TRT

Literally what is stopping me or anyone from just ordering testosterone rn. More muscles, more energy, less depression, better sex.
Explain how there's so little talk on IST about it, why does it seem like not even half of all low test betas seem to get on it and instead bitch and complain online, spend time and money on supplements, ball-tanning, nofap, avoiding plastic and all that bullshit that's impossible to do if you're really depressed in the first place, why?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its the fraud general tard

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not that simple. It shuts down your balls completely.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So what? Are you going to make babies right now? Just use hCG when the time has come.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've been using hcg since day 1 of trt. I wouldn't take test without it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You could take HCG as part of a PCT. Lots of options tbh. If you're on a test cycle consider Proviron as an oral.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not permanently, they come back and it's only a slight size reduction.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong
        Even one steroid injection permanently castrates you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you take HRG or whatever it's called you maintain function & fertility but better apparently. My buddy hopped on trt 200 whatever and hcg, he says he feels like Kratos fucking these hoes. He's a bouncer at a club, got his shit from a online clinic because doctors won't do shit unless you have legit no test lmao

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i wouldnt oppose it but once you take the trt road you will have take it for life
    not so hard if you are like 50 but if you are twenty why already jump on juice when you are already full with test hopefully

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You really don't.
      You will.
      But you don't have to.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Test and testicle function fully recover in like 99% of men whether doing TRT or frauding hard. You can stay on it for 10 years, quit, and your balls will be back to normal in a couple months even without PCT. Only exception is using tren or another 19 nor can make it take a bit longer.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        literally untrue lol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          but its true, ask even pete rubbish

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >nattycuck has to make up shit to cope
          sad

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4854084/
          Data from the male contraception literature indicate a reasonable probability of recovery in 67%, 90%, 96%, and 100% of men at 6, 12, 16, and 24 months

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I'll just permanently fuck my body up with hormones. That'll cure my body dysmorphia and people will finally love me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      shit, wrong image

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        apex legends is just as gay

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It was what everyone else at work was playing at the time. Just don't play the gay characters

          On second thought it's been a year or so. They might all be gay now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You save pictures of cartoon cats with rainbow backgrounds. That's all anyone needs to know about your opinion

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      can you blame flawed creatures for just wanting to be beautiful and loved

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the modern world already permanently fucked up your hormones lol
      dont look up how test levels changed in the last 100 years
      also dont look up how fertility rates changed in the last 100 years
      and especially DONT compare pictures of average males today with pictures of average males from a 100 years ago

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >muh average test
        >muh average fertility
        >muh average
        >average

        The average person is obese and lives an unhealthy lifestyle. What did people do 100 years ago? Work the fields and walk everywhere. Walk more, bike as a commute, lead an active lifestyle and your test levels will be fine.

        My wife and I conceived out child first shot. And he's born and healthy as a horse.

        >muh horse levels 100 years ago

        I'm 26 and my body is normal. Eat well and lift and run and don't be a turbofat powershitter and you'll be fine. Leave the copium at home.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the only one full of copium here is you lol
          believe whatever you want and helps you sleep at night, i dont give a shit, im still going to fix whatever I can this modern civilization ruined and corrupted, even with its tools if I have to

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You fool. I can't stop you, so go nuts. But always be weary when someone has a solution to a problem they just presented you with.

            >3/5 men go bald withing their lifetimes, thankfully we have our brand new product XYZ!
            >Test levels have been dropping in the last century, thank God I am here to sell you XYZ!
            >Joint pain, dick don't work, shoulders are sore? Do do not fret, we are here to sell you XYZ!

            Somebody is always trying to sell you a bullshit product you most probably could have done without. If someone is telling you about a problem, if the NEXT thing out of their mouth is a product, that's not your buddy being helpful. That's a sale's pitch.

            I can't stop you from taking stacks bro, but my advice is make sure you exhausted all other causes. But that's if you're not lying and just want to undo damage that was beyond your consent. If you just want to short-cut and claim it's because an injustice was done to you, that's you.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This is so true. Except I'm all for the use of hormones prescribed from a doctor. Especially if you have joint issues they can give you a safeish dose of deca which allows you to continue working say a more laborious job without your joints feeling like they are going to explode through your asshole. I am however completely against these retards especially these fucking retards in fraud or general steroid forums that inject shit from China or these fucking UGLs that claim to be clean. I challenge anyone who sources their shit from there to stick a neodymium magnet in their oil, spin it for awhile and see how many fucking metal shards and dust stick to the fucking thing. That's what most of these fags are putting into their butt unknowingly. Anyway if you're gonna be a retarded gay and take the magic oil use the money pay for pharma shit from a doc they'll let you take 700mg of shit a week under observation so you don't end up like bostin llyod.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Absolutely based
          >NOOOOO ITS SOCIETIES FAULT MY TEST IS LOW IT CANT BE MY SHITTY HEALTH CHOICES AND DYEL PHYSIQUE

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Hello, cope department?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Techno kitty

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >That'll cure my body dysmorphia and people will finally love me
      not my fault bitches don't like skinny gays

      >hurr da best body is the one ur in :*~~
      Die

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I tried trt. It wasn't a natural feeling. A lot of feelings you think come from the lack of test are not from the lack of test. And having high test doesn't grant you a good feeling automatically. And I don't want to be a slave to the needle perpetually.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Op here. Best oral only cycle?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Best oral only cycle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >oral only cycle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      10-15mg dbol a day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Needles?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    enjoy your /hair loss general/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fin
      cant wait for your next "enjoy your x" reply, I already have the answer for it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i'm all for fin, but significantly increasing test while being on fin means you'll have significantly higher estrogen because test won't get converted to dht. enjoy your /gyno general/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >higher estrogen
          easy to control with AIs

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >take 1 drug
            >need to take 6 other drugs to counteract the effects of the 1st drug
            >need to take 18 other drugs to counteract the side effects of the other 6 drugs
            >need to take 72 other drugs to counteract the side effects of the other 18 drugs
            >1 doesnt work

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              dont have a "nice X gay" anymore?
              you basically admitted you are wrong and cant make an argument so you make up a random strawman-hyperbole to pretend you have a point
              its like 3 substances, and they work perfectly together with practically no sides and all the benefits, and you got btfo lol
              nattycucks, when will you learn

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that wasn't me, but i'll go ahead and say enjoy your /18 drugs general/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I am 21 and already blading lmao, I've already decided I'm going to hop on trt when I'm at the point of no return with my hair.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Been blasting for a year straight and still have Norwood 1 hair.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what is stopping me
    Your fear of the law, aka your low test levels

    It's called the beta trap and it reserves gains for high T alphas

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >HURRR WHATS SO BAD ABOUT BEING A ROIDchud
    Gee I dunno
    >the fact that you are more inclined to stay on
    >your hormonal profile (important) being fucked with
    >the insecurity that led you towards doing it
    >pretty much admitting you have old man testosterone levels by going on "trt" in the first place
    >the amount of money you have to spend over your life time
    >knowing that you took hormones like a chud to address your chud like life concerns
    >knowing that you DID cheat, you DID shortcut and you will never be a noble natural again

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cheat? Against who? In what competition?

      Ayy lmao get bent

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Damn I was natty but this faggy ass post just made me want to do steroids.
      Congrats you converted me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >steroid != trt
      Cool your fucking autism down, bud. You're so mad you can't even think straight.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Also, when the hyperinflation hits and the supply chains get fucked, all these trt gays will turn into less then chud tier betas bc their balls will be shut off lmao

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because now a you am forever dependant on a doctor or drug dealer in order to have normal hormonal levels, something my body is already producing fine. TRT is an amerifat LA meme for loser 45 yearold pederast boomers who post on body on instagram.

    (you)
    >please mr shekklesburg i need more medicine so i can look like the boys in the movies you produce
    >jamal please the last shit you gave me was expired and have gyno please tell me this is newer stuff i can't read the chinese label
    pathetic gay killyourself

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm scared

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    money and potential side-effects, duh
    and your depression or whatever mental shits might get even worse since you might not pussy-out on your next debbie-downer

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd go bald within a week if I cranked up my T to DHT pipeline any further.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >taking chud drugs

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    might consider after 40, my libido is currently fine but recovery is shit
    t. 36 boomerfag

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on what you mean by TRT? Actual clinical replacement of natural testosterone (within natty test levels) would likely not have too much of an impact on your ability unless you are critically low and exhibiting symptoms of low T.
    Or are you talking about just cruising on higher than natural range doses of exogenous test permanently? If so you're looking at a lot of side effects down the line, having to constantly manage your E2 levels, a long ass PCT with HCG if you're looking to get off it at any point and possibly long term chronic health issues after years of use (left ventricular hypertrophy, cardiovascular issues, MPB if your genes pre-dispose you to losing hair later in life).

    It's down to you but the whole "test levels are going down on average should I should be on exogenous hormones" talk is just getting tiring when all you want to do is just cruise. Up to you.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Been using tbol oral only cycles since forever. Stay chucked lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Post body w/timestamp.

      Show me your sales pitch

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This enough for you?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Now show me Paul Allen's bicep.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's perfectly possible to raise T by a couple hundred points without resorting to TRT, and that's what people should be doing before turning to drugs as a last resort, especially if their diet and exercise are garbage.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can't. Low testosterone often times is caused by testicles ceasing to work as well. Even after fixing my thyroid I only went up 55 points.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        diet, sleep, exercise, lowering bf% if you're a fatty, cutting out drugs/substances. all the things you're already meant to be doing. if you go into a trt/male clinic and the doc is willing to write you a prescription day 1 then you really should run from there. most guys that are looking into trt don't actually care about whether or not they suffer from "low T" which is why these immoral agents will just take an easy payday and the patient walks out thinking they've found a cure to their problems.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What stops me is I don’t know a clean source. Scam sites look professional and online reviews are the same as online statements about penis size.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because my levels are "average" at 400ng/dl @ 150lbs 5'11" 11% bf 22 years old so why tf is it low. I am physically active.
    The doctas think I'm in the normal range and they REFUSE to give it to me. So, guess I'll find other avenues

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Your levels are not average at 400ng/dL.
      They are average as per ICD10.
      They were clinically deficient as per ICD8.

      Guess why.

      We used to prescribe 15-year-olds testosterone and IGF-1 back in the 70s if they were more than 6cm shorter than the national average of their demographic cohort.

      Now we are refusing to prescribe testosterone to men that are legitimately suffering from adipose, loss of skeletal muscle mass, bone density, orbitofrontal cortex potentiation, 5-HT system long-term-depression, and a host of other issues including up regulated glucocorticoids that can inhibit gene expression and lead to very serious methylation.

      But we are perfectly within our rights, and even expected to prescribe 15-year-old girls with testosterone without even requesting full blood-tests and gonadotropin assays.
      Guess why it changed and who changed it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        <&

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks Obama

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >TEST-E 300
    That's some Hispanicy PIP.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So what would happen if I only took test without hcg? my balls get smaller?

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