Touch starvation gains, chronic pain, recovery

Touch starvation kills infants. (infants at orphanages that don't get held literally die, google it)

Touch starvation increases stress response to all stressful event, even will be more stressful for someone touch deprived.

Touch starvation increases pain signaling. Someone receiving electric shock will feel more pain if touch deprived, someone holding strangers hand feels less pain, someone holding a loved ones hand feels even less pain.

Could touch starvation lead to increased pain from exercise?

Could touch starvation lead to "false positives" where people experience pain even if there is nothing wrong? Common with back pain and depression

Could touch starvation make it harder to recover from exercise as exercise is a stressor and they get worse at dealing with stress?

Is touch starvation killing your gains?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >didn't get my minimum 5 hugs a day for the past 10 years

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      its over

      Well, it certainly seems like its been holding back my gains. Or maybe I'm just a genetic disaster

      Can you tell us more? What is your situation like? Why do you think touch deprivation has anything to do with it?

      i hug my mom a lot cuz i live with my parents at the tender age of 27

      Good for you anon. And your mom.

      Lmao just get a dog haha how th frick starvin real just squeeze yourself lol

      Pets actually help.

      Stress=higher test=bigger muscles

      stress->cortisol->lower test

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Can you tell us more? What is your situation like? Why do you think touch deprivation has anything to do with it?
        I posted body in cbt and a guy said I looked average despite being active for like 5 years. In my defense, I have way more body fat than I need, but less muscle than I should have by now, even if covid and doing martial arts sort of screwed my gains for 2 years. If I had had a more robust social life and a strong support system, I'd be doing better by default because lower stress and more people I can rely on. I was blackpillef on this as early as 4th grade when they were talking about social support and being able to exercise agency in your own life.

        I'm too buckbroken at this point to really be assertive, it's asking me to swim when I can barely even crawl. I'll probably make it eventually, but it'll be too late by then, so I won't have really made it, just sort of larping as Chad at that point. My current cope is transcribing my power fantasies into literary work. Cringe, but it helps cope.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Have the circumstances ever changed so that you got experience both having it and not having it?

          Do you feel effects of it like bad sleep, chronic pain, high stress in general and not able to relax or what?

          >I posted body in cbt and a guy said I looked average despite being active for like 5 years.
          "being active for like 5 years" yeah you can be very very active and still be a chubby dyel looking frick. Have you actually lifted and dieted right? Many think they do but don't, me included for many years

          Idk why you mentioning assertiveness and chad stuff here that is not exactly relevant? Stop this chad obsession, you are you. Just be you dude

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Have the circumstances ever changed so that you got experience both having it and not having it?
            This one girl at a job I had hugged me for like 2 seconds and it was ironically extremely painful as I hadn't felt that in so long that when she pulled away it felt like I was a junkie going into withdrawal, like I had something very important ripped away from my arms and I didn't want to let go
            >Do you feel effects of it like bad sleep, chronic pain, high stress in general and not able to relax or what?
            Once you go a super long time without it, your body adjusts and you're fine, but I recognize the abnormality and that if anything it's a disorder.

            I don't know where my body went wrong, I feel like I got 90% of the muscle I have here in my first year and then afterwards it was just floundering around little by little. I got up to benching 70lb dumbbells in that first 1.5 years, and only recently do I think I could do 85s for 3+ reps

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              kek, do you think she noticed?

              I don't think anything is wrong with your body, the gains and the timeframe and i don't think your deprivation is having that much effect on it. Its all about training and dieting and consistency.

              Thanks for taking the time answering.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, but I was definitely too neurotic about everything at that point in life due to constant mogging. She even gave me her number and I fricked it up

                touch starvation leads to mommy, pov, femdom, feet and oral fixation porn.

                This guy gets it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                To bad. But on the good side, if you attracted one chick you know you can attract others. What mogging are you talking about? How did you get constantly mogged?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't want to keep spouting my pitiful existence over and over again, but the guy in the gif was and is me. I'm too inexperienced socially, and the longer its prolonged, the harder and less likely it is I'll be able to catch up and reintegration into society. There's a scene where he's observing a teenager from afar having a bustling social life and loved by everyone and all he does is seethe in the background. That's me.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay. Thank you for sharing this and your time. good luck on your travels.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, it certainly seems like its been holding back my gains. Or maybe I'm just a genetic disaster

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao just get a dog haha how th frick starvin real just squeeze yourself lol

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, if it wasn't for my dog though I would have been "starving" for years at this point since even my mom has died a couple of years ago.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hug my mom a lot cuz i live with my parents at the tender age of 27

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stress=higher test=bigger muscles

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do not watch Dr. K. He has a surface level understanding of inceldom and male loneliness. He's too smart and neurotypical to understand the community he caters to and so he feeds them poor advice.

    watch videos from guys like this and you will understand how to fix yourself. The solution isn't to become a hardcore redpiller but to realize that people are just people.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      what you talking about he is great? He has tons of good insights, perspectives and advice.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Look at the healthygamers subreddit. It's filled with crybabies that hate successful men that treat women and other people the way they're meant to be treated. They act like they can achieve the life they want by being "nice" and thoughtful.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's filled with crybabies that hate successful men that treat women and other people the way they're meant to be treated.
          Kind of like IST? Just because his subreddit is shit don't mean what he says is shit.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >judging anything by the fanbase
          Brainlet

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are there actually people like that from the video? What is wrong with them? They are literally manifestation of satan. I'm glad Europe still has some virtue in them. I know some people do stuff like that here as well, but that bragging from the video just makes me want to puke.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      idk if its really surface understanding or not, but hes giving pretty meme solutions to taboo problems, which usually require taboo solutions i guess. cant blame him tho

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just have to check. Am I weird for not giving a frick about this touch shit?

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    a nurse once had to feel my belly, when her hands reached just above my boxers i had a full body spasm on the table

    >ticklish are we?
    >h-haha y-yeah

    but in reality a woman had never touched me so close to my dick and it was like an subconscious bodily response to stimuli i had never experienced before

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      My MILF redhead with freckles dentist puts her boobs all over your face when you go there
      I need to go back

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Come, Give mommy a hug, it's been a while....

    1 hug a day - that's the minimum
    4 hugs a day - that's the maximum

    > oooOOO my cootie patootie mommy!

    Sorry my daughter there is no power in love
    All the kings horses and all the kings men....

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      goodbye mommy!!

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Raj from bing bang theory telling me to touch people?

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    touch starvation leads to mommy, pov, femdom, feet and oral fixation porn.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bruhhh it watch this shit and even hired a dom to sit on my face. Frick

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just listen to ASMR and cuddle with my Daki
    Hopefully that gets me some basic serotonin

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Broke up with six year relationship in November.

    Saw an old fwb Easter weekend and had absolutely amazing sex several times, but I was surprised by how much I wanted to cuddle and kiss throughout. I didn't realize how touch starved I'd been, after having been on a touch buffet for six years.

    It's much harder to be alone sheet having been with someone. It really is better to have never loved at all

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      *After

      T. Phonegayging at the gym

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do I have a right to complain about touch starvation if I get occasional hugs from my mom?

    Like sure, it's nice and all, but it doesn't compare to being hugged by a girl who isn't a family member

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i haven't been touched in years, and I'm perfectly fine. stop being soft. if you got time to think about shit like this, you're not using time well.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >don't get touched
    >just get touched bro
    Thanks Doc

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    zoomies experienced 2-3 years of ultra isolation
    I'm thinking its over

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      if woman, cute

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