Total Vegan Death

Ever since I've become a carnivore (Only meat, salt, fish, eggs and dairy) at the end of last year, I have converted 5 people from my results.

Calorie-cuckolds, your era is over. Join the meat eaters.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Enjoy your heart attack in 20 years.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Find me one rct that correlates red meat consumption or meat consumption in general to hear disease. That is a myth.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Meant to say “proves a causative relationship between the two.”

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but here's multiple rcts that correlate meat consumption to cancer
        >100 g/d increment of red meat could increase by 11–51% risk of multiple cancer.
        >50 g/d increment of processed meat could increase by 8–72% risk of multiple cancer.
        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0308814621007032

        And here's a systematic review of over a million people that shows that the more saturated fat the more mortality of heart disease and all cause mortality too and meat is rich in saturated fat so it is the cause for it.
        >A significant association between SFA intake and CHD mortality (1.10, 1.01-1.21) was observed.
        >SFA was associated with higher all-cause mortality in NHANES and with CHD mortality in our meta-analysis.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32307197/

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Israeli vs French paradox

          Those long term studies based on "reported findings" are moronic and you know it.

          Yeah lets ask a bunch of americans that eat a lot of fat how much of their fat is saturated and blame it all on saturated fats. So wise.

          Same with meat. The average American gets his meat from McDonalds and eats slop alongside it.

          Find me one rct that correlates red meat consumption or meat consumption in general to hear disease. That is a myth.

          Samegay, but good bait I still took.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          those are no RCTs

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Correct. Because its immoral to kill people.

            the only thing carnivore really has going agasinst it is excess iron, which will cause oxidative stress, but easily avoid by simply not eating red meat/organ meat every day.

            And the fact that it destroys your microbiome which is why many of the popular carnivores started eating fruir

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ?
          You said rcts, the first study is blocked by a paywall and you can’t see the method. The second is based on surveys. Those aren’t rcts and can’t establish causation between the two things in question

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Find me one rct that correlates red meat consumption or meat consumption in general to hear disease.

        >Find me an RCT for a disease that takes decades to develop

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          it doesnt take decades. there are RCTs that have shown mortality effects in a few years

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            it does take decades for the average non obese subject

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Post the rct about meat or red meat specifically causing heart disease

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      incel

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the only thing carnivore really has going agasinst it is excess iron, which will cause oxidative stress, but easily avoid by simply not eating red meat/organ meat every day.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I dont think carnivore is rational at all. Past "carnivore" cultures would have drunk milk and if they had chickens benefited from eggs as well. Why only meat? Most people that benefit from this diet have bad gut flora, but long term carnivore is not logical. Most cow mothers produce enough milk for their calves and a good surplus given good diet, enjoy that surplus or make cheese out of it for winter yknow?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        are eggs, milk and cheese not considered carnivore? they are animal foods

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Oh wow I didn't know that. I thought carnivore didn't consume those products.

          This makes carnivore a perfectly viable diet actually. Good for lean mass and definition. Perfect even, with honey.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        diets aren't really "rational" , so long as what you eat meets dietary sufficiency it doesnt really matter. just like how eating nothing but bull testicles isnt going to appreciably improve your test levels, neither is some plant diet going to make you live to 110 years old.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Post body

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >vegans claim they're feeling so much better and everything is amazing
    >carnivores claim they're feeling so much better and everything is amazing
    all this information flooding in and it's all useless because people are heavily biased in justifying their decision mixed with placebo and potentially other motivation like selling some crap to you.
    all you do is making us sort and dismiss more useless information because in truth you have no idea if this diet is good for you or not.
    you're just noise.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yep, this. And you can't even conduct blind studies on this bullshit, so it's almost impossible to get valid information.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How's that hairline holding up senpai?

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    if you eat too much meat you overdose on iron.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >irrelevant info
      Thanks!

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If you can adhere to keto/carnivore you're basically exposing yourself as fat/sedentary

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why not eat everything? you get more nutrition in that way

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I like animals so much, but they also taste so good... I could maybe be a vegetarian, but not vegan.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >continually keep cows caged and repeatedly forcibly impregnate them, then give them an abortion or slaughter their babies for veal

      >pump them full of drugs to make this process more efficient

      being a vegetarian is more moronic than only eating meat if you're trying to help animals lol

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Great results after a few weeks
    Lmao
    Also there is not a single athlete that doesn’t eat carbs except for those insane ultra marathon gays maybe. Keto is great if you’re a disgusting lardass but for actual performance you need carbs

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Guy at my work just eats a frick ton of meat and bread and dudes a fricking tank despite not working out

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