds like the douchebag boyfriend from Scary Movie.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Buff Dudes

        > Alan thrall
        Distills down the good parts of starting strength into non autistic videos. Natty, outlifts rippletits, and recently got fucking shredded

        >Alan thrall

        Forgot about these guys. Yeah, I like them. Thrall has that one video about how "imbalances"/asymmetrical strength isn't that bad, which sounds obvious after he says it.

        >greg douchette
        pathological liar (lies about prior steroid use, conviction, TRT amount), scammer (turkesterone), so use to being on gear his cookbook consists of low fat foods that will ruin a natural's HPTA and gives hilariously bad advice about how to gain muscle

        >athlean x
        don't watch but another pathological liar (fake weights, juicer but claims natty.)

        >jeremy ethier
        never watched

        >mike israetel
        pathological liar (claims difference between maximum natty strength and steroids is only about 10%), slave to scientific literature

        >scott herman
        never watched

        >jeff nippard
        another fake natty but doesn't lie quite as pathologically

        >alphadestiny
        never watched

        >revivalfitness
        like anon said, said everything that needed to be said about greg. i think something is wrong with him or something though. his demographic is clearly natural people but he always does this "fear of needles" shit (projection?) always came off kind of weird to me. says you can grow into abs lol

        >alan thrall
        down to earth, good content

        >moreplatesmoredates
        knew derrick from GLL before he blew up. advocates super low doses to shut down your testes for no reason, slave to scientific literature (with some exclusions like advocating higher protein ingestion for gear users,) uses fancy words for no reason. alright for some aspects of cycle design

        >geoffrey verity
        he's alright, content is a bit milquetoast but good for natural lifters. absolutely TERRIBLE takes on calorie counting though.

        Because I'm not interested in gear or which celebrities/bodybuilders are natural, a lot of his content doesn't interest me. But he has some interesting videos on other topics.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Greg also deleted the good recipe videos to shill his shitty cookbook.

        https://i.imgur.com/vvcFKOU.jpg

        [...]

        The only two channels that matter as far as I’m concerned. Scott Herman is good too but I can’t take him seriously when he looks and sounds like the douchebag boyfriend from Scary Movie.

        >Buff Dudes
        [...]
        >Alan thrall

        Forgot about these guys. Yeah, I like them. Thrall has that one video about how "imbalances"/asymmetrical strength isn't that bad, which sounds obvious after he says it.

        [...]

        Because I'm not interested in gear or which celebrities/bodybuilders are natural, a lot of his content doesn't interest me. But he has some interesting videos on other topics.

        Buff dudes are genuinely good dudes. Idk about Brandon, he is iffy but Hudson is natty. I think the buff dudes are starting to fall off the algorithm but I always enjoyed their content and it motivates me.

        Will Tenny is good but it seems all he can do are long form tiktok challenges on YT. His one Video about the punching is funny cause any fan that walks up and mentions it looks like they've never lifted a weight before leading me to believe any fitness YouTuber fan is a dyel or doesn't even lift. (I'd put myself in dyel category)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >RevivalFitness
      Hate this cuck.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >RevivalFitness
      Hate this cuck.

      >RevivalFitness
      The only one I'd actually believe to be a true incel/gymcel
      He has such a shitty personality, not shitty in the way of Greg Doucette, but actual shitty IST tier personality

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Alan thrall
    Distills down the good parts of starting strength into non autistic videos. Natty, outlifts rippletits, and recently got fucking shredded

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Great channel, can tell he's an earnest guy

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like that dude jonny shreve

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      he cucks for his friend Greg doucette.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I dont care. I like his videos and i am going to keep watching them anon.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    All you need to get shredded is Blahino, Janoy Cresva, and old Pianoman clips.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      don't forget Jason Genova

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'd trust him when it comes to prehab/rehab anatomy shit.
    and that is where you shouldn't trust him. Because that is where he is the most wrong and does the most damage.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where is he wrong? He gives pretty solid no-nonsense advice

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Jujimufu
    Had a great run from 2018 through 2021, then put his humorless fat sow of a wife behind the camera and it all went to shit. He wouldn't have had such a massive view count drop off if I was still editing the videos.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tom pls

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >greg douchette
    pathological liar (lies about prior steroid use, conviction, TRT amount), scammer (turkesterone), so use to being on gear his cookbook consists of low fat foods that will ruin a natural's HPTA and gives hilariously bad advice about how to gain muscle

    >athlean x
    don't watch but another pathological liar (fake weights, juicer but claims natty.)

    >jeremy ethier
    never watched

    >mike israetel
    pathological liar (claims difference between maximum natty strength and steroids is only about 10%), slave to scientific literature

    >scott herman
    never watched

    >jeff nippard
    another fake natty but doesn't lie quite as pathologically

    >alphadestiny
    never watched

    >revivalfitness
    like anon said, said everything that needed to be said about greg. i think something is wrong with him or something though. his demographic is clearly natural people but he always does this "fear of needles" shit (projection?) always came off kind of weird to me. says you can grow into abs lol

    >alan thrall
    down to earth, good content

    >moreplatesmoredates
    knew derrick from GLL before he blew up. advocates super low doses to shut down your testes for no reason, slave to scientific literature (with some exclusions like advocating higher protein ingestion for gear users,) uses fancy words for no reason. alright for some aspects of cycle design

    >geoffrey verity
    he's alright, content is a bit milquetoast but good for natural lifters. absolutely TERRIBLE takes on calorie counting though.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing revolutionary, new, or exotic that any fitness "personality" can provide you. They're there for entertainment, and once they find their niche they're going to have to pander hard (if they want to stay in business). They're more actors than actual gurus. Online "friends" for lonely people.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Geoffrey Verity Schoefield. Agree with most all of your assessment btw

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      underrated
      Also he actually responds, I've talked to him a few times
      He has just the right amount of energy for all his stuff, isn't turning red and screaming like doucette nor monotonous as fuck like jeff nippard. Has the most practical advice.

      >RevivalFitness
      Hate this cuck.

      I don't know why but that dude pisses me off. Just don't like his face of his attitude. Also he is going to hop on steroids later lol

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This and I would also add
      >jeff
      >natural hypertrophy
      >bald omni man

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >YouTube Fitness Personalities?

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Barbell Medicine (Austin Baraki & Jordan Feigenbaum)
    Both medical doctors who stay up to date on current medical research. Lots of good info on training, nutrition and rehab, as well as how to approach them as you age. Possibly fake natties but they've both been training hard for 10+ years so it's hard to say.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >get the jab goy
      >seed oils good for you goy
      >saturated fat and cholesterol should be limited goy
      >don't work too hard goy
      >stay lean and spin your wheels goy
      >I don't take steroids goy
      >TRT does nothing in terms of muscle gains goy
      SUCK MY BIG UNCIRCUMCISED COCK YOU FUCKING RAT

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      His traps are insane, wtf

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The best fitness influencers in no order, mainly because they aren't spewing bad advice, and call out bullshit in the industry like "muh test boost" etc.

    >Sean nalewanyj
    >Alan Thrall
    >Layne Norton aka Biolayne

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me it’s the Buff Dudes and Dan John. I usually play something when working out but that’s about it.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like him.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      elough eutub

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I liked how he made Revival sit the fuck down. That guy needs a dose of reality.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting ideas both on training/programming and other topics. I find myself often pausing his videos to reflect on my own thoughts on the topic, even written a few pages about some of the videos

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I like him.
      Well he is one of us after all.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I dislike him but I like his videos and goals and spreading natural hypertrophy

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody alive is worth listening to. The only way to get worthwhile advice and ideas is from dead people because their words have withstood the test of time.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sperg

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Bioneer

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >greg doucette
    I agree with your assessment, but I do love watching him yell at fat people's bullshit. Roided out manlet shouting at fat people. Its great. He gives himself an aneurysm so I don't have to reading fat people talk about how they're "eating less" or "dieted" but it "didn't work" etc.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    They all suck.
    >but what about...
    He sucks too. They're not experts. The best channels are the ones with like 10k subs max who are trying to figure it out just like everyone else. The "experts" are all bullshit artists.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The one that i always enjoyed was Mountaingod.

    Never hid his gear use, never got into drama, his advice was incredibly simple and he always tried to make sure that exercise he recommends were possible to do in any gym. Such a shame, man...

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mountaindog I assume you mean? Yes I agree, he was based. I enjoyed his videos with Dave Tate.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    mike israel is ok but has gotten into clickbait shit and his videos suck now. also clearly him and his crew are in a rut and arent doing anything interesting. tell charly to go back to making leather jackets.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    right now i only watch NH and bald omni man. GVS from time to time. Israetel sometimes if there's something interesting i hadn't heard before.

    I used to be on Athlean X's channel all the fucking time back in like 2013-2015. Man, how things change.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Trustworthy
    >Natural Hypertrophy
    >Bald Omni Man
    >Geoffrey Verity Schofield
    >Sean Nalewanyj
    >Vitruvian Physique
    >Jeff Nippard
    >Scott Herman Fitness
    >The Bioneer
    >Alphadestiny
    >Renaissance Periodization
    >Alan Thrall
    >Enkiri Elite Fitness

    Average/Mid
    >Revival Fitness
    >Biolayne

    Junk
    >Athlean X
    >Greg Doucette
    >More Plates More Dates
    >Buff Dudes

    The most annoying ones on this list are Athlean X and Greg Doucette. They post mostly clickbaity videos with little to no information or they regurgitate same bullshit again and again.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      kino list but cut down on youtube brother. these are too many channels to follow

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Bald Omni Man
      Everyone always has high praise for him, but he seems like a grifter.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      good post

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      top tier list based anon. i cant stand greg's squeaky voice

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Vitruvian Physique

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't follow them at all.

    If I have time to wind down with YouTube I'll usually watch ABC News stuff - just finished watching the latest Media Watch.

    When it comes to fitness I just google what I need to know and don't care who tells me. I get the impression these cults of personality are why IST (and the internet more broadly) is so schizophrenic.

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Jeff Nippard
    I don't understand how most people see him as being more trustworthy than other fit toobers.
    He's not just a fake natty, his whole persona is painfully fake. Also, Stephanie Buttermore is just Jeff Nippard for girls and equally as fake.

    >Alpha Destiny
    A real bro, maybe gay.

    >Mountaindog1
    Best fit toober is literally a dead man.

    >Greg Doucette
    Was okay for a bit, 90% of his videos are of just him watching another video and summarizing it's content.
    Super Lazy content. Also, his cookbook is shit.

    >Mike Israetel
    Enjoy his videos. I never implement his advice.

    >Scott Herman
    Massive gay

    >Athlean X
    Same opinion as op

    >Eugene Teo
    Legitimately good content

    >Moreplatesmoredates
    I don't consider him a fit toober. Fit toober adjacent.
    Not bad, a few decent videos.

    I don't watch any powerlifting channels anymore.

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    will tennyson is one of the content creators of all time

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek
      This kid's alright but a lot of his stuff is honestly pointless. Like who gives a fuck about a bro eating

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        i quite like him. his humour isn't as forced as most other fitness youtubas

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Retard hands typed this

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Unfunny meme, so stale by now

        stop seething and get off the computer will. go train your calves you leglet.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unfunny meme, so stale by now

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      le porn joke for the 500th time
      bro come on

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Not when it comes to strength or hypertrophy.

    Jeff doesn't look strong and hypertrophic to you?

    as one of the rare IST posters with an education in this field, he's really one of the only people you should be listening to. he repeats his videos because it's an enterprise that makes money. every single one of these people does this.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      fake
      weights

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        literally meaningless. used for demonstration so he doesn't tire himself out and cause injury when making a video, completely pointlessly. if you can't look past bravado to logic, well, that's why i have a degree in this stuff and you don't have a degree.

        jeff's advice is good and jeff's physique looks fucking amazing. of course he's on T

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jeffbros seethe

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >feeling the need to point out you have a degree twice in two posts completely unsolicited

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I feel the need to point it out because this is a board full of meathead young idiots who believe stupid shit they read online and then repeat it to each other ad infinitum.

            If you know anything about the reality of the fitness world, for the past infinite number of years, you know this has never changed, and hence you recognize the value of people who ACTUALLY know what the fuck they're talking about.

            I have the CREDENTIALS to tell you that Jeff is the most meaningful person you can listen to in general. So LISTEN to someone who KNOWS for once in your LIFE zoomiezoom. :))

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Should I do the bosu ball balancing act he preached back on the functional days?

              Or maybe the curl your own leg for massive 'ceps?

              Or maybe I should exhale the air our of my lungs while squatting?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Holy fucking cringe
              >breathe out before you squat
              HAHAHAHAHA
              >do 10x10 with 80% orm
              OH NO NO NO
              >pt's the mets during their most injurious season
              PFTTTTTT HAHAHA
              >been lifting for decades for a 4pl8 deadlift
              HOOOOOOOOOO
              >lies to an audience of millions of noobs about his drug usage and how strong he is
              BAAAA HAAAA
              >t-twust him guise
              *sides launch into orbit*

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                hows that huge deadlift total making your body look

                like total shit compared to a 45 year old guy right? 🙂

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                A 45 year old guy who you claim is on drugs
                My legs are bigger than his btw

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >bigger
                and you still look like shit because you do powerlifting compound exercises and eschew brosplits.

                fitness isn't about having high totals. that's completely and totally outside the realm of consideration, desire, or interest for 99% of people. sorry bro, your fetishism just isn't applicable to most of life.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lmfao dis bro is chudhurt because I insulted his e-daddy who he knows lies but sucks his dick anyway, so pathetic
                You're also ultra fixated on making fun of his deadlift, you're probably very insecure about yours
                p.s. i think deadlifts are relatively useless and i don't really do them; ur just angry and need something to latch onto

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't do deadlifts as I have a patellar tendon tear.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >oh how about i skip compounds that strengthen my tendons because nobody cares about totals
                >WAHHHH MY TENDON WAHHH WAHH
                Kek
                Retards deserve to get hurt honestly, now go suck the sweat off jeff caveliere's ballsack to rehab it

                [...]
                oh holy shit i didn't even look at the pic this is what you're bragging so much over? aaaaaaahahahahha jesus no wonder you write like a little child

                your legs are fucking tiny lmao

                You're so incredibly asshurt it's hilarious, PLEASE post body with timestamp next to a doorknob so we can all laugh at you
                >muh degree
                Fucking virgin lmao

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Say, fellas, how tall you reckon one of them white blocks making up the wall is?

                >next to a doorknob
                ?? you're visibly short as fuck bro lmao holy fuck

                this is what happens to your brain when you use sarms and look like you lifted for 2 months despite the fact

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you're visibly short as fuck bro lmao holy fuck
                That's true.
                Half an inch taller than jeff caveliere though LMAO
                >y-you look like you're enhanced but also you're dyel
                Throwing spaghetti at a wall. Maybe if you were talking about

                https://i.imgur.com/OHlemzm.jpg

                A 45 year old guy who you claim is on drugs
                My legs are bigger than his btw

                it would make sense.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>y-you look like you're enhanced but also you're dyel

                dumb fuck can't even read an INSULT for comprehension, LMAO

                no my friend you 100% do not look enhanced

                btw i'm 40 and my legs are bigger than you WITH NO DEADLIFTS OR SQUATS
                HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAH

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are LITERALLY a 40 year old virgin having a meltdown because someone said jeff "bosu ball" caveliere sucks lmfao
                >my legs are bigger
                Probably dude, you sound fat as shit. Why don't you post them so we can see how big you really are?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why else would you assume he used sarms other than a photo retard
                Also calm the fuck down gay

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't do deadlifts as I have a patellar tendon tear.

                oh holy shit i didn't even look at the pic this is what you're bragging so much over? aaaaaaahahahahha jesus no wonder you write like a little child

                your legs are fucking tiny lmao

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Say, fellas, how tall you reckon one of them white blocks making up the wall is?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                That is a garage door dumbass

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                hmm so one should be approx 21 inches tall
                and hes 3 on tippy toes

                YIKES.

                HAHAHAHAHHA HOH NO
                OH NO NO NO NO

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Garage door heights are fairly standardised at 8 ft tall and typically subdivided into 4 segments.
                That would made 3 tall 6 feet but he's obviously on tiptoes so probably 5'9-5'-10

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >my legs are bigger than his
                >also 20% BF

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm like 18

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nice traps. That separation between the traps and the rest is nice. Makes em look fucking huge. Train them more and trapmax

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                thanks anon, i think i might start training them several times a week because i dont really deadlift right now and it shouldn't take too long. might also consider directly training neck lol

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes because people who want to build actual muscle aren't afraid to lose their abs lol
                Or you could lift hard for 25 years and take trt to get the same progress as a natty with a few cut/bulk cycles under their belt because greg garden gnomeshitte told you to maingain

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                ok fatty

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No body posted
                DYEL

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                he's right
                upper teen's bf% is only gross if you have no muscle. in fact you actually look BETTER in clothes.
                this will depend on genetics but so long as you can see a bicep vein youre fine imo

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You need to be a DYEL to take Athlean X seriously, it's a necessary condition

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                holy cope

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's only 45 (actually 47)? I thought he was mid-later 50's, holy shit.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                he stays way too lean, he'd look younger and less alien-like with just a bit more fat on him

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Post body

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >used for demonstration so he doesn't tire himself out and cause injury when making a video
          Why don'y you just put less weight on the bar, Jeff?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because then idiots like you will call him weak

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Jeff doesn't look strong and hypertrophic to you?
      No
      He has to use fake weights for everything to put up respectable numbers and also shrimp backed and screamed picking up 405 lmao

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      literally meaningless. used for demonstration so he doesn't tire himself out and cause injury when making a video, completely pointlessly. if you can't look past bravado to logic, well, that's why i have a degree in this stuff and you don't have a degree.

      jeff's advice is good and jeff's physique looks fucking amazing. of course he's on T

      >Garbage advice, garbage programming, even his rehab shit is only sometimes usefull. literall 0/10 charlatan. His physical therapy bias is so huge, he has to fearmonger to justify his overengineered programming. If every one of his views happened to find and read starting strength then the average gym goer would be a much less bigger gay.
      LOLOLOL okay gay, I have a degree and I think Jeff is the best? What do you have?
      Fucking nothing, sit the fuck down zoomzoom 😉

      >i have a degree
      Kys gay
      Or better yet, post your degree with nothing censored

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's scooby, alphadestiny, team3dalpha, summer huntington, and the bioneer. Simple as.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >scooby

      narcissistic decades-long roider
      >muh I DID ALL THIS WITH MY LIFE
      wow, congratulations on being a fucking boomer.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >summer huntington

      ugly roastie

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    AthleanX has some useful specific info but shit channel overall.
    Doucette is entertaining when he's shitting on influencers, but gets annoying after a while.
    For me it's always gonna be Piana and the misfits.
    🙁

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >after a while.

      if you can tolerate 5 minutes of that fag's voice, then you must be a fag.

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >this whole thread
    summer break should have ended like a month ago

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    how does IST feel about joe fazer

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      in shape. Good. Keep it up

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    fitness is solved for the average person. no point in watching so many youtube channels

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've watched hundreds of hours of yt fitness as far back as 2015 and agree. But people still fuck it up and its good to know the back theory to stuff

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Actually understands the science he cites and how applicable it is

    No he doesn't, this retarded dwarf was pushing 50 sets a body part at one point with hilarious meme studies he was involved in

    He also refuses to look at the meta analysis of frequency studies post the 2017 one he loves so much, since the current science says one session a week is the same as 3 sessions with zero difference in results

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's far easier to get people to exercise a few times a week for less time rather than one giant long session. It's also much easier on the joints. A 12 week study is definitely not going to pick up the wear and tear that happens on the joints over the course of years of doing infrequent but very intense workouts.

      There are giant limitations with controlled studies, and when you have clients in the real world, things are much different.

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would say fitness content on YouTube can be categorised in two different ways, Entertainment and informative videos.

    For entertainment, It doesn't have to be a skit or humour, you're just watching it for fun. Like natty or not vids are entertainment, drama videos are (shit) entertainment etc, vlogs and stuff, and ranting about shitty tik toks or whatever are aswell.

    I will only be giving thoughs on informative youtubers.

    >mike israetel
    actually good. Best programming (for hypertrophy) by a lot. He has good knowledge in the labs and in the trenches considering he programs and trains actually big people. Alot of technical details if you care for that are good, that being said, i've never really applied them so obviously. Also he is well articulated and a good communicator.

    >Athlean x
    Garbage advice, garbage programming, even his rehab shit is only sometimes usefull. literall 0/10 charlatan. His physical therapy bias is so huge, he has to fearmonger to justify his overengineered programming. If every one of his views happened to find and read starting strength then the average gym goer would be a much less bigger gay.

    >Jeff Nippard
    some useful advice, though overengeneers programing. Out of all the "science based training" people, mike israetel is the best by a lot. That being said jeff nippard also happens to be an insufferable gay. 3/10. really this also goes for Jeremy ethier

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Garbage advice, garbage programming, even his rehab shit is only sometimes usefull. literall 0/10 charlatan. His physical therapy bias is so huge, he has to fearmonger to justify his overengineered programming. If every one of his views happened to find and read starting strength then the average gym goer would be a much less bigger gay.
      LOLOLOL okay gay, I have a degree and I think Jeff is the best? What do you have?
      Fucking nothing, sit the fuck down zoomzoom 😉

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What do you have?
        gains and bitches

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I have a degree
        Appeal to authority
        Dont bother responding, for I am right and you are wrong

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I have a degree
        Did you post body yet?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why did you end your sentence with a question mark when you didn't ask a question? I have noticed it's mostly women and effeminate gays who do this.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Barbell Medicine

      https://i.imgur.com/6q9F6BP.jpg

      >Barbell Medicine (Austin Baraki & Jordan Feigenbaum)
      Both medical doctors who stay up to date on current medical research. Lots of good info on training, nutrition and rehab, as well as how to approach them as you age. Possibly fake natties but they've both been training hard for 10+ years so it's hard to say.

      agree

      >alan

      > Alan thrall
      Distills down the good parts of starting strength into non autistic videos. Natty, outlifts rippletits, and recently got fucking shredded

      agree

      >Geoffrey Verity Schofield
      >Natural hypertrophy
      I like though don't watch often

      >Enkiri
      good, has a nice niche and has dismantled athleanx shit content.

      >Starting strength the book
      The programming is too much lower body. That being said, 90% of people just binge watch fitness content (athlean x and jeff nippart primarilly) and think they're learning alot about fitness, analogously its like clicking random page of wiki, reading it, repeat and thinking you're leaning. The book starting strength has a complete and deliberate way of communicating 90% of what beginners need to learn while being a decent read aswell. It actually teaches you how to do exercises. No bull shit, no overengineering.
      I personally did SS with less lower body volume and more upper body volume when I first started working out properly (Before then I was following shit advice from athlean x, with my own garbage overengineered programming, actual waste of my time). Also I did behind the neck presses rather then regular presses, because I like them more.

      >rippetoe himself
      Dogmatic, but his dogmatism is still 1000% better then the retardation on youtube. more or less his podcasts are less about fitness , just him talking about the vaccine or whatever.

      also im sub 11% bodyfat if anyone is wondering.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      as someone with shoulder impingement / spondye-boisthesis grade 2 l5-s1 / a hip labral tear I'll say that jeff's advice is the best for reducing and improving injuries, and my physical therapists over the last 10 years that I've had these issues have been impressed with my knowledge on rehabbing my body and utilizing exercises that are much safer yet still build muscle.

      Once you grow up and start accruing injuries / recovery starts to tank, you'll start to find this type of advice much more useful.

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dr Shawn Baker

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I only check whats posted here for the memes/lolcowism.
    I'm 6'3 and white so I dont follow/watch/keep up with any tube celebs , especially fitness ones.

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Doesn't even have that good of a physique
    He has a good natty fiziiq

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Jordan Peterson
    Started lifting because I didn't want to end up weak like him

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Nick's Strength and Power
    Started as drama, became ten minute update clips.

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's vitruvian physique even when he whips out his white board and does schizo math inventing the units as he needs it, I find that shit hilarious. And natural hypertrophy, pretty solid guy. Don't really care for the other tubers, don't really like watching YouTube for that long honestly, if I'm already sitting down at my desk I much rather just play videogames

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    snekboy

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >different lighting
      >shaved/waxed torso
      >pump + flexed vs puffing out gut, arching back and pulling head back to give appearance of doublechin on left
      probably took the left pic in the morning, shaved, then went to the park in the afternoon to take the right pic

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cole has been good in the past but he's been contradicting himself too much lately. He'll say one thing is the best thing ever and then a few weeks later he'll turn around 180 degrees and say the opposite. He was more consistent years ago.

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Isratel
    Yes he is the GOAT for technique advice. However, he is a fucking retard about steroids. His basic piece of advice is, if you use, use orals only. This is terrible advice because it is very clear by now that a testosterone base should be the foundation of 99% of cycles. Orals will fuck your liver and crash your testosterone without a test base.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >His basic piece of advice is, if you use, use orals only.
      No, he says use it for one, short cycle, before you should start injecting. You do this to test the waters without putting yourself at to much risk.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        aren't orals worse for your liver with no real benefit over injecting?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, which is why he tells you to do it for one, short cycle and decide if you want to inject long-term.
          Logic is that orals are easier to come off if you have a bad experience and your natural test production restarts quicker.
          He is aware that it's dogshit for your liver over any longer timeframe and tells you as much.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        jesus fucking christ what are actually decent programs then...

        > SL and SS too much lower not enough volume
        > RP too much volume not enough intensity

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Keyboard lifters always find something to criticize. Didn't read btw.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          See

          Mountaindog I assume you mean? Yes I agree, he was based. I enjoyed his videos with Dave Tate.

          . You'd really enjoy the High Evolutionary program.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          SL and SS are great for complete beginners. relatively tiny time commitment since your untrained body is so sensative to training, and you increase your lifts every single session by 5lb each. If you either don't lift consistently on a good program with some sort of progressive overload, or even if you just haven't lifted for 6+ weeks, SL or SS or some sort of program with linear progression is a good idea. after you're no longer progressing on SL or SS, DON'T just keep deloading and continue that program. It's time for a higher volume intermediate program.
          n-suns (yes unironically) worked great for me, though it takes an ungodly amount of time every day. Don't remember the exact starting numbers but I ended up benching 3pl8, pulling 5pl8, and squatting 345x3 after adding 5lb nearly every week for 6ish months.
          yes my squat sucks, I was only benching and deadlifting for a while before running n-suns because I like them and hate squatting.
          no idea what a good intermediate program for hypertrophy is

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          SL and SS are great for complete beginners. relatively tiny time commitment since your untrained body is so sensative to training, and you increase your lifts every single session by 5lb each. If you either don't lift consistently on a good program with some sort of progressive overload, or even if you just haven't lifted for 6+ weeks, SL or SS or some sort of program with linear progression is a good idea. after you're no longer progressing on SL or SS, DON'T just keep deloading and continue that program. It's time for a higher volume intermediate program.
          n-suns (yes unironically) worked great for me, though it takes an ungodly amount of time every day. Don't remember the exact starting numbers but I ended up benching 3pl8, pulling 5pl8, and squatting 345x3 after adding 5lb nearly every week for 6ish months.
          yes my squat sucks, I was only benching and deadlifting for a while before running n-suns because I like them and hate squatting.
          no idea what a good intermediate program for hypertrophy is

          greg nuckols' 28 free training programs on the stronger by science website (it's a mix and match sort of thing based on your goals and experience) looks good too, though I haven't tried it yet

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know who I'd take bodybuilding advice from? This guy.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              good thing he doesn't sell bodybuilding programs then
              >350/750/735 @ 242lb
              can't deny the man is an absolute beast of a powerlifter, and to be a world class powerlifter in that weight class you need to be fat.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >This is terrible advice because it is very clear by now that a testosterone base should be the foundation of 99% of cycles.
      This isn't clear at all. Stop relying on getting all of your information from More Depression More Hairline Recession, the guy is a retard. Look up Broderick Chavez if you want information that is actually good.

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not a single mention of the GOAT Daniel Vadnal

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good, I was about to say. I know fit is not crazy about calisthenics but there are some great YouTubers in that group

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Blue Shorts Guy gang is also very good

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not 1 mention of our boy hemmingway

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't watch any of them anymore, kinda see through them. They all either use drugs or deliberately over complicate lifting in order to sell "solutions", especially the "science" based channels. Exercise science is a bit of a joke field and the less said about nutrition science the better. People like Layne Norton talk complete pseudoscience that was debunked decades ago but they can't ever admit to being wrong because they've invested their whole career into meme diets and fads like IIFYM. Alan Aragon is almost as bad. I saw Aragon talking to Shawn Baker the other day conveniently forgetting all the stupid shit he used to say.

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    John Meadows, Chris Bumstead, Noel are the only people worth listening to. I've followed Meadows (Rip) to a T with his arm workouts and they have done so much good. I think sourcing legit info vs hyper over the top "fitness" personalities shows a clear indication of even the types of people you see at the gym. Alot of people are following influencers such as on tiktok and ig who were skinny fats that just learned how to eat like a functional adult, now causing injuries.
    I only listen to people who have experience and don't feel the need to peddle products or titles.

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Scott Herman
    Bahhhbell, haaaahhd

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I only follow (aka: watch dem vids from time to time) Nippard and Thrall.

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only watch old Hodge Twins videos.

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's with the hate for More Plates More Dates in this thread?

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Greg Doucette
    Not natty, don't care
    >Athlean X
    Probably not natty, fake plates, lol
    >Ethier
    Boring, swarthy
    >Israetel
    Not natty, don't care
    >Herman
    can't stand his voice, otherwise solid

  51. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    That sean nalawayjy gay constantly complains about underdosed supplements and sells literal underdosed sugar water for preworkout at 30 usd plus shipping and handling

  52. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish natural hypertrophy actually had someone who knew how to make videos to teach him
    I'm sure that he has many interesting things to say but man I don't want to sit for 40 minutes listening to some rambling with a shitty mic and camera

  53. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I watch Bugez for meme videos and PR's, Alan Thrall for practical advice and BB Medicine or SBS for science based stuff or rehab. Everyone else isnt worth the time

  54. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus fuck just lift the weights you gays.

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