Tourist here, is literally EVERYONE on steroids?

Tourist here, is literally EVERYONE on steroids?
Pretty much every time I’ve ever googled “is x on steroids” it turns out they were or at least people put forward convincing evidence they were.
So what gives? Is it impossible to be buff and lean without steroids? I never knew this.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >I never knew this
    welcome to fitness industry

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes everyone is on roids, buy them while you can, don't do any research into them either, that will just slow you down

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I sense sarcasm

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        more like sarmcasm

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    to be the influencer you need to be special case, especially considering you can do in 1 year what you can do in 4 as natty and less than 1/5 of the hard work. is it that hard to conclude?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/tAU1gaH.jpg

      Tourist here, is literally EVERYONE on steroids?
      Pretty much every time I’ve ever googled “is x on steroids” it turns out they were or at least people put forward convincing evidence they were.
      So what gives? Is it impossible to be buff and lean without steroids? I never knew this.

      It’s still hard work it’s just you recover sooner. Yes OP, and even more shocking you would be surprised to discover just how many people are on gear but still look like shit these days. I’m talking about people at your gym that you wouldn’t never think we’re using gear.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Don’t blame em, fitness is crazy these days

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Is it impossible to be buff and lean without steroids?
        Without steroids, you can either be buff with no less than 10% bodyfat, or you can have 5% bodyfat while losing all your gains to get there. Your FFMI can realistically be between 20 and 25 as a natty, that is something like 6' 200 lbs with 10-15% body fat or maybe add 10 lbs and you can realistically be 12-17% BF. You will still have visible muscle definition from your muscle size. The catch is that you won't have the excessively well-defined look or shredded look of steroid users at 5-8% BF while keeping your size. How defined your muscles look as a natty will depend on how your body stores fat of course. It's not a big problem if you have realistic standards.

        >you would be surprised to discover just how many people are on gear but still look like shit these days
        That's because most of the steroid users in general are lazy. They take them, then because they aren't lucky and don't react the desired way to steroids (at least in whatever doses they're taking). So they never get big because they still need the 5-10 years of proper weight training and they never get it because they follow the advice of the steroid users who got lucky with the doses and blew up while doing improper training. That is they follow memes like "lifting for da pump" and then stopping or they fall for some meme program like starting strength and they didn't role the genetic lottery that let them make gains from taking roids and following those meme programs/strategies.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Sandow was 5'9 on a good day, he only looks impressive on carefully doctored photos. There's a reason there isn't a single picture of him standing next to someone else.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            lanklet cope

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            and yet he probly fricks and you dont

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Sandow was 5'9 on a good day
            That was above average when he was alive.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Sandow was 5'9
            So what? He made the desired gains according to his tastes and started bodybuilding as a sport. His height doesn't matter. BTW calisthenic bros,
            >he only looks impressive on carefully doctored photos
            Sounds like COPE on your part.
            >There's a reason there isn't a single picture of him standing next to someone else.
            Lol. Are you moronic? Here's a picture of him with a taller lifter called Goliath at the time because he was 6'6" tall and alleged 370 lbs (probably had Acromegaly based on his features).

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Steve Reeves was 6ft 1. Further cope

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              i haven't seen it, it might be clickbait, but that autistic brown dude nattylife made a video a week ago saying that all the silver era bodybuilders were using. not saying that you couldn't achieve it naturally with top tier genetics, but i wouldn't be surprised at all if he wasn't natural tbh.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/Ct11Ioe.jpg

            >Is it impossible to be buff and lean without steroids?
            Without steroids, you can either be buff with no less than 10% bodyfat, or you can have 5% bodyfat while losing all your gains to get there. Your FFMI can realistically be between 20 and 25 as a natty, that is something like 6' 200 lbs with 10-15% body fat or maybe add 10 lbs and you can realistically be 12-17% BF. You will still have visible muscle definition from your muscle size. The catch is that you won't have the excessively well-defined look or shredded look of steroid users at 5-8% BF while keeping your size. How defined your muscles look as a natty will depend on how your body stores fat of course. It's not a big problem if you have realistic standards.

            >you would be surprised to discover just how many people are on gear but still look like shit these days
            That's because most of the steroid users in general are lazy. They take them, then because they aren't lucky and don't react the desired way to steroids (at least in whatever doses they're taking). So they never get big because they still need the 5-10 years of proper weight training and they never get it because they follow the advice of the steroid users who got lucky with the doses and blew up while doing improper training. That is they follow memes like "lifting for da pump" and then stopping or they fall for some meme program like starting strength and they didn't role the genetic lottery that let them make gains from taking roids and following those meme programs/strategies.

            sandow was on roids and did cocaine to cut. not joking. roding was rampant in early strongman/bb

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        when I was in highschool a manlet classmate of mine blasted roids and got a dyel body
        he was stupid as frick

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        when I was in highschool a manlet classmate of mine blasted roids and got a dyel body
        he was stupid as frick

        I guarantee you that those guys looked great, you just have much too high standards thanks to the media.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just recover sooner
          you have more energy, drive, appetite, strength and are growing by doing nothing but pin you fricking moron.

          Lol you morons have no idea what you’re talking about your minds would melt like you were looking at an elder scroll if you knew how bad it was.
          I’m not saying simply pinning doesn’t gain muscle but you insecure coping homosexuals are acting like you pin once and wake up looking like prime Arnold as if you could look like any of the pros if you just hopped on gear. You wouldn’t. And neither would the vast majority of people. The only sound argument between you two is that being higher test = more energy, drive, appetite. Even then that’s not making someone gain 40lbs in 3 months by lifting maybe every two weeks while eating like shit. It’s negligible. Like 3lbs if you were to run 500mg and do frickall.
          >nooo I need to believe I could do the same shit if I was on gear too! They’re cheating! They’re cheating me out of… ???? Idk it just isn’t fair okay! It makes me insecure!
          That’s a personal problem morons. Worry about yourself.

          >It’s still hard work

          Meanwhile literal kids on the broest brosplit with shit form and Happy Meals.
          Steroids literally make you explode if gains.
          >b-but most people look like shit on roids!
          They're not pinning enough. Simple as.

          I suppose one could make this argument, but even a dude running half a gram of tren and not lifting or eating right/enough is gonna look like shit. You can find examples of people who did exactly that.
          Most of these zoomers sarms goblins/gear users look like shit. You’re referencing the few who get anywhere and actually apply themself off tiktok, and those ones aren’t eating mcbugers and shit.
          Most people who get on gear don’t even know what they’re doing with their cycles/steroid management OR in the gym. They make shit gains, usually aren’t cut, and wind up fricking themself up in the end anyways.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I guarantee you that those guys looked great

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            They’re still gonna cope and cry and say he’s shredded from the gear and still gained some muscle completely disregarding that they were claiming one “blows up” on steroids easily earlier. That kid would have looked better staying natty and just doing push-ups daily unironically. The most average committed natty looks better than the most average uncommitted steroid user.
            It’s so pointless for most people to even worry about steroids in the first place. The only people who should care are athletes and bodybuilders.

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              this is pure bullshit steroids will do literally all the work

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tell me all about your experience with that phenomenon, natty dyel.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >natty dyel
                NTA but you're a massive fricking homosexual.
                >nooo mega morons are having subpar gains while on gear
                They'd have zero gains as a natty.
                A natural lifter that has made some decent gains and has his shit dialled in halfway will blow the frick up from moderate gear use. There is no comparison, stop downplaying your cheat codes and chemical dependence.
                One day you'll have to come off for one reason or another, and that will be a funny day.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >just recover sooner
        you have more energy, drive, appetite, strength and are growing by doing nothing but pin you fricking moron.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          also age sooner and become hairlet

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >It’s still hard work

        Meanwhile literal kids on the broest brosplit with shit form and Happy Meals.
        Steroids literally make you explode if gains.
        >b-but most people look like shit on roids!
        They're not pinning enough. Simple as.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Meanwhile literal kids on the broest brosplit with shit form and Happy Meals.
          They're eating more and training harder than (you).
          Enjoy getting mogged by broccoli headed 15 year olds.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm fricking up my endocrine system for life and thus I mog you, u mad???

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nta but yes you are clearly mad. You are also dumb to speak so matter of factly (and emotionally) on something you know nothing about. Stay mad. I don’t like it either, these Zoomer homosexuals hopping on gear before they’ve even turned 25. But they’re not obtaining good physiques by hitting curls and bench once every 5 days

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is this how roidtrannies cope?

                >Yes, you have stated good facts but ten again you are clearly mad

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if I say my arguments were facts that helps me deluxe myself into believing I won le epic IST argument
                Local you posted was emotional nonsense to insinuate you’re somehow losing something because some morons choose to hop on gear. Get real loser. Cry harder that really seems to be helping you cope.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you're losing your chance to go bald and get a limp dick, get real you loser

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                They're idiots for jumping on PEDs that young but they are obviously eating well and training hard. Brosplits aren't inherently bad if they strike the right balance between intensity, volume and frequency.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                The fact I already accounted for and mentioned that it’s a stupid idea due to those problems, and it’s still your only argument. Literally just
                >DUDE NO YOURE WRONG YOU PIN ONCE AND WAKE UP LOOKING LIKE THE ROCK YOU BLOWUP WITHOUT LIFTING
                >NO BUT MUH SIDE EFFECTS
                You’re missing my point entirely and this lack of comprehension is likely what got you into this point that you’re so insecure. Face reality, you don’t actually care about people on gear you’re mad at yourself. Furthermore, all you’ve done is show how little you know. Next you’re going to tell me you could hold world records in powerlifting if you hopped on.

                T. Natty, since you seem not to understand anything I’m saying at all

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            They would have no muscle mass to speak of if they did not pin.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        You literally gain more muscle roiding and sitting on your ass than you do natty lifting

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          false. You are not only wrong but literally a moronic gaywad

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      The fitness space is very niche and small imo. You need whatever you can to get a leg up on ppl. especially if you no real personality to carry your ass.

      There are always more entertaining, funnier, more educated people then yourself. can you tick all the boxes that others haven't done already.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone that looks better than me is a roids, obviously. There's no way anyone could work harder than me and get results because of it. They're all cheating

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Roids are super scawy. Not even once. Just say no.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Post body

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If you go down the rabbit hole you will find that not only is it impossible to be lean and muscular without steroids, but that this is a direct result of constant exposure to micro plastics, petrochemicals and other endocrine disrupters. There is plastic in our blood and pesticide in all the food you have ever consumed. Being “natural” no longer exists.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Don't listen to this person—it's totally possible. All people on steroids look disgusting anyway, so not like steroids are a better of two evils. But they are right in the second bit—we are all poisoned. You can eliminate a significant amount of future microplastic exposure if you care enough though.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >all people on steroids look disgusting
        oh anon…lots of guys on test look like they’ve lifted for a year. go to steroid/bodybuilder forums and look at the progress pics. its very depressing

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I know what you're saying (and maybe I am a little crazy to think this), but I think no matter what, steroids can't compete with the careful harmony of what our bodies construct naturally. When you upset the balance with steroids, you win in muscle and lose somewhere else. I feel like everyone who takes steroids looks a little fricked, whether it be their face, their skin, or even their general proportions. There will never be a magic shortcut.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I feel like you're a coping twink. Prove me wrong.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I won't lie, if I post body you will probably say I'm not big enough. But I think your perception of "muscular" has been warped by general media insisting that all these men on steroids are the "muscular" men. Or even just the encouraging across all mediums of this bulking bullshit, which is really just an excuse to continue status quo gluttony under the guise of muh bodybuilding. Yes, bulking and steroids will let you lift bigger numbers and be stronger. But that's not the same as being healthy and attractive. I assume many will shit on me, but I encourage you to wake up and realize that given the extreme and constantly rising rates of obesity and overweightness in the world, you ought to be wary of any advice to GET BIGGER and WEIGH MORE. Everyone would do well to be smaller, thinner, leaner.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You realize many people will do a cycle just want to maintain muscle while quickly cutting weight, right? You seem to have this impression everyone that does steroids is doing so to look like Coleman. I agree with most of what you're saying, but at the end of the day if people choose to take PEDs, go for it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, but I think the reality is that the admittedly slower and more difficult process of cutting at a slow enough rate so as not to atrophy while maintaining a consistent, high-volume workout (with all the good stuff like progressive overload, compound movements, etc.) would end up with better results than such a cycle. And none of the risks to the heart and other shit, which is perhaps the worst part of the steroids tradeoff.

                My philosophy is basically this: think of all the random high school and college athletes of the world. Not the famous ones, and not even the particularly talented ones. Just random chads and chadettes. The majority of this group are not taking steroids. And they are muscular, big, and look great. This is all you need to be happy, healthy, and top-tier attractive. You can further gain skill, increase strength, optimize hypertrophy, etc. if you want. But just achieving this "basic" level of all-around fitness puts you into the 0.1%. This is both a whitepill and a blackpill.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody cares about being healthy and attractive though, only about internet fame.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Everyone you think looks good is on roids.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Paranoia mixed with cope. Frick off and stop encouraging young men to take more drugs than are already shoved down their throat.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No one's encouraging anything. We are just asking zoomers to have realistic expectations. If you want to be lean, you are going to be no bigger than Brad Pitt from Fight Club as a natural with average genes who doesn't spend his entire waking life on gym and micromanaging his diet; that's just the truth. And while you are going to look good under a shirt, you aren't going to look big by any means. The point is, you cannot look "big, strong and buff" without steroids or at least making natty bodybuilding your entire career.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Once you get in a habit of shopping and cooking efficiently, you don't need to micromanage a good diet (unless you are wasting your time counting calories/macros and prepping shit like chicken breast, broccoli, and rice). And you don't need to be in the gym all day either, or have a personal trainer. You could do an hour long full-body workout three days a week and 30min of cardio on three of the recovery days, paired with some prehab/rehab exercises and stretches after. Doesn't even need to be autistically optimized to work. Given this, your doom and gloom of maintaining a nice natural body seems like a misguided exaggeration. I will agree with you on the rest of your post though. My claim is that that people are chasing artifice when they want significantly bigger than that Brad Pitt, or to look like a beast even with clothes on. What is most attractive, what is most healthy, and what our body wants and is designed for, is to be the lean, mean fighting machine. I think there is natural genetic variation, and even some hard manual labor circumstances that will naturally push people surprisingly bigger, but for the most part something is wrong when we begin to look like an ape.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous
            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah go tell that to Chris bumstead, Frank Zane, Steve Reeves...

              Yep, all look fricked to me. I hope you will someday clear the fog of conditioning in your brain and restore the intuition that is your birthright of being able to recognize at an extremely detailed level a healthy body in yourself and others.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah go tell that to Chris bumstead, Frank Zane, Steve Reeves...

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        is there any actual proof of plastic inside us or is it baseless fearmongering by "the science"

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It was somewhat receently shown that microplastics cross the blood/brain barrier. There's no argument about it being in us, but there's no consensus on the effects. We're gonna have to wait a whole generation for the long term studies to come out before anyone even tries to legislate (if necessary). I don't know why anyone would think it's a good think to have plastic accumulate in your brain tho.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            what would microplastics be in for us to get them?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Not him but any food you heat up in a plastic container, the water we drink, etc etc, you eat about a credit cards worth of plastic or more every year through microplastics. It's a serious issue, you know how the Victorians ignored things like mercury in medicines? We have our own versions of that.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Pretty much all our food and water comes into contact with plastic which leaches out. It's the same concept as lead pipes used for plumbing in ancient Rome (or Flint MI). At least it's understandable that the romans gave lead the benefit of the doubt since it's the most stable element in the universe and even still it made people moronic.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Eventually the lead was coated in calcium from the water and prevented the lead from leaching off into the water.

                Source- I think I read that somewhere

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          If you believe scientific papers (and I don't blame you if you don't), you can look up a recent famous one from 2022 confirming exactly this.

          Or, just look closely at any polyester in your house and rub it a bit. Look at the fibers coming off. Look at the cuts in a plastic cutting board. Break a bit of foam and see the little shit that falls out. Do you think this all just disappears? You inhale some of it, you eat some of it, some sticks to your skin, and you can bet plenty of it has infiltrated your water supply, the water circulating in the environment around you as rain, runoff, etc., into the food chain and in the bodies of the animals you eat, and so on.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412022001258
          >plastic in human blood
          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412020322297
          >plastic in human uterus
          https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.8b05592
          >bonus round: estrogen in the ground water
          Get on test asap bros

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't listen to this person—it's totally possible.
        t. started lifting 6 months ago, bench pr 70lbs

        You'll learn the hard way, just like we all did.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I don't lift, at least in the traditional way. I don't use barbells or machines. I've done calisthenics on and off for 8 years, I've been bouldering for 3 years, and recently I use some dumbbells and kettlebells.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't lift
            Welcome to fit/

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah these guys think they will have chad physique in 6-8 months of going to the gym and eating right. The fitness industry has given us all body dysmorphia and unrealistic expectations.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Who tf lifts 6 months and has 70lbs? I went from 135 once to 215 in 7 months

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >le endocrine disruptors
      These do have an effect don't get me wrong, but bad diet/sleep/stress/activity levels is far worse. In fact if you manage to fix all of those your body is actually able to deal with and eliminate estrogenic endocrine disruptors much more easily. Fix those and you'll have zero problems, no need for fricking memeshit roids and TRT

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      holy fricking dyel cope
      Its not plastic's fault you're a b***h

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If they're making money of their fitness social media or have some other career that depends on the look of their physique, the answer is yes.
    At your local gym? Maybe like 1 or 2 people, and you'll know em.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >At your local gym? Maybe like 1 or 2 people, and you'll know em.
      lol no way, i know dozens that pin at my gym, ranging from scrawny people to big bodybuilders to fat powerlifters, different dosages, differetent compounds and different genetics give you varied results

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      something like 25% of dudes in commercial gyms are on roids
      most of them look like shit too lol

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The tl;dr is steroids allow you to cheat but if you stop taking them you lose most of your gains, you can retain some if you do PCT appropiately but the short answer is unless you're wealthy, have a personal doctor/trainer and are taking quality gear (even then) you're risking organ damage, fricking up your hormones, even developing serious cancers. Basically, don't do it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm trans btw

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Kept almost all my gains after doing a roid cycle, still have them and have not lifted for two years

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, there's residual benefits for the rest of your life.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      taking testosterone wont give you cancer moron

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Go to a gym and behold the level of muscles. The dudes that are jacked are either juicing or using sarms. Zoomerhomosexuals use sarms and the tree truck 40+ers are needling it up. I am a ottermode trainer and when I see a Man with stretchmarks on his rear delts...that's not natural.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >So what gives?
    Content creators need to max out their size and/or maintain their size with little effort so they can get more sponsors and sell shit to consumers.

    If they can't do that, they'll still be gay for pay and do nasty shit in Dubai to keep funding their roids until they "make it".

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's over

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Tourist here, is literally EVERYONE on steroids?
    Not literally ofc but pretty much. We've been over this before, too.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Many many celebrities and fitness people are on juice. Even dumbass ticktock/instagram/twitter zoomers are munching on SARMs.

    That being said, a lot is angle/light frauding with pumps and even some photoshop too

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    roids are everywhere now. Everyone is on them. There was this zoomer lanklet at my gym who barely works out and looks like a ripped wendigo because he roids and doesnt work out at all.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Tourist here, is literally EVERYONE on steroids?
    Yes. All pros, everyone who makes a living with thwir body/looks (eg. actors) and the majority of amateurs is juicing.
    There is no way to reach the modern beauty ideal naturally. Everyone you think looks good is on PEDs.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it impossible to be buff and lean without steroids?
    Yes, and that means huge amounts of steroids. If you look at Golden Age bodybuilders (Arnold's era) they weren't exactly huge and cut to shreds by modern standards, and they were already full of juice.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone on the front page SEO shit you're looking at is on steroids. Yes even the dorks like Jeff Nippard. Then if you dig deeper it's more fake natties like AlphaDestiny or natural hypertrophy.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Roids aren't that expensive or damaging to long term health anyways.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Roidtroony thread

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ^twink

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hour and half long video by some Euromutt dyel sitting on his toilet ranting about roiders

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >DYEL
        he has 17 inch arms while shredded. he's close to the natty limit, pic related.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >17" arms
          doesnt count for stubby little manlet arms

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            6 feet

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why do you know the height, weight, arm size etc of some youtube nobody?
              Seriously what the frick is wrong with you?
              I dont even know who this homosexual is and you're here white knighting for him and telling us every intimate detail about his body.
              Do you have any idea what a weird homosexual you are?

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know exactly those two stats about him because they're the kind of stats I pay attention to. I've watched a couple of his videos before. weird.
                meanwhile
                >this near natty limit body is DYEL
                (body dysmorphia)
                >he's a manlet
                (bad at estimating height, yet convinced you're good at it)
                cool and normal.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >pays attention to other men's height and arm size
                >even gets good at estimating other men's height from watching them on youtube
                >totally not a homosexual homosexual queer

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>pays attention to other men's height and arm size
                DYEL?

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Most influencers are on steroids because they are competing for attention. The issue here is that you think looking good is being jacked. You can look good as a natty without looking like a roidtroony.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    greek statue look is peak natural. Anyone who looks like thor, liverking, mr olympia, etc are roiding.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's very hard to have an impressive physique without roids.
    It's much easier to have one with roids.
    So statistically, they probably are.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Almost no one is on steroids.
    But the 0.1% on the top of the fitness industry that everyone sees and knows? Yeah they are.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Steroids are the second most popular drug in America right after weed and before heroin. Even more popular than heroin.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >before heroin. Even more popular than heroin.
        Fentanyl has largely replaced heroin.
        You can walk through certain parts of major cities and see tons of people strung out on fentanyl.
        You can't walk through many areas and see a bunch of juicebros, except muscle beach.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because 99% of people who juice are just regular people with regular lives and dont need to live on the street with other juicers? What a fricking stupid comparison, lmao

      • 1 year ago
        blastbro

        >Steroids are the second most popular drug in America
        Lol
        Lmao even
        Steroids are and will always be niche so long as you need to pin because people fricking HATE needles
        (just look at the COVID vax to see how many pussies hate a baby shot in their arm)

        Most people are just not going to be injecting 1+cc of something with a relatively big-ass needle on a weekly (or more) basis

        All that said that's why SARMs (and turkesterone fricking lol) are so popular especially among zoomies who despite effort and a hint of pain

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Steroids are and will always be niche so long as you need to pin because people fricking HATE needles
          >(just look at the COVID vax to see how many pussies hate a baby shot in their arm)
          People didn't take the experimental drug because it was a generally untested and now proven a fairly ineffective drug. Meanwhile many of the same people didn't have a problem going to the lab to get blood drawn with a needle as part of their regular bloodwork and likely even got the flu shot every year.

          In US High Schools, it is estimated that as much as 5% of males have used anabolic steroids at least once. For the worldwide population, it's 3.3% for regular use. Of course in the studies which these numbers are used, many may be lying so we can take these numbers as a minimum. If we extract population that are likely too impoverished to afford steroids like the majority of the African population and focus only on more developed countries, the rate is probably at least 5% in the general population. If you restrict to regular gymgoers and ignore the few old men who take it to help with test loss, the fatasses who are 30+% of the population in most affluent countries, the trannies, and the skinnyfats who never touched a weight in their life, the rates is much higher.

          >will always be niche
          Every single hobby regularly practiced including bodybuilding is a niche. Everything that requires some form of specialization in its practice is "niche." You are using the word niche incorrectly and as nothing more than a buzzphrase. At best you only uttered a tautology without even realizing it. At worst you're just a moron using "niche" as a buzzword.

          • 12 months ago
            blastbro

            >Meanwhile many of the same people didn't have a problem going to the lab to get blood drawn with a needle as part of their regular bloodwork and likely even got the flu shot every year
            https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/hc-sc/images/services/publications/vaccins-immunisation/seasonal-flu-vaccination-coverage-en.jpg
            Less than 50% of adults want to get just one ONE shot in their arm each year
            And I'm guessing way wayyy less even get bloodwork each year

            Also remember how the COVID vax stats fricking dropped off a cliff once people were required 3+ shots
            Yeahhhh this just supports what I'm saying that the genpop fricking hates needles
            And honestly that shouldn't surprise everyone
            >you don't like stabbing yourself multiple times a week!?
            Should be common sense

            >In US High Schools, it is estimated that as much as 5% of males have used anabolic steroids at least once. For the worldwide population, it's 3.3%
            This includes oral-only cycles
            I'm positive if you filtered by injecting testosterone it would be way wayyy less

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If we extract population that are likely too impoverished to afford steroids like the majority of the African population
            thinks Black folk dont steal money to buy drugs kek

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >(just look at the COVID vax to see how many pussies hate a baby shot in their arm)
          yeah buddy I'm sure that's why people didn't want to modify their genome to produce chronic inflammation

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How would one go to acquire these “steroids”? (Hypothetically speaking)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's up to you to figure out. It's a ritual we all go through.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If you search for talk about steroid sources, you should be able to figure it out

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      look up sources on eroids dot com

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Can confirm
    >t currently using steroids

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I’m relatively “buff” and I don’t use anything. Just good lighting and a pump.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      how many years lifting?

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    don’t give a shit about influencertrannies, but if I ever meet a local roidtroony whose on gear while pretending he isn’t in every thread he’s in, I’m gonna cave his tiny genetic mistake head in

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      you wont do shit, squirt

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If you see anyone bigger than pic related then you can safely assume they're roiding.

  29. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alot of /cbt/ probably but most of this board looks like shit and doesn't roid. You obviously are a tourist. Now go away we're full

  30. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can get movie level buff if you're natty with good genetics. But of course there's no way to look like Arnie as a natty. And also just because a physique is achievable natty, doesn't make it easy or practical. Sterons make everything easier, at the expense of your health.

    It comes down to this: if you just want to look good in the mirror, stay natty. But if you're a top athlete or performer that makes a living through their body, yeah you might have to take that risk.

  31. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most people who make money by being fit is using PEDs. Athletes are the only exception because they actually get tested, but there is still a HUGE doping industry for athletes who want to cheat the tests. When the Lance Armstrong scandal blew up we found out that pretty much everyone in cycling is doping. It's just that some of them get sloppy or unlucky and get caught.

    If you stand to make millions and millions of dollars from having a nice body and nobody is testing you, then why the frick wouldn't you cheat to make things easier?

  32. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let's look at that muh hard work argument. Even if we compare two natties, one with average muscle building genetics and one on the upper end (still normal for natties) of the spectrum, the one with superior genetics can gain twice the amount of muscle in the same time, with the same effort. Now imagine the one with the great genetics hops on gear.

  33. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Natty body building is the biggest meme. Guys looking strong and lean like 4 weeks out. By the time they get on stage they have lost half their size to get lean enough.

  34. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    im not on roid 🙂

  35. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it impossible to be buff and lean without steroids?
    no, if you train your entire life with utter vigilance you could reach a "roid" level by 25-30 years old

  36. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    pretty much all fitness influencers are roiding but its actually very uncommon among regular gym goers

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      disagree
      i see too many zoomers clearly on roids/sarms because they've made the same progress as me but it took me 10 years and they're only like 20 so they've realistically only been lifting for 3-4 years

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        20 years have higher testosterone levels so gains are much faster.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          bullshit. the peak is only a few percent higher and then you stay level for the rest of your life. stop repeating men's "health" clinic marketing.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        3-4 years are enough to reach very, very close to genetic potential given you do everything right. of course nobody does everything right so it's a theoretical figure. also I agree that tons of zoomers are in fact on roids. just saying you can only reasonably suspect them, not say with certainty that they're on gear for having a physique that IS achievable naturally (according to your own assessment, that they are the same as you, not significantly bigger).

  37. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. I'm on estrogen. I inject 3 mL subQ every 5 days. It's like reverse Testosterone, I do it to make the gym harder because it's not enough of a challenge for me. The ultimate hardmode challenge.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Estrogen is a steroid you fricking moron

  38. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone that looks good is on steroids pretty much. Even a lot of people that look dyel are also on steroids. Do you think it's just a coincidence that no-one liked remotely muscular and lean by modern standards until the 1950's when steroids became widely available.

  39. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I see the gym instructors speaking in the locker room in my poor gym, they can't afford all the premium stuff like HGH, because you need those to look good,

    Those people make do with some spray-tan and chinese shit, they have a noticeable gout after not even 5 years on that shit.

    They spoke in front of me, to see if I would be interested to buy some, this is how they do it. I'll tell you how it went if you are interested

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes please tell us more of your made bullshit larp

  40. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    /thread

  41. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    buying steroids in 2023 is literally easier and safer than buying stuff from amazon. I guarantee at LEAST 25% of your gym (unless you go to planet fitness/YMCA) is on some level of gear or TRT. Any guy older than 40 is more likely than not on test. Anybody who is lean is most likely on, unless they're DYEL. I've been to countless gyms with over a decade of experience, and i've met a shit ton of people. About half the guys I ever talked to ended up admitting to being on gear or some type of "TRT"

    Wanna know who the real naturals are? They are skinnyfat/fat, stick to the compound lifts, are wholly unimpressive (never wear stringers or tank tops) and look like regular untrained people

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They are skinnyfat/fat, stick to the compound lifts
      don't expect to stop being skinnyfat if all you do is compound lifts. compound lifts, of obvious reasons, won't get you big arms.

  42. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the USA it's extremely common, it's more rare in Middle Europe, most of the people here get their gear from Eastern Europe.

    You can look very good without steroids, you just have to be way more strict with your diet and workout. It's like in FPS games, you can be a very good CS:GO player with knowledge and well-trained AIM but a guy with a good AIM bot can play as good as you without investing the time needed for that.

  43. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    every time somebody is paid to be shirtless in front of a camera, and it is not for comedic effect: this person is on steroids

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