Training for the pump = Waste of time

High rep training doesn't actually build permanent muscles. When you stop training all that inflammation goes away.

All that "science" based training is a pile of roidgay nonsense. Get stronger if you want to be really bigger.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

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      This pajeet pretty much made an entire video with studies shitting on "LE PUMP" training and people didn't even take it seriously. I have no faith in humans, what a fricking dumb cattle. No wonder so many "people" took the vaxx.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Vaccines living rent free in your head

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        fair enaugh. but whats wrong with vaccines in first place? covid one yeah it was rushed as shit kek

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          COVIDS not even a vaccine. It's called that so you'll take it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No need for them, every thing science claims to have fixed was 99% the improvements to sanitation and food availability

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            bro im not dying from tetanus lmfao. covid vaccine was def bs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I just love you you subhumans are literally always the caricature of the most moronic low iq trash that ALWAYS contradicts yourself.
        In your 50 iq mind, you'd rather believe some rando on youtube than the entire scientific community.
        Why? Because you only identify with other low iq morons that think they "discovered" what "they" are "hiding" from you.
        From the bottom of my heart I hope you have a nice day.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >scientific community thought sun revolves around earth
          >scientific community roundly rejected continental drift theory
          >scientific community thought Newtonian physics were the end all be all of physics
          Scientific community is regularly wrong about things.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It’s more important to believe the right people when they’re wrong than to believe the wrong people when they are right. Modern science in a nutshell.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              And now you have to consider the fact that science as an institution is wholly corrupted by special interests and politics. Blindly trusting “science” makes you a moron; science is not a faith based institution.

              Scientific community said that Covid is Black Plague 2.0, said Vaxx is safe and needed, says that men in a dress are women, that you should eat snoy and bugs, that meat is bad for you. And so on.

              This is your scientific community.
              >Y-YEAH SCIENCE b***h
              dumb millenial

              I’m agreeing with you, you dumb frick. Stop making me look bad.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Scientific community said that Covid is Black Plague 2.0, said Vaxx is safe and needed, says that men in a dress are women, that you should eat snoy and bugs, that meat is bad for you. And so on.

            This is your scientific community.
            >Y-YEAH SCIENCE b***h
            dumb millenial

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >These two forms of adaptations rarely occur completely independently of one another; one can experience a large increase in fluid with a slight increase in proteins, a large increase in proteins with a small increase in fluid, or a relatively balanced combination of the two.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >blocks your path
    what do, sci lifter?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >High rep training
    Stop right there. Sarcoplasmic gains come from frequency. Myofibrilar gains come from maximum tension which can be done at all rep ranges.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >this fricking meme again
    There is no such thing as "myofib" muscle and "sarcoplasmic" muscle. If you train like a powershitter you might be at 51% myofib 49% sarco while a pumpbro might be at 51% sarco and 49% myofib, but that difference is unnoticeable and makes no difference in the long run. Specificity is the reason why those with smaller muscles may appear stronger, they've practiced the movement over and over again and have become extremely efficient at it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm inclined to think this is the truth. Although I'm slightly worried that the actual distinction will be something like 60/40 which isn't enough to justify devoting more than a small amount of thought into it, but will be enough for lots of people to waste lots of their time thinking it's bigger than it is

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nuh uh i read a manga where a martial artists talks about converting ALL his muscles into twitch fiber muscles. it's totally cool and doable!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      not saying i believe in it but i was actually taught fast/slow twitch muscle fibers in biology in school, how do you explain powerlifters being smaller yet stronger than bodybuilders? or athletes and for example sprinters becoming faster despite making the same movement? what does "efficient" mean in your case?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        firstly, this is not a discussion about fast twitch and slow twitch fibers. Secondly, strength only matters when weight is a concern, so think about Oly lifting or MMA.

        Thirdly, powerlifters are not stronger than bodybuilders, the person with more mass is always stronger than the person with less mass. Powerlifters are stronger relative to their size, but bodybuilders are the strongest.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >firstly, this is not a discussion about fast twitch and slow twitch fibers.
          whatever you want to call it.

          >powerlifters are not stronger than bodybuilders, the person with more mass is always stronger than the person with less mass. Powerlifters are stronger relative to their size, but bodybuilders are the strongest.
          but observably people who solely powerlift are often stronger than bigger people who solely do bodybuilding, there are so many dyels who pull way more weight in deadlifts than guys on brosplits with better legs, why would you deny this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >there is no s-such thing
      >b-but if there was which it totes isn't then it would be like slightly more percentage vs slightly less percentage

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    based on the shit science that has been presented, pump training will actually lead to more permanent muscles since pump training overloads the myonuclei, forcing the body to make more

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >When you stop training
    Not my problem then.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think high rep training is a waste of time for a different set of reasons but I'm not about to believe some literallywho from a comments section anywhere.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I think high rep training is a waste of time for a different set of reasons
      Tell us?

      I think high rep training works just like low rep training works. As long as you are still adding reps and then eventually weight it don' matter if you are doing 10 or 20 reps, or even 30. I have trained with that high reps my self and it did work.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        As a waste of literal time. Not as in your efforts are squandered or elicit no response. The physical mechanisms that turn on the chemicals that allow for hypertrophy as we know it only activate after type ii fibers have been fatigued sufficiently. With lighter loads you have have fatigue type i fibers first then type ii come in to pick up the slack for failing fibers and are eventually fatigued themselves. Where as when you're using a heavier load you're getting type ii recruitment right out the gate and to the last rep. Which means your proximity to true mechanical failure is closer and more likely to get that hypertrophic training response. You can make lower rep training work by cutting heavily into rest times where you're only recovering enough between sets to get 8 or less reps and effectively get the same response but in the absence of as much mechanical tension it might to be as good but it won't be worse than if you did all the full sets and full rest and burned time doing all those extra unproductive reps.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You can make higher rep training work*

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >get stronger if you want to get bigger

    it's the other way around, get bigger to get stronger. Strength training is not a good proxy for strength, growth training is.

    You will not always gain strength trying to strength train, you will always gain strength if you build more muscle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      isn't an R2 of under 0.9 bad?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        R^2>0.5 is quite good since the data set is fairly close to being linear so the linear equation is a decent model. There are just some other factors part of it that lead to some individual variation. With a larger dataset, it may have yielded a larger R^2.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It depends on the nature of the data set. It would be very bad for hard physics, but very good for say sociology. Strength studies are technically biomedical and probably somewhere in between.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They did not teach me whatever this is in school.

      R^2>0.5 is quite good since the data set is fairly close to being linear so the linear equation is a decent model. There are just some other factors part of it that lead to some individual variation. With a larger dataset, it may have yielded a larger R^2.

      It depends on the nature of the data set. It would be very bad for hard physics, but very good for say sociology. Strength studies are technically biomedical and probably somewhere in between.

      It sounds like you're making shit up for the lols.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Past generations just did manual labor all day until they were fatigued and they looked decently fit. Cyclists never touch a barbell but get massive legs.
    Now who is in the wrong here, reality or OP and his 65 IQ brain.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Past generations just did manual labor all day until they were fatigued and they looked decently fit.
      Based on pictures you've seen which were posed for by athletes who use lifting as part of their training.
      >Cyclists never touch a barbell but get massive legs
      Road cyclists are small. Track cyclists have massive legs and they do squats to train for it.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares. Just lift.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's just genetics. You can train high reps and get strong and smallish and another can train low reps and get big without much strength.
    Muscle composition is genetics based that's why there are a lot of black bodybuilders champs and very little black strongman or powerlifters champs.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well I trained for strength for 10 years and I never looked good

    Now that I train on a brosplit and just spam random exercises for a pump I actually have started to look like I lift

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pump feel good

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have never had a visible pump in my life. But I'm not looking for it, and I don't really get the point of temporarily looking bigger in the first place. How long does a pump even last for, 10 minutes? An hour?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is scientific evidence that even just the pump itself is one pathway for hypertrophy, so yes, it does work - but typically it's better to address all available pathways rather than just focus on one.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Training for the pump = Waste of time
    But pumping as training is not waste of time.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Get stronger if you want to be really bigger.
    LOOK GUYS I HAVE A STEALTH BUILD! WDYM I LOOK LIKE A DYEL MY ARMS LOOK REALLY GOOD IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR POSE 🙂
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  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >train till failure
    >grow

    thats simple Black person stop crying

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Agreed. Bottom line there’s nobody with a big chest and arms who can’t bench 2 plates.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    High rep training does build permanent muscles if you train to failure as long as you're training with a high enough percentage of your 1RM.

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